once again Binh, thank you for sharing your projects with the community. You've really improved my ability to comfortably work on my is250 and you explain everything so damn clearly
Found your channel and subscribed. Great stuff. Just starting my journey on the 2IS. First up is a full transmission rebuild, all steels and friction. Valve body just finished. Thanks. Keep going.
Yea. That’s my experience, I’m not sure if it’s my old MC or the calipers. It feels mushy on initial press but grabs and locks up easy when braking hard.
@@TunerwithKids iv read a few reviews and I think the reason for the lack of feel at the beginning of the stroke is because of the extra caliper volume. Your MC is probably still in good condition, how ever I believe the fix for it is a larger MC.
@@TunerwithKids hmmmb 🤔 I'm really unsure, I wonder if there was MC differences between touareg models? As the touareg had 4 pots and 2 sizes of 6 pot.
yah guys, so what happens is when you keep getting bigger n bigger brakes from stock is that you throw off the original factory torque bias what we call brake bias-- so as we add more pistons, more pad, larger rotors and so on we add more swept area that's being used to brake with, this adds tremendous braking power to the front end of the car compared to the rear. Therefore its super easy to lockup the fronts with little effort, which is almost as bad as locking up the rear which will send the vehicle into a nice tailspin, you'll be first to the scene of the accident (not funny). Locking up the fronts, umm well l'm not too familiar so l don't know if ABS will help at all. Let's look at what we're doint here: taking HUGE brakes from a pretty large SUV, Cayenne, Touareg etc (about 5000pound, 2.5ton) vehicle then adding those same brakes to a pretty light by comparison lS300 or similar-- yah, looks kool but kinda iffy on performance-- the braking system is overkill for the vehicle we're using. Brakes bring the vehicle to rest or slow it down by turning forward momentum into heat via friction. Using larger brakes is for indeed larger vehicles or racing applications where repeated braking from 200 to 60 over a two to 24 hour race where larger brakes are indeed used to contain then dissipate about 1000 to 2000c (where brake rotors are glowing red) temperatures. ln an everyday driver from work, grocery store, home etc. six piston calipers are like Shaquille Oneal on glass backboards back in the day. Competition calipers are formed of aluminum compared to some form of cast steel to dissipate heat and in racing/formula 1 etc. carbon discs are used for superior capacity to heat and indeed very light weight to reduce unsprung weight/mass. FUN FACT: observe cars with those HUGE 34inch rims and itty bitty tiny stock brakes and calipers-- the extra large wheels act like a very long lever against a very small tiny nut-- cook those brakes like in no time flat !! not only the leverage of the wheel size vs. a relatively small rotor but also the weight. Here we're only using the opposite idea: using a Massive caliper/rotor setup inside a midsize sedan..... lMO the first upgrade, maybe the second to Gs.FSport calipers was decent but to 6 piston Brembos will upset the brake balance, that's my opinion only, not anything l've actually experienced myself. 27jul2023.dellthecomputer
@@TunerwithKids the calipers in terms of outside size are equal The interior of the 18Z can handle a bigger rotor I just cant find any plug & play 350mm rotor for that car 😅🤔
I watched this brake upgrade series from the day you picked up the calipers from the junkyard and holy sh*t your attention to detail is insane! For all the work you’ve done, do you think it was worth it? I’m kinda iffy on the amount of shaving you had to do up front just to make everything fit. I’m debating on just doing the LS400 calipers up front and 17z rears.
Not worth it. If you want huge brakes just do 350phi.com brackets and ISF. You can get brand new ISF calipers for $300/ea new. If you want bigger better brakes, use same brackets and IS350 fronts. Don’t waste time on LS400, old tech, hard to find or maintain and barely an upgrade.
I like the 17z rears though. Minimal or no shaving needed and look good. Those can be found for $60 or less at junkyards for the set. They are all over as they were use in all the Porsche,VW, and Audi SUV from 04-10.
correct ! on multi piston calipers always bleed from outside pistons then inside towards the Mc; likewise bleed air from the brake system every 2 years-- start from the longest farthest line, passenger rear, driver rear, passenger front then driver front 27jul2023.dellthecomputer
once again Binh, thank you for sharing your projects with the community. You've really improved my ability to comfortably work on my is250 and you explain everything so damn clearly
Going to do this on my gs400 mainly for the safety of my newborn… and I get to be “baller” status by friends cuz it looks cool 😎
May want to consider ISF or IS350 front using the 350phi.com brackets. Less fitting work parts needed to fit.
Absolutely amazing!! Definitely a great improvement!! You certainly work very hard!!
Found your channel and subscribed. Great stuff.
Just starting my journey on the 2IS.
First up is a full transmission rebuild, all steels and friction. Valve body just finished.
Thanks. Keep going.
Love ur videos very helpful
For the algorithm. 🙏🏾
Nice set up..I’m doing the same thing on my 1992 Toyota pick up…
Great video as always have a question about you coilovers are they megan and how do there ride
They are Megan’s, ride fine to me but I’m not very picky. They are adjustable dampening but I haven’t really messed with it.
Wondering if this would fit jzx100
Look great I used the brembo from a Genesis coupe on my is300 came out great want to run a hydro need help
Did you have to do any mods for it to fit?
@@rafizaman1523 yea had to go with ISF rotors bigger then stock that’s why I figure a standard is300 kit won’t work
@@rafizaman1523 and I would like to keep it all brembo I figured rears form 350z should fit
The blank rear rotors you ordered there could we get that part number? Pleaseeee 😢 search hard for them
PN is probably in description box but they probably aren’t available anymore.
how do you find the brake feel?
i heard the pedal travel is considerably more, and the bite is very sudden.
Yea. That’s my experience, I’m not sure if it’s my old MC or the calipers. It feels mushy on initial press but grabs and locks up easy when braking hard.
@@TunerwithKids iv read a few reviews and I think the reason for the lack of feel at the beginning of the stroke is because of the extra caliper volume. Your MC is probably still in good condition, how ever I believe the fix for it is a larger MC.
Could be it. The IS300 stock MC is 1-1/16”. But I looked up the Touareg MC spec and it’s the same size.
@@TunerwithKids hmmmb 🤔 I'm really unsure, I wonder if there was MC differences between touareg models? As the touareg had 4 pots and 2 sizes of 6 pot.
yah guys, so what happens is when you keep getting bigger n bigger brakes from stock is that you throw off the original factory torque bias what we call brake bias-- so as we add more pistons, more pad, larger rotors and so on we add more swept area that's being used to brake with, this adds tremendous braking power to the front end of the car compared to the rear. Therefore its super easy to lockup the fronts with little effort, which is almost as bad as locking up the rear which will send the vehicle into a nice tailspin, you'll be first to the scene of the accident (not funny). Locking up the fronts, umm well l'm not too familiar so l don't know if ABS will help at all.
Let's look at what we're doint here: taking HUGE brakes from a pretty large SUV, Cayenne, Touareg etc (about 5000pound, 2.5ton) vehicle then adding those same brakes to a pretty light by comparison lS300 or similar-- yah, looks kool but kinda iffy on performance-- the braking system is overkill for the vehicle we're using.
Brakes bring the vehicle to rest or slow it down by turning forward momentum into heat via friction. Using larger brakes is for indeed larger vehicles or racing applications where repeated braking from 200 to 60 over a two to 24 hour race where larger brakes are indeed used to contain then dissipate about 1000 to 2000c (where brake rotors are glowing red) temperatures. ln an everyday driver from work, grocery store, home etc. six piston calipers are like Shaquille Oneal on glass backboards back in the day. Competition calipers are formed of aluminum compared to some form of cast steel to dissipate heat and in racing/formula 1 etc. carbon discs are used for superior capacity to heat and indeed very light weight to reduce unsprung weight/mass.
FUN FACT:
observe cars with those HUGE
34inch rims and itty bitty tiny
stock brakes and calipers-- the
extra large wheels act like a very
long lever against a very small
tiny nut-- cook those brakes like
in no time flat !! not only the
leverage of the wheel size vs. a
relatively small rotor but also
the weight. Here we're only
using the opposite idea: using
a Massive caliper/rotor setup
inside a midsize sedan.....
lMO the first upgrade, maybe the second to Gs.FSport calipers was decent but to 6 piston Brembos will upset the brake balance, that's my opinion only, not anything l've actually experienced myself.
27jul2023.dellthecomputer
What are your wheel specs?
Do you have the link for the front the rotors ?
I think I have them in the video description box.
Did you balance the brakes after this upgrade ?
No. Using stock proportional valve.
hi, do you know any oem 350mm rotors that fit a is200, i have 18z front calipers to apply but need 350mm disc
thank you and very nice job
18z is too big and won’t clear and adapt easy. The 17z is more fitting but need the 14.1 inch GS350 F-sport rotors.
@@TunerwithKids the calipers in terms of outside size are equal
The interior of the 18Z can handle a bigger rotor
I just cant find any plug & play 350mm rotor for that car 😅🤔
@@TunerwithKids the suport for the caliper i know that has to be costum, i Will need to build One for that caliper and rotor size
What brake pads did you use? i can’t seem to find it on your description.
VW Tuareg, Porsche Cayenne or Audi Q7 from mid 2000s.
Is that a 3d printed bracket or fabricated metal?
Carbon steel.
Hello where did you get the adapter for the calipers
overkill engineering on IG. He only has limited brackets that he makes and sells.
Hi friend, can you send me a photo of the drawings for the transition plates?
You gotta buy the brackets from Overkill Engineering on IG.
Hey what wheel offset did u go with to clear those brakes?
Had to do 20mm and extended studs up front. The SSR were low disk and barely clear the OEM IS300 flat calipers.
What size was the brembo decals
Check description box for links.
Thanks man!
I watched this brake upgrade series from the day you picked up the calipers from the junkyard and holy sh*t your attention to detail is insane! For all the work you’ve done, do you think it was worth it? I’m kinda iffy on the amount of shaving you had to do up front just to make everything fit. I’m debating on just doing the LS400 calipers up front and 17z rears.
Not worth it. If you want huge brakes just do 350phi.com brackets and ISF. You can get brand new ISF calipers for $300/ea new. If you want bigger better brakes, use same brackets and IS350 fronts. Don’t waste time on LS400, old tech, hard to find or maintain and barely an upgrade.
@@TunerwithKids so IS350 Fronts, what about the rears?
I like the 17z rears though. Minimal or no shaving needed and look good. Those can be found for $60 or less at junkyards for the set. They are all over as they were use in all the Porsche,VW, and Audi SUV from 04-10.
@@TunerwithKids thanks! IS350 Fronts and 17Z Rears sound like a good setup.
@@TunerwithKids What you think about ls460 brakes?
Can these fit gs300?
Overkill eng makes adapter for GS also.
bro, with brembo, you're supposed to bleed from the inside first and work your way to the outside
Conflicting info on that. Cause you want to bleed furthest out from MC, the outside pistons would be further than inside pistons, logic suggests that.
correct ! on multi piston calipers always bleed from outside pistons then inside towards the Mc; likewise bleed air from the brake system every 2 years-- start from the longest farthest line, passenger rear, driver rear, passenger front then driver front 27jul2023.dellthecomputer