Nikkor Z 85mm F1.8 VS F 85mm F1.4 VS F 85mm F1.8.
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- A video directly comparing the Z 85mm F1.8 against the F mount 85mm 1.8 and 1.4.
1. Looking at image quality,
2. Video AF
3. Focus Breathing
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This is how you do lens reviews/comparisons! Extremely well done. Thanks a bunch
It took a lot of effort and time so means a lot !! Thank you
Yeh its a pretty long video! But I hope it gives you a really good idea of the Performance of this lens. THANKS FOR WATCHING !
Does the adapter that you need to use with the F mounts have any affect on the imaging? I would think that the f mounts are a little further from the sensor and cause a little less sharpness. (forgive the novice question)
The adapter makes no difference to the picture quality at all. The adapter makes the lenses the same distance from the sensor as they are when used on an f-mount camera.
The only way to make F-Mount lenses look bad, is to compare them to Z-mount lenses. Ain't that a bih.. Robbing Peter to pay Paul.. or rather PayPal. LOL Great test man!
You nailed it with that comment!!! LOL
Thanks it is abit of a love hate thing!
You’re right. I also love the look of the 1.4 images, there is something special about them.
The fringing on the F mount consumed all of that DF body! Great comparison Ricci!
Thanks for watching !
Another great video Ricci, I traded in my 85mm 1.4f and received the 85mm s lens today and I love it!
Good to hear !
Thank you for this thorough review! Very useful. Looks like the Z lenses are just better than F lenses. Looks like the Z 85 1.8 is as good as the F 85 1.4 and WAY less expensive. Now if only the Z 70-200 was out!
Thanks for watching ! Z 70-200 is on the way
@@RicciTalks yes but so is the Early May Bank Holiday
Would you rather get the 85mm or 70-200mm for portrait photography?
you think the Z 85mm would outdo sigma's 85mm DG EX HSM 1.4 lens?
@@Cleverconveyence tell me also m very confused which one is better nikon z85mm 1.8 is best one ya sigma 85mm 1.4 beter
That 85mm z lens is astonishing! Great review, many thanks!
Another xclnt and helpful review Ricci. When looking at your comparison images the detail of the texture in the plastic edge of your colour checker is mind-blowing for the Z1.8, also deliciously free of any colour fringing, what a performance. Really looking forward to seeing a Z 70-200 f2.8! Looking back a year when everyone in the industry was slagging Nikon for not having a mirrorless offering now we are seeing Nikon's mastery coming to the fore, superb Z cameras and virtually perfect glass appearing, I reckon Nikon will soon be back at the very top, glad I stayed with them for the last 25 years! Cheers.
The video focusing behavior is exactly what I am looking for, thanks for doing this comparison!!!
It would be really helpful if you pinned the title of each comparison section to the corner of the frame. That way I don't forget which lens you are comparing. I love the videos! Really appreciate all you do! Also! When you test the 24mm, can you check to see how the focus by wire system effects astrophotography and night time lapses. Thanks so much!
Glad you finally got to do this video. I had already decided to send back my 85 f1.8 G and I ordered a 85mm f1.8 S. Send the lens back today and got an email from Nikon that the S lens is on the way. You video just confirmed what I had hoped..... thanks.
Liked the comparisons in detailed. This really helps for most of the people if they really are in dilemma of buying 85 1.8 G F vs Z 85 1.8 and also dream of buying 85 1.4. Personally after looking at your video the Z 85 1.8 is the best of both breeds 1.8 g F and 85 1.4 with best sharpness.
Great channel! It deserves many more views and subscribers
Great comparison. Thanks Ricci. Just a suggestion for the future videos, it would be good if you can put a text overlay on the picture of what camera + lens + lens setting. It's hard to remember all the model numbers and settings just by listening.
Thanks for your work. However I didn't find enough reasons to switch my 85/1.4 to the newer Z lens. Those difference in sharpness is totally insignificant in portrait's work.
Yes, you are right, if you have a 1.4 85G but if you have a 1.8G or shoot where corner to corner needs to be as good as the center the lighter, lower-cost S lens is a very compelling lens. I have the 85 1.4G, 1.4D, 1.8G and now the 1.8 S. I will keep the 85 1.8G but decided I use the DSLRs so seldom now that moving to Z mount S lenses makes a lot of sense given their price, size and weight. The only lens I want that I do not have is the 70-200 2.8 S whenever it comes out. It will be expensive but if it as good as the 24-70 S, selling off the rest of the F mount glass will cover the cost and maybe enough to consider the 58 0.95(ok, dreaming)Every S lens so far has made me a believer. Even the kit 24-70 f/4 is used on commercial shoots all the time and for me, it outperforms the 2.8G and E version both of.which are packed up ready to sell.I did a whole theater company headshot shoot last week and instead of 40lbs of lenses and bodies, I took a small sling bag with Z6, SB900, spare battery and the 85 1.8 S and 24-70 f/4 S. about 1/10th the weight and 1/6th the size
I know the cat's eye effect is a technical flaw, but in a portrait lens, I find it an effective way to contain the composition.
I wish I used my F-mount 85mm enough to justify upgrading to this one. Beautiful rendering out of that lens.
In my case I use my 85 1.8g more than my other lenses... I got mine with like-new condition for 225$ so it is hard to justify the upgrade... will get one if I find got deal
Man your videos are REALLY good. I've been a sub for a while now and you've helped me pick the right lenses back when i made my purchases. Fellow youtuber here. Cheers!
Best comparison video I have ever seen. Great job. Thank you!
I am not sure, if that comparison made a lot of sense in this form. First of all 85mm is usually used for portrait photography. Color fringing is there usually not a big problem because the high contrast is just missing. And btw, it can be easily fixed in post. Sharpness wise I can understand the judgement but one should not forget, that the z lens is round about twice the price of the f-mount lens. In other words (469 Eur vs 939 Eur), not to speak about the fact that it is easily possible to pick up the F-mount 85mm 1.8 for 250EUR used. And ... the in order to demonstrate the difference in sharpness really, it had to be viewed at a sub-optimal 200% Lightroom ad hoc scaling process.
Another point is that for the price of the Z mount 1.8 lens you get an F-mount 1.4. So that would be really the contenders. And there the 1.4 would be because of the better bokeh the clear winner.
Thank you for a very “focused approach” (no pun intended) to the review. It was very useful. I will be adding the Z 85mm to my bag.
Thanks for watching !
Best thorough comparison ever... Keep up the good work...
professional as always Ricci, thanks so much for Your work. That video is really helpful with decisions.
Thank you for watching !
Hi Ricci, thank´s for the great video. Yesterday I was allowed to pick up the z 85mm from my photo retailer and was able to take a few pictures with it. Wow what great sharpness, etc. The subject is almost unbeatable in the price-performance ratio. I think that will give you a lot of pleasure. It may be that the internal software copes better with the Z lenses than with the FTZ adapter and the F-lenses and we therefore see that the lenses 1.8 are much sharper than the lenses. Greetings from Berlin
Once again, great comparison video Ricci. If you get time to show the focus breathing comparison between Z 35,50,85 S f/1.8 lenses, that would be interesting to see. Thanks.
Excellent video, Ricci. I went to collect my 85/1.8S yesterday, traded in my 85/1.4G. The test confirms my gut feeling. As to the F lenses, it also shows an 85/1.4G to be a very fine portrait lens for studio use at F/8 (where I would put it when I do not need to blur a background). Bokeh balls becoming eggs off center? The "balls" reflect the optical elements - take a circular thing like a beer mat and hold it in front of you looking at 90 degrees and it is perfectly round. Rotate it off to say 45 degrees and the round thing looks oval. The same thing happens in the lens the more you go off center with objects causing bokeh balls in the middle.
Very good test. Thank you. The Z lens is ordered.
Thank you ! For watching 🤗
Might be the best promo for the Z 85mm...geez that thing is clean and sharp!
Can you compare the Z 85mm f/1.8s vs the sigma 85mm f1.4, thankx
The bokeh of 85mm 1.4 is more pleasing than any of 1.8s. Color fringing is an issue that can be easily corrected in post production. I'll go for 1.4.
This is absolutely bananas. Gone are the days where I thought faster lens = better lens. My Z glass can't arrive fast enough!!
Ricci the Proof Master. Thanks for your test and analysis, man. 🤘🏻
It's been known for some time that the F1.8 F mount lens is as good as the F1.4 F mount, It's been the workhorse for many a photo shoot at the local portrait shop along with the D750, My F1.8 has little color fringing at F1.8 and I think its sharper than your sample, what it does have is just fantastic contrast. Next week I will be testing it with my new Z 6II and FTZ II adapter. If it's not as good then I will have to move to the Z 85 1.8 S as your testing has shown that it is sharp and has no color fringing. Thanks for the comparison.
Thank you, great review. Looking forward to receiving my new 85mm S lens.
Muchas gracias! Para cuando una comparación del Nikon Z 85mm F1.8 Vs. Sigma Art 85mm F1.4
We see this across the board with mirrorless vs DSLR lenses. We owe a hats off to Lumix and Olympus for figuring that the decreased flange distance would make controlling aspherical and chromatic aberrations far easier.
I've got to say at least compared to the 85 1.8G lens I had, the 85 1.8 S lens is an excellent lens. Even wide open I can see it's much sharper than my G lens (which I ended up returning after about 3 weeks--I mean the lens was sharp but had to be stopped down quite a bit, to 5.6, which I guess many do, but still, I mainly bought that lens to shoot it near wide open). The 85 1.8 S I have no problems shooting that wide open. (Never owned, and probably never will, a 1.4 lens to be honest--for me, the extra cost can't be justified as this is just a hobby for me).
I appreciate what you do and how you do it. Proper job!
This was a fantastic review. Just saw the trade in bonus by Nikon and switching from my 1.4 F-mount to the 1.8 Z will only cost me $52 (after trade in), which I think is worth it for fully integrating to Z-mount lenses. Thanks for the review!
Thanks for sharing this. Very helpful. I'm in the situation you described, using an F105/1.4 and a couple of wider angle Z lenses, often renting a 70-200 and longer telephotos for sports, but trying to plan for the near future. As I look at the Nikon's roadmap for the Z lenses I keep vacillating on what to buy now vs what to wait for and your videos are the most-helpful input I've found. Suggestion: It might be useful to compare Z vs F using the same set of sharpening, contrast since Z comes with a baked in adjustments. Now back to 20-70/2.8 Z now or ..... this is painful :)
Great review!
Shame Nikon didn’t take as much care with the aesthetics as they have with performance of the S line lens selection.
I actually like the design
but it’s subjective I suppose.
thanks so much for your reviews! makes my inner geek soooooo happy!
i think that i prefer the f designs which sharpen up nicley by 5.6 but are nice and soft wide open. thats good to have sometimes.
but the eveness of the files with the s lens is amazing.
just one thing: when you say "lets look at the depth of field" don´t you actually mean "out of focus area"?
Hi Ricci!
Are you sure that this S lenses for Z cameras dosen't have any CA like you present them? 🤔
Because I know that nikon has work with adobe to embeded a lens profile in the raw file straight from the camera and you can't undo this in Lr. Is baked in the raw file. I think it would be fair if you did this comparaisons in a raw developer that is neutral.
I wold like to hear your opinion about this.
In the end I realy like your videos.
Keep up the good work! ✌
Lateral CA can be removed through software corrections, although I don't believe Nikon is using much (if any) for the f/1.8 primes and f/2.8 zooms, it is mostly the f/4 zooms that have lots of software corrections. Longitudinal CA (the fringing in the out of focus areas) is not removable through automatic corrections and has to be carefully masked manually, which is a huge pain, and so the advantage of the Z 85mm in this regard is huge.
For the Nikon Z6II would you recommend the 85mm f/1.8 F mount or the Viltrox 85mm f/1.8 Z mount? Thank you for your work!
Great video. The 1.4G bokeh is like velvet.
The disappointing thing about the 24mm S lens is the price - it's £250 more than the US price. I was ok with £850 but £1050 is getting very pricey. My Sigma 24mm F1.4 was £650 for instance.
Did you account for the taxes in us? Prices are pre tax there.
Ricci! Thank you for your videos! 👌
I still have my 85 1.8G and keep thinking of switching to the 85 1.8S. I fear it's just a case of Nikon Gear Acquisition Syndrome though.
I already have the the 24-70 & 70-200 2.8S, 28 & 40 SE, 24-200 S & 180-600 ℤ-mount lenses for my ℤ f.
Well as long as I find these new S lenses perfect for its dedicated Z system, I will keep many of my F mounted lenses and primes because they simply work so well on all my Nikon F100-F55-F65-D780-D4S and Z8 camera ! 😊
I've ordered a Z85s after watching this video. It's a fantastic lens.
I like your comparisons. Men can really tell afterwards what are the differences between the lenses! Thanks
Thanks for watching
Ricci, Great Video. The broadcast quality on my end is only 360p resolution. I don't know if it's network quality on my end or UA-cam's broadcast. It really makes it hard to see real detail in the video. Again, thanks for all the great videos and hard work (that you love to do) show the great stuff for the Z6 and Z7!!! -Bud
It’s with every UA-cam video if you upload it. It’s processing in the background. In a few minutes should pop up the other resolutions! Need to be patient
Bud Betz now you can watch it in full resolution :)
@@MVargabass Thank you! Appreciate the feedback!!!
Should be available in 4K soon
Now that I've had a chance to see it in HD, Great Video! As always, your presentation is straight forward and very informative. I did notice the Z 85 was much quieter than the F 85. Definite ticks and wurs in the focus motor in the F. Thanks for another awesome production!
How does sharpness compare between the 85 1.8 and the 50 1.8? Thanks.
Beautifully explained,I'm looking to get the nikon 85mm f1.8 F or Z, ideally the Z but prices for the F have gone to half the price of the Z glass making it so much more cost effective!
Segways suggestion, can we get a Techart ef to Z adapter with canon 85mm 1.8,1.4,1.2 comparison with Z lens?? Really appreciate your work man keep it up!
- shooting with z6,d800e, em1 mark ii
a comprehensive comparison. Thank you Ricci. Btw, what camera and lens you used for this video? The focusing is incredible!
Z6 + z 50mm F1.8 s
Hi there! Does anyone has a doubt about IS THE 85/1.4 IS REALLY IN FOCUS? Lower sharpness? ok, old optical scheme. Bigger aberrations? - ok, the same. BUT. In some cases with the same aperture, the F lens has the smaller DOF. That's really strange. I think you all understand what I mean (about accuracy of the focus with the F lens). Now is popular to tell S LENSES TOTALLY BETTER THAN F ONES. Maybe not so totally, who knows. Sorry if I'm mistaken, its just a thought, imho.
I have no understanding of not wanting a sharp lens when one can always soften the picture in post if wanted. You can't resharpen what isn't there.
I have the legacy 105mm and 60mm Micros that I use on my Z6 for detailed B-Roll... I believe that - only the manual lenses can be predictable used to pull focus ie IF you use something like Rhino ArcII/focus you cannot be sure that the exact same focus to distance will be captured with a Z lens... the Z lenses use “electronic” focus and rely of autofocus...
Which makes me think that you will want to use legacy lenses - manually focused - for applications like focus pulling on a slider....
Opinions:
Thank you
360p ?
Probably other resolutions are still building.
Yeh got be patient it’s uploaded in 4K
Great video Ricci. Just what I was waiting for. It's quite clear on the video that Z lens is better, but would you mind sharing these comparison RAW files so we could have a better look? Thanks!
i wasn't waiting for this ..it just popped up in my fb feed
Hello, great video, can you please do a Coma test in low light? I recently got the 85 1.4 F mount because I still have DSLRs. You can't go ZtoF obviously so I needed a lens that could be used on both. I'm curious on how this stacks up on low light vs the F mount, I may transition to all mirrorless someday.
How much is this due to the profile and how much to real optics?
Every lens has his pro's and con's. They all render different. The Z-mount excels in having no color fringing. The sharpness is not that much better to invest in de 'Z' series for now. See your head shot. Even with the coming of the D6 the F-mount still remains a very good lens. The 'Z' series render like a Sigma and have some flatness to them. It is Pixel peeping what we are doing and the new isn't always better in total. If you want and can effort it...and F-mount is dead mentioned by people is a not founded statement!
don't mind the set up but in practice, it doesn't seem to matter. I have been using the F 85mm 1.8 and it gives supreme results.
To be short: So far all Z Lenses are amazing! And the Price is moderate. My problem is now, buy a D850 and use the 85 1.4 70-200 fl and the 20 1.8 or change to mirrowless.
It is funny!!i am thinking almost the same...i have d 850 but i dont know if i should keep it because i dont like 35 50 and 85mm g lenses....i love the d850 but i wish nikon f mount lenses were better...
The reason viewers need your conclusion is because UA-cam compression doesn't allow us to see what you see. Please don't be afraid of people in the comments. PLEEEEEEASE give your judgements based on you being able to see what you can see and we can't. And you're probably more knowledgeable than us, otherwise you'd be watching our video, and not the other way around!
Really interesting video actually. So after 5.6 all the lenses are the same apart from the z being better in the corners. BUT below 5.6 the z is stand out sharper on maximum cropping. Obviously we'll want to use at the lower F stop for low light and bokeh... Both dslr lenses are pretty much the same quality.
Its possible that its just because I'm watching this on a TN panel screen, but even on the higher F stops it seems like theres a lot of color fringing on the Fmount lenses. Anybody else see that too or is it just my awful screen?
Excellent straight forward informative video, thanks for sharing
Based on this excellent review, I decided to go ahead with a puchase of the Z 85 F1.8 VS for my new Z-7II and just keep my F series lens as is and buy a FTZ.
Would the F work with the Nikon Z50, which has no stabilizer too? Is this a problem?
So, where are the examples of portraits from all three lenses?
This is technical comparison, but not also real life comparison, at least for me.
Nice video! Thanks for your review!
Do you now how big/weight is the new 70-200 f2,8 S for Z mount compared to DSLR version? Is it smaller/lighter?..
Hi Ricci, love these videos. Can I ask what focus modes etc you use when making these? Very impressive how quickly and accurately focus changes when you hold each lens in front of your face :) Looking to make some videos for clients using Z6. Thanks a million
85mm f1.8 g...z.. ? Please specify
F 1.4 and z1.8 both are same ? Talking about aperture
Please let me know. Can Z 50mm f/1.8 take portrait photos as good as Z 85mm f/1.8? I have a budget to buy only one of them, not both, for taking portrait photos and others.
Very good comparison, thank you!!
Really interesting ! Did you try to compare Z series lenses with Sigma art lenses ?
Hello thanks for the content it would be better if you had compared their price and all so we could know which way is more affordable
That at about 11:08 is awesome. But the intention to buy a 1.4 lens is to use it at 1.4. Advantage F 85 1.4: weight and size. Not in comparison to the Z 85 1.8 but: I also have the Z 50 1.8 and 1.2 and if the Z 85 1.2 will become such a weight monster as the Z 50 1.2, the pretty awesome Sigma 85 1.4 DG HSM Art will become a lightweight lens. Off all my primes, the Sigma kept the weight record until I got the Z 50 1.2 and honestly, I can’t understand, why the awesome Z 50 1.8 is such a convenient lightweight, the one stop faster 1.2 so monstrous lens. The Sigma is so far one of the best primes on the planet.
Thanks,
very helpful review , but i wish you compare the 18S vs 1.4g bokeh in real world , that will make the review 10/10 .
thanks for your efforts .
At least it focus breathes in the right direction - as in it gains focal length rather than loses it. Looks like a stellar lens tbh! The focus falloff is unreal. Thanks for testing.
Btw how do you remove Lo-CA easily? To me it's the most difficult kind to remove, since it often overlaps and blends with other colours.
You can make a radial mask adjustment layer to rebalance green and purple more towards the corners, but really it is just a characteristic that is accepted of that era of lens design.
can you add the new VOTROX 85 F/1.8 Z mount ??
Great video - outstanding lens!🖤
Hi Ricci and thank you for your great tutorials. Question: Can you shoot with the Z7 handheld and still get sharp pictures? (assuming a relatively fast speed appropriate for the lens focal length and with relatively good steady hands). Most professional photographers seem to consider high pixel count DSLR cameras (D81, D850) as being almost exclusively to be used on a tripod because they are highly susceptible to motion blur. Since the Z7 has IBIS, I wonder if that makes it less blur-sensitive, specially with S-lenses (5-way image stabilization). Thank you for considering my question.
Iv used the D850 and Z7 professionally
yes they are affected by motion blur but I would put that down to bad technique. If you know ur camera and know ur shutter speed they give amazing results. The Z7 ibis does indeed mean you can shoot a slower shutter speeds and still get sharp results. So the Z7 is more forgiving than the d850.
Thank you so much for your comments Ricci. I feel encouraged to consider a Z7 body as my next camera. Thank you!
I'm sold. I just placed the order for the Z 85mm f/1.8 for my Z7
Thanks for watching!
I would like to know, Z 85mm F1.8 and F mount 85mm 1.4 lenses on which camera did you test ?
All on the same camera
damn this new mount open up a lot better options
Great video mate, I wonder how the z mount 24-70 2.8 vs the other z lenses compare. What do you think? Edge to edge sharpness across the board? ;)
Gonna do a video of the 24-70 2.8 vs the primes so that’s on the way ! But I feel like it might be close
Excellent!
Thank you so much for a great info, Sir.
Lovely video
The f 85mm 1.8 is still the best bang for the buck. Half the price of the Z version and 1/3 of the F 1.4
Thanks for sharing, now let's see if Nikon can ship them as fast as you put this video up.
Any hint on the 70-200 f/2.8?
1. I must say that you are misusing the term "Depth of Field". If you don't like the now well known Japanese term 'bokeh ボケ , which is the quality of the out-of-focus regions of a photograph, you need to find another way of referring to it. ..
BECAUSE .. "Depth of field" is a measure of how far in front of and behind a particular point of focus of a lens throughout the aperture range. This is affected by focal length, distance from image plane and the aperture used.
2. I find the F-mount AF-S NIKKOR 85mm 1.8G to be the superior portrait lens over tge Z, because the Bokeh is smoother (nearest to Leica quality) and detail rendering in the corners is rarely of interest with portraits.
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The video comparisons were interesting. 👌 Thank you.
Well done. Thank you very much.
Hello Ricci! It looks like the Z mount lenses are really incredible. Could you make a comparison video like this also with the 50mm f1.8 Z and the available 50mm F mount lenses. Regards. Dietmar
In my previous videos Iv done Z 50mm F1.8 vs F 50mm F1.8 it’s in the Z 50mm review video.