Jouef Class 40: Donation Overhaul
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- I was very kindly donated this old Jouef Class 40 locomotive by a chap called Dafydd and was told it was a non runner. Dates from 1979.
Thanks very much to Dafydd for sending me this.
One of the smoothest sounding yet , nice sound over the joints and thick work . 👍🇬🇧
Another blast from the past for me - had one of these when they came out as well. I found mine 'warmed up' - not as in getting hot, but as in increasing performance at the same setting over perhaps 5 minutes' running. Don't think I ever pulled mine apart, but do remember her having issues with the 'pony' wheels on each bogie not liking points! Interesting, and thanks once again.
Al.
Good one . When this appeared in 1977 it was a revelation because up till then we really only had Hornby Hymek, 31 , 37 and 47 . So this was a godsend to all those enthusiasts that had been starved of one of the major classes . I think it was well received . Curiously it came with mk3 coaches which it would never have hauled . The Mk3s were also well received as they came out at the same time as Hornby HST . The Joueff Mk3s were full length and were used instead of the Hornby short ones . A nice model , looks the part .
After a little bit of tender care it runs like a dream thankyou for the video
There's no tender?
Great videos, how nice to change those bulbs for LEDs 😃
I got one of these, sometime in the 1990s, as second hand thing, it was in the BR Blue livery. I tested it at a friends, and it kept de-railing. So we took the body off to see what was what. And omg what a dog's dinner someone had made of it. It had bee re wired, with wires that were far too thick, making the driven bogie derail on curved track. Also the motor had been boddged into the bogie, by some bits of wood, and what looked like Mains (gauge) copper wire. It went back the next working day and I got my money back.
When it came out it got very good reviews despite being a little bit too wide basically because there were very few models of diesels. The extra width is due to the position of the motor and the room it needs to swing. They have a tendency to split the worm gear on the motor, you can tell by lots of noise and absolutely no movement. I had one when I was a kid which I repainted into blue, I still have it and I’m very fond of it, thanks for shining a light on a little classic.
I remember the ads for these when they were first released. They produced mk3 coaches at the same time which seemed an odd choice of rolling stock to go with a class 40. That motor bogie arrangement is much better than their earlier SNCF locos with a vertical drive shaft doubling as the bogie pivot - very wobbly runners!
I always wanted one of these in blue when they came out but they were quite expensive so it never happened. I can't complain though as my wonderful Nan funded a huge amount of purchases for me when I was a teenager and allowed me the space for an 8' x 4' layout in a spare bedroom.
As for the real thing, I still recall being excited when a double headed 40 excursion came to Swindon back in October 1977 (40 081 and 084 from memory) as they were so rare locally.
The 'green' ones are blue plastic underneath, they've just been painted green.
The Jouef Class 40's considering their age are a cracking model. Sure the dimensions might be off but they look the part. Interesting the way the five pole motor is mounted and for their age run surprisingly quietly. Another great video😀
I've got 2 of these - blue and a green. Absolute beasts! They look great on the layout and the slow speed crawl they can achieve is impressive. Yes you will need a re railer or need lots of patience 😃 I had exactly the same issue with the weight shorting out the wires - why they didnt use insulated wire I don't know as the sleeves are too small. Another informative video 👍
Hi 👋🏻 Bill. A pretty good looking loco for its age 👍🏻
I have a pair of these locos, Mauretania & another un-named one. There wasn't just one model of the Jouef class 40, there were several, all with different running numbers, names & liveries.
I also have a Lima class 40,, which when placed next to the Jouef class 40, has noticeably inferior detail.
Back in the day, they were known for splitting the plastic drive gear from deterioration caused by factory over oiling . Also the polystyrene box inserts used to weld themselves to the paint work particularly on the nose piece
I have the blue version of this still from my childhood, a good locomotive and as Simon mentioned in another comment the gear split luckily a family friend repaired it when I was young
Very nice! You must have a good collection now. Enjoy your videos with coffee in the mornings here in Australia.
Always wondered about these ? I was always going to try and get one but never managed to! I would think spares would be a nightmare now, though?
Nice loco Bill. Looked good pulling that rake of coaches.
Another great video. We've aquired 3 of these marvelous loco's over the years and shared the footage on the channel - got a real soft spot for them despite obvious scaling flaws (they're massive!). Simular experiences to yours: shorting issues, bulbs blown but very quiet running and amazing performance from such and unusual power bogie set up and small motor.
Hi Bill, I did consider buying this engine, But bought the Lima one instead as it just looked better with a less industrial looking gears. But it is nice to see it running so well and getting a second chance. On a different note. The Hornby Duchess I mailed you about . I have managed to fix all its problems, and it is now running fine.
Hi Bill thats another great insight into a classic brand - looks decent for its day. Great to hear the potential options for the next video. I was going to request a video to recap whats in your collection now and maybe give us a top 5 of your favs with a classic Bill spin - cheers Shaun
I'd highly recommend the rerailer. My Lima Class 40 only has two of those pivoting axles rather than four, but it's still annoying to get on the track. Rerailer generally makes it a breeze provided there's no overhead in the way.
Anuvva Awesome video there Bill ,, when you get a joueff loco that runs good well there great but like anything if there crap well ya just gotta fixit hey ,, easy fix and a good score too i might add ,, never say no to free engines or rolling stock or anything trains in your scale.
I call it good karma as you have taught me heaps in the last year or so since I started back on the trains again after a real long break from them (40 years ,, getting a job on the railways will do that to you haha)...
Hey I bought a job lot and there was juoeff sncf french loco disel co-co and out of the 6 wheels only 4 of them turned and the middle wheel (centre axles on both sets were fixed to the chassis ,, bloody wierd if ya ask me haha.
Cheers from John in Australia
The fake centre wheel seems to have been quite common in those days. Bill's repaired a couple of six-axle locomotives where the centre wheels of each bogie were just hinted at by mouldings on the bogie frames.
Nice video Bill and a great looking loco! I was amazed at you just tearing the tape for such a neat worker,i thought you would have cut it with a pair of scissors ;) I have a Lima class 37 that makes that lovely noise when it runs
Did you notice the odd bit of plastic was the broken clip from the weight by the motor?? Great video Bill,,
Yes. I point this out in the video.
@@oobill Sorry I must have missed that...
I was fourtunate to find exactly the same Jouef 40 around 20 years ago and still have it today, lovely runner and for mee is a better representation of the 40 than the two Lima class 40s i also have. Mine runs really nicely too.
Looking good with the rake of crimson and carmine/cream coaches!
The clear plastic lense blocks were fixed to the chassis on mine and the projecting parts snapped-off when I removed the body.😡(The headlights are ficticious anyway so no great loss). The motor retaining clip had also been replaced by a bent wire-staple!😱
Clip is a broken chassis part to hold in one of the weights. They went a very strange way around to allow it to negotiate tight radii! All very French and I say that as a Citroën devotee.
Another good video, thanks Bill.
Nice video. Do you see this being easy or hard to convert to DCC? Replace the bulbs with LEDs perhaps?
Nice video, I have 2 of these, one in BR blue & yellow ends & the model that's in the video, I haven't run them in a while!
Very impressive.
What a good runner.
Lucky you bill I really like that loco 👍
Great video, these models tend to be not very powerful haulers after a while as the magnets seem to lose their power fairly fast. I reckon the one you have did very little running. The main issue with the model is the body is strangely too wide. One can also buy an adapter kit which comes with a model 5 pole motor and 3D printed mount for it which improves the traction and slower running no end.
Don't suppose you can link it in or give a name? Might be something I have to invest in. Mine does the 5 coach norm for my layout but if the power depletes quickly then I want to future proof it. I've fallen a but in love with the model since getting mine
I have a Lima sncf bb9288 locomotive all it needed was a new brush and spring but now it doesn’t work except when I put battery to the brush holder but not on the wheels or on track I’ve checked all connections and they seem okay I’m just stumped as what to do next any suggestions please
Great vid buddy 👍💯👍
That’s a really lovely engine I like it myself maybe ran a steamer with it not 101 it could have been the 1960 s 🙂
Love a class 40
How much for a mainline mogul
I have never heard of Jouef.
French
Part of Hornby International.
They were marketed as 'Playcraft' by Woolworths in the 1960s.