Gira is a true intellectual. He did a lot of, shitty, drugs and didn't really have an education...and yet when he talks, he just has this way with his words that he truly knows what he is doing and that he strongly believes in what he is doing.
I don't understand why some are calling him "arrogant". He just stated that he doesn't have a sentimental attachment to Ian or his work, he just wanted to cover that song.
He did have a reputation of being hard to interview. I heard in the 90ies he hit a record company guy and wasn't allowed to play in Belgium for 5 years, don't know if it's true
Thanks heaps for posting this. Not many Gira/Swans interviews from the early days are floating around here, so I was really happy to find this. Cheers.
Let's be honest with ourselves... Gira probably saw A LOT of "poseurs" attached to Ian Curtis/Joy Division that were only around after Ian killed himself. Gira isn't wrong in what he said. I even saw it as well with MY friends growing up. They all wore Ian's suicide like some badge of honor. Notice how Joy Division's popularity soared after Ian's suicide - that's the definition of romanticizing.
wee poo so i saw this video about a year ago, I love the song (that I now is "love will tear us apart") and your comment helped me find one of my favorite bands of all time (and my sisters)
he must have read a lot on all his travellings of the world-MAN,I HAVE READ NECRONOMICON-where theres a warning in the front of the bookurvive,about Reading it....And the Things this Gira is talking/Reading in his books,is way,way,way darker!!!I havent seen anything so full of darkness and horror as this guy is telling in his story of his life-I must say I find this mann facsineting and have respect for his ability to survive!!!!
some type of psychological suggestion of things you may not be able to cope with ive read the Necronomicon supposedly the original text is a collage along with modern book of ancient majick rites but yeah I got to the part where you summon the watcher and never made it past that but that includes I would believe some type of astral projection and the ''watcher'' is there to guard so no other spirit possess your body like a neuro conducter or medium message shell when your detached disembodied spirit is else where in those dimensions
Kim Clark Champniss from City Limits show on the Much Music(Canadian equivalent of MTV) calling him out on BS at the end. Was Gira's reply at the end supposed to be a joke?. I doubt supermarkets had muzak in the late 80's, or even radio much less playing playing Joy division a band most people would of never heard of. Most people who were into post punk underground or alternative outside of the UK didnt know who joy division was until the mid 2000's or even later
While toddlers were watching Big Bird recite the alphabet, a little boy with the head of a melon was watching this interview. Does anyone know what Anthony is up to these days?
Gotta be honest I love Swans and Michael Gira is a musical genius, but hearing him say "no, a lot of people have this sentiment attached to him cause he hung himself" is really cringe and cocky and embarassing. It's not *because* he hung himself you dope, it's his life story and his lyrics, his baritone voice, everything. That came off so badly, I'm embarassed for him.
Nope, he’s right. It’s like nowadays when pop stars die suddenly people start caring about their music, they start acting like they’ve always been fans, etc. Seems like such a thing goes back many, many years.
He's right. Same thing happened to Kurt Cobain and every other artist that commits suicide, people ignore the struggles of these artists until they die and then suddenly have such an emotional connection to their music. Fake ass bullshit
IMO it's true. People who love Joy Division both for Curtis' talent AND the story both exist, but once you know that Curtis hung himself it's kind of hard to not read that into like, all of their music
gira looks cool. he always has. and i like new mind. but he dismisses Ian Curtis and love will tear us apart when the one idea wonder (gira not Curtis) hasn't wrote a really memorable tune. EVER.
I love both bands. Michael Gira is not slacking off Ian Curtis. I guess their LWTUA cover was a millstone around their neck. I have like 300 Swans items but I still think Joy Division were better.
His expression at that last remark is priceless.
That cigar was out the whole time...
Just to say that I'm from England and our supermarkets rock!
Gira is a true intellectual. He did a lot of, shitty, drugs and didn't really have an education...and yet when he talks, he just has this way with his words that he truly knows what he is doing and that he strongly believes in what he is doing.
He used to live in Europe as a kid, that might explain a lot :-)
He's also very well read. He loves literature
I like him...
He has spoken of times when he was in prison as a kid and did a lot of reading.
His parents were rich. He's a trustfund kid, look it up
I don't understand why some are calling him "arrogant". He just stated that he doesn't have a sentimental attachment to Ian or his work, he just wanted to cover that song.
He did have a reputation of being hard to interview. I heard in the 90ies he hit a record company guy and wasn't allowed to play in Belgium for 5 years, don't know if it's true
@@wanneske1969 let's be honest, most interviewers are like toddlers. And toddlers are annoying.
Nothing is really learned from interviews that isn't learned from the music. It's okay to be difficult to interviewers
Thanks heaps for posting this. Not many Gira/Swans interviews from the early days are floating around here, so I was really happy to find this. Cheers.
Now I can see Maynards inspiration in his "beeing" in the early 90's
he has a deep ass voice!!
You couldn't tell from his music?
@@CA-or9ix I could tell by his music but I still was stupidly shocked when hearing his speaking voice though
@@robinfun2123 just giving you a hard time. I understand. I didn't expect a response to my reply to your two year old comment ha ha
@@CA-or9ix oh lol
Let's be honest with ourselves...
Gira probably saw A LOT of "poseurs" attached to Ian Curtis/Joy Division that were only around after Ian killed himself.
Gira isn't wrong in what he said. I even saw it as well with MY friends growing up. They all wore Ian's suicide like some badge of honor.
Notice how Joy Division's popularity soared after Ian's suicide - that's the definition of romanticizing.
Its not The Swans. Its Swans. fucking Swans.
They used to be called _The_ Swans. Don't know if that's what they called themselves but people called them so.
Settle down you goose.
Seattle down
There is a band called The Swans. They play inoffensive folk
Weird to think he's 2 years older than Ian Curtis
Thank you, for having the wherewithal to share this within yr rights... 😊
Absolutely Love U guys!!!!!!!
Zach Hill is in this comment section and i am too scared to talk to him.
huh? where? ARE YOU zach hill?
He's talking about Inxy
Inxy is not Zach hill shut the fuck up
Zach here, whats up
Zach here.
Thanks man.
ayo what's good zach hill here. i'm currently working on the next 5 death grips albums actually.
I love the swans
THE SWANS
Sure maybe that Ian curtis comment wasnt the "smoothest" thing i ever seen but i still love the guy and i like him just the way he is
It's the music video of theirs - New Mind.
LOL his face at the end
yes
He sounds lime Cobain except he endure. Bless Michael GEE-RAH
think Biosphere used this interview somewhere in his Patashnik album somewhere. i’m trying to find where exactly. Michael Gira is amazing btw!
did you find where it is, by any chance?
@@opus-px3hz i did not, however i think it’s heard subtly in The Shield
@gunnison1031 i see, thank you for the reply.
Hear No Evil is a great record.
Deu deu deu deon deu deu deon deu deu deu deaon no love no faith
rolling eyes
whats that first song they play of his (right before joy division)
wee poo New Mind, its from Children of God.
bryanscheeler Thanka man!
*Thanks
wee poo so i saw this video about a year ago, I love the song (that I now is "love will tear us apart") and your comment helped me find one of my favorite bands of all time (and my sisters)
Ariel Pink's dad.
:)
Dude... is that Bill Bailey in the beginning seconds?
Not even surprised that Joy Division is on a supermarket radio. That's fucking hipster central at this rate.
Yung Kosmos it's a popular song lmfao it was in the charts the radio was probably just playing the charts
he must have read a lot on all his travellings of the world-MAN,I HAVE READ NECRONOMICON-where theres a warning in the front of the bookurvive,about Reading it....And the Things this Gira is talking/Reading in his books,is way,way,way darker!!!I havent seen anything so full of darkness and horror as this guy is telling in his story of his life-I must say I find this mann facsineting and have respect for his ability to survive!!!!
Ground Control-X I have respect for your ability to express yourself because you seem like you shouldn't be able to.
some type of psychological suggestion of things you may not be able to cope with ive read the Necronomicon supposedly the original text is a collage along with modern book of ancient majick rites but yeah I got to the part where you summon the watcher and never made it past that but that includes I would believe some type of astral projection and the ''watcher'' is there to guard so no other spirit possess your body like a neuro conducter or medium message shell when your detached disembodied spirit is else where in those dimensions
@@mindmy609 yes,its a funny book..☺
funny talking about joy division being heard at grocery stores ive heard them here in the states at stores
Same here, I've been shopping at Albertsons and heard Love Will Tear Us Apart, and I'm like wtf?!
Resembles Tiny Music/No.4 era Scott Weiland
Did the interviewer just call him a hipster?
+False Dawn it sounds like he said must have been a hip super market
+Tricia Biotop Yeah you are right.
The term apparently goes all the way back to 1940s
He’s obviously saying “hip super market”
Tin Garaus well, I think it has its roots in jazz moreso than the bears
He looks no different now
Mr. Gira would probably agree...
1:30 song?
New mind i fink
taco taco
hes really had his teeth fixed up hey
Kim Clark Champniss from City Limits show on the Much Music(Canadian equivalent of MTV) calling him out on BS at the end.
Was Gira's reply at the end supposed to be a joke?.
I doubt supermarkets had muzak in the late 80's, or even radio much less playing playing Joy division a band most people would of never heard of.
Most people who were into post punk underground or alternative outside of the UK didnt know who joy division was until the mid 2000's or even later
@queenmcsleaze You don't think so?
Hell, I'm a straight male and I can see he's pretty hot.
While toddlers were watching Big Bird recite the alphabet, a little boy with the head of a melon was watching this interview. Does anyone know what Anthony is up to these days?
The New Mind video sucks ass, though...
What IS with this interviewer's voice? God damn. I'm not picking on him, but god damn. It cracks by default. He's like having a hiccup all the time.
Gotta be honest I love Swans and Michael Gira is a musical genius, but hearing him say "no, a lot of people have this sentiment attached to him cause he hung himself" is really cringe and cocky and embarassing. It's not *because* he hung himself you dope, it's his life story and his lyrics, his baritone voice, everything. That came off so badly, I'm embarassed for him.
I also do care about a one-off remark from over 30 years ago on a random 2 minute tv segment:)
Nope, he’s right. It’s like nowadays when pop stars die suddenly people start caring about their music, they start acting like they’ve always been fans, etc. Seems like such a thing goes back many, many years.
This comment is cringe, what did you expect? Thats Michael Gira, he is rather infamous for not giving fucks
He's right. Same thing happened to Kurt Cobain and every other artist that commits suicide, people ignore the struggles of these artists until they die and then suddenly have such an emotional connection to their music. Fake ass bullshit
IMO it's true. People who love Joy Division both for Curtis' talent AND the story both exist, but once you know that Curtis hung himself it's kind of hard to not read that into like, all of their music
gira looks cool. he always has. and i like new mind. but he dismisses Ian Curtis and love will tear us apart when the one idea wonder (gira not Curtis) hasn't wrote a really memorable tune. EVER.
Steve Thomas- How so?
Moron
I don't think his intention is to create a really memorable tune.
Eden Prison?
I love both bands. Michael Gira is not slacking off Ian Curtis. I guess their LWTUA cover was a millstone around their neck. I have like 300 Swans items but I still think Joy Division were better.