My favorite UA-cam channel finally gives us an awesome long awaited update 🤙🏼 I always look forward to these videos & appreciate how humble & down to earth you guys are. Please don’t ever change.
Its so fun and unique seeing everything that goes into a build like this, but from 2 brothers in their own garage doing all the work themselves! Keep up the great work guys, super entertaining and informative stuff!
Can you guys talk about everything possible when it comes to mounting the front shocks and bump stops. How to bump them out properly, shock mount material thickness/ material, how to set shock angle, etc
Also great idea on the trans slip. I’ve done it on a few trucks and it works great!! Don’t forget to put silicone on the bolt into the tail shaft otherwise it’ll drip oil all over your new driveway. ask me how I know 🤦🏻♂️
Awesome work again guys. If possible, can we get an update once the engine cage and trans tunnel tubes are installed. Just to have a look at the tube work before you box it in with firewall, floorpan etc. Just a thought. 👌👌
Guessing it was hindsight. Any reasons you didn't convert to an extended cab, seems wheelbase and cab room would be good? truck was cut in half anyways. Not bashing just curious if that came up during the build process. Great looking bad azz truck! ext or standard cab.👍
Large reason is because this is a truck that Ryan already owned! Some of the earlier videos on the channel were of the front end being built, the cage and back half are naturally a succession to that.
Beautiful work as always. As far as 3D scanning goes I'm excited to see it on future builds! I'm not sure if you're going all in on an expensive scanner or not, but in my opinion it isn't necessary (may make sense for your use case though if you're doing it all the time and selling parts). You can also get high quality scans through photogrammetry. I plan on making a video on this soon, but basically you can get great scans using just your phone plus either meshroom or something like 3DF zephyr, to turn the pictures into 3D models. Meshroom is free and open source, but has a bit of a learning curve if the automatic settings aren't working for you. 3D zephyr costs about $200 for the non-trial version but computes very quickly and is much more "push play and go". Both take in 2D pictures and output colored, textured, .obj files.
Thank you for the comment regarding this! I have been looking into some of the entry level scanners that aren't too pricey. Speaking to a few people that have the scanners I am interested in, the results are really promising for the price point. We will definitely talk about it in a video once we acquire a scanner.
That’s the plan at some point in the future! For now it’s staying simple with factory engine/trans package. We are talking EASILY another 20+ thousand dollars to put a v8 in this truck between everything involved ontop of what this truck is already costing
I have a question regarding “over lays” when fabricating plate Work. Besides the awesome look of them, how are they better or stronger than just upsizing the wall thickness of the plate to begin with? Great info, keep up the strong work…👌
Thats a good question! The main reason for overlays, in my opinion, is to support the bolt hole locations or a load path areas. If you run one thick plate for everything youre adding extra weight thats not really necessary. With overlays you can support what you need to and then cut out the "fat" in the rest of the areas. You can also get some nice design out of them as well which is an added bonus
You said you wouldn't use factory frame on the next truck. Would you use rectangle tubing or round tube for the main rails? I'm getting ready to build a willys pickup with a similar suspension setup.
Depends on the intended use of the vehicle. For a prerunner, creating our own rectangular tube frame would likely be the best solution for production time/simplicity/cost.
What's a ballpark budget for this? Will you be making kits or taking on more custom builds? Can a front half be done with a 4wd? Can I join you guys in my Ranger for a rundown? My Ranger is a V8 4x4 coilover conversion with the 64" chevy Leaf in the rear. I know I've got a lot less truck than you guys. I can be the support vehicle and second camera crew😊
It depends on parts honestly. If youre taking a truck to this extent and having someone else build it for you, you can expect to be in the 85-150k range. Again, the range is widely based on what parts are being used
We will have more off-the-shelf products for customers in the future! There are a lot of TTB front suspension solutions that still retain 4wd. Andrew Cho's TTB kit is pretty popular 4wd solution that is used on a variety of vehicles. A lot of trophy trucks are running 4WD Center Mounted A-Arms that utilize a portal in the knuckles as well, but this is very pricey. If you ever see us in the desert, come say hello!
As mentioned in some of the videos, the truck will get a v8 down the line! That is a large financial investment though and is not in the scope of this project at the moment.
I’ve been working on this truck 5 days a week since the start of January! Missing maybe 2 weeks of work total since then. I just work at a steady pace, If you try and rush through this stuff the end product doesn’t end up as nice and corners end up being cut! Custom stuff takes a lot of time
@@ChristianEwingVD i recently got into metal fabrication after 15 years in construction. Trying to get this business figured out. Im finding that alot of people think that just because i work out of my garage that my prices should be dirt cheap. But like you said custom work takes time and time costs money 💰
@@sebastianmuglia7451 Its a struggle starting out, quality work speaks for itself though. The place the work being done in doesnt determine the price. Starting out you have to pay your dues and do stuff for a cheaper price to get your name out there and then slowly start bringing it up with the exposure and experience/knowledge being gained. People are paying for the Labor, experience, and knowledge all wrapped up into that "shop rate"
Great question! Steel is a better solution for stiffness/strength, which is very important for tie rods to prevent deflection (bump steer). This would also require a machining process, making manufacturing more intensive. This would be a fun solution to look into to see what tube OD/ID would be necessary to match steel tie rod attributes and what the mass would end up at. Unfortunately, with how tight clearances are on the steering systems (less than 0.25" in a lot of places), there isn't much room to bump of the OD of the tubing, so an aluminum tie rod may not solve.
To be honest I don’t know enough about aluminum to know what would be a sufficient replacement that isn’t sacrificing strength or longevity. Again too like I mentioned in the video, I don’t have a big lathe to machine the threaded portions on the ends for heims to thread into. I’m not opposed to it in the future though if I have the tooling and knowledge to do it!
@@WingsWorldChannel the typical od for offroading is 2” and solid not tube. You would be surprised that deflection isn’t an issue but the larger diameter I suppose could be. It’s not out of the ordinary to flex 4” + from bashing on a rock and not bend. One property that no types of steel alloy even come close to. This is the main reason you never see any serious rock crawlers with steel tie rods they ALWAYS bend no matter how big they are.
Does having the extreme angle of the center mounted radius arms cause camber issues when in reverse due to leverage from the beams wanting to push inwards? Will there be lots of negative camber in reverse?
Next time start with an extra cab and have way more room to work with . I'm not a giant but in my ranger my seat is back to the point where it wouldn't even fit in a regular cab , by about 6 inch's .
Kept the single cab since that is what Ryan already had! With the C pillar outside, it won't be as tight. The main advantage of going to the extra cab would be wheel base.
I'm super surprised that I made it get to 925 "likes". You guys should be getting far more traffic and likes. There should be a ton of "Play Buttons" hanging on the walls.
Hey Christian, What do you consider too long for a 1 piece drive shaft? I am swapping from a c6 trans in my 4 door explorer to a th400 and with the overall length being shorter my driveshaft will have to be longer.
I would contact your local driveshaft guy about that, there is some factors that play into what “too long” is! My rule of thumb with off-road trucks is to get the pivoting point of the main shaft inline with the rear suspension geometry, so if it’s a longer wheelbase truck that typically leads to a 2 peice shaft, shorter wheelbase trucks like this end up with a 1 peice because the trans is in an optimal location already
@@sam_s_life happens. We are doing what we can, when we can. Jake now lives 9 hours away from me so filming videos is now a planned out ordeal of him flying down here on a weekend instead of just walking outside and filming something real quick. We enjoy filming these and bringing people along for the ride with us and appreciate all the support!
I kinda wonder if u do a long arm u could do hydrolic individual on the arm so thers absolutely no toe at all from full drupe to compression so no mater if the suspension travel is like 3 foot travel 😂 idk 😂
That would be difficult considering the high response times needed for steering and the large amount of validation that would be required for us to be comfortable using on customer vehicles. Price would also be very high for a system like this. Swingset steering is currently the most reliable and cost effective steering solution for Ibeam suspension!
Hey Guys I live in San Diego too, just bought a 1995 Ford f150 super crew, 5.0. I want to install a long travel suspension system in it. How can I contact you guys?
video's audio needs work one comes through right channel and the other feller comes through left channel... distracting for sure. but just an insight great video
Center mount is the best front suspension solution but is a much larger undertaking! At that point, there wouldn't be any frame rail left and the engine would be mostly inside the cab. Design/Fabrication time investment is much larger, leading to a higher price point as well. The beam kit will work great on this truck and is much more affordable. There is also something special about keeping beams on these trucks! In the future, we will build a center mounted truck.
As Christian said, this is a common theme for these builds! A lot of unplanned upgrades happen once you are already working and in the middle of the build.
These videos would be a lot more entertaining if you filmed the work you did instead of explaining it all after the fact. We understand sometimes it's trial and error, but speaking for myself and hopefully some others, I wouldn't mind watching the trial and error process.
Time management is the main reason we dont film those kinds of videos anymore, when I was working on our personal vehicles its easier to justify but when im working on a customer vehicle i cannot bill out the time properly when it takes 3x as long to try and film something while im doing it. Custom fab takes long enough as it is, my main goal is to get vehicles in and out as quick as reasonably possible to keep everyone happy. Thats why these update videos are what we are rolling with now
Completely understand where you are coming from! As Christian mentioned, this is difficult considering that he is on the clock when working on these trucks, so it makes it difficult to film at the same time. I also moved away for work and fly home to film these videos, so I don't have the opportunity to film while Christian is working at this time.
Its going to scrap haha, I cut the center of it off already if you saw it in this video and after we filmed this I cut the rest of it off with the front section of the frame horns attached to it
Putting the money back in my bank account and saving it until I have atleast 2-3x more! Offroad vehicles add up very quicky when you are trying to build them correctly
Wheels/tires, taller coil spring, and nice replacement shocks for front/rear. Would spend money detailing the truck to make it look good as well! As Christian stated though, costs add up very quickly once you start going into more developed suspension solutions.
My favorite UA-cam channel finally gives us an awesome long awaited update 🤙🏼 I always look forward to these videos & appreciate how humble & down to earth you guys are. Please don’t ever change.
Thank you for the kind comment! We are working our best to keep progressing while staying level headed.
BEAUTIFUL WORK! The plate gusset at the corners of the fuel cell structure needs three holes!
Nice built guys i Been learnig aloot with you guys thanks for the nice work you guys have done on this ranger...
Happy to hear it! Thanks for following along with us
Thank you for the comment! We are very happy that this information is helpful for everyone and gives us the motivation to put out more content
This is the nicest and smartest fab work I have ever seen.
That is all Christian! He is doing a very good job on all the fabrication for this truck
I don’t often compliment people, even if they do good work but you guys are gifted. This truck is insane
Appreciate the support! Thanks for following along
Thank you for the kind words!
Those welds look amazing. Things going to be a ripper when it’s done👍🏻
Appreciate the support dude! Thanks for following along
Awesome work guys and Love the shirt too haha!
Awesome content
Great build series
Love all the hard work
Love the work in progress! Wish I could have you do my Silverado !
Top notch work! Your business and channel need to blow up
Appreciate the support!
Thank you! We are keeping the dream alive and don't have plans to stop!
Its so fun and unique seeing everything that goes into a build like this, but from 2 brothers in their own garage doing all the work themselves! Keep up the great work guys, super entertaining and informative stuff!
Thank you for the support and following along!
Thank you Jamie!
Can you guys talk about everything possible when it comes to mounting the front shocks and bump stops. How to bump them out properly, shock mount material thickness/ material, how to set shock angle, etc
We will dive into this in the next one!
Great work, as always. Keep up the updates.
Will do, glad you are enjoying them!
I’m building a 93 Ranger 4x4 and I’ve learned a lot from your videos. I can’t wait to see this truck done
That is awesome to hear! Hopefully some of this information translates to your build
Such clean work. Makes me miss my last ranger.
Also great idea on the trans slip. I’ve done it on a few trucks and it works great!! Don’t forget to put silicone on the bolt into the tail shaft otherwise it’ll drip oil all over your new driveway. ask me how I know 🤦🏻♂️
Awesome work again guys. If possible, can we get an update once the engine cage and trans tunnel tubes are installed.
Just to have a look at the tube work before you box it in with firewall, floorpan etc. Just a thought. 👌👌
That’s the plan!
Bad ass and super detailed video on a nicely set up front end!! Keep doin what you do guys
Thank you! We don't have any plans on stopping
Always killing it my man!!🤘🏻
I’ve been waiting for this episode looks good.
For ream
Real*
Following every step. This is quite impressive
Thank you, we are happy to share the process!
Art work
Awesome video but I think you both need mics because the audio is a little tough. Great content keep up the amazing work.
Had another comment regarding this as well, will work on a solution for the next video!
Straight heat 🥵🔥
Thanks dude!
Hope he paints it that stock colour 🙏🏼
It’s staying Cayman blue!
Nice job guys!
Guessing it was hindsight. Any reasons you didn't convert to an extended cab, seems wheelbase and cab room would be good? truck was cut in half anyways. Not bashing just curious if that came up during the build process. Great looking bad azz truck! ext or standard cab.👍
Large reason is because this is a truck that Ryan already owned! Some of the earlier videos on the channel were of the front end being built, the cage and back half are naturally a succession to that.
This series is amazing,
Beautiful work as always. As far as 3D scanning goes I'm excited to see it on future builds! I'm not sure if you're going all in on an expensive scanner or not, but in my opinion it isn't necessary (may make sense for your use case though if you're doing it all the time and selling parts). You can also get high quality scans through photogrammetry. I plan on making a video on this soon, but basically you can get great scans using just your phone plus either meshroom or something like 3DF zephyr, to turn the pictures into 3D models.
Meshroom is free and open source, but has a bit of a learning curve if the automatic settings aren't working for you. 3D zephyr costs about $200 for the non-trial version but computes very quickly and is much more "push play and go". Both take in 2D pictures and output colored, textured, .obj files.
Thank you for the comment regarding this! I have been looking into some of the entry level scanners that aren't too pricey. Speaking to a few people that have the scanners I am interested in, the results are really promising for the price point. We will definitely talk about it in a video once we acquire a scanner.
Looking Great...Im thinking an LS would be a lil more exciting tho....sorry thinking out loud.
That’s the plan at some point in the future! For now it’s staying simple with factory engine/trans package. We are talking EASILY another 20+ thousand dollars to put a v8 in this truck between everything involved ontop of what this truck is already costing
I have a question regarding “over lays” when fabricating plate Work. Besides the awesome look of them, how are they better or stronger than just upsizing the wall thickness of the plate to begin with? Great info, keep up the strong work…👌
Thats a good question! The main reason for overlays, in my opinion, is to support the bolt hole locations or a load path areas. If you run one thick plate for everything youre adding extra weight thats not really necessary. With overlays you can support what you need to and then cut out the "fat" in the rest of the areas. You can also get some nice design out of them as well which is an added bonus
@@ChristianEwingVD thanks for the info
You said you wouldn't use factory frame on the next truck. Would you use rectangle tubing or round tube for the main rails? I'm getting ready to build a willys pickup with a similar suspension setup.
Depends on the intended use of the vehicle. For a prerunner, creating our own rectangular tube frame would likely be the best solution for production time/simplicity/cost.
Main structure would be boxed/welded plate work, with tubing lacing everything together!
Where do you guys get the parts to build the knuckles? Also is there a good place to find some used parts like coilovers and bypass shocks?
@@mikebougher3731the knuckles on this truck are made by camburg racing. Race Dezert classifieds are a good place to look for used/new stuff for sale
Sickkkkkk with ittttt❤❤
You know i always like mane. My question is when you letting me buy yall some shoes sheeeeeit
Did you not see Christian's brand new shoes in this one!?
@@WingsWorldChannel i peeped but still let me hook my brothas up
Bad Ass!!
What's a ballpark budget for this? Will you be making kits or taking on more custom builds? Can a front half be done with a 4wd? Can I join you guys in my Ranger for a rundown? My Ranger is a V8 4x4 coilover conversion with the 64" chevy Leaf in the rear. I know I've got a lot less truck than you guys. I can be the support vehicle and second camera crew😊
It depends on parts honestly. If youre taking a truck to this extent and having someone else build it for you, you can expect to be in the 85-150k range. Again, the range is widely based on what parts are being used
We will have more off-the-shelf products for customers in the future! There are a lot of TTB front suspension solutions that still retain 4wd. Andrew Cho's TTB kit is pretty popular 4wd solution that is used on a variety of vehicles. A lot of trophy trucks are running 4WD Center Mounted A-Arms that utilize a portal in the knuckles as well, but this is very pricey. If you ever see us in the desert, come say hello!
@@WingsWorldChannel Thank you for the info. I'll check it out. Yeah, I hope to meet you both in person someday.
What welder do you guys use? I’ve always wanted to learn welding and your guys’ videos have inspired me even more so.
I have a Miller 215 that I use soley for mig welding and then an Everlast 185 that I’m using for tig
Looks great!
It would be a good time to go ahead and put a V8 in it.....
As mentioned in some of the videos, the truck will get a v8 down the line! That is a large financial investment though and is not in the scope of this project at the moment.
How many hours do you have in this build up to this point? Also when you're working are you in a hurry hurry mode or a nice steady pace ?
I’ve been working on this truck 5 days a week since the start of January! Missing maybe 2 weeks of work total since then. I just work at a steady pace, If you try and rush through this stuff the end product doesn’t end up as nice and corners end up being cut! Custom stuff takes a lot of time
@@ChristianEwingVD awesome thanks for the reply
@@ChristianEwingVD i recently got into metal fabrication after 15 years in construction. Trying to get this business figured out. Im finding that alot of people think that just because i work out of my garage that my prices should be dirt cheap. But like you said custom work takes time and time costs money 💰
@@sebastianmuglia7451 Its a struggle starting out, quality work speaks for itself though. The place the work being done in doesnt determine the price. Starting out you have to pay your dues and do stuff for a cheaper price to get your name out there and then slowly start bringing it up with the exposure and experience/knowledge being gained. People are paying for the Labor, experience, and knowledge all wrapped up into that "shop rate"
Why not use 7075 T6 aluminum instead of chromoly tubing for the tie rods? It is known to be quite a bit more durable than any type of steel alloys.
Great question! Steel is a better solution for stiffness/strength, which is very important for tie rods to prevent deflection (bump steer). This would also require a machining process, making manufacturing more intensive. This would be a fun solution to look into to see what tube OD/ID would be necessary to match steel tie rod attributes and what the mass would end up at. Unfortunately, with how tight clearances are on the steering systems (less than 0.25" in a lot of places), there isn't much room to bump of the OD of the tubing, so an aluminum tie rod may not solve.
To be honest I don’t know enough about aluminum to know what would be a sufficient replacement that isn’t sacrificing strength or longevity. Again too like I mentioned in the video, I don’t have a big lathe to machine the threaded portions on the ends for heims to thread into. I’m not opposed to it in the future though if I have the tooling and knowledge to do it!
@@WingsWorldChannel the typical od for offroading is 2” and solid not tube. You would be surprised that deflection isn’t an issue but the larger diameter I suppose could be. It’s not out of the ordinary to flex 4” + from bashing on a rock and not bend. One property that no types of steel alloy even come close to. This is the main reason you never see any serious rock crawlers with steel tie rods they ALWAYS bend no matter how big they are.
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Does having the extreme angle of the center mounted radius arms cause camber issues when in reverse due to leverage from the beams wanting to push inwards? Will there be lots of negative camber in reverse?
Next time start with an extra cab and have way more room to work with . I'm not a giant but in my ranger my seat is back to the point where it wouldn't even fit in a regular cab , by about 6 inch's .
Kept the single cab since that is what Ryan already had! With the C pillar outside, it won't be as tight. The main advantage of going to the extra cab would be wheel base.
I'm super surprised that I made it get to 925 "likes". You guys should be getting far more traffic and likes. There should be a ton of "Play Buttons" hanging on the walls.
When my Ranger is going to look like that! 🥺😭
What the price tag on those badass BFG’s?
Hey Christian, What do you consider too long for a 1 piece drive shaft? I am swapping from a c6 trans in my 4 door explorer to a th400 and with the overall length being shorter my driveshaft will have to be longer.
I would contact your local driveshaft guy about that, there is some factors that play into what “too long” is! My rule of thumb with off-road trucks is to get the pivoting point of the main shaft inline with the rear suspension geometry, so if it’s a longer wheelbase truck that typically leads to a 2 peice shaft, shorter wheelbase trucks like this end up with a 1 peice because the trans is in an optimal location already
You guys need to post more it’s been too long
Remember when they disappeared for at least a year?
@@sam_s_life happens. We are doing what we can, when we can. Jake now lives 9 hours away from me so filming videos is now a planned out ordeal of him flying down here on a weekend instead of just walking outside and filming something real quick. We enjoy filming these and bringing people along for the ride with us and appreciate all the support!
@@ChristianEwingVD strap a gopro on your dogs back and make him a welding hood
Lakai braahh
Blast from the past!
@@WingsWorldChannel Brings me back to high school 2001-2002. Fuck I'm getting old!
I kinda wonder if u do a long arm u could do hydrolic individual on the arm so thers absolutely no toe at all from full drupe to compression so no mater if the suspension travel is like 3 foot travel 😂 idk 😂
That would be difficult considering the high response times needed for steering and the large amount of validation that would be required for us to be comfortable using on customer vehicles. Price would also be very high for a system like this. Swingset steering is currently the most reliable and cost effective steering solution for Ibeam suspension!
Hey Guys I live in San Diego too, just bought a 1995 Ford f150 super crew, 5.0. I want to install a long travel suspension system in it. How can I contact you guys?
If anything shears on this truck, I'm gonna have some questions.
video's audio needs work one comes through right channel and the other feller comes through left channel... distracting for sure. but just an insight great video
What scanner are you buying?
Haven't made the final decision yet, but have heard good things about the Einstar scanners for the price point.
Why not center mount
What do you meaaaan? It is center mount…….ed radius arms!
Center mount is the best front suspension solution but is a much larger undertaking! At that point, there wouldn't be any frame rail left and the engine would be mostly inside the cab. Design/Fabrication time investment is much larger, leading to a higher price point as well. The beam kit will work great on this truck and is much more affordable. There is also something special about keeping beams on these trucks! In the future, we will build a center mounted truck.
How much does a truck like this cost $$$????
looks sick as fuck, but this thing kept snowballing lol
As they always do!
As Christian said, this is a common theme for these builds! A lot of unplanned upgrades happen once you are already working and in the middle of the build.
You still need 2 mics, or equalise your voice levels. If you're lazy just click the compressor button in the video editor
Fair point on the audio, I will look into some solutions for the next video!
These videos would be a lot more entertaining if you filmed the work you did instead of explaining it all after the fact. We understand sometimes it's trial and error, but speaking for myself and hopefully some others, I wouldn't mind watching the trial and error process.
Time management is the main reason we dont film those kinds of videos anymore, when I was working on our personal vehicles its easier to justify but when im working on a customer vehicle i cannot bill out the time properly when it takes 3x as long to try and film something while im doing it. Custom fab takes long enough as it is, my main goal is to get vehicles in and out as quick as reasonably possible to keep everyone happy. Thats why these update videos are what we are rolling with now
Completely understand where you are coming from! As Christian mentioned, this is difficult considering that he is on the clock when working on these trucks, so it makes it difficult to film at the same time. I also moved away for work and fly home to film these videos, so I don't have the opportunity to film while Christian is working at this time.
If you cut that front bumper off I’ll happily take it off your hands.
Its going to scrap haha, I cut the center of it off already if you saw it in this video and after we filmed this I cut the rest of it off with the front section of the frame horns attached to it
89 bronco $5k what are you doin?
Putting the money back in my bank account and saving it until I have atleast 2-3x more! Offroad vehicles add up very quicky when you are trying to build them correctly
@@ChristianEwingVD but that’s no fun 🤣
@@Korbin21 It is not haha but thats just the reality of these things! You'd be hard pressed to even buy proper wheels and tires for $5k
Wheels/tires, taller coil spring, and nice replacement shocks for front/rear. Would spend money detailing the truck to make it look good as well! As Christian stated though, costs add up very quickly once you start going into more developed suspension solutions.