Why the Pacquiao hate Paulie?
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Thanks for the shout out! I'm sure if I asked something related to Conor, the answer would have been 3x longer lol!
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Conor has been bulking up lately.
@@PaulieTVBrooklyn you wrong paulie about pacquiao , and i can easily break it down for you for it to make sense for you
@Anthony Mcken that aint the truth paulie in his feelings
@Anthony Mcken what he says dont make sense , u need to realzie he speaking from a emotional place
Paulie: everybody is on steroids except me...everyone that beat me was on steroids....yea sounds like Paulie
Artem was clean!! 🤣🤣
I don't know maybe I don't know Paulie has extremely high boxing iq he's probably the only podcaster that speaks boxing that I take seriously
no wonder why he keeps accusing pacquing of using PEDs because pacquiao beat three boxers who beat him easily. Cotto Hatton Broner..
Let's be real. It's simple where this resentment comes from: Jealousy.
So with all of them good points that he made all you got from that is he is jealous? 🤦🏽♂️
@@troybracy2915 So with all the good points he made, did he ever present any solid evidence to back up the accusations? Nope. There's no proof, never has been, never will be, so why would anyone discredit another man's success in that way? This some b**** made loser mentality. Paulies always been a B level fighter. And because someone is extraordinary, he makes accusations to compensate for his own shortcomings. It's really that simple.
@@troybracy2915 Is he right about Pacquiao peds claim?
@@johnpaolobas1036 I agree with his logic it makes perfect sense and it’s backed by facts
@@troybracy2915 Facts with no evidence is so impossible
Bro is literally just mad because he had no power, so apparently everyone in boxing with power is juicing cmon now.
I mean….they are. You don’t get to be an elite athlete without taking substances to improve your performance.
Poor paulie doesnt understand that sum fighters just have a genetic advantage..
Yes this is true but enhancing athletic ability is also a face of sport
Oh? Please name one other fighter in the long history of the sport who entered at 118 pounds and then proceeded to mow down lightweights, welterweights and junior middleweights...let alone do it to monsters in those divisions with relative ease. Or name one other genetically gifted superstar who was an unknown as an amateur and unknown for the first quarter of his career? In any sport? Give me a break.
@@jlongobardy1612 What's your point bruhh?
@@johnpaolobas1036 If the topic of dispute is Pacquiao, then chances are my point is that he, of course, was on PEDs. This is not news nor even any longer arguable but long ago settled and now encyclopedic fact. To which I was likely alluding with my comment.
@@jlongobardy1612lol American fighters are just weaker 😂
Manny stated Paulie was soft. that's probably the real reason why the hate. lol
I think that's probably it
I heard paulie was about to fight pac...and it was cancelled. And he was offended by it. Just sayin.. paulie is not just genetically gifted. I love paulie but his envy of pac is on another level.
Paulie got knocked the fuck out by a low level mma fighter lmao lord Artem lobov 😆
He should be thankful that fight never happened
Let's be honest Paulie.
Your hate started when Pacquiao was aboht to give you a chance to fight him and he picked someone else.
So please. Be honest.
That was Clottey btw in 2010
no, Manny is a drug cheat, simple
If you’re calling out PEDs in the sport, you have to be consistent. Roy, Toney, Tarver and Fury all actually popped, but we don’t hear you talk about them. I get it - you grew up looking up to some of those guys and you might even be friends with some of them. But if you’re calling out dirty fighters, let’s just stick to the ones who popped on record. Otherwise it’s just gossip and slander.
You got to call out Mayweather who was exposed and inadvertently admitted to using a WADA banned PED masking IV for a fight that he refused VADA and refused an additional $5MM penalty if either of them got caught using anything on WADAS banned substance and methods list. That is the most glaring example on how Paulie is selective on these issues.
@@santosonly7 they won't ever mention Roy Jones or Floyd cheating and there was evidence but they will constantly bring up Pacquiao even though there's no proof lmao
@@santosonly7 Not to mention when the Mayweathers accused pacquiao of taking PEDS....pacquiao said OK floyd let's show the court's are Medical records Floyd was like how much will you accept for me NOT to show the court's...In the end FLOYD PAYED pacquiao 25/30million not too..🤦♂️...PLUS Pauly is Salty cuz pacquiao didn't want to fight him..he's not worthy...
he did say others are doing it too. its no secret really lol people close to the sport know
The guy asked about Pacquiao specifically and you guys start crying and bringing up other fighters. This shit is hilarious.
Jealousy and envious never seem's to get old in boxing sadly 😂 💢😭
whaaaaat
@@FavioHDTVno wonder why he keeps accusing pacquing of using PEDs because pacquiao beat three boxers who beat him easily. Cotto Hatton Broner..
There’s a lot of holes, inaccuracies & missing context in Paulies arguments. He says Manny was just waking thru Cotto, & other guys punches, which is not at all true. Manny Cotto was a war & Manny got his bell rung several times in that fight. Pac was a swollen mess after the Margarito fight & said that he was in bed for 2weeks crying in pain afterwards. Watch the post fight presser & just look at Pacs face & body language.
He also says that “everyone” is juicing. - which is a convenient assertion to help his argument. Why isn’t everyone popping dirty then? Is there some huge conspiracy that allows everyone in boxing to use PEDs and Paulie just never could get in on it?
Lastly, he claims Pac was too small & it’s unnatural for him to move up & perform the way he did against bigger guys. Fine. But if that’s true, explain how he was able to take the bigger guys punches. There is no PED to make your chin stronger or your body more resilient to punches. The reason Pac was able to come up from flyweight to WW is because he grew into each weight class. He was young & literally poor & starving when he was fighting at the lower weights. Once he began to make money and live a natural life he steadily moved up. He also was fighting at his walk around weight in almost every weight class. He NEVER weighed in at 147 the entire time he fought there - because he was too small. Pac is a 5’5 145lb man who probably walked around at 150 in between fights.
All prohibited substances in this class are Specified Substances.
All glucocorticoids are prohibited when administered by any injectable, oral [including oromucosal (e.g. buccal, gingival, sublingual)] or rectal route.
INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO:
Beclometasone
Betamethasone
I'm going to copy and paste the important section of that article......
Pacquiao complained of a right shoulder injury suffered in training April 4, resulting in a rotator-cuff tear.
He had been taking injections of lidocaine, bupivacaine and betamethasone, all approved by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, but an injection of the pain-relief and anti-inflammatory medications was not allowed on fight night by the Nevada Athletic Commission, which had no advance notice of the injury.
Not everyone is as naive as you. In the words of the Diaz brothers they’re all on steroids
Stop being naive. Most high level athletes juice. Look at the documentary icarus
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Than you Paulie for your candor and information, while refusing to throw others under the bus. Given that in a sport as dangerous as boxing, match promoters and organizers, remain reticent to do anything about juicing. Thereby making those lie yourself, the sacrificial lambs.
I can’t get with Paulie on this. Pac has NEVER tested dirty EVER. He never refused a test. He’s always been enrolled with VADA. In 2011 he refused USADA testing, which is what Floyd was using at the time & was using as a flex in negotiating the fight. Why was VADA testing sufficient for everyone else but for Floyd, Manny had to use USADA? In hindsight, Should Manny have just said “fuck it, I’ll do your testing” - I would say yes. But you gotta think about Mannys mentality at the time. He & Floyd were 1 & 1a in the entire sport (at that time) it wasn’t JUST the testing that killed the fight, it was the 50/50 split that Manny wanted & deserved(at that time) & Floyd’s demand that he “leave Bob or there’s no fight”. People love to leave those parts out to fuel their narrative that Pac was refusing to be tested, when in fact he was using the same testing that everyone else was required to, as well as other opponents Floyd had fought in the past
@@eduardochavez658 derrrrrrrrp
Manny never deserved 50/50. He wasn't doing the numbers Floyd was doing. Just look at their numbers against common opponents, Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, Marquez, Floyd's ppv numbers are all higher.
@@anthonyanderson9303 that’s crazy. That’s the biggest fight of the era. And it’s bc there was two a sides in the same fight. Of course Manny deserved 50. That fight doesn’t get anywhere near the same hype if it was Floyd and Cotto or some other shit
@@mitchharris4905 that doesn't matter. Floyd was the bigger name, sold more ppvs, bigger live gated, etc... he was never going to do 50/50.
Exactly shit Floyd controlled usada which never caught anyone Cheating unlike Vada who did also Floyd worked with Memo Heredia a known ped guy that also first worked with Juan Manuel Marguez had him looking like the hulk
4:40 he finally gets to the point
😂😂
“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”
Paulie is just a hater and always been jealous. This whole Pacquiao is on gear was because Floyd started screaming it to slander and Paulie followed suit. Pac never KO'd many. He would win over an accumulation of hits. Such a stupid statement that Paulie makes. Cotto could not get the timing down due to the speed. Why don't you talk about the steroids Xylocaine Floyd took which was banned in most states except Vegas? "I saw it" doesn't cut it. Even then I would want to know what cycle and regimen Pac was on. Anavar? Test Cyp with a splash of Tren for hardness? Maybe they all saw his PCT as well. Steroids don't work the way you think Paulie. You have no clue or your sources what yall are even talking about. Get over not getting the payday Paulie.
Pacquiao also beat AB as a 1st warm up fight after signing with PBC. Pac was like 38. While Paulie got his belt and just girl taken by Broner in his prime!! Cry about that too!! 🤣
Even worse. Pacquiao was 40 when he whooped Broner and he beat him with the flu lol
get in the ring with Paulie , only 3 rounds keybored warrior :/
@@treidchimney no! He should get in the ring with the Legendary Pacquiao because he was always talkin’ that shit about him! 🤣
Pacquiao defence was underrated, his footwork and angles was his defence and only the great timing like the Marquez managed to do after 4 fights nailed Pacquiao so sometimes it’s catching him flush to really hurt him and a lot of fighters couldn’t.
His footwork was amazing. Even as an older fighter he was great. His slipping was today tier too.
overrated fighter clearly juicing
@@jtonneck show me where pac failed a drug test. Until then st fu
@@jtonneck yet Floyd was the one taking 15 times the legal amount of IV which masks peds that's why it's ILLEGAL to take over 50 ml and he took 750 and didn't report it for 3 weeks and the commission spoke out against usada and that's why vada is mainly used now. Pacquiao was never caught with anything but sure Pac was the one juicing lmao
he got hit a lot in some fights but many opponents said it was difficult to get to him and his body is a small target he can cover easily.
I love Paulie but you still just seem like a hater towards Pac. Your argument is so inconsistent. You THINK Pacman was on something, yet he has never failed a test and you always talk shit about him. Yet, you do not appear to have the same amount of criticism to people who have actually been caught. I never hear you say anything about Mayweather, why is that?
Pacman wasnt knocking everyone out when he moved up anyway. It was pretty much only Hatton. Timing and speed man. Paulie just comes across as very jealous tbh.
Yet Pac-Man REFUSED to take the OSDT vs Floyd and even Freddie Roach stated in 2011 interview that and I quote “it was mannys fault the fight vs Floyd didn’t happen”. The amount of excuses Pacquiao was saying for not to take the blood tests was hilarious at best AND Pac tried to make Marquez in their 4th fight to take the Blood test for OSDT and Marquez responded and I quote “I will take the test but YOU have to take the same test as well” & guess what was Pacquiao response? And I’ll quote “no”.
So yea Pacquiao is to blame for anyone questioning him using PEDs.
@@tumadrechupapinga6252 First of all this has nothing to do with Pauline’s reasons. Second, Mayweather cannot dictate what drug tests are gonna be used, he wasn’t above the official protocol. Manny always did what was the official line of drug testing procedures were. However as it appeared he wouldn’t get the fight with Floyd he said ok but wanted a cut off point, they refused, he asked for a diff cut off point and they still refused. He also was happy to have another test directly after the fight. They refused. Besides, what is funny is Floyd never even did proper OSDT anyway coz he was only tested during the time when he had a fight announced, NOT all year round. Also, you must know full well the details of Floyds dodgy drugs for his hands and his IV before the Manny fight! But no lets keep hush.
Manny has never failed a test, does this mean he never took anything? No. But that doesn’t stop Paulie constantly hating on him, yet Paulie doesn’t do the same tp Fury, Canelo and the numerous others who have. Why is that?
@@supes12 so what does mayweather dictating Pac to take the SAME TEST AS HIMSELF has to do with Pac REFUSING to take the OSDT due to excuses like I’m afraid of needles and 1 teaspoon of flood will weaken me excuses? You want to talk about dictate but didn’t Pac after the negotiations failed because of Pac was forcing his opponents to take the very same test he refused to take? Marquez had to do it in their 3rd fight amongst others. Floyd took the very same tests his opponents had to take to fight him so…..Any more excuses?
@@tumadrechupapinga6252 Mayweather does not overrule the commission. However, pac still agreed but wanted a cut off so he wouldn't get a test the day before the fight. He asked for a 7 day cut off with a test directly after the fight. Dude, some people just don't do well with blood tests, everyone is different.
You failed to answer how this is relevant to Paulies issues, u also failed to answer why Paulie has such a public and vocal issue against pacman but not to Mayweather, Fury, Canelo etc. Also... Pacman has never failed a test... So...?
@@tumadrechupapinga6252 First negotiations was def Pacs fault but the 2nd and 3rd? It was all public information how Pac has accepted the contract and even agreed to olympic style testing. Even moved the cutoff date from 14 days down to 7 or so. Yet Floyd refused to sign it. And to add to that, the contract signing and fight announcement was live on TV, and had an actual live countdown on ESPN and multiple boxing websites. That was also around the same time Pac won his slander/defamation case against Floyd and Goldenboy who was accusing of peds at the time. And chose to settle outside of court with a 6 figure payment. Pac doubled down by taking an olympic testing with his fights against Rios and I think also Hatton.
Innocent until proven guilty
Floyd positive
Canelo positive
Pacquiao past all the test🤔🤔🤔
Manny ran mountains and spar 36 rounds for his training. You be saying like Inoue is on PEDs even though he been tested negative all the time.
Someone told him that they saw it personally themselves, key word told him. And since you don't want to throw anyone under the bus by naming names, your opinion has 0 weight as facts.
And if for some reason let's just say hypothetically he was (even if there was no proof whatsoever), any fighter would still take that fight for the payday. The only one that didn't was ES Jr but we all know he might be dealing with other things that probably didn't warrant the risk/reward. And this is my opinion as well but maybe he definitely wouldn't have dodged that fight had he never got into that accident.
Teddy Atlas said he seen an email from pacquiaos camp asking Mayweathers camp “if pacquiao fails the test can we keep the results private?” Teddy may be biased or delusional but he’s never been known as a bold face liar. I’ll take teddy’s and Paulies words over random angry fans.
@@matthewanthony4606 link Teddy atlas claiming this? Until then...
Lol facts he also doesn’t want to get sued by Manny how Floyd had to pay Manny for saying he was taking ped’s but going to court opens them up and they don’t want that too many skeletons in their closet
Fire segment & title
So no proof he juiced. Got it
@@justice4641 The proof is that there has never--ever--been another bantamweight who emerged from obscurity to, all of a sudden, start mowing down lightweights, welterweights, junior middleweights even--and not just random fighters but champions and some of the certified beasts of those larger weight classes. It's not only unprecedented; it's unfathomable. And if there were any doubt remaining whether Pacquiao gave himself an illicit, chemical-kenetic advantage, he himself erased it when he refused to submit to blood testing, citing one silly pretext after another. And he himself only added to the certainty of his cheating when Juan Manuel Marquez used PEDs in preparation for their fourth fight, in which he scored an unforgettable and savage knockout over Pacquiao, and Pacquiao did not offer a word of protest or complaint but remained silent, unable to point out the speck in his opponent's eye while there was a log in his own.
Why would a small Pacquiao clinch a huge Margarito. That’s silly
Have you ever boxed?
You telling a dude that was a world champ that faces top fighters why clinch smh
Haha you guys are clueless!!
Who on Earth would a small man like Pacquiao who never clinches start to clinch with a huge man like Margarito?
Oh so Margarito can put all his weight on Pacquiao.?
How foolish would you be to let a man of his size and weight be in a clinch with you especially when fighting Pacquiao.
Yeah I’m sure I’d like a boxer weighing 20pts heavier on the night to clinch with with.
How silly do you guys sound now.
This was Cotto after Magarito and a difficult fight against Clottey at a catch weight against the beat version of Pacquiao. Timings everything.
Amen brotha
I appreciate most of your point of views Paulie and agree with the majority of what you say. There have been high level fighters busted for PEDs throughout the years. Pacquiao, as crazy as it might sound, has never been bust. The most he's guilty of has been weight clauses to make fights happen and that also cannot be overlooked, but honestly, could be the reason behind some of his higher weight performances. At least until he settled into welterweight and stopped asking for weight stipulations.
That said, I'm also not aware that roids give you a better chin. Could they help? Not sure there is any proven data that your chin gets better from roids. Lastly, a lot of people forget Pacquiao at Welterweight was not much different than him fighting at 130lbs. At 130lbs, his fight night weight was around 145lbs. When he was fighting at 147lbs, his fight night weight was around 149lbs. In most cases, he was underweight during the weigh-in because he wasn't a true welterweight.
So the misconception is that he was a little guy, but the reality is whether he was fighting at 130lbs or 147lbs, his fight night weight was very similar. Let's also remember, he wasn't quite 1 punch power at 147lbs as he was at lighter weights. He got a ref stoppage on Cotto. ODLH quit on the stool. He rarely had KO's at welterweight. He blitzed Hatton, but that was 140lbs and probably would have been Pacquiao's most effective career weight class had there been better competition within it to stay there.
2008 Pacquiao was a lightweight 135 and 29 years old, year and a half later he was 30 years old and 147. Its 12 pounds but around the age of 30 lots of boxers go up weight
No they don't. At 30 your test starts to go down so you can keep going up because you not going to carry your relative bmi to a new weight class. You will be a pudgy mess trying to move up.
One fight only at 135. A pit stop basically. Look at Manny’s family members, they’re all his size.
Hates Pacman cause he gt smashed and thought Manny was gonna aswell but didn't realise that little Filipino was something special.
Pacquiao has never failed a test, “I know people on the inside” without naming anyone is like saying “I know people that have confirmed Abraham Lincoln came back and Sniped JFK”
Paulie took the Mayweather drug test excuse and ran with it and still is to this day. I’m surprised his own neighborhood gym would have this weasel around 😂
Like saying Jesus, the Bible , Muslims and Mohammed are real but nonody under the age of 2010 was ever there
"People in the inner circle" easy way to carve out a lie. Keep it up. 🤣🤣🤣
Because Yk better then him buddy?
@@paoloazce9343 because we know pac never failed a drug test
Wow there are so many pac fangirls who get offended at the mere thought of Pacquiao on PEDs. Can you not even remotely contemplate it? Every fighter is on substances legal or not
@@chrismason4449 stupidest shit I’ve ever heard
@@FatbobRellneither did Lance Armstrong
Paulie comparing Pac to his own ability. Pac was a genetic freak, trained hard and was matched appropriately.
If you wanna say PEDs made him stronger or whatever, fine. But there Ain’t no steroid in the world that could make you absorb punches/ have a better chin. Pac has an ATG chin even with the the Marquez KO. He was able to take punches from all these bigger guys for the majority of his career.
I would like Paulie to talk about James Toney, Roy Jones, Holyfield, Mayweather, Mosley, Vitali, Povetkin, Fernando Vargas.. people who actually GOT caught using something cus he never talks about them. I understand what he says tho, all of them are on something, not neccesary steroids. It can be some type of supplements, or something like that. Anyways my believe is that Cotto was too drained because of the catchweight and that's why he was so weak against Pac. And i'm not bashing Pac, Floyd did the same with Canelo. The "A" sides. Canelo did it with Kovalev. Ray Leonard fought and knocked out Donny lalonde too, at a catchweight and Lalonde was way bigger than Sugar Ray.
Ali took pain shots. His personal Doctor said so.
cotto weighed against clottey at 146. He weighed Pacman at around 145 and was heavier post weigh-in. Cotto was arguably ranked the best welter at that time and Pacquiao walked through cotto despite moving up in weight. Give the guy some credit...
Hearns went down from jr. middle to welter at around 143 lbs (OR 145) yet I give Leonard every credit in the world in beating him, so why couldn't we with pac?
Floyd never “got caught using something” 🤡also why’d you leave out Canelo and Fury? Guys who actually failed for peds? Clown
@@matthewanthony4606 Looks like my comment struck a nerve on a Floyd fan. Just let it slide. Floyd got caught injecting 750 ml of IV's right in the butt
Of course everybody is on the juice if they're better than you... Right Paulie?
Hahaha Paulie was just an ok fighter. He thinks too highly of himself. And he can't believe there are better fighters than him.
He put Amir down as below average. He beat Paulie up. lol
Pauline was a world champion. I guarantee he would make any casual piss blood including you pactards
I think these podcasters talk a little to much but Paulie is proven really proven so his opinion in boxing should be heard
"was just an ok fighter"
You, clearly, have no clue what you're talking about.
He wasn’t okay he was good he lacked power but made with everything else and everyone knew him all the boxing gyms everyone respects him
Jealousy and envy.
Paulie is basically saying how great Pac is without saying he is great🤣😂😅. This guy mad cus Pac didn't give him a payday.
Skinny 175lbs - age 22..
Brick shithouse 210lbs - age 26 without an ounce of fat.
Evander Holyfield..
Thoughts Paulie??
I think enhanced drugs
Evander looked like he was juicing in MHO!💉💉🥊🥊
I think you spelled his name wrong it's Evan Fields.
Lmao paulie slipping in "canelo" towards the end, whenever suggests "canelo" is on peds everyone just jumps to call that person a hater but it's no secret he's been on something ever since the ggg rematch, he doesn't fade in fights anymore and he's just walking through guys in higher weights now too, just jumping up and down in weight with unlimited power and stamina lol
now say that without crying
Youre going to make Canelo fans cry
@Gio first off, I like Canelo. Second, did he popped for steroids use in the past? The answer to blind Canelo man fans, he’s he been positive for PEDs. Canelo fans take offense like babies
@@vansmoken4172 "canelo man fans" watch out everyone, we got a little boxing ego fanboy over here.
@Gio yeah because of history testing positive. I’m just saying
Paulie still loves Floyd though after that whole IV gate even though he's never needed to inject any vitamins just a solution into his hands to numb them because of his hand issues. It was also Floyd who denied a drug penalty clause that was in the millions of violated which he did . Paulie just love Floyd because he's American and has a defensive style which Paulie favors
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I'm going to copy and paste the important section of that article......
Pacquiao complained of a right shoulder injury suffered in training April 4, resulting in a rotator-cuff tear.
He had been taking injections of lidocaine, bupivacaine and betamethasone, all approved by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, but an injection of the pain-relief and anti-inflammatory medications was not allowed on fight night by the Nevada Athletic Commission, which had no advance notice of the injury.
All prohibited substances in this class are Specified Substances.
All glucocorticoids are prohibited when administered by any injectable, oral [including oromucosal (e.g. buccal, gingival, sublingual)] or rectal route.
INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO:
Beclometasone
Betamethasone
Rehydration and peds aren’t the same thing you brainlet. College wrestlers use them after cutting weight. Jfc you people are dense
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I definitely understand what Paulie is saying when it comes to the testing He was basically saying they just want to create a superstar. He is correct. It's all about the money instead of the protection of the fighters. He just didn't come out and say that. Probably because of the criticism and backlash if he would made that statement.
Your essentially saying Manny was protected. The Tim Bradley and Jeff Horn decisions belie those statements. I say it was just the opposite. Boxing took advantage of Manny because he was from another country yet bent over backwards to protect other fighters. Floyd showed up with the same IV Lance Armstrong used and Boxing looked the other way.
Same thing in athletics, everyone makes lots of money if you make lots of superstars that can beat testing and set the world alight with spectacular enhanced performances that the public naively think is naturally achieved
@@santosonly7 you’re a smart man
@@santosonly7 I was unaware of Floyd and him showing up with the same IV as Armstrong. As far as the Horn decision. He did not beat PAC Man. Bradley I'll agree with . Boxing is protecting image and marketing by creating superstars. I take nothing away from those guys abilities as great fighters, it's not about fighters like Manny protecting others it's about the sports governing bodies and regulations. Turning a blind eye to one and not the other , because they know the ability and how much revenue a fighter can make compared to other fighters.
@@rpm2085 Not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not when you’re saying you’re unaware , but yes the night before the Manny fight Floyd was caught using an intravenous IV to inject 750 ml of saline and vitamins. If you are familiar with PEDs you would know why this is illegal and why it is strictly prohibited.
Sound like CNN talking about a “ an inside source “ told me .. but no name. That’s quite an accusation Paulie
12:14 Paulie doesn't see this straight. Manny did win and lose. Just like Ali. He just destroyed his own point
Paulie always hated on Pac.
If he hates peds so much why he doing a boxing show with Roy Jones, Tarver, Marquez all 3 have taken. But says nothing
Pauli has always been a Pac-Man hater unfortunately.
Paulie you were definitely right about Pac. I noticed it in the second Morales fight, and so did Morales.
ya you notice it eh? even though, not once he tested positive. However, you got floyd who tested multiple times and was juiced up when he fought Pacman
@@jd3515 not sure if Floyd was juiced. I only say that because as Floyd went up in weight his Ko ratio drastically declined. Look at his Ko ratio below 147. Pac’s ko ratio got better as he went up which is insane. I was stunned the way he dismantled Cotto, and Morales in their second fight. I 💯% believe Miguel Cotto was always clean, and very unlucky to have faced two of the biggest cheats in the sport meaning Pac, and Margarito .
@@gariejoyce5263 I would say you are right about Margarito and delusional about Pacquiao. However, you may include Mayweather for failing drug policy multiple times.
@@gariejoyce5263 dunno if cotto felt the same sentiment.. considering he went to visit the man and show his respects when pac was training to fight spence. Dumb ****
@@mosburgz if u look back. You’ll notice the talk of him being on juice didn’t start for awhile after the Cotto fight . Maybe im wrong , but if he was ever juiced it was in that Cotto fight .
You always compare urself to Manny as an example but u will never understand that u are not on Manny's level. not even on Hattons level. Not even on Broners level. Manny is a tier 1 boxer. You are just on tier 3 or maybe 4.
What evidence is there that pacman was juicing? Other than fighters with little to no power like paulie and Floyd making baseless accusations?
A blind man can see he was juicing stop the cap
@@tommytaylor7618 once again another dummy speaking w 0 evidence… just his emotions
I have to agree with Paulie, I saw something different in Pac after the Diaz fight. I saw him fill out to quickly and with a man of his work rate to pick up that weight does not make sense. His extreme work rate would not allow him to bulk up so quickly!
uh huh yep , bang on right here
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I did find it odd that Pac went from being dropped by flyweights to taking flush shots from power hitting welterweights like no problem. Guys like Cotto and Margarito were dropping everybody at 147 yet Pacquaio took their shots like nothing and was hurting them. What other fighter been able to move up that many weight classes and do that? That would be like Canelo moving up to bridgerwright and knocking out 220 pound guys.
Yea a little suspect, he fought bivol and looked like a welterweight hitting a light heavyweight for sure , he cut the clen out of his diet for sure
Facts this the part everybody ignores yea its not impossible to COMPETE well and beat naturally bigger guys but to get knocked out by smaller guys and walk thru bigger guys is just unheard of thats like me slapping you and you go unconscious and than me hitting you with a brick and your just fine lmao
@@lildbabyy2541that was the malnourished Pac. Pac at 147 was still the smaller guy but he was at his best weight. He walks around at 156+. Look at his family members, they’re all the same build, same calves, same sized head. Does that mean they all took peds? 😂 be fr
Yup
cotto said that he believes that pacquiao was on ped's but he took the fight because of the payday and he knew how to take care of himself. it was an interview after his retirement in puerto rico.
No proof and no evidence but accused Pac of using steroids lol.
Paulie's proof is guessing or he said, she said. #lol
Pacquiao refused Olympic style drug testing
@@garrygarcia5008 he gets tested before and after the fights. Show me one positive test result.
@@Daojuan then why didn’t he agree to the olympic style drug testing lol that’s why the fight vs Floyd never happened in 2009
@@Daojuan And Pac agreed to all of Mayweather's diva drug testing demands by 2011 but Floyd still didn't want the fight
PAC was on that juice
I wonder what paulie thinks of canelo then…. He’s doing the same thing now. Moving up and down in weight stopping giants here and there
He's not doing the same thing. He's only a 4 division champion.
He thinks that Clenelo really likes Mexican beef.
from just a fan perspective and not being in that world i have always just assumed everyone was on gear. if everyone is on something than no one is on anything.
He does have valid points one thing I must have point out he does have resentment he was permanently banned and kicked out of wild card Freddie doesn’t want him there so there might be hurt feelings.
How has Pacquiao never failed a test….?
Canelo did so don’t give me it’s because of who he is and the level of status he has in the boxing world.
Pacquiao is a freak of nature and a one off. It’s as simple as that.
If they are all on it then they are all on the same even level.
And Pacquiao was the most tested fighter of his generation. Even was tested more than Floyd. I think Floyd (by extension to Paulie) was just jealous of Manny's accomplishments (i.e. risk risk, high reward type fights).
Pacquiao refused Olympic style drug testing. That’s why the mayweather fight happened so late
@@lilpenny1982 what ?? pacroid said after losing to morales that the blood test drained him and thats why he dont like needles during training camp
@Gabriele Squaratti so why did the other guys failed??? Canelo failed
@@garrygarcia5008 facts!
It was obvious Manny was on the juice!!!
By this logic, Canelo migh br the greatest drug cheat on earth.
Heres the difference canelo failed and blamed it on mexican cow. Pac never failed a test
I remember reading from Ring Magazine and he said that old washed up De La Hoya would beat Pacquiao. Everything this guy says is trash.
Paulie does the talking, Many does the walking.
Paulie: You spoke for over ten minutes and didn’t say sh!t. Please on behalf of Filipinos world wide…KEEP MANNY’S NAME OUT YOUR FREAKING MOUTH. *Will Smith Voice*
I love the honesty, I hate it when I get spoon fed Bulls... but paulie just says it how it is
Boxing is a dirty dark business ...not even boxing casuals know the extent of it...that being said, I feel "Pacman" was clean throughout his career. Eventhough there were alot of negative narratives about Pacquiao. There were actually no facts...I respect your opinion and thank you for your insight and bringing it to light💡. "Pops"#truschoolsports🥊🥊
Paulie made a bias argument without stating any facts or proof - he even hesitated to snitch on that one person in Manny's circle who alleged Manny was using enhanced performing drugs. It clearly sounds Paulie is still hating or simply jealous of Manny's career
Imagine what Pacman would have done to Paulie!! R1 KO
pac man was 💯 on peds
The powers that be used Manny because of his fighting style and allowed him to take PEDs to challenge Mayweather, but Floyd was smart and his own boss.
The powers that be allowed Floyd to take an illegal iv
Yet Floyd got caught using banned substance and manny never did. The irony
Starts to answer about 6mins in…
U legit saved me 3min 12sec haha
Even Floyd admit Pacquiao is the hardest boxer he ever fought because he set on angles. That was not even Pacquiao prime when they fought. Kenny Bayless save Floyd for allowing him to clinch all the time. So Pacquiao would have to reset again and again. Pacquiao offense is his defense.
He's just jealous 🤣🤣
Because Pacquiao is to good and maybe because he has that accent and he could be a little childish and annoying at times but really it's because his speed and angles it just leaves other boxers in awe they just don't know what to do
Paulie likes fighters that don't like to fight like himself.
Go sparr with him and tell me about how he doesn't like to fight
Most of the comments here show why they can never get steroids out of boxing. Moving up three weight classes at the end of your career and KTFOing hall of famers isn't just abnormal, it's impossible. But people want to believe in superheroes.
I don't always agree with what Paulie says and he wasn't my favorite fighter when I was a teenager in the boxing gym but I heard the same thing said. Lots of people who know the fight game speculated how a Boxer who doesn't lift weights goes from 112 pounds to 147 pounds and still keeps the stamina and power
Pacquiao doesn't lift weights?
Not the kind of weight workouts that puts on 30 lbs of muscle
@@wagna5491 How do you think he maintained the size over time fighting at such a bigger weight for so long? You may be correct about the floyd situation because I did hear that said back when they fought. Most of it just talk but everyone said there was so much money involved it would be easy to avoid testing.
@@MyMandick manny pacquiao used to eat 7k calories right?
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I agree with paulie on almost everything except for this subject. Manny is just a once in a lifetime fighter.
Paulie has crazy eyes
Probably because Pac never gave Paulie the opportunity to fight him at 140 and 147. Paulie might be a little bitter to miss out on a big payday.
But I think Paulie needs to understand that Pac was fighting A grade fighters (or fighters with belts) at that time.
Lol Paulie knew pac or Floyd would never fight him. He was only used a punching bag for guys like khan and cotto
@@dyshawnshine3644 Paulie gave Cotto problems but not Khan. Maybe styles makes fights.
For example peds is legal in boxing. still no one can achive 8 division champ. There so maNy fighters tested positive in peds but they way to far on pacmans achievements. Pacman is different.
I saw Pacquiao personally ang his bone size is bigger than his average height. Maybe if he was not poor before he might have grew larger but he was a malnourished kid. That is why he is stronger than his average size. I knew a lot of filipinos here who are smaller but lifting heavier stuff than an average people. My water supplier is 5 inches smaller than me, skinny guy, but his bone size is two times bigger than mine that is why he can lift 2 containers of water together straight to my unit at 3rd floor using stairs which i cannot..
Before the fight .. I picked cotto to win.. but PAC’s foot work and hand speed were too much n that cotto fight .. cotto was overwhelmed by punches from all over .. and those knock downs came from awkward punches/angles .. and that was the storyline for all his fights.. Hatton was the only one he beat with a devastating KO.. everyone else gotten taken by that Tornado of speed
Pacquiao fought a weight drained Cotto, and he KO'd a wash up Hatton too.
@Donchanli11 then Canelo didn't fight a washed Kovalev since he came after beating Alvarez and KOing Yarde. Plus Kovalev was still a champion.
Pacquio was on steriods doe u weren’t wrong paulie
To truly understand Pacquiao you need to live in the Philippines and really get to know the people. Their mentality, how they act, think, work, etc. Filipinos don't have a disrespectful attitude, matter of fact Asians are probably the most respectful people in the world. It's not a matter of disrespect with Filipinos, it's a matter of Filipinos having a "Can do" attitude. And that stems from the confidence of the Filipino people. They're just bred and wired differently. Remember basketball is the biggest sport in the Philippines, boxing is only 2nd. That's why Filipinos are so quick with their feet, they're naturally quick and fast. It's the warrior spirit man. Steroids peds etc are taboo in the Philippines. Filipinos there don't even know what they are and that's a great thing. Filipinos are not dirty fighters they're honorable and honest for the most part.
As a Filipino, I disagree with a lot of your comments but whatever.
You don’t speak for all Filipinos.
You don’t speak for all Filipinos.
@@russell2890 which part do you disagree?
@@kramzkie3872 most of them
The speed that kills which you dont have lady paulie
Paulie calling a spade a spade.. Pac-Man was going up in weight and his chin was even getting bigger all Mayweather wanted him to do was take a test.. every single performer in the world is on something to enhance performance just the way of the world unfortunately nobody gets to the top with hugs and smiles 😂 if you’re not cheating you’re not trying😂😂
It wasn't about the test it was about money. Because many pacquiao never failed a drug test
@@djdixon6202 The reason why the fight never happened in 2010 was because of the test; Manny didn’t want to accept the requirements
@@AyeYoBoxingWithMadiba but he did accept in the end you need to inform yourself before putting half baked statements
@@AyeYoBoxingWithMadiba It wasn't just the test majority of it was the money he had to literally give everything up to fight fluid. I'm. I know you remember this if you was around when this happened. Floyd had to get the bigger cut, fluid yet to get the paper views he had to wear the gloves that floyd wanted him to wear. Plus how are you gonna accuse this man of using steroids and he never felt a drug test? That is why he sued Floyd for deflammation and won.
I'm gonna put this to rest with this, Manny was trying to use Vada the night that him Floyd fought and that is a way more legitimate doping agency than usada. But Floyd shut that down, 🙄 I do not know why?
Mayweather takes painkillers for his hands, its well documented. He took it for the pacman fight. So if anyone was actually guilty of taking anything via IV its mayweather.
Paulie has a point.
Some fighters are untouchable Paulie. They're killing you in the comments.
It is shame my favourite boxer is mayweather, that means he was juicing as well!
Paulie got to lay off the ya yo you can hear the holes in his noise when he talks lol but gotta love Paulie keeps it real and if he does party it’s well deserved done better than I ever will in 3 lifetimes sadly.
Whittaker got caught with steroids
Its a fact that Manny has never tested positive. Ever. Everything else is just talk and speculation.
No type of PED makes you an all time great fighter. Alex Ariza was the strength and conditioning coach for many other fighters, why wouldn't they just "make" another superstar if these magic drugs exist?
Exactly bro.All this haters are just envy and jealous of Pac's achievements.
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Took the him 15 minutes of self loving to get to Pacman
I agree with Paulie 💯… Canelo is also taking 💉 for sure
Excellent insight and good question
I'm curious to know what Paulie thinks about Canelo
Paulie really read the comments 😂