Utah Football: Is Cam Rising better than Shedeur Sanders and Noah Fifita in the Big 12?

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  • Опубліковано 17 жов 2024

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  • @beau_body4152
    @beau_body4152 3 місяці тому +6

    I’m still just shocked we didn’t grab any Oline Guys out of the portal.. just crazy to me!

    • @jonathanwistrcill1336
      @jonathanwistrcill1336 3 місяці тому +2

      I was hoping we would add one too but Whitt seemed to have alot of confidence in the group at media day so we'll see how it translates this fall.

  • @Utahutes6969
    @Utahutes6969 3 місяці тому +6

    The offensive line was definitely worse than in previous years, but part of it was due to Bryson Barnes being a liability, teams knowing Utah was going to run the ball and when he threw he held onto the ball way too damn long. If Cam is the player he used to be, that will help improve it on just QB alone.

    • @jonathanwistrcill1336
      @jonathanwistrcill1336 3 місяці тому +1

      Agreed and he did not do a good enough job getting the ball out.

    • @cstir04
      @cstir04 3 місяці тому +2

      I’m torn about what we’re going to see in the fall from the offensive line. Cam, Whitt and others say it is one of our best groups. But going off what we know as fans and last year, there are too many question marks to have that same confidence.

    • @Utahutes6969
      @Utahutes6969 3 місяці тому +3

      @@cstir04 ya I agree. I feel like they say that every year and we never really know until the season is over.

  • @russmontgomery9110
    @russmontgomery9110 3 місяці тому +2

    Rising may not be the flashiest QB, but i think he's the most stable when it comes to smarts. I'm worried he wont be the tuck the ball runner he was when he had to. We'll see.

  • @PessimisticUte
    @PessimisticUte 3 місяці тому +3

    I think this guy made a lot of fair points but the one critique I have is that Arizona has wholes on their roster on defense from transfers that I thought weren’t filled enough. 2021 Utah had multiple holes and we went to the rose bowl. Guy made good points overall tho

    • @jonathanwistrcill1336
      @jonathanwistrcill1336 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah the Wildcats need to have alot come together but they have alot of good already going for them.

    • @KipBennett-qf8yo
      @KipBennett-qf8yo 3 місяці тому

      Huh
      Some folks know nothing about Arizona and what they gained on the defensive line and the transfer portal
      Darton from Syracuse is a guy fits what Arizona's going do on the defensive line in 2024
      Jedd Fisch had one great season due to Duane Akina and Noah Fifita
      Please stop 🛑 acting like Jedd Fisch is Nick Saban
      Arizona was known for defense back in the day with the Desert Swarm etc
      They have produced two Thorpe Award winners in Tucson and Duane Akina is the best developers of the defensive backs in the FBS currently
      No one on Utah current staff can compete with a guy Hawaii guy who produced recruited and coached up
      3 different Thorpe Award winners
      And last time we fact checked
      Cam Rising has never faced Arizona with a great defensive unit period
      And historically when Arizona has a good or great coach in Tucson they beat the Utes more often than not
      That is a fact not opinion
      Rich Rod should have been 5 and 1 against the Utes it was not for the horrible call in the last two minutes of the 2017 game 🎯
      And in all time meetings against each other
      Arizona is like 20 -26-2 against Utah
      And Arizona's most hated rival Tempe Normal aka Arizona State
      Owns the Utes in head to head match ups
      Back to the comparison in 2024
      Dorian Singer the the former walk on from Minnesota who benefited from playing with the likes of T Mac and Jacob Cowing when he had that break out season in 2022
      And did not do anything at USC in 2023
      Singer is not a star studded wide receiver that folks in Salt Lake City think he is
      Please name me scary wide receivers that Utah has that will make Dorian Singer have a great season in 2024
      USC had one of the best wide receiver cores in the FBS in 2023 and Singer didn't get on the field as much
      That should be a concern for real Utah fans
      Dorian Singer is an average wide receiver at best
      And Utah doesn't have any scary running backs like what Arizona has in Jacory Croskey-Merritt and Quali Conley and Speedy Luke
      And the Utes offensive line in 2024 is not better than Jonah Savaiinaea or Josh Baker or Raymond Pulido or Leif at Arizona
      Jonah Savaiinaea is a projected first round draft pick in the 2025 NFL draft
      It's laughable that Utes
      Think that they are better than Arizona
      Despite Jedd Fisch leaving for Washington
      Brent Brennan knows how to develop and coach up
      Ask Brandin Cooks who he recruited at Oregon State and developed into a Biletnikoff Award winner 🏆 that currently has 6 different 1k seasons with over 1k yards
      Arizona is loaded on both sides of the ball 🏈
      And Jacob Manu is better than both linebackers that the Utes currently have
      So ask yourself how is Utah going to control the 2024 game at home against Zona
      When Arizona was a top 8 passing team two years in a row and that ain't changing in 2024 and they know have a head coach that doesn't mind running the ball 🏈
      Considering the transfer Quali Conley had over 800 yards and just over 6 yards a carry as the back up running back at San Jose State in 2023
      Arizona has the best secondary in the Big 12 and that ain't even close
      Cam Rising is not better than Noah Fifita
      Remember Fifita is not a quarterback that runs the ball as much as injury prone Rising is
      And this defense in 2024 that Arizona has can take the ball away and they are going to force Utah to pass the ball to a real wide receiver not a tight end
      And no one in their right mind thinks the Utes running back is going to scare Arizona when they play each other
      Arizona can and will pick their poison on offense against the Utes at will
      Nobody on the Utes secondary is stopping T Mac and the surprising thing is that Arizona has receivers on their current team that can have over 1k yards in 2024 and the third receiver having close to 800 yards in 2024

  • @Goeers206
    @Goeers206 3 місяці тому

    Hope Rising and Daniels can stay healthy all year, the best outlook for the Big 12 is for all the teams in the league to be able to play at their peak in the eyes of cfb fans and media.
    That being said, no one is going to be better than Garrett Greene this year!
    Let's go Mountaineers!

  • @JimWhite-c7q
    @JimWhite-c7q 3 місяці тому +3

    Putting Utah O Line and RBs in top 5 is nuts. Makes no sense. I can see why the QB position is number 2 when you add in the back up.

    • @jonathanwistrcill1336
      @jonathanwistrcill1336 3 місяці тому +1

      Good point on the back ups! Even though they are unproven lots of guys with the potential to be elite backups in that room

  • @davidbradham3515
    @davidbradham3515 3 місяці тому +3

    Colorado got a whole team of good guys in the portal last year. How did that work out for them?

    • @mathenoHowellBey
      @mathenoHowellBey 3 місяці тому +2

      They didn’t.. they just got bodies to fill the roster. This year they have difference makers

  • @beau_body4152
    @beau_body4152 3 місяці тому +4

    Utah is going to be overlooked and hated in no matter what. PERIOD. Winning games and especially beating OKST will prove they’re THEM.
    And to be honest put all the Shit talkers in their place.

    • @robertpearce4316
      @robertpearce4316 3 місяці тому

      Lol you know your talking about utah fans

    • @THEeyepatch11
      @THEeyepatch11 3 місяці тому +3

      @@robertpearce4316 *You're
      Hilarious.

    • @robertpearce4316
      @robertpearce4316 3 місяці тому

      @@THEeyepatch11 the star of the hillbillies from deliverance pipes in. Pathetic

    • @Goeers206
      @Goeers206 3 місяці тому +1

      If the roles were reversed and the Big 12 collapsed and OK State or K State came to the Pac 12 and everyone said "OSU is going to be the front runner this season in the new Pac 12" Utes fans would lose their minds and go into hysterics.
      No one hates Utah, we are glad Utah is in the league, we just think the more vocal portion of the fanbase are obnoxious and we hope you all get a slice of humble pie. You all haven't even played a single snap in the league, earn the bragging rights on the field.
      Also, it doesn't help when your head coach keeps insinuating you all are above us and just waiting for a spot in the make-believe land known as the "super league."

    • @THEeyepatch11
      @THEeyepatch11 3 місяці тому

      @@Goeers206 Why would Ute fans "lose their minds and go into hysterics" and do you even know any Ute fans?

  • @THEeyepatch11
    @THEeyepatch11 3 місяці тому +5

    These are the kind of informative shows I like, saves me the time of doing the research.
    Kickoff time is almost here, all the prognostications and opinions will no longer matter and all these Big XII teams will have to prove if they are a contender or pretender.
    GO UTES!

    • @robertpearce4316
      @robertpearce4316 3 місяці тому

      Research hilarious

    • @THEeyepatch11
      @THEeyepatch11 3 місяці тому +2

      @@robertpearce4316 Blue and White, did you come to tell us that you're going over to Locked On Oklahoma State to make a comment? Hilarious.

    • @robertpearce4316
      @robertpearce4316 3 місяці тому

      ​@THEeyepatch11 lol have you been on locked on osu. It's like 3 shows ago my name was mentioned. I love the idea you think I'm a byu fan. It just shows that utah fans are crazy. If I was a liberal I would feel sorry for you like biden.

    • @THEeyepatch11
      @THEeyepatch11 3 місяці тому +2

      @@robertpearce4316 Hey Blue and White... That 'Uoob' term for Ute fans just isn't catching on but I know I've already told you that on Deseret News. Hilarious.

    • @robertpearce4316
      @robertpearce4316 3 місяці тому

      @@THEeyepatch11 lol have no idea what your talk about I dnt get that small town rag. Since I live out side your throw arm. If you come like 750 miles east on you paper route I mite get one.
      Pathetic

  • @davidmccurdy4350
    @davidmccurdy4350 3 місяці тому +3

    One of the big reasons Utah is favored is because of two time Pac-12 champion Cam Rising. If Shedeur Sanders was Utahs QB i would NOT have them as the favorite.
    S. Sanders may be a more talented QB skill wise, but MANY NFL QBs were more skilled than Tom Brady. But Brady had so many more intangibles that can't be read from stats. Cams leadership alone is night and day difference between Sanders. It just is. How many games did Sanders win last year? What a crazy take.
    Cam may not be the most talented, but with considering everthing, Cam has a good chance to be a three time champion, whereas Sanders will not be even though he has arguably the best WR in CB. I'll take Cam every day over Sanders. See if you can find one single teammate of Cams that says anything other than he is a warrior.?Whereas Sanders, the list is too long of past teamates who have trashed him. Just blown away at the love and respect S. Sanders is getting when he hasn't done anything significant yet. Unbelievable bad take.

    • @jonathanwistrcill1336
      @jonathanwistrcill1336 3 місяці тому +1

      Sanders had the worst offensive line in P5. Not every team that wins has a QB as a leader. It definitely helps to have one but Stepson Bennet was not the leader JJ Mcarthy was and Georgia went back to back. Wins is far from the best QB stat. If we went by wins when scouting Patrick Mahomes then he would not have been a first round pick. If you swapped Sanders and Cam Utah would still be the favorite.

    • @davidmccurdy4350
      @davidmccurdy4350 3 місяці тому +2

      @@jonathanwistrcill1336, the main points I brought up were championships and leadership (both are valueable), and you will find neither thus far in Sanders. Mahomes teammates, both former and current gloat over his leadership (as with Cam), it's the complete opposite with Sanders. Shoot, both Alex Smith and Andy Reid said his leadership was the first thing that made an impression on them, not arm talent and skills. He will get his stats this year, but he won't win anything and you'll still come up every excuse why.

    • @davidmccurdy4350
      @davidmccurdy4350 3 місяці тому +2

      And USC Caleb Williams would argue with you over the worst O-lines in CFB last year.

    • @jonathanwistrcill1336
      @jonathanwistrcill1336 3 місяці тому +2

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@davidmccurdy4350yep both OL’s where atrocious. Of course leadership is valuable and so are getting a team to the championship. It’s why I think Cam is still one of the best in college football. I’m not going to make excuses for Shedurr. I’m not a fan of him or Colorado I just think he’s really good. He can make some throws and plays Cam just can’t. But if you have either one leading your team your in a good spot

    • @davidmccurdy4350
      @davidmccurdy4350 3 місяці тому +2

      @jonathanwistrcill1336 , that is completely fair, and you make some valid points. Hope you have a good weekend.

  • @anthonyorman596
    @anthonyorman596 3 місяці тому

    The fact you didn't mention the Kansas QB when talking about big 12 QBs shows how new u are to this conference my team isn't even in anymore but Daniel's if healthy is the best QB in this league easy

    • @jonathanwistrcill1336
      @jonathanwistrcill1336 3 місяці тому +1

      2:21 I bring up Avery Johnson as the first guy I have ranked behind Cam and say why

  • @jaredharward9334
    @jaredharward9334 2 місяці тому

    Dudes hat is sucking out brain matter. 😂

  • @Number4lead
    @Number4lead 3 місяці тому +1

    The Sanders clowns are so overrated. From the big mouth old man on down. But they are legends in their own minds. 😂😂

  • @michaelpeck1346
    @michaelpeck1346 3 місяці тому

    B12 best rb conference in the country? Did the SEC stop existing?

    • @Goeers206
      @Goeers206 3 місяці тому +1

      Have you met all the mediocre teams in the SEC? Just because Alabama and Georgia are always power houses doesn't mean the rest of the league is good. Most teams in the SEC are no better than teams in the Big 12.