Brilliant, just waiting delivery of a new bike, haven't really cycled in 35 years! Am planning a day out in London once I get used to it & my train would land in Kings Cross so a perfect route, thank you.
Thanks so much for these videos and routes, I think it's a great way to introduce people to quiet cycling in the city. I did this route on Sunday and it was great! Met a couple of other people following your route as well so you're definitely having an impact out there.
Great video. From Greenwich there is a new segregated route that goes to Woolwich. From there you can go long the Thames cycle path past the Royal Arsenal and all the way along the river to Erith. Well worth the trip.
@@Londoncycleroutes it’s a bit awkward from the town centre, from the cutty sark you go through the university and down a couple of side streets but excellent once you get to the proper segregated cycle path on trafalgar road. It takes you to the woolwich ferry. From there you can either go along the river on the south side to Erith or take the ferry over the river to the greenway and onto Stratford.
That path around the den is known as Coward's way, purposely built to provide a separate route from the away end to South bermondsey Station. Can get quite messy on a derby day
There is a link to Burgess Park. After the filter between Chaucer Drive and Oxley Close, take the first right. Cross the main road (there’s an odd bit of protected lane on the path) and then take a right onto Cooper’s Road. Turn left onto Mawbey Place and right onto Mawbey Road. You can then cross Old Kent Road with cycle traffic lights onto Glengall Road. From here you have two options to get to Burgess Park: one, turn right onto Glengall Terrace which takes you directly into Burgess Park; or two, further up Glengall Road there is a right turn which takes you to the north end of the Surrey Canal Linear Park and onto Peckham. I used to use this route to commute into central London from Forest Hill, and it was always full of cyclists.
oh interesting, I just checked this bit out on Google Maps and it looks alright, if a bit complicated - I wasn't aware it was there. It would be ace to just be able to go straight down a filtered Rowcross Street I still reckon though. Cycle zebra over Roll Rd, filter on Rowcross, cycle lights crossing over Old Kent Road and a short stretch of on-pavement cycleway to the entrance of the park
@@Londoncycleroutes Agreed it is quite wiggly, and Coopers Road does have through traffic but not too much, but a useful little connection for SE London to Q1. Could definitely be improved and a nice direct route into the park down Rowcross St would be ideal!
yup this is C35 and is signposted inc the cycle traffic lights at Mawby Rd/Old Kent Rd as you say. I’m sure this is about working with an existing traffic light controlled junction rather than creating a new one at Rowcross St
Great video again! This channel Is quickly becoming one of my favourites, the videos and commentary are very relaxing, and it's great to see parts of town I haven't been to for ages. Thank you!
it's literally one of the highlights of cycling to greenwich imo. I've actually called ahead before to get them making them before I arrive as it can sometimes take 15 mins (but it's worth it)
Nice bit of history interwoven into the ride. It's coming up to the 10 year anniversary of London Cycling Campaign's Blackfriars Bridge protest to TfL proposal 20 May 2011. The video is on UA-cam but sadly, for such a successful protest, LCC's website link is broken.
Hi, The streets you mentions Stevenson Cresent, Stubbs Drive and Rossetti Road are not named after Millwall Players. We had a Stephenson, but alas not honoured such. Rossetti was Dante Gabriel Rossetti a painter and member of The Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood, who married Elizabeth Siddal and lived in the area. BTW: Found an excellent route from Bromley South to link up to this route in Depford. Mostly along The Pool River Path and linking up with The Ravensbourne River path.
Just to add - I've just about recovered from my scooter incident, and will be adopting this route to get from blackfriars to greenwich and visa versa! The accident happened whilst in CS3 and because of it I've been completely put off it.
Very pleased to hear this! That’s a shame about it being on CS3- what happened exactly, was it someone treating it as a race track or what? Was in on the embankment bit?
@@Londoncycleroutes I stopped at cs3 next to lambeth hill next to castle baynad street, about to turn right with signalling with my hands, and then a scooter rear ended me with quite some velocity. I went flying from my bike and onto the floor, and the scooter driver started swearing at me for not signalling, and I got mad at him because I had clearly signalled. I was very dizzy and was cut and bruised on quite a number of places, but thankfully, the bike was fine and the helmet I had on was a lifesaver. I've left the bike still at the workplace, but will need to bring it back, and I will take the route from chancery lane to blackfriars and go to greenwich from there hopefully. To be honest, its a blessing in disguise as I did think the cs3 route from city to greenwich (via isle of dogs and greenwich tunnel) was a bit dull to look at while cycling, and this makes it more scenic. Love your videos - sorely underrated and needs more views
@@bladibla1234 owww that sounds like a pain in the arse. I think CS3 can be great but sometimes particular at rush hour people absolutely bomb it down there .glad you're on the mend
Another nice video, I was wondering, have you considered buying a pop shield to help filter some of the plosives and sibilance out of your audio feed? It would really help clean up what is looking like a really good set of videos.
I love these longer videos! What do you think about the rebranding of cycle routes into Cycleways? I like the concept of a consistent name but I worry that it will lead to distrust in the system because not all routes are equal in quality, directness and pleasantness.
Yeah that’s a good objection to it - despite normally having strong opinions about this stuff I can see good and bad to changing it. Quiet ways in particular I think we’re attractive as a brand to new cyclists but in the end it’s true that Quietway had segregated lanes (as in this video) and CSH had stretches on quiet streets (eg CS1). I do think getting rid of the CSH brand was good though as opponents can make it out to be a literal superhighway smashing through a neighbourhood or whatever (which obviously couldn’t be further from the truth)
@@Londoncycleroutes I think that’s a good judgment. The Superhighways brand needed to go, especially as CS7 is nowhere near the quality of CS3 or 6. My concerns with rebranding the quiet ways is some of them are too indirect and certain boroughs use that as an excuse to not build segregated lanes on main roads and just do back street routes when in reality we need a mixture of both
Amazing channel! Can I suggest a couple of things? It would be good to add the 'official' names of the routes in description as it will get the search ranking up. Also maybe some sort of cycle friendly score out of 10? And on Q1 to Burgess Park the 'official' way is Cooper's > Mawby > Glengall and enter the park opp Bianca rd. 👍Please make more of these videos. Would be good to see some popular ones like most cycle friendly way to Richmond park.
Great video. However for the last bit it's a lot easier to turn left on Norman Road after the alleyway then right onto Tarves way, which takes you through another filter onto Straightsmouth without needing to dismount and go through the barriers and the DLR. The new route from Greenwich to Charlton should be opening soon for those who want to head further east on protected tracks. Unfortunately there's not really any easy link between that route and the start of the quietway.
@@Londoncycleroutes That's the route I go too (though look out for the occasional HGV and all the parked cars blocking the traffic island), links well with Nevada street too, linking to Greenwich park.
I’ve heard there are ‘plans’ for the town centre but don’t actually know what they are. Some kind of link using haddo street connecting the riverfront path to Q1 would be good
that's a good idea, I will try to remember how to do it from now on! I usually go with time as I think it means more to most people and you can check in the map in the description but there's no reason not to mention it!
I agree that those concrete blocks they put onto the pavement in Greenwich are a pain in the ass and completely unnecessary. I can barely get my bike through when I go through them.
@@Londoncycleroutes I just gave iMovie a go with some clips I took with my iPhone (while I wait for my new GoPro) and uploading on UA-cam it seems it reduces the quality even when exporting with the highest settings... but it might be my eye. Anyhow, just tried the Q1 such a great little route. Love it!! Thanks for sharing!!
I think my issue with going that way is that you can’t cycle in the tunnel and there’s also a pretty unpleasant stretch on the road in the isle of dogs where the thames path gives out
It’s ok. I go that way regularly. Cycling through Canary Wharf isn’t great. A really cycle unfriendly development. Otherwise ok. Takes c 10 minutes longer.
There have been some news reports of muggings on the "Millwall Path" area of this route, and an infamous bit of graffitti warning people of muggings. Would you still use this path knowing this? How safe does this route feel to you "on the ground" so to speak, especially for someone riding alone? Is the area busy? I'm planning on cycling from Kings Cross to the O2 soon, and wondering if I should take an alternate path.
So, I’d be happy to do it but I might not recommend other people do it in the dark late by themselves. Ive never had any hints of any issues but a few people commenting say they have so it sounds like it’s real. Cycleway 4 should open soon and that’ll be a much better alternative
thank you! it's a mix really, partly my own knowledge, partly using google maps/streetview, partly asking people, partly TfL routes and keeping an eye on changes councils are making, and I also use maps like this one which I find really helpful www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1XlpvN9R-Wg7qZHyezO8y-eVlftr4e0WX&hl=en&ll=51.516975804561284%2C-0.21828576419061996&z=11
@@Londoncycleroutes something else that could help is Apple maps. They have just launched cycle routes in London and it seems to be much better in picking up quieter routes and cycle paths, whereas google maps seems to always go for the fastest route. For example I was travelling from Euston to SE13 and it google tried to take me down old kent road! 🤣
Can one safely cycle from Plumstead to Westminster? I’m trying to convince my brother to get on his bike. There are plenty of people who think they are “too far out” to benefit from the safe segregated cycling lanes.
Apparently the Elephant’s Feet you mention at around 12mins don’t mean you have priority, and there’s a faded give way marking on the side you approached that junction from.
Brilliant, just waiting delivery of a new bike, haven't really cycled in 35 years! Am planning a day out in London once I get used to it & my train would land in Kings Cross so a perfect route, thank you.
Amazing, good luck and I hope you enjoy it
My exact journey just made 500% safer. thank you
That’s fantastic! Glad to hear it
Your bike Sir is a portal to another city. Amazing video!
Thank you for watching glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks so much for these videos and routes, I think it's a great way to introduce people to quiet cycling in the city. I did this route on Sunday and it was great! Met a couple of other people following your route as well so you're definitely having an impact out there.
oh really! that's fantastic, thank you for telling me, really great to hear!
Oh look - a squirrel! (7:35)
haha, there was a lot of wildlife out when I rode this! I like the pigeons as well
Great video. From Greenwich there is a new segregated route that goes to Woolwich. From there you can go long the Thames cycle path past the Royal Arsenal and all the way along the river to Erith. Well worth the trip.
Thank you- I need to check out that route to woolwich!
@@Londoncycleroutes it’s a bit awkward from the town centre, from the cutty sark you go through the university and down a couple of side streets but excellent once you get to the proper segregated cycle path on trafalgar road. It takes you to the woolwich ferry. From there you can either go along the river on the south side to Erith or take the ferry over the river to the greenway and onto Stratford.
That path around the den is known as Coward's way, purposely built to provide a separate route from the away end to South bermondsey Station. Can get quite messy on a derby day
Hahah that’s an incredible name! I knew it had something to do with away fans
Really nice calming video. Maybe in spring I can do this one as well.
If you do let me know how it goes!
There is a link to Burgess Park. After the filter between Chaucer Drive and Oxley Close, take the first right. Cross the main road (there’s an odd bit of protected lane on the path) and then take a right onto Cooper’s Road. Turn left onto Mawbey Place and right onto Mawbey Road. You can then cross Old Kent Road with cycle traffic lights onto Glengall Road. From here you have two options to get to Burgess Park: one, turn right onto Glengall Terrace which takes you directly into Burgess Park; or two, further up Glengall Road there is a right turn which takes you to the north end of the Surrey Canal Linear Park and onto Peckham. I used to use this route to commute into central London from Forest Hill, and it was always full of cyclists.
oh interesting, I just checked this bit out on Google Maps and it looks alright, if a bit complicated - I wasn't aware it was there. It would be ace to just be able to go straight down a filtered Rowcross Street I still reckon though. Cycle zebra over Roll Rd, filter on Rowcross, cycle lights crossing over Old Kent Road and a short stretch of on-pavement cycleway to the entrance of the park
but I may use this link to do some videos! thanks for pointing it out
@@Londoncycleroutes Agreed it is quite wiggly, and Coopers Road does have through traffic but not too much, but a useful little connection for SE London to Q1. Could definitely be improved and a nice direct route into the park down Rowcross St would be ideal!
@@ollieking3538 I think I will do Deptford to Camberwell or something like that using this!
yup this is C35 and is signposted inc the cycle traffic lights at Mawby Rd/Old Kent Rd as you say. I’m sure this is about working with an existing traffic light controlled junction rather than creating a new one at Rowcross St
Great video again! This channel Is quickly becoming one of my favourites, the videos and commentary are very relaxing, and it's great to see parts of town I haven't been to for ages. Thank you!
Thanks very much, and cheers for watching!
Hey, love the channel. Can you do Clapham Common to Richmond?
I'll give it a good and see what I can come up with!
@@Londoncycleroutes Awesome!
Definitely gonna check out that Banh Mi spot
it's literally one of the highlights of cycling to greenwich imo. I've actually called ahead before to get them making them before I arrive as it can sometimes take 15 mins (but it's worth it)
Nice bit of history interwoven into the ride. It's coming up to the 10 year anniversary of London Cycling Campaign's Blackfriars Bridge protest to TfL proposal 20 May 2011. The video is on UA-cam but sadly, for such a successful protest, LCC's website link is broken.
It really was a gamechanger
Brilliant!!! I live near Webber Street, I'll pick up the route there. Thank you for this!
Glad to be of help!
Hi, The streets you mentions Stevenson Cresent, Stubbs Drive and Rossetti Road are not named after Millwall Players. We had a Stephenson, but alas not honoured such. Rossetti was Dante Gabriel Rossetti a painter and member of The Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood, who married Elizabeth Siddal and lived in the area.
BTW: Found an excellent route from Bromley South to link up to this route in Depford. Mostly along The Pool River Path and linking up with The Ravensbourne River path.
Ok I trust you on this! i was a bit dubious as I couldn’t find half the names, I can’t remember where I got this info from…
Just to add - I've just about recovered from my scooter incident, and will be adopting this route to get from blackfriars to greenwich and visa versa! The accident happened whilst in CS3 and because of it I've been completely put off it.
Very pleased to hear this! That’s a shame about it being on CS3- what happened exactly, was it someone treating it as a race track or what? Was in on the embankment bit?
@@Londoncycleroutes I stopped at cs3 next to lambeth hill next to castle baynad street, about to turn right with signalling with my hands, and then a scooter rear ended me with quite some velocity. I went flying from my bike and onto the floor, and the scooter driver started swearing at me for not signalling, and I got mad at him because I had clearly signalled. I was very dizzy and was cut and bruised on quite a number of places, but thankfully, the bike was fine and the helmet I had on was a lifesaver. I've left the bike still at the workplace, but will need to bring it back, and I will take the route from chancery lane to blackfriars and go to greenwich from there hopefully.
To be honest, its a blessing in disguise as I did think the cs3 route from city to greenwich (via isle of dogs and greenwich tunnel) was a bit dull to look at while cycling, and this makes it more scenic. Love your videos - sorely underrated and needs more views
@@bladibla1234 owww that sounds like a pain in the arse. I think CS3 can be great but sometimes particular at rush hour people absolutely bomb it down there .glad you're on the mend
@@Londoncycleroutes I finally took this route yesterday! It is as you say very nice and peaceful. Thank you for introducing me to it!
Another nice video, I was wondering, have you considered buying a pop shield to help filter some of the plosives and sibilance out of your audio feed? It would really help clean up what is looking like a really good set of videos.
that's a really good suggestion, I was vaguely thinking about how the audio quality could be improved. I will look into seeing what might work
@@Londoncycleroutes No probs :) Keep up the good work
I love these longer videos! What do you think about the rebranding of cycle routes into Cycleways? I like the concept of a consistent name but I worry that it will lead to distrust in the system because not all routes are equal in quality, directness and pleasantness.
Yeah that’s a good objection to it - despite normally having strong opinions about this stuff I can see good and bad to changing it. Quiet ways in particular I think we’re attractive as a brand to new cyclists but in the end it’s true that Quietway had segregated lanes (as in this video) and CSH had stretches on quiet streets (eg CS1). I do think getting rid of the CSH brand was good though as opponents can make it out to be a literal superhighway smashing through a neighbourhood or whatever (which obviously couldn’t be further from the truth)
@@Londoncycleroutes I think that’s a good judgment. The Superhighways brand needed to go, especially as CS7 is nowhere near the quality of CS3 or 6. My concerns with rebranding the quiet ways is some of them are too indirect and certain boroughs use that as an excuse to not build segregated lanes on main roads and just do back street routes when in reality we need a mixture of both
Great Videos 🎉
Thanks a lot, and thanks for the contribution!
Cool video enjoyed coming along big 👍👍👍🙂
cheers for watching!
Amazing channel! Can I suggest a couple of things? It would be good to add the 'official' names of the routes in description as it will get the search ranking up. Also maybe some sort of cycle friendly score out of 10? And on Q1 to Burgess Park the 'official' way is Cooper's > Mawby > Glengall and enter the park opp Bianca rd. 👍Please make more of these videos. Would be good to see some popular ones like most cycle friendly way to Richmond park.
that's a really good idea! I will try and include for search
I have a Richmond Park route in the works - I think there's a more or less decent one, I just need to try it out
Great video. However for the last bit it's a lot easier to turn left on Norman Road after the alleyway then right onto Tarves way, which takes you through another filter onto Straightsmouth without needing to dismount and go through the barriers and the DLR.
The new route from Greenwich to Charlton should be opening soon for those who want to head further east on protected tracks. Unfortunately there's not really any easy link between that route and the start of the quietway.
That’s a good tip thank you - though it is worth going my way for the bahn mi shop ;)
@@Londoncycleroutes heh! Fair enough, will have to check that place out next time I'm in the area
@@Londoncycleroutes That's the route I go too (though look out for the occasional HGV and all the parked cars blocking the traffic island), links well with Nevada street too, linking to Greenwich park.
The entire town centre seems to be a barrier they don’t want to tackle with C4. When things get hard, just give up apparently.
I’ve heard there are ‘plans’ for the town centre but don’t actually know what they are. Some kind of link using haddo street connecting the riverfront path to Q1 would be good
Brilliant.
Thank you for watching!
Great video!
Cheers Joey!
Thank you! I love this and tried it today with my family
That’s wonderful, glad it was useful!
Very interesting video, did the council follow up your suggestion of a hole in the brick wall etc?
Sadly not but there is an alternative route called C35 that uses Cooper’s Rd that basically works, although it’s a bit longer than what I’d do!
Thank you for another great video! Can you add how many miles each journey is at the start when you show the route on the map?
that's a good idea, I will try to remember how to do it from now on! I usually go with time as I think it means more to most people and you can check in the map in the description but there's no reason not to mention it!
I agree that those concrete blocks they put onto the pavement in Greenwich are a pain in the ass and completely unnecessary. I can barely get my bike through when I go through them.
Yeah it’s a bit weird isn’t it
Going to try this route today.
Random question: what software do you use for video editing? Thank you!
I’m using a free trial of Final Cut Pro at the moment, but you can do most of it with iMovie (which the earlier videos were made with)
@@Londoncycleroutes I just gave iMovie a go with some clips I took with my iPhone (while I wait for my new GoPro) and uploading on UA-cam it seems it reduces the quality even when exporting with the highest settings... but it might be my eye.
Anyhow, just tried the Q1 such a great little route. Love it!! Thanks for sharing!!
@@vittoriominerva41 that's ace, I'm glad it was nice! it really is good
@@Londoncycleroutes it is! Though at some point the signposting disappeared so I got a little lost but found my way soon enough! :)
Cool videos !
Thanks for watching!
Just discovered your channel, very helpful! Subscribed :)
Thanks for watching!
Seeing the map, my instinct was to head east towards Limehouse and drop south through Isle of Dogs and Greenwich tunnel
I think my issue with going that way is that you can’t cycle in the tunnel and there’s also a pretty unpleasant stretch on the road in the isle of dogs where the thames path gives out
It’s ok. I go that way regularly. Cycling through Canary Wharf isn’t great. A really cycle unfriendly development. Otherwise ok. Takes c 10 minutes longer.
OMG …. That’s well far, will be a few pit stops. Tea and bun 😍
That’s the way to do it haha
I would take the canal to limehouse and then the greenwhich foot tunnel
There have been some news reports of muggings on the "Millwall Path" area of this route, and an infamous bit of graffitti warning people of muggings. Would you still use this path knowing this? How safe does this route feel to you "on the ground" so to speak, especially for someone riding alone? Is the area busy? I'm planning on cycling from Kings Cross to the O2 soon, and wondering if I should take an alternate path.
So, I’d be happy to do it but I might not recommend other people do it in the dark late by themselves. Ive never had any hints of any issues but a few people commenting say they have so it sounds like it’s real. Cycleway 4 should open soon and that’ll be a much better alternative
Best cycle routes
Thank you!
Wow these vids are amazing. How do you discover these routes / plan the routes?
thank you! it's a mix really, partly my own knowledge, partly using google maps/streetview, partly asking people, partly TfL routes and keeping an eye on changes councils are making, and I also use maps like this one which I find really helpful www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1XlpvN9R-Wg7qZHyezO8y-eVlftr4e0WX&hl=en&ll=51.516975804561284%2C-0.21828576419061996&z=11
@@Londoncycleroutes something else that could help is Apple maps. They have just launched cycle routes in London and it seems to be much better in picking up quieter routes and cycle paths, whereas google maps seems to always go for the fastest route. For example I was travelling from Euston to SE13 and it google tried to take me down old kent road! 🤣
Can one safely cycle from Plumstead to Westminster? I’m trying to convince my brother to get on his bike. There are plenty of people who think they are “too far out” to benefit from the safe segregated cycling lanes.
yeah I reckon it's possible! I'm actually planning to do a Woolwich to Waterloo video quite soon which is basically next to Plumstead isn't it
Can you redo this video once the new CW4 is complete?
Yes I’ll definitely be doing at least something similar if not identical!
Just to add a new comment - this route on C10 has been problematic at the moment due to mugging and theft on the millwall stadium part of it.
Ah yes I have heard this - any idea if it’s been resolved or continues? C4 can’t come soon enough as an alternative!
You should post GPX files of your routes
He does, on Komoot. See the text for each video. Komoot is free to join anduse.
You can download them in the Komoot link in the description
Squirrel 7:35
So much wildlife about!
Great if only it didn't make me queasy.
Haha oh no sorry!
I went to the Vietnamese sandwich shop, and it was meh.
Oh no, I really like it!
Thats not very useful! So where would you recommend?
Apparently the Elephant’s Feet you mention at around 12mins don’t mean you have priority, and there’s a faded give way marking on the side you approached that junction from.
Interesting, I think it varies depending on whether they’re next to a zebra or not
@@Londoncycleroutes probably. But that one is not.