Thanks for the warning as I was close to buying the wrong pair. Actually both these headsets offer passive ear protection (noise reduction) and thus they do this similarly with or without batteries. Both might be improved with more inside padding (see another shooter's YT on this) and adjusting how you wear them. The marketing implies that there's magic going on but neither pair is noise cancelling if such a thing exists in this arena. The damage to hearing discussed is exaggerated in that the amplification in these headsets isn't going to hit say, 180dB.
Thanks for the video. Just found a pair at Goodwill lying next to a toaster oven and an old clock radio. Must've been my lucky day, because they actually turned out to be the real McCoy!
Excellent info. Also I'm curious of the embossed headband ,wether it says the sane thing as the true pair. It's also easy to notice that the windscreen on the mic is recessed and the knock off isn't. Great video. Thanks.
You posted this on Amazon too didn't you? I do the same thing. I appreciate the information. Edit: I'm curious since this video is now 5 years old of Chinesium manufacturing now has copied these details. It never ceases to amaze me the lengths Chinese companies will go to knock off products. Especially ones that aren't even that expensive. A $40 pair of ear protection is being knocked off... insane.
Chinesium is Chinese metal. That word only applies to something that's made with Chinese metal. They actually don't go through great lengths to counterfeit stuff. This stuff is coming from the same factory, it just goes out the back door with cheaper materials and different internals. The cheaper products that sell the most are the exact products they want to counterfeit. People that buy really expensive products are going to be more aware of issues with that product. People that buy cheaper products might not notice. Not really Insanity at all. They know exactly what they're doing.
The weird thing is with your Real Pair, is the battery compartment is still Different to mine that i purchased from my military base. The Copper Leaf Springs are smaller in mine, and the sticker is much different. The headband is also glossier on yours and the overall material looks a bit shinier in appearance than mine. The one on the right is yes a dead give away it is fake. The color, the battery tray and sticker. Pretty sure the fake one didn’t come with a manual either. Edit: yes after checking and etc, Amazon are still selling the FAKE ONES, ALBEIT Better Quality FAKES
I have the legit ones but the decibel shutout doesn’t work. Learned the hard way. Also not sure what the jack is for. I plugged in my cell phone for mowing thinking it would shut off the outside sound to listen to music. Nope. I still use them on the range but just have the sound on for listening to instructions and conversation
Brad Swain if they aren't working I'd send them back or at least call the manufacturer. A quick call might get you a new pair for free! The headphone jack was a disappointment for me too. The problem with it is there is only one volume control. When I tried to use them to mow the lawn the lawn mower sound went up when I tried to turn the music up and turning the volume down turns off the music! I was hoping that plugging something in would disable the microphones and let me listen to tunes. :-(
JeeZ My question is obviously, putting one pair on after the other, what difference was there in what your gun sounded like? If you get all wound up, just purchase the much cheaper Caldwell Electronic Muffs. Caldwells all have a red status L.E.D. which lights up when they are on. I have one pair of each, and the Leights are only very marginally better. This recall is only a C.Y.A. move by that company's lawyers. Both Leights and Caldwells can be wore backwards, so you can hear what's going on behind you. There won't be any warranties on the fakes, but I bet you will be stuck for shipping them back. I noted that they aren't offering a genuine pair of Leights, in trade for the knock offs. So its just a lawyers' thing.
Dave Koenig So comparing them the fakes seem half as effective (subjective of course). My real concern is the electronics being substandard and cutting off at too high a volume or worse, failing to cut off at all!!!!
You're absolutely right, price could be a red flag! That said, I've seen them on sale for $50 and based on the seller being very reputable I'm sure they weren't fake.
I thought for sure mine were fake because they don't work worth shit, but I guess they are real. How do these have such high praise? Shooting my AR with these seriously hurts my ears. I paid $15 at an indoor range yesterday and left within 5 minutes because I just couldn't take the noise from my glock 43 indoors.
Toadvine42 it does not matter which ear defenders I have used, you need to double up with foam earplugs if you are shooting at an indoor range. Outdoor I do find problems with other people shooting near me whose gunfire is not quite loud enough to trip the cutoff circuit. In that case I just turn the volume down.
I agree it's smart doubling up hearing protection inside or outside and it's definitely something I should be doing more. But I've been shooting since I was a little kid and never had a problem with any earmuffs as standalone until I bought these. I wonder if maybe there are multiple variations of fakesor I just have a lemon set as mine plain and simple aren't functional as hearing protection.
Hyperborean Arms I gave up on these and bought some 3M Peltor 27db. Half the price, waaaaaay more comfortable, can use them with sunglasses and most importantly they actually block out sound. Howard Leight are garbage, I've used 3 different pairs now and I guarantee at least one of them was genuine, if not all.
You should always double up but I have my own anecdote. Indoor I agree it's overwhelming. When I went hunting they were perfectly adequate though. Outdoors you don't have the sounds reverberating back. Also you should upgrade the pads to gel like Noisefighters. And while you have them open stick in some more foam to insulate them more. Those two things greatly reduced the perceived sound but I haven't tested them at the range yet.
@@TTime685 Ear cups don’t form good fit and allow sounds to come through. Depends on your head shape. Try before you buy. I had a horrible time with these.
@@TheRotorhound well they do make the aftermarket gel pads for them that extend out further than factory ones 🤷🏼♂️ I hear they seal better and are way more comfortable
@@TTime685 I recommend you try before you buy or make sure the seller will refund if they don’t work for you. You get no sound protection unless you can get a good seal. I bought on reviews and didn’t think I would have a problem. At the time Honeywell owned the company, They replaced the unit and it still didn’t work. I strictly use passive protection but might try Peltor.
Thanks for the warning as I was close to buying the wrong pair. Actually both these headsets offer passive ear protection (noise reduction) and thus they do this similarly with or without batteries. Both might be improved with more inside padding (see another shooter's YT on this) and adjusting how you wear them. The marketing implies that there's magic going on but neither pair is noise cancelling if such a thing exists in this arena. The damage to hearing discussed is exaggerated in that the amplification in these headsets isn't going to hit say, 180dB.
I use the walker razors around jet engines. But you don’t ever want to forget double ear pro
Thanks for the warning!
Thanks for the video. Just found a pair at Goodwill lying next to a toaster oven and an old clock radio. Must've been my lucky day, because they actually turned out to be the real McCoy!
Sweet find! I always love finding treasures like that at a thrift shop! :-)
I just checked the ones I got new on ebay a week ago. They are the real deal and I only paid 32 total. Good vid
Nate's tool and gadget reviews glad to hear you didn't get ripped off! :-)
Thanks! Just wanted to confirm I got the real deal from Amazon- luckily I did!!
As I'm wearing them, I can hear my stomach growling inside haha
luckily I got a real pair. Thanks for bringing this up
Excellent info. Also I'm curious of the embossed headband ,wether it says the sane thing as the true pair. It's also easy to notice that the windscreen on the mic is recessed and the knock off isn't. Great video. Thanks.
The "leather" on the band doesn't look as nice but it is embossed and looks about the same as the real ones. Same writing and face like symbol.
Thank you for the information I just ordered some on eBay
This happened to me and I have damage. I was only able to get them refunded by pp.
Спасибо, друг!
Пожалуйста! I had to use google translate :)
You posted this on Amazon too didn't you? I do the same thing. I appreciate the information.
Edit: I'm curious since this video is now 5 years old of Chinesium manufacturing now has copied these details. It never ceases to amaze me the lengths Chinese companies will go to knock off products. Especially ones that aren't even that expensive. A $40 pair of ear protection is being knocked off... insane.
Chinesium is Chinese metal. That word only applies to something that's made with Chinese metal.
They actually don't go through great lengths to counterfeit stuff. This stuff is coming from the same factory, it just goes out the back door with cheaper materials and different internals.
The cheaper products that sell the most are the exact products they want to counterfeit. People that buy really expensive products are going to be more aware of issues with that product. People that buy cheaper products might not notice.
Not really Insanity at all. They know exactly what they're doing.
Appreciate the video
I noticed similar YT video from 2 years ago compared to yours from 7 years ago, so it's still happening, guess it will be forever 'caveat emptor'
The weird thing is with your Real Pair, is the battery compartment is still Different to mine that i purchased from my military base.
The Copper Leaf Springs are smaller in mine, and the sticker is much different. The headband is also glossier on yours and the overall material looks a bit shinier in appearance than mine.
The one on the right is yes a dead give away it is fake. The color, the battery tray and sticker. Pretty sure the fake one didn’t come with a manual either.
Edit: yes after checking and etc, Amazon are still selling the FAKE ONES, ALBEIT Better Quality FAKES
I have the legit ones but the decibel shutout doesn’t work. Learned the hard way. Also not sure what the jack is for. I plugged in my cell phone for mowing thinking it would shut off the outside sound to listen to music. Nope.
I still use them on the range but just have the sound on for listening to instructions and conversation
Brad Swain if they aren't working I'd send them back or at least call the manufacturer. A quick call might get you a new pair for free!
The headphone jack was a disappointment for me too. The problem with it is there is only one volume control. When I tried to use them to mow the lawn the lawn mower sound went up when I tried to turn the music up and turning the volume down turns off the music!
I was hoping that plugging something in would disable the microphones and let me listen to tunes. :-(
Also ended up buying fakes off Amazon. Sigh...
JeeZ My question is obviously, putting one pair on after the other, what difference was there in what your gun sounded like? If you get all wound up, just purchase the much cheaper Caldwell Electronic Muffs. Caldwells all have a red status L.E.D. which lights up when they are on. I have one pair of each, and the Leights are only very marginally better. This recall is only a C.Y.A. move by that company's lawyers. Both Leights and Caldwells can be wore backwards, so you can hear what's going on behind you. There won't be any warranties on the fakes, but I bet you will be stuck for shipping them back. I noted that they aren't offering a genuine pair of Leights, in trade for the knock offs. So its just a lawyers' thing.
Dave Koenig So comparing them the fakes seem half as effective (subjective of course). My real concern is the electronics being substandard and cutting off at too high a volume or worse, failing to cut off at all!!!!
Dave Koenig Amazon provided a full refund with no requirement to return the fakes.
Under $50 on Amazon or Ebay... FAKE!
You're absolutely right, price could be a red flag! That said, I've seen them on sale for $50 and based on the seller being very reputable I'm sure they weren't fake.
I thought for sure mine were fake because they don't work worth shit, but I guess they are real. How do these have such high praise? Shooting my AR with these seriously hurts my ears. I paid $15 at an indoor range yesterday and left within 5 minutes because I just couldn't take the noise from my glock 43 indoors.
Toadvine42 it does not matter which ear defenders I have used, you need to double up with foam earplugs if you are shooting at an indoor range. Outdoor I do find problems with other people shooting near me whose gunfire is not quite loud enough to trip the cutoff circuit. In that case I just turn the volume down.
I agree it's smart doubling up hearing protection inside or outside and it's definitely something I should be doing more. But I've been shooting since I was a little kid and never had a problem with any earmuffs as standalone until I bought these. I wonder if maybe there are multiple variations of fakesor I just have a lemon set as mine plain and simple aren't functional as hearing protection.
Hyperborean Arms I gave up on these and bought some 3M Peltor 27db. Half the price, waaaaaay more comfortable, can use them with sunglasses and most importantly they actually block out sound. Howard Leight are garbage, I've used 3 different pairs now and I guarantee at least one of them was genuine, if not all.
You should always double up but I have my own anecdote. Indoor I agree it's overwhelming. When I went hunting they were perfectly adequate though. Outdoors you don't have the sounds reverberating back.
Also you should upgrade the pads to gel like Noisefighters. And while you have them open stick in some more foam to insulate them more. Those two things greatly reduced the perceived sound but I haven't tested them at the range yet.
Even the real ones are worthless.
Why
@@TTime685 Ear cups don’t form good fit and allow sounds to come through. Depends on your head shape. Try before you buy. I had a horrible time with these.
@@TheRotorhound well they do make the aftermarket gel pads for them that extend out further than factory ones 🤷🏼♂️ I hear they seal better and are way more comfortable
@@TTime685 I recommend you try before you buy or make sure the seller will refund if they don’t work for you. You get no sound protection unless you can get a good seal. I bought on reviews and didn’t think I would have a problem. At the time Honeywell owned the company, They replaced the unit and it still didn’t work. I strictly use passive protection but might try Peltor.