I got into archery for small game, I’m excited to see what I can do once I get more accurate with my new 45 (was pretty good with my 25 lb, but couldn’t group at anything past 20 yards)
357 mag brass with a little weight in it works great at great price, usually free with a trip to the range. Glue them or use a nail or punch to put a dimple
Seeing those arrows being shot against a boulder made me wince. Here in the U.K aluminium arrows go from $7 - $25 each, and carbon fibre arrows can be up to $60 each
Hey there's something special about primitive archery that I just love a lot you get more satisfaction using a longbow or recurve bow over a compound bow
I've tried recurve, longbow, and a bit of compound. And I gotta say, I like my longbow the best. Even if you like the modern accessories of the compound bow, there are modern longbows that allow you to attach whatever you want on them. And even without that, there are many ways of attaching stuff onto a tradbow. The process of drawing and shooting the arrow is just so much more satisfying on a longbow.
You can buy all of these on Alibaba or AliExpress. That’s most likely where 3Rivers gets them. The small game points are 58¢/piece and I like them a lot. Haven’t had a single one break on me. They have a lot of good broad heads too.
I've taken a weighed section of wire coat hanger and wrapped it tightly around the shaft of a glue on judo point to customize its weight. A small amount of jb weld prevented noise in my quiver. Held up well.
Excellent Video! I recently found your channel and it has reignited my interest in traditional archery. Thanks for producing useful and interesting content.
Enjoyed the video. I really miss the days I use to go out stump shooting. I have used the judo, the one with the star, a rubber blunt and plane steel blunte. My shoulders just hurt to much to shoot to much. I bought a 46 # long bow last year. I can shoot it but not a lot.
I enjoyed that video, thanks for making it along with all of your other videos, particularly your videos on shooting tips. Do you mind telling me a good place to order leather from, because I plan on making my own finger stalls. Best of luck in your future endeavors Clay.
.357 mag case can be poured with a few drops of melted lead to get it to whatever weight you want. It makes a nice tough blunt that will perform as well as those points at a much nicer price point. If you want it to stop the arrow, get a couple of 4 penny finish nails and drill the tip. Push them through, clip them to the desired length and bend it so that it won't come out. Done. Really like your work. Well done.
With stumps what would be the max depth i guess I have a piece of stump thats bout 12 inches thick not sure what type of wood it is as my target stand but thought bout stumping it to learn gap and string walking
What a blast, stump shooting. Point well taken about the hex head. I just called them blunts. They will go through brush better than anything, but have you ever seen a rabbit shot in the head by one of those things covered over by a rubber blunt. It will simply crush bugs bunny's widdle head. 38 or 357 casings work pretty well.
Just a thought (since this is like 4 years later ) in the world of air rifle , we have a measurement of foot pound of energy , I wonder if these can have such a reading . Only thing I can think of to determine how powerful these things can be is using ballistic gel
Great video. I know I'm 4 years late on my comment but regarding the judo's, they make decent stumpers but can get stuck to where I've had to cut them out with a knife. Also i once placed a bad shot on a grey squirrel with a judo. It hung up in his hide and away he went arrow an all. Never found either one. So I quit using Judo's for small game.
I use 23/64" Doug fir shafts, and I've found that a .357 magnum pistol cartridge fits perfectly on the 0.36" shaft. I use a softer hot melt glue from a glue gun rather than Bohning Ferr-L-Tite, and I just add a little lead bird shot to get whatever point weight I want. They look really cool too!
So if you tied fishing wire through the judo heads, do you think they could be reassembled, or do they fail so catastrophically that they can't be reassembled?
The last grouse I shoot with a judo the arrow went straight threw the bird didn’t even slow down did damage but was hell to find the bird I will be trying a larger surface area
u guy are living the life i dream about .....or at least i think so...i could see u have land and a family. u also love archery....im in the army and i work every day to get what u have
Suprised you didn't lose more! I find that the hex heads are pretty good for not skipping too bad, but I bet that tiger claw would bury under leaves like crazy
What was the bow draw weight? Id say it had to be less than 50lbs to have 2 arrows stay together! Just curious. My target tips just dig in towards China...dissapearing arrows galore
+Nikolai Janis Karner depends on what you're hunting. I'd say about 40 lbs for deer and small pigs. But it's more than just draw weight that you need to be concerned with.
If I shoot a person with one of these with a crossbow with about 125lb draw, will it kill them? Trying to keep trespassers from stealing my shit without causing permanent damage.
Does anyone out there prefer a Broadhead over judo's and blunts for small game? About 20 years ago I shot a squirrel with a judo. The judo hung up in the animals hide and away they went together. I never found either one
Seems to me that if you are a "do-it-yourself" type, why not tip your arrow with a pistol cartridge that you have weighted with solder. That combined with a flu-flu fletching should be about optimal and cheapest...
This was actually a really helpful comparison on stump heads. Although I don't shoot my recurve nearly as much as my compounds, I whack an awful lot of grouse, being from Washington State. I always have 2 Judo's in my quiver!
Gay means happy in normal English and not trash slang so I would say your correct, the music is very happy and upbeat. But if you were to be speaking in slang...well, your still incorrect in your context. ✌🏻
That shirt... right on!
Love it!
Where can we get one
I got into archery for small game, I’m excited to see what I can do once I get more accurate with my new 45 (was pretty good with my 25 lb, but couldn’t group at anything past 20 yards)
357 mag brass with a little weight in it works great at great price, usually free with a trip to the range. Glue them or use a nail or punch to put a dimple
Seeing those arrows being shot against a boulder made me wince. Here in the U.K aluminium arrows go from $7 - $25 each, and carbon fibre arrows can be up to $60 each
No way. Are you joking?
@@leifhoklin2681 Nope, here in Britain many items such as Spyderco knives, bows etc can be more than double the price they are in America
@@leifhoklin2681Yup, I’m extremely jealous of Americans.
Thanks Clay. Stumping is one of my favourite hobbies. I finished reading your book. It was excellent, and I'd highly recommend it.
+Karl Roberts Thanks Karl
Judo points rock.
I usually have a rubber blunt on stand by though for thick cover. Great video.
Keep it up
+Riverbendlongbows.com Thanks
Love the shirt.
Hey there's something special about primitive archery that I just love a lot you get more satisfaction using a longbow or recurve bow over a compound bow
Compounds just seem too expensive with a lot to go wrong. Durability is a big thing for me.
@@desertrainfrog1691 agree, recurve is the shit. Or even better, use non center shot bow.
@@desertrainfrog1691 ur missing out
I've tried recurve, longbow, and a bit of compound. And I gotta say, I like my longbow the best. Even if you like the modern accessories of the compound bow, there are modern longbows that allow you to attach whatever you want on them. And even without that, there are many ways of attaching stuff onto a tradbow.
The process of drawing and shooting the arrow is just so much more satisfying on a longbow.
You can buy all of these on Alibaba or AliExpress. That’s most likely where 3Rivers gets them. The small game points are 58¢/piece and I like them a lot. Haven’t had a single one break on me. They have a lot of good broad heads too.
But when i buy a product i don't want a cheap Chinese or Indian copy....3rivers ain't buying them from alibaba i promise you that...
RockHumper I can promise you they are. I know for a fact they are with 100% certainty, buddy. Bows too.
RockHumper You think just because you pay more for something and buy it from an American company it’s made in the USA with quality parts?
I've taken a weighed section of wire coat hanger and wrapped it tightly around the shaft of a glue on judo point to customize its weight. A small amount of jb weld prevented noise in my quiver. Held up well.
Excellent Video! I recently found your channel and it has reignited my interest in traditional archery. Thanks for producing useful and interesting content.
Subscribed, I just got into arrow hunting and this is really helping me to decide hmwhat arrow heads to use
U can just buy those adder collars that screw in behind your field tips. just like the tiger claw except the collar only for dirt cheap.
Enjoyed the video. I really miss the days I use to go out stump shooting. I have used the judo, the one with the star, a rubber blunt and plane steel blunte. My shoulders just hurt to much to shoot to much. I bought a 46 # long bow last year. I can shoot it but not a lot.
+Buckrun11 have you tried something like a 35# bow? I've got one that I use to work on my form sometimes and it'll shoot a light arrow quite well.
get a 30# pound bow
I love the sound of the slo mo arrows up against the rock. 🙃
I enjoyed that video, thanks for making it along with all of your other videos, particularly your videos on shooting tips.
Do you mind telling me a good place to order leather from, because I plan on making my own finger stalls.
Best of luck in your future endeavors Clay.
.357 mag case can be poured with a few drops of melted lead to get it to whatever weight you want. It makes a nice tough blunt that will perform as well as those points at a much nicer price point. If you want it to stop the arrow, get a couple of 4 penny finish nails and drill the tip. Push them through, clip them to the desired length and bend it so that it won't come out. Done. Really like your work. Well done.
good tips. I've used the .357 and 38 casings before. they work great.
Good video with traditional equipment.
I have had some ash and hickory arrows that survived direct hits to rocks like that, but not many..
With stumps what would be the max depth i guess I have a piece of stump thats bout 12 inches thick not sure what type of wood it is as my target stand but thought bout stumping it to learn gap and string walking
I flinched HARD at the rock shooting. That killed me a little bit inside.
Took one for the team!
What a blast, stump shooting. Point well taken about the hex head. I just called them blunts. They will go through brush better than anything, but have you ever seen a rabbit shot in the head by one of those things covered over by a rubber blunt. It will simply crush bugs bunny's widdle head. 38 or 357 casings work pretty well.
I’ve used 357 with some lead shot in them. They make great blunts!
Just a thought (since this is like 4 years later ) in the world of air rifle , we have a measurement of foot pound of energy , I wonder if these can have such a reading .
Only thing I can think of to determine how powerful these things can be is using ballistic gel
Great video. I know I'm 4 years late on my comment but regarding the judo's, they make decent stumpers but can get stuck to where I've had to cut them out with a knife. Also i once placed a bad shot on a grey squirrel with a judo. It hung up in his hide and away he went arrow an all. Never found either one. So I quit using Judo's for small game.
Fishing line leash?
Love the video, was considering the hammer, and this sealed it for me!
good head!
@@clayhayeshunter HA this comment made me laugh more than it should’ve I’m a fuckin child
Thanks Clay. Excellent!!! I’m still squirrel hunting and rabbit
I use 23/64" Doug fir shafts, and I've found that a .357 magnum pistol cartridge fits perfectly on the 0.36" shaft. I use a softer hot melt glue from a glue gun rather than Bohning Ferr-L-Tite, and I just add a little lead bird shot to get whatever point weight I want. They look really cool too!
cool , I think I'll give the hex head a try for rabbit and squirrel hunting.
Could you shave those weights before hand or drill them before or after and get a more precise set up?
So if you tied fishing wire through the judo heads, do you think they could be reassembled, or do they fail so catastrophically that they can't be reassembled?
enjoyed the video, thank you. still hope to see a white wood build along soon.
+Tradbow85 I'm headed to Florida later this spring and will cut some hickory while I'm there. Then we'll get started on that.
+Clay Hayes I'm excited for that, I mostly work white woods as most the hedge around here ends up as fence post.
+Tradbow85 Yep, there's a lot of people that only have access to white woods in their local area. it'll be good to cover.
The last grouse I shoot with a judo the arrow went straight threw the bird didn’t even slow down did damage but was hell to find the bird I will be trying a larger surface area
u guy are living the life i dream about .....or at least i think so...i could see u have land and a family. u also love archery....im in the army and i work every day to get what u have
If theres a will theres a way.
Nice video as always. Informative AND entertaining.
+J Young Thanks J
Thank you Clay.
Suprised you didn't lose more! I find that the hex heads are pretty good for not skipping too bad, but I bet that tiger claw would bury under leaves like crazy
+Benjamin Wood they’re actually all pretty good when it comes to keeping your arrows from burying under stuff.
What was the bow draw weight? Id say it had to be less than 50lbs to have 2 arrows stay together! Just curious. My target tips just dig in towards China...dissapearing arrows galore
+Diggs5012 This bow is a little over 50# at 28 inches.
I have used a metal detector to find some of mine the field tips . They bury them selves easily
What type of quiver is that? Beautiful bow btw
+kylerprochaska creekwalkertrading.com
great video thank you :)
Can you help me, i have a question
What is the minimum Drawweight for a hunting bow?
(sorry for the grammar im italian ;)
+Nikolai Janis Karner depends on what you're hunting. I'd say about 40 lbs for deer and small pigs. But it's more than just draw weight that you need to be concerned with.
+Clay Hayes thank ou for the answer :)
Hi Mate, Love all your vids and just curious what quiver is on your bow in this vid. Homemade?
Cheers
+Adrian Briggs check out the last vid I put out. I'm giving one away. It's from creekwalkertrading.com
Does this work with blunt practice tips?
Some blunts will work well for small game and stopping arrows.
hi , how about the rubber bunny busters ?
Nice video, good info!
+Steve Gardner Thanks Steve
Good info. Thank you.
Where would you get a bow like that
You would make it! Check out my website.
Hey, can you make a video about your Bow-quiver? It looks selfmade, so how do you made it???
Greetings from Germany
Chris
+FanaticNYC Hi Chris, that quiver came from creekwalkertrading.com
What's the legall draw weight for small game in canada
Got no idea bro.
Broken Cars look up your local regs, isn't one in Saskatchewan only for big game.
Unnecessary Stuff I wouldn't imagine any for small game, 20 pound will kill any small game.
Clay, you didn't include my favorite small game blunt.....the plumbing store 1/2' PEX plug.
Although, I love everyone of those.
I have had the tiger-claw style skip a long way, and get lost.
I didn’t think of that!
Do you sell the public land shirts ?
+John Hastings you can get them from backcountryhunters.org
Thanks
If I shoot a person with one of these with a crossbow with about 125lb draw, will it kill them? Trying to keep trespassers from stealing my shit without causing permanent damage.
probably not a good idea...
thubs up for all tge effort
I'm all thubs. You need a new keyboard. 😉🤔😁😀
makes me cringe to see ya shootin that rock!!!
they are al great stumpin heads been shootin them for years i still have the first judos i ever bought
Does anyone out there prefer a Broadhead over judo's and blunts for small game? About 20 years ago I shot a squirrel with a judo. The judo hung up in the animals hide and away they went together. I never found either one
Seems to me that if you are a "do-it-yourself" type, why not tip your arrow with a pistol cartridge that you have weighted with solder. That combined with a flu-flu fletching should be about optimal and cheapest...
I’ve certainly done that as well!
That cool 😀 l love your video 😀
Love your shirt :)
+bcarolynn Thanks, you can get one from backcountryhunters.org
+Clay Hayes Awesome, thanks!
Watching this because this thing piercing through the metal riot. Any body?
will please make a video on how deep they will bury themselves into ply wood
At 120fps of course you arent going to lose or break them much.
Judos aren't for stumps there for grouse. Blunt tips and arrows with damaged fletchings are for stumping.
I've used judo points for yrs for stumping..they work great, just gotta shoot half rotten stuff
No stumps were harmed during the filming of this video.
only stump heads!
This was actually a really helpful comparison on stump heads. Although I don't shoot my recurve nearly as much as my compounds, I whack an awful lot of grouse, being from Washington State. I always have 2 Judo's in my quiver!
Gawd dang $2-3 apiece?! Someone needs to check out alibaba or ebay.
What about normal bunts. way cheaper.
yes but they don't stop an arrow as well.
I have found the judo and hammer on wish.com for a lot less in 100 grains in 6 packs.
Every stump I shoot, my arrow breaks. Ugh 😑
can't beat a judo
wow
The music wrecked the video a little bit.
🤷♂️
@@clayhayeshunter perfect response lol! I watched the video on 2x fast forward, and it was hilarious
I shot a 3 dollar arrow at a rock once and the only thing that broke was the nock came off
+Jayden Gaffey ha, sometimes it works out that way!
I gotta say that music is atrocious. Super gay
+Jared t oh well, can't please everyone...
Gay means happy in normal English and not trash slang so I would say your correct, the music is very happy and upbeat. But if you were to be speaking in slang...well, your still incorrect in your context. ✌🏻