Performance, Plague, and Politics in Shakespeare's London
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Help us make the first feature film ever made (that we know of) spoken entirely in Original Pronunciation, the accent of Shakespeare: igg.me/at/sudb... Did William Shakespeare write King Lear under quarantine? That is the question. In this video I introduce you to the actor's process in Elizabethan theater; dive deep into first-hand accounts of the bubonic plague epidemics that Shakespeare lived through; explore the politics of late 16th and early 17th century England, onstage and off; and discuss OP, Original Early Modern English Pronunciation, the accent and dialect in which the Bard's plays were originally performed.
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CORRECTION: The Great Vowel Shift was a SEPARATE linguistic trend to the R-dropping in 18th century English. My mistake, sorry!
I wondered about that.
But you still qualify as one of the more erudite UA-camrs. Who also posesses skills like atmospheric use of an electronic fireplace.
Plus if we listen to the Bard in the language as spoken the dialogue is actually better
yup. but still minor mistake in otherwise great commentary.
Why do you use a 'cod' Irish accent for Thomas Dekker? He was a born and bred Londoner with no Irish connection whatsoever. Also who is "William Defoe?" Daniel Defoe wrote a 'Journal of the Plague' and he too was a born and bred English man with no Irish connection. Yet you give him a cod Irish accent? Unless you know a William Defoe who also wrote a journal of the plague and came from 'Bally Go Backwards' 'County Bog?'
I came to the comments to say this!
This man doesn't have to go this hard but he do
If there is ANY UA-camr that deserves to be wealthy, and have access to all the funding he needs to make great little films, and educational spots. It is this man.
He goes so hard FOR US.
God dammit, the pandemic fucked up my, and my wife’s finances, and I wish I had the disposable income I once did to help him fund the movie.
Tax return, and stimulus, he’s getting a chunk.
No matter what.
It is, in fact, how the Atun-Shei do.
*with apologies to Zefrank*
And he did this…. For us
As hard as the Bard.
es.
You playing a peasant heckler was the BEST part! i love the idea that english football energy but directed towards Shakespeare
Hope the English groundling somehow becomes a recurring character. As a frequent commentor on this website, he really resonated with me on an emotional level.
I agree. He's perfect
I hope so lol
Oi make ahp your moind ya danish cahnt
Hands down best channel on UA-cam. Never stop.
Thank you!!
I'd personally qualify that request by adding to the end "unless continuing means killing your passion for what you do."
@@Jrez That should be colloquially considered an unconditional rule mate
Holy shit! I performed that monologue in a theater class once, and I had no idea I was butchering a 4 century-old knob-gag!
"its a really rude sex joke"
Isnt shakespear just a series of rude sex jokes cobbled together and called a series of plays?
"Did you think I meant country manners?"
No. It's the same sex joke 4 times each so the idiots babbling on can hear the joke in between their shouts.
"Villain, I have done your mother"
My wife's favorite part of teaching Romeo and Juliet was using the Globe Theater production of it, where they went a bit more "obvious" with some of the jokes, seeing just how far she could explain before getting the side eye from parents.
A fair amount of it yeah. I wish that facet was more empathazied than his insults. Growing up in Stratford, I can't tell you how tiresome I find the Shakespeare's insults books/magnets/band aids/juice boxes...
"These References to Covid are to age like cheese"
Almost July and still relevant
Probably will be for a few years.
Almost October and still relevant.
Xmas in a week, still relevant as hell and more and more so
Now 2021 and still relevant
Only part that has become a little dated is the toilet paper joke.
3:48
George Lucas 2003:
“Well here we are, an official first draft. Of course there’s a lot of cheating in there, there’s a lot of, ‘they fight’”
(Awkward laughter)
And yet it turned out great
@@LordVader1094 great is an exagerration. It was okay.
@@LordVader1094 doubt
Help us make The Sudbury Devil, which will be the first feature film ever made (that we know of) spoken entirely in Original Pronunciation, the accent of Shakespeare: igg.me/at/sudburydevil/x/15029872#/
Stay home, stay safe, and WASH YOUR HANDS!
So I just realized I made an error in my reading of Alas, Poor Yorick in OP, which isn’t a huge deal I guess, but I’m a weird obsessive perfectionist so it’s driving me crazy. When I was reacquainting myself with the monologue in preparation to film this video, I foolishly checked the text on the MIT Shakespeare site instead of referring to my trusty old Folger copy of Hamlet. This was a grave mistake.
The MIT site has the line “my gorge rims at it,” as in, my throat is filled to the metaphorical rim with puke. When I read that I thought, “Hmm, that’s weird, I seem to remember it being ‘my gorge rises at it’ but whatever. MIT is a reputable source, they probably know something I don’t.” How hopelessly naive I was then!
Well, I did a little digging and it turns out that “rims” is a typo from the early days of the internet that’s been copied and pasted to all sorts of online transcriptions of the play. The Folios say “rises.”
O happy dagger, this is thy sheath! There rust, and let me die of embarrassment!
Is there an option that the shooting and the release of the film might be delayed because of covid-19 ?
@@wp9746 TBD - I'll keep y'all posted
Shakespeare: _Henry VIII_
Cannonball: *I'm going to end this man's whole career.*
I doubt that cannon had balls. I've seen turfs and bundles of straw shot from cannons to give the powder enough compression to ignite properly without launching an iron projectile into the crowd. Maybe they shot a bundle of straw and it caught fire and set fire to something else.
@@Sableagle : So what you're saying is, the cannon didn't have the balls to take on Shakespeare? 😁
Of balls it was barren, but possessed voluminous shot nonetheless
if you see footage or photos of battlefields in comparatively modern times you see smoke trails - they are where artillery are located and the cordite has ignited the grass/wheat/whatever .. the shot blast could ignite surrounding vegetation, knock tiles off roof, blow in windows etc .. you don't need an actual shell or ball to cause damage.
The real irony for me is noticing that this video (which mentions that Shakespeare’s early career thrived in spite of the plague) has comments from people exclaiming at how you only have 4k subscribers...and now, only a month later, that number has jumped all the way to 33k. 👌
And now, a month after your comment, almost 80k! How about that!
Damn yo, up to 112k
120 now, so 8k in a week. It will still take years to get the amount he deserves. He is the Steve Mould of history.
Nearly 150k now!
209k
I'm sorry I only caught this the second time viewing. There were historical figures named Willem Defoe, Ben Johnson and John Marston? Two famous actors and a video game protagonist??? What.
a month too late, but that should be Daniel Defoe. Johnson and Marston are both contemporaries of Shakespeare though
@@kyzrvlhlm1995 Two outta three then.
Shakespeare's wife was Anne Hathaway. And there is supposedly a pun in hist sonnets ("Hate from hate away")
Wow who knew that hollywood has real immortals I thought that hollywood vampiers was just a joke but.
Anglo names be that way.
Didn't know John marston was a playwright, I always thought he rode with the Dutch Van Der Linde gang.
Where do you think Jack got his love of literature from?
Little did we know that the so called life as a playwright was all part of Dutch’s plan
Ben Johnson was genuinely a violent and dangerous man who fought in duels, killed people and spent a lot of time in prison. He'd have given the fictional John Marston a serious run for his money.
I thought he was a brewer of beer.
Chris Ball I highly doubt that Ben Johnson could outgun Red Dead John Marston. That man killed entire armies(source: I beat Red Dead Redemption 1 again the other night).
You have a gift for painting historical pictures with your dialogue. Favorite channel hands down!
"Who knows not where a wasp does wear his sting? In his tail?"
"In his tongue."
"Who's tongue?"
"Yours if you talk of such tales, so farewell.:
"What With my tongue in your tail?"
Ah, yes, high culture
'Oh, harder, Daddy!'
'Son?'
From Medrano's The Most Excellent Comedy of the Hazbin Hotel
@@ZephLodwick Villain! Thou hast undone our mother!
Villain, I have *done* thy mother
Farewell rhymes with tale in OP
I came for the Civil War videos, and I'll stay for the OP. Kid you not, classical singer and ever since I saw the Crystals' original OP video, my pet project has been performing works of the era in OP. A great, nerdy touch.
Do you have any guide for speaking in OP? I really want to learn this accent to increase my pool of accents I use to voice NPCs in the DND game I DM.
Man, I am British and your well-spoken English RP accent is impeccable. 10/10. Keep it up.
Okay, and your West-Countryesque Shakespearean original pronounciation was even better. Subscribed.
Me and the boys going to speak original pronunciation.
By now the Cannibal is such a staple of this channel that he only needs to grin in that peculiar way from under the hood and all of us understand the implications. Kind of like phylosophie tubes Arsonist.
Present tense: William Shakespeare
Past tense: Wouldiwas Shookspeared
if Shakespeare got butts in seats but took his craft seriously, then he was more of a James Cameron than a JJ Abrams XD
I'd make it more Michael Bay - given the average age of a medieval peasant, the humor involved, and the combination of fights and vulgar talk.
"I make movies for teenage boys. Oh, dear, what a crime."
-Michael Bay
“ Go back to Denmark, you Danish Knut!’ I got it, still laughing.
But isn't Knut pronounced K-noot?
@@alfiejob6546 more like double uu. It isnt the u in nut for sure.
@@swadow1497 I meant it to be a long "U" sound but I didn't know how to write it, so I wrote the soft "oo" instead.
@@alfiejob6546 ahh okay
@@swadow1497 @Alfie Job I totally heard that word twice as a naughty anagram of Cnut (know what I mean?)
Came for the Shakespeare, stayed for the petty squabbles of playwrights in the 17th century. I also learned here first that Chaucer had Richard II's patronage. Either I didn't pay attention to my classes or you're just awesome at teaching.
"These Covid references are sure to age like cheese."
One year later...
When I was a baby in Colorado in the mid 1990s I came within literal inches of catching the Black Plague. My mom heard my voice exclaiming from the entry way "Bunny! Bunny!"
She found me sitting in front of a dead mouse, pointing at it and grinning. "Bunny! Bunny!"
Hahaha, oh my God, I love that
If I recall right, we had an outbreak of a few cases in Broomfield, CO a few years ago
I caught rabies by something like that when I was 3 or 4. There was a dead bat that tested positive for rabies on the playground. I ended up petting it, and I told my mom I pet the bird on the playground.
@@xekron61 Wait what
Did you hear about the squirrel they found with the bubonic plague?
Last time I checked John Marston was a bandit that ran with Dutch, Hosea, Arthur Morgan
Last time I checked John Marston was six feet under
"Day 8 of quarantine"
Oh to be young again.
3:42 how did you resist the urge to cite “exit pursued by a bear”
Let's Boo-Boo.
I remember in your Ravenous video you talking about how lovely it is to find something that hits so many of your niche interests that it feels as though it was made for you. So this video feels like for me. Thank you for making my quarantine a little better. :)
I still love to point out to people that, thanks to Midsummer Night's Dream, Shakespeare predated Mystery Science Theater 3000 by about 400 years!👨🏫🧚♂️
There is so much garbage on UA-cam, but it's channels such as these that restore my faith in mankind. I'm not particularly familiar with Shakespeare's work, but this man has led me to give his plays a chance.
At the moment, I'm fully emerged in the world of 16th/17th century England.
Bless you, Andy.
OK speaking as a person who LOVES Henry V, thank you for using it at the beginning. I feel like that intro does not get as much love as it deserves.
Fantastic as ever. Just a quick and very tiny point though.....it's not Lord Chamberlain but The Lord Chamberlain; not a hereditary peer but a job in the royal household. Think Groom of the Stool but way more senior. In fact it was, and still is, the most senior position in the household. The Lord Chamberlain who was patron of Shakespeare's company was Henry Carey (coincidentally Anne Boleyn's nephew).
That's a union jacket with some sort of doilee vest on it you can't fool us.
ahahah i loved the groundling scene, when i was in college we watched king lear at the reconstructed globe in london and we were standing. it was a great experience but jeezzz my legs hurt. king lear is not short
I know this is different, but what I loved the most in The Lighthouse was listening to the dialogue. The dialogue alone transported you to that time, and even if I couldn't understand all of it on 1st view I fully enloyed it.
So yeah, I'd be down for a full film in OP.
@ 18:25
I'm guessing they did the 16th century equivalent of saying "Gingers have no soul!!!"?
@ 20:53
So he would not have approved of Italian actors :P
In my childhood, the Lord Chamberlain was the guy who decided what could be done on stage (burlesque to classic theatre), I'd always presumed that Shakespeare's patron held the same office, but apparently not (after 5 seconds of blurred google results, it seems that the guy in the 60s was empowered by an act of 1737 - mind blown!)
4:55 so you're telling me that the way Curly Bill and the rest of cowboys were acting during Faust in Tombstone was a historically accurate theater going experience for the time. Damn, the thing is you learn.
I love that Andy is my kind of historian - he has multiple eras and places that he’s passionate about.
This is one of the two best exposition of the life and times of William Shakespeare I have come across. And this from a Shakespeare fanatic who watched no less than twelve Shakespeare plays... in his home town of Stratford-Upon-Avon..... before I was even 20. Well done Atun-Shei!
My cats had the plague when I was a kid. They're in a book about cats in New Mexico with the plague. I snuggled them real close
As long as you got rid of their fleas first …
I have been a groundling at a Shakespeare play, my feet were killing me!
8:55 and that won't be for very long.
As our use of Antibiotics increases, viral immunity to Antibiotics does too. To the point where they are rendered useless.
Unless we fully commit to obliterating a disease, it will grow stronger after every defeat. Each time the margin of survival narrowing.
How have you only got 4k subscribers?! Boggles the mind! This is quality content mate. I genuinely think you'll skyrocket very soon, not that I think that's you're overall aim or that's the only barometer of success, but damn!
It's nice to see this a month later when he's near 40k - someone else can reply in a year when he's at 100k.
KaceyRepublic don’t need to
today sub count is 131k.
Today's count 250k. He's moving up in life.
Legit original pronunciation is just Devon people.
Shakespeare didn't just lose its fun and lewdness from changes in the language. It was actively censored out by 19th century moral crusaders through the spreading of works like The Family Shakespeare.
I am becoming seriously addicted to your crazy videos brah. Keep it up.
I just stumbled upon this, the quality of this video is ridiculously high for your current sub count, I'll definitely be subscribing, keep up the good work
This is so much effort for less than a thousand likes. Someone get this man a bigger fanbase!
17:30 JOHN MARSTON?????? bro travelled back in time
I like how you thought the covid references wouldn't age well, but it's two years later and I'm about to take a covid test before work.
It's a rotten shame that this video doesn't even have 100.000 views. I think I'll keep using it in my English classes (year 11 in Germany) for decades to come.
Dutch has this same thing where West-Vlaams or Western Flemish is seen as the most difficult dialect, but that may be because it is closest to Middle Dutch!
(And also, most mediaeval (famous) Dutch documents we still have are actually in the dialect of Western Flanders.)
I need more content in Middle Dutch AND in West Flemish! lol
It’s a crime these videos don’t get more views.,. I see your vision, top notch man. Just keep doing your thing, people do appreciate you.
"As soon as the death toll reached 80, orders went into effect to manage the disease and limit its economic fallout. A special tax was instituted for the relief of the urban poor who could no longer work. Physicians were sent to every parish."
It makes my so sad that my country's response looked a hell of a lot worse.
The 'Upstart Crow" is Edward Allyn, the actor, not Shakespeare. It is shoddy scholarship by Shakespeare biographers grasping at any straw that converted it to a Shakespeare reference.
You can still go to the (rebuilt) globe theatre and see performances, with groundling tickets costing £5. I went to see The Merchant of Venice, and Gratiano threw up over the side of the stage directly into someone's handbag.
"Exeunt, pursued by a bear" Probably my favorite.
That one guard coming in to announce the plague, actually sounded and looked like the start of a play.
4:50 so basically, the WKUK abraham lincoln sketch, except every single audience member is abraham lincoln?
As a theater major, I watched the John Barton/RSC series and he went over the OP and I found it fascinating. Thank you for this.
Oh my goodness that joke really does work so much better in OP. I did not laugh until he told it in that accent. I wasn't even expecting to, but I did!
Watching Atun-Shei do Shakespeare in OP after watching a lot of the VVithfinder General is very weird. It's like seeing a production of Hamlet by the puritans of the Colony of Maffachufettf
Saucy boy?
You Egg
I thought this video would be boring because it was about theater but omg this is a masterpiece
YOU HAVE ALL THE TOILET PAPER! DAMN YOU!
Seriously, great video. Bingewatching your stuff.
11:19 Luckily, we've outgrown that as a society. Right?
Interesting plague facts: 1) San Francisco had an outbreak from 1900-1904. Sad how many parallels between the response to that outbreak and the Covid outbreak. 2) Anti-biotic resistant strains of the bubonic plague have been discovered in the last few years.
Shakespeare is one of the few things that makes me sad for English not being my mother tongue. Also, someone should do more research on the linguistical differences of golden age spanish theater
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Love your accents, they’re really on point.
Cant get enough of these videos. From ‘ore to ‘ore, I watch and watch!
😂😂😂😂 that peasant had me in bits
Original Pronunciation ASMR {You are Yorrick}
Attending a Shakespeare performance sounds like an old timey screening of The Room with all the heckling and whatnot
SPOOOOOOONS
Could someone with a better ear than myself please explain what exactly the double meaning of that "rude sex joke" example is and why it should be considered funny? All I heard was a clumsy "hour/whore" pun, so there must be some brilliance I'm missing.
It wasn't particularly witty or poetic, just a crude sex joke. "From 'our to 'our we rot and rot" is a reference to STDs.
That's sort of the point he & Ben Crystal were getting at. Shakespeare's plays were popular entertainment at the time & not every line of dialogue was profound or heavy with meaning. Occasionally it was just a crude joke that probably had the groundlings erupting in laughter.
"Beautified with OUR feathers." Important distinction. I'm a groundling, for the purposes of this performance.
The great vowel shift was between ca 1400 and 1550 or 1600, not in the 18th c
What I found interesting when I had heard the "correct" accent for Shakespeare's plays for the first time, I found the plays easier to understand. With the usual posh faux-Old English accent that is typically adopted for a Shakespearean performance, I found the dialogue hard to follow, but in the true accent, it actually sounds like how a human being would talk, and so would be easier to understand for me.
I'm sorry but if I witnessed a "cheap seater" saying that during hamlet I would happily die laughing. 😂🤣
Reminds me of that PragerU video calling Shakespeare one of the greatest English-language writers of all time and whining about his works being taken off syllabi in English/literature programs. Now I know that he basically made blockbuster action/drama/rom-com movies but in medieval London play form
25:39
You confused the Great Vowel Shift (which happened in the middle ages) with not pronouncing "R's", a totally different phenomenon (the great vowel shift was a shift in vowels, not rs)
Oh fuck yea as the only theatre kid in a troupe of about 500 I was probably the only one who genuinely loved doing Shakespeare. You bet my ass worshipped at the altar of David Crystal and Cult of OP. OP DON'T NERF
That not so vital exposition about wars between Poland and Norway sets up Fortinbras' story. The alert hearer will notice that Hamlet is a story of three sons given instructions by their fathers. Fortinbras (strong arm) is told to keep the peace with Denmark. He instead sends his troops across Denmark with the stated goal of capturing land in Poland which his soldiers deem to be worthless. This move allows him to take Denmark which he knew to be in crisis. He did not need to recover lands lost by his father by "strong arm" as Horatio says because he used his brains.
Horatio also serves as a reliable witness, but witness to what? A real ghost? An agent provocateur sent by Fortinbras?
Your videos have a mid 1990s pbs documentary film feel. I like it
I swear Shakespeare is totally mistaken a lot of the time in the morden world as being this protentous junk but the reality seems more that it was lowbrow entertianment that appeals to a large audience. In a way, it's not much different to mavel movies which is fricking weird to say.
In Restoration plays, people talked at full volume and even called out to other friends the whole time the play was going on. Except maybe when a woman like Nell Gwyn was in a breeches scene and they could ogle her legs.
"references to COVID will age like cheese"
A YEAR + LATER
Mmm, delicious aged cheddar...
Do you have any guide for speaking in OP? I really want to learn this accent to increase my pool of accents I use to voice NPCs in the DND game I DM.
That cough is not from Covid or the Plague. It's all them full body flavor Maverick cigarettes.
I think ol' Bill & the various theater companies would love YT & other platforms, they'd enjoy Patreon & commercial sponsorship, & we'd look forward to watching, hearing, & commenting on, all the plays.
How does this man only have 43,000 subscribers?Pisses on Netflix.
So basically, as french speaker, I understand as much (as little) of Shakespeares dialogues as a native english speaker.
I don't know what it says about anyone here but I do feel a lot better.
l'etat c'est moi
that's all I got
i thought the great vowel shift was during the 15th century, not r dropping in the 18th century ? i might be wrong but i'm pretty sure
....kinda sounds like a hammered Welshman..... freakin' awesome!
“Day 8” hahaha... ahhhhhhhhh
I never thought i would be onn the floor from a bout of maniacal giggling about a video about that horrid playwright
O for a Muse of fire, that would ascend
The brightest heaven of invention,
A kingdom for a stage, princes to act
And monarchs to behold the swelling scene!
Then should the warlike Harry, like himself,
Assume the port of Mars; and at his heels,
Leash'd in like hounds, should famine, sword and fire
Crouch for employment. But pardon, and gentles all,
The flat unraised spirits that have dared
On this unworthy scaffold to bring forth
So great an object: can this cockpit hold
The vasty fields of France? or may we cram
Within this wooden O the very casques
That did affright the air at Agincourt?
O, pardon! since a crooked figure may
Attest in little place a million;
And let us, ciphers to this great accompt,
On your imaginary forces work.
Suppose within the girdle of these walls
Are now confined two mighty monarchies,
Whose high upreared and abutting fronts
The perilous narrow ocean parts asunder:
Piece out our imperfections with your thoughts;
Into a thousand parts divide on man,
And make imaginary puissance;
Think when we talk of horses, that you see them
Printing their proud hoofs i' the receiving earth;
For 'tis your thoughts that now must deck our kings,
Carry them here and there; jumping o'er times,
Turning the accomplishment of many years
Into an hour-glass: for the which supply,
Admit me Chorus to this history;
Who prologue-like your humble patience pray,
Gently to hear, kindly to judge, our play.
Henry V Prologue
I really commend the accuracy of your middle English accent