One of the strongest argument for the pre-2.0 sets (barring Lingering and Moonlit) is the fact that Hecate can become a 4-COST for ANY of them, which is rad af. So Echo Sets like Sierra Gale and Celestial Light has an inhenrent advantage because their 5p effect are generic, so the only thing that steers them in a specific direction is the 4 COST, which, if you take advantage of Hecate in there, basically makes the set usable for Coordinated Attackers of that Type. There's also just them releasing more 4 COST that steers the aforementioned sets in specific directions, and that's pretty dang rad.
It's iffy for now since we don't have any coordinated attackers that want a specific element set yet. Also have to consider that the buff from those sets will likely expire before their full coordinated attack carries out vs just running Empyrean and buffing your whole team from it.
@Zer0Perplexity Yeah pretty much, if someone is putting Hecate as their main echo then they probably also want the coordinated attack set, which makes other Hecate kinda irrelevant
@@tilazt Unfortunately, Solon dictates all 4 star weapon in wuwa are inadequate to compete in highest tier of meta playfield like in Tower of Malding. Just pull signature 5 star weapon and all your problem go away.
Lingering tunes' niche imo is that not only is the echo skill instant but the set specifically increases outro skill damage. If you build a team around quickly proccing outros its pretty potent.
For Lingering tunes. I'm saving the ones with attack% just in cause they add an attack based buffer support that just want to stack as much attack as possible like Bennett or Robin.
This guide is very useful indeed. I've been already throwing away all my freeze echos without looking. Now I can also throw away all my lingering tune too. I wonder if i should also throw away the new set that nobody can use. I guess not right away, since it could be good for a future char.
I've used LT on both XLY and Carlotta before I upgraded to their sets Also it's the only one I have 5/5 echo on (in case of XLY) No way I'm ever throwing it away
My first ever 30/30 clear was with Freezing Frost set on Carlotta. She was like 8 on talents, and it was last 1 or 2 days of ToA before reset. So I put FF on her, teamed her up with Sanhua and Baizhi and cleared middle tower. I still sometimes use this set on Sanhua in overworld, but I put Ice Doggo in the 4th slot.
If you want tubes, it's the most reliable source at the moment. And you can farm on one that has the set you want, so I think they are pretty valuable. Although they could use a little buff in the amount of tubes and echoes they drop tbh
@@ivanmartinez743so does the forgery challenge. I mean what's the point of playing lv 90 field if it's just going to drop one gold ascension material if I'm lucky and none of I'm not. They need to make it like the overlord fights where you get 4-5 of their materials at lv 90 challenge instead of 3 from 80 or 2 from 70 etc.
The issue with the Void Thunder set is to get the 30% dmg bonus, you need to do both Skill AND Heavy attack Xiangli Yao cannot heavy attack outside his ult. So you still have to heavy attack before his ult to get the buff
''you still have to heavy attack before his ult to get the buff'' that's exactly what you have to do? what's the point of using his heavy in ult? you lose 15% nuke ult you want an option to do less damage? its easy af, intro-hold mouse left click-E- ult... that takes 1 second if you are not even trying
New spectro set is broken on Rover. Just cleared middle tower easily and its easy to build since you get shit ton of cr from his dupes so you pretty much only fish for cd and occasional cr. Can't wait to play Phoebe next patch since they synergize really well
Lingering tunes is great for pincers maneuver because of yhe effect that deals dmg with ur on Field character It scales with the character stats and dmg bonus will not work unlike atk% so one set with full atk and crit sups will do for anyone
Brant will be using the Tidebreaking Courage, and it's not even a spoiler or a leak. The game itself tells you for which character it was designed, so you can from this also deduce Captain Brant Sparrow will need a ton of ER. The set itself suggests he will be dealing damage as part of his kit, and probably wants to spam his Resonance Liberation.
Ngl, I had a cracked Glacio set for my DPS Zhezhi (who ran with Sanhua...), and then Camellya took Sanhua away but Carlotta was glacio and resonance skill so I was rocking that on Carlotta on day 1. I still don't have double crits on all of the new set, but it gives so much resonance skill damage that my Carlotta is performing well enough so I finally started recycling it.
I have made shi* ton of speedruns and comparisons with LingYang, he is not as bad as people usually describe him, i am going to fight you all till you finally recongize that he is not THAT bad.
Here's a massive con for Rejuvenating Glow: 4-cost Bell Tortoise Echo with Healing+ main stat in the Rejuvenating Glow set is near impossible to get. To those people trying: good luck!
As a person from the future i can comfortably say that the Tidebreaking courage set is like the other B tier sets since its only BiS for Brant atm (im not from that far into the future) so yea its ight but might get more users later on
Hey saintontas can you make a short video showing a perfect camellya danjin team , i personally still dont know how to use new echoes i would love for you to make a video showing how to profit from new echoes on both camellya and danjin demonstrating how to use correctly i still am confused on how ppl are using their character outro intro and echoes its so confusing i wanna get stronger to tackle the endgame i finally reached high levels for all character and Uni level
Farming a good coordinated attack set improved my Jiyan team with mortefi soooo much that is insaine, because Jiyan's numbers are almost the same but mortefi's dmg most likely doubbled. Also Hakate is good to build more easily Jinsji stacks in the rotation
23:03 I use Brilliance for Rover with ER sonata to boost more CDM and Resonance Skill. Rover's skill is a blast and has a low CD. Per-hit of his/her skill with one bar of forte is very high. If you want more CDM, use the 4 cost echo with CDM rather than CR.
His outro is definitely really strong, but your intuition is right. It's better to use the other Havoc set to buff the rest of his kit, not just one move. You'd use him as a sub-DPS with that set as well, which doesn't make sense. His outro doesn't buff another character and he requires longer field time to use his Forte. It's for Roccia or Danjin if you intend to use her as strictly sub-DPS...and only sub-DPS for only Camellya or Rover. Farm when you have literally nothing else to do, or absolutely adore Roccia, IMHO.
Back when we had the clunky 4 cost of void thunder, I farmed lingering tunes so hard for Yao that hes my best DPS with 70-300 ratio on that set So now farming for void thunder cuz that's the better option feels so wrong
Ironically I farm ice set to main Zhezhi with moon set Taoqi but version 2 introduced new bis set for either roles, it’s pretty sad the mecha set is so niche and forgotten I only farm the boss for Yinlin and she doesn’t even use its echo effect perhaps Kuro will introduce new sets soon to replace them or new nightmares
As a lingyang main and stan, while I can't agree with a lot of the slander on him (which I will avoid talking about because I will absolutely lose that argument), i will agree that freezing frost is pretty bad. Even I run him with carlotta's set and changed around my playstyle for him.
Sanhua’s signature set is frosty resolve. Just cleared the whole tower with main dps sanhua + moonlit zhezhi with that set and changli’s signature. Prove me wrong 😅
For me the Empyrean Anthem as well as the new nightmare echoes have been a blessing. Rest are niche but since I have both Carlotta and Roccia, their set comes next. What about Yuanwu on Empyrean Anthem? Did I miss it or did he not mention him?
Spetro Rover gets more out of Celestrial light the newer echos are, the loss of 15% sepcrtro dmg for the c.rate when is not worth it after you take into account Rover S1 most people using the new set on her and losing dmg, that being better there are better set for her because she is better of supporting a better DD Also, Yuanwu doesn't heal and dose a Coordinated Attack, giving him an Empyrean Anthem and then having a character with moonlight is the best way to play him.
The havoc buff set being balanced is giving me mixed feelings. On the one hand, it feels like because of how niche of a damage buff it gives, it should be busted. BUT that would just rocket havoc damage way too high in the meta over other types which I don't see being healthy for the game (they would have to balance it out by either giving the other dmg types a similar set, eclipsing all older support sets, or actively lower the havoc dps units' numbers to balance things out)
Honestly I hate MC for the sole fact that its broken Ideally, MC should be a stopgap just like LT, but it's so good you will never have the need to replace it
Mech abomination echo is way too good imo. I might try out the new nightmare thundering echo to see how it feels but so far ive been satisfied with lingering tunes on xiangli yao
I think midnight veil should A or B cause i use that set on sanhua and i think its the most flexible set aside from moonlit cloud if u wanna buff specific element so i hope there will be more set like this in the future❤
Idk if it’s me but whenever I’m watching your videos a lot of the time there are edits where you say the same thing twice a lot, idk if it’s intentional but just a FYI. Ex: 5:55
It's just the way he talks lol. saying the same sentence or phrase multiple times is often used to emphasize a point, clarify an idea, or draw attention to something important, and can also be a sign of a communication issue or a neurological condition depending on the context.
Thanks for the vid saint, I really like your game centric content. You have interesting takes and well constructed opinions on the things you talk about, which is great to see. You talk with more than surface level knowledge, continue being a great gamer. However, pet peeve of mine, and you're not the only one doing this, but the quality of the vid is really not very good... I assume because it's taken from your stream, but would there not be a way to get better b-roll on those types of ''explain the game'' vids? Best
Havoc gotta be the strongest element in game, like it has 2 sets and 4 units (taoqi who?) and all you have to do is farm one of each set and you have 2 teams right there, all you have to pull for is roccia and camellya, then you get 2 teams (minus defender) id say the only element that contends with havoc is spectro, since there’s 2 healers, jinshi, spectro rover, and soon to be pheobe who should be able to share either jinshi’s or spectro rover’s set. Until we know pheobe’s weapon and kit this friday havoc gotta be the strongest since all u gotta do is build 3 weapons, the 5* f2p sword, the concerto guantlets (unless u want roccia to do more dps then 5* f2p guantlets) and somnoire sword (or concerto sword if u missed it) and the only other weapon you might need is variation if u have verina/shorekeeper
@ but toa wont be the only endgame content soon and spectro and havoc characters are so strong it matters less anyways and if there’s a side that doesnt resist either than it gets demolished, then there’s overworld with how the spectro and havoc characters feel both easy to play and are strong with how good camellya’s and jinshi’s mobility is it also makes it fun to fly/spiderman around
Would trash all except atk 1costs, Glacio 3costs and critdam/crit chance as usual. But that goes for all DPS only sets heh. Would save it personally as Charlotta set might not be the best set for next Glacio.
I like how yuan wu isn’t even in here. The only silver fox in the game. So sad!!! Get Roccias gauntlet and use the emy set and YeAy! You have enough crit!
As much as i love Saintontas as a content creator, i was really dissapointed when heard what he says about LingYang, i mean he is not super strong, and some critique is fair, but he clears all the endgame content with ease at mid investments.
@ggrimmfield5529 he is quite flexible when it comes to build, depending on the playstyle his BiS may be Freezing Frost or Lingering Tunes, you can also consider using new frosty resolve set if you already have decent one in case you have Carlotta ( this set is also pretty good on him) If you want to use him in left/right part of ToA Baizhi and Sanhua might be enough, i think even 4* weapons will be enough if you have enough skill on your back, but if you want him to clear modern central ToA i highly doubt it's possible without 5* weapon, but it is possible without Verina or Shorekeeper ( i tried yesterday) the next ToA reset is gonna be having higher Glacio resistance in central part, but again as an option you can always easily use him on the sides. If you use him with Sanhua 120% ER seems like a bare minimum, and if with Zhezhi 110% will be enough, he really wants CR 4 cost echo unless you use Verity's handle on him, and also sometimes ATK 3 cost for one slot is okay, because apparently he gives himself way too much Glacio dmg bonus.
@@rinoku16 holy cow ~ based on all of your suggestions I'm actually all set and ready for Lingyang. I got all the 3 echo sets fully built coz i used LT to Yao when his first released, i built a decent FF set coz i tried making Zhezhi as a main dps, and also i just finished building Carlotta with good FR stats. I even have Yao's signature weapon 🤔 Any suggestions of the skill order for level up?
@@ggrimmfield5529 Forte is essential, most of his damage comes from forte state, then everything else i think, nowadays not a lot of people make LingYang content, but i hope i was helpful
I sort of agree, but also in a way I don't... LinYang just feels real bad to play for me. Sure he clears, but I can clear more comfortably with almost any other DPS, while not feeling bad for farming a shit echo set and a shit boss for mats that I already had to farm for my sanhua. Yeah, too extreme, but also Lingyang really is comparatively bad in many ways. Even If he is definetly playable.
Question Saint, and you can pin 📌 me as a dummy comment if you deem it so: With Havoc Rover's Havoc Res shred from her S4, would it plausible to potentially use the 2.0 Havoc set on her; or is it full on cope? I ask just for the sake of potentially burning the kitchen. I haven't actually done this as i run her with the actual Havoc 1.0 set & her cracked Dreamless Echo
I clear central part of ToA with LingYang in one minute lie every cycle... His playstyle is not that clunky as all of you describe it... I am so tired of it. Like he performs almost on the same level as some of the limited characters at mid-high investments, cmon. Unless it's hyperinvestments he still performs really well. He can clear Central part of ToA with Sanhua and Baizhi bruh
Lingyang suck and he have clunky gameplay, but he have really good animations, especially after every stage of his bascis attack he ends up with different animation. You can see that animators put effort in his kit
Ah yes echo tier list ... next tier list gotta be the food one
Sweet & sour defiently S for sure
SS Pork is SS tier
Echo SET tier list.
That would be goated
That's actually good idea
This is the best Wuwa content on youtube, sure there is some fun dumb drama content, but there is also thoughtful, well researched, data and strategy.
One of the strongest argument for the pre-2.0 sets (barring Lingering and Moonlit) is the fact that Hecate can become a 4-COST for ANY of them, which is rad af. So Echo Sets like Sierra Gale and Celestial Light has an inhenrent advantage because their 5p effect are generic, so the only thing that steers them in a specific direction is the 4 COST, which, if you take advantage of Hecate in there, basically makes the set usable for Coordinated Attackers of that Type.
There's also just them releasing more 4 COST that steers the aforementioned sets in specific directions, and that's pretty dang rad.
It's iffy for now since we don't have any coordinated attackers that want a specific element set yet. Also have to consider that the buff from those sets will likely expire before their full coordinated attack carries out vs just running Empyrean and buffing your whole team from it.
@Zer0Perplexity Yeah pretty much, if someone is putting Hecate as their main echo then they probably also want the coordinated attack set, which makes other Hecate kinda irrelevant
u should do a 4* weapons tierlist. like the which ones have value
Valuable weapon list that i know :
- Stonard ( Crit rate substat)
- Gauntlet #21 (Energy regen)
-Variation (Energy regen)
@@minuteman21Forgot overture
For sure, A structured, thought out list of 4 stars would be great, especially as a way of dialing in how bad or not the f2p weapon meta is!
@@tilazt Unfortunately, Solon dictates all 4 star weapon in wuwa are inadequate to compete in highest tier of meta playfield like in Tower of Malding. Just pull signature 5 star weapon and all your problem go away.
@@minuteman21 Overture, Cadenza, Rectifier #25, Call of the Abyss
for Empyrean Anthem, you can use 44111 with 2 crit rate main stats if you don't have enough crit weapons. they are supporter anyways.
Lingering tunes' niche imo is that not only is the echo skill instant but the set specifically increases outro skill damage. If you build a team around quickly proccing outros its pretty potent.
The only tier list that saint did, that didn't raise eyebrows lmaoo. I can literally agree on anything he said here
For Lingering tunes.
I'm saving the ones with attack% just in cause they add an attack based buffer support that just want to stack as much attack as possible like Bennett or Robin.
same
7:03 I just called out... Thankfully I watched that guide.
This guide is very useful indeed. I've been already throwing away all my freeze echos without looking. Now I can also throw away all my lingering tune too. I wonder if i should also throw away the new set that nobody can use. I guess not right away, since it could be good for a future char.
Yea keep your 2.0 sets for at least a few patches in case new chars can use them
I would recommend keeping your already built set, you might want them in the future
i would say throw away the new havoc set, even if you have roccia, she's still better to just use moonlit set.
I've used LT on both XLY and Carlotta before I upgraded to their sets
Also it's the only one I have 5/5 echo on (in case of XLY)
No way I'm ever throwing it away
@@maulanarizky7252 well, I don't Roccia, but been keeping them for Danjin
My first ever 30/30 clear was with Freezing Frost set on Carlotta. She was like 8 on talents, and it was last 1 or 2 days of ToA before reset. So I put FF on her, teamed her up with Sanhua and Baizhi and cleared middle tower. I still sometimes use this set on Sanhua in overworld, but I put Ice Doggo in the 4th slot.
You should review the value of tacet fields instead of single echo sets.
If you want tubes, it's the most reliable source at the moment. And you can farm on one that has the set you want, so I think they are pretty valuable. Although they could use a little buff in the amount of tubes and echoes they drop tbh
@@ivanmartinez743so does the forgery challenge. I mean what's the point of playing lv 90 field if it's just going to drop one gold ascension material if I'm lucky and none of I'm not. They need to make it like the overlord fights where you get 4-5 of their materials at lv 90 challenge instead of 3 from 80 or 2 from 70 etc.
In an alternate timeline, he did that and you commented, "You should review the value of single echoes instead of tacet fields."
@@ivanmartinez743Tuners… people need tuners
The issue with the Void Thunder set is to get the 30% dmg bonus, you need to do both Skill AND Heavy attack
Xiangli Yao cannot heavy attack outside his ult. So you still have to heavy attack before his ult to get the buff
And that takes 0.5 sec
@Noobster474 ik. It's just that the text is still misleading and Kuro hasn't fixed it
''you still have to heavy attack before his ult to get the buff'' that's exactly what you have to do? what's the point of using his heavy in ult? you lose 15% nuke ult
you want an option to do less damage?
its easy af, intro-hold mouse left click-E- ult... that takes 1 second if you are not even trying
Keep up the dope videos dawg, you really are the GLUE of WuWa.
Someone who has carlotta, farming for phoebe has never been easier lmao
you can also farm molten rift and rejuvanating glow together, which is great given how hard it is to get energy regen on rejuvenating glow.
theorizing tidebreaking on jianxin as well. The ER helps ngl
New spectro set is broken on Rover. Just cleared middle tower easily and its easy to build since you get shit ton of cr from his dupes so you pretty much only fish for cd and occasional cr. Can't wait to play Phoebe next patch since they synergize really well
Man dramaless content is so nice and chill
Waifu tier list when?
I'd love to see our Genghis Khan doing that tier list 🗿
Cringe.
@@svetoslavivanov5858 let me guess .... Twitard?
Changli automatic F Tier cuz bro a hater
Most of them look like kids....
Lingering tunes is great for pincers maneuver because of yhe effect that deals dmg with ur on Field character
It scales with the character stats and dmg bonus will not work unlike atk% so one set with full atk and crit sups will do for anyone
So that's why my xy struggle on a void set w/ nightmare thunder 68/260 vs lingering 65/255.I didn't notice the buff on that event
@@holoshrimp2795 yeah I learned that by cheesing the event with my ult account
hides my freezing frost set on sanhua with max crit rolls and ER
this is a damn good video, keep up the good work
Brant will be using the Tidebreaking Courage, and it's not even a spoiler or a leak. The game itself tells you for which character it was designed, so you can from this also deduce Captain Brant Sparrow will need a ton of ER.
The set itself suggests he will be dealing damage as part of his kit, and probably wants to spam his Resonance Liberation.
duly noted, ill farm it for my husband then
lingering tunes higher than glacio set is something i never imagined
Its unironically better on Lingyang than the ice set since his outro hits like a truck.
Ngl, I had a cracked Glacio set for my DPS Zhezhi (who ran with Sanhua...), and then Camellya took Sanhua away but Carlotta was glacio and resonance skill so I was rocking that on Carlotta on day 1. I still don't have double crits on all of the new set, but it gives so much resonance skill damage that my Carlotta is performing well enough so I finally started recycling it.
As the echoes are atm, I think Kuro might have problems with echo sets in the future with a bunch of them being very specific. Excellent video!
That tacet field with frosty resolve and the spectro one should be the one i need for phoebe? I want to pre farm her but im not sure
Yes it is
Moonlit set is just that good and useful
I have made shi* ton of speedruns and comparisons with LingYang, he is not as bad as people usually describe him, i am going to fight you all till you finally recongize that he is not THAT bad.
Saying Havoc Eclipse isn't Danjin's best set is blasphemous to every Danjin main in the game.
Here's a massive con for Rejuvenating Glow:
4-cost Bell Tortoise Echo with Healing+ main stat in the Rejuvenating Glow set is near impossible to get. To those people trying: good luck!
As a person from the future i can comfortably say that the Tidebreaking courage set is like the other B tier sets since its only BiS for Brant atm (im not from that far into the future) so yea its ight but might get more users later on
finally this is what i wanted
Hey saintontas can you make a short video showing a perfect camellya danjin team , i personally still dont know how to use new echoes i would love for you to make a video showing how to profit from new echoes on both camellya and danjin demonstrating how to use correctly i still am confused on how ppl are using their character outro intro and echoes its so confusing i wanna get stronger to tackle the endgame i finally reached high levels for all character and Uni level
We Need Most Valuable Dupes
Farming a good coordinated attack set improved my Jiyan team with mortefi soooo much that is insaine, because Jiyan's numbers are almost the same but mortefi's dmg most likely doubbled. Also Hakate is good to build more easily Jinsji stacks in the rotation
i mean for tidebreaker were also speculating its brants becuz the 4 cost echo buffs fusion dmg
23:03 I use Brilliance for Rover with ER sonata to boost more CDM and Resonance Skill. Rover's skill is a blast and has a low CD. Per-hit of his/her skill with one bar of forte is very high.
If you want more CDM, use the 4 cost echo with CDM rather than CR.
Another great video bro! Top wuwa cc 100% not even close
I mean is midnight vale kinda useable on rover? His outro does decent amout of dmg, but also why tf would you play him not as a dps?
His outro is definitely really strong, but your intuition is right. It's better to use the other Havoc set to buff the rest of his kit, not just one move. You'd use him as a sub-DPS with that set as well, which doesn't make sense. His outro doesn't buff another character and he requires longer field time to use his Forte. It's for Roccia or Danjin if you intend to use her as strictly sub-DPS...and only sub-DPS for only Camellya or Rover. Farm when you have literally nothing else to do, or absolutely adore Roccia, IMHO.
Back when we had the clunky 4 cost of void thunder, I farmed lingering tunes so hard for Yao that hes my best DPS with 70-300 ratio on that set
So now farming for void thunder cuz that's the better option feels so wrong
Lingering tunes equipped to my Oiled Up Saint everyday of the week, like if you agree
Ironically I farm ice set to main Zhezhi with moon set Taoqi but version 2 introduced new bis set for either roles, it’s pretty sad the mecha set is so niche and forgotten I only farm the boss for Yinlin and she doesn’t even use its echo effect perhaps Kuro will introduce new sets soon to replace them or new nightmares
19:30 Canterella is gonna use the set too
Frosty resolve really fits to sanhua too and don’t get me wrong she might be the strongest 4* so she is really good with it too.
Sequences Nodes Tier List When?
I got a pity pull for Jinhsi like i really didn't mean to pull her. It was my last pull before giving up and saving up for another character to pull.
would like to see a tier list of weapons
As a lingyang main and stan, while I can't agree with a lot of the slander on him (which I will avoid talking about because I will absolutely lose that argument), i will agree that freezing frost is pretty bad. Even I run him with carlotta's set and changed around my playstyle for him.
Sanhua’s signature set is frosty resolve. Just cleared the whole tower with main dps sanhua + moonlit zhezhi with that set and changli’s signature.
Prove me wrong 😅
For me the Empyrean Anthem as well as the new nightmare echoes have been a blessing. Rest are niche but since I have both Carlotta and Roccia, their set comes next.
What about Yuanwu on Empyrean Anthem? Did I miss it or did he not mention him?
Yuanwu wasn't mentioned, I think it's likely cause his coordinated attacks aren't that good
as person that have only Electro and Fusion units I agree
I used to use celestial light on my Verina 😅
Tidebreaking Courage? I think Brant will be going to use it
How many times have saint said “ladies and gentlemen”
Good to know min maxing the S rank sets is still worth it in 2.0 patches.
I saw my echo bag at 1990/2000 and i just went ahead and get rid of all my LT echos now I'm around 1800/2000 lol
Seems like Brandt will use Tidebreaking Courage, no?
Should Lumi use with Moonlit for Carlotta setup?
I don’t even have a moonclit set because tacet fields only give trash and farming that set seems painful
moonCLIT lol
How long did you farm on the tacet field?
@@kantokuu what’s the name? xD
moonlit set does not require farming ...
@@Wolfyyy ? i dont have any why not
Spetro Rover gets more out of Celestrial light the newer echos are, the loss of 15% sepcrtro dmg for the c.rate when is not worth it after you take into account Rover S1 most people using the new set on her and losing dmg, that being better there are better set for her because she is better of supporting a better DD
Also, Yuanwu doesn't heal and dose a Coordinated Attack, giving him an Empyrean Anthem and then having a character with moonlight is the best way to play him.
The havoc buff set being balanced is giving me mixed feelings. On the one hand, it feels like because of how niche of a damage buff it gives, it should be busted. BUT that would just rocket havoc damage way too high in the meta over other types which I don't see being healthy for the game (they would have to balance it out by either giving the other dmg types a similar set, eclipsing all older support sets, or actively lower the havoc dps units' numbers to balance things out)
temped to build lingering tunes set for rover bcus im lazy to switch.... assuming rover will have all element in the future Dx
Lingering tunes is really good. It won't be bis but work on anyone
Honestly I hate MC for the sole fact that its broken
Ideally, MC should be a stopgap just like LT, but it's so good you will never have the need to replace it
No tidebreaking?
Mech abomination echo is way too good imo. I might try out the new nightmare thundering echo to see how it feels but so far ive been satisfied with lingering tunes on xiangli yao
I think midnight veil should A or B cause i use that set on sanhua and i think its the most flexible set aside from moonlit cloud if u wanna buff specific element so i hope there will be more set like this in the future❤
Bobylee
I might roll phoebe if she’s like the best amplifier for jinhsi, otherwise I might not
more guides pleaseeeee
LingYang deserves more attention
ohhh no drama video
lets gooooo
Character tier list
If he ever makes wuwa waifu tier list guess where changli going
why cant shorekeeper use the tidebreaker courage set? Her Energy Regen has to be at 250% or higher right? so why cant it be used an alternate for her?
If you have an S6 Shorekeeper and build her damage then sure, otherwise Rejuvenating glow is better.
Hands with gentle ladies
Idk if it’s me but whenever I’m watching your videos a lot of the time there are edits where you say the same thing twice a lot, idk if it’s intentional but just a FYI. Ex: 5:55
It's just the way he talks lol.
saying the same sentence or phrase multiple times is often used to emphasize a point, clarify an idea, or draw attention to something important, and can also be a sign of a communication issue or a neurological condition depending on the context.
@ ok it always looked like the video was cut every time to me
i think linyang needs a rework
Anyone else feel a little something something when that girl in the outro breathes?
Thanks for the vid saint, I really like your game centric content. You have interesting takes and well constructed opinions on the things you talk about, which is great to see. You talk with more than surface level knowledge, continue being a great gamer.
However, pet peeve of mine, and you're not the only one doing this, but the quality of the vid is really not very good... I assume because it's taken from your stream, but would there not be a way to get better b-roll on those types of ''explain the game'' vids?
Best
best echo set for yinlin?
Feet tier list when
Wait.... You're not suppose to put freezing frost on sanhua?........
Havoc gotta be the strongest element in game, like it has 2 sets and 4 units (taoqi who?) and all you have to do is farm one of each set and you have 2 teams right there, all you have to pull for is roccia and camellya, then you get 2 teams (minus defender) id say the only element that contends with havoc is spectro, since there’s 2 healers, jinshi, spectro rover, and soon to be pheobe who should be able to share either jinshi’s or spectro rover’s set. Until we know pheobe’s weapon and kit this friday havoc gotta be the strongest since all u gotta do is build 3 weapons, the 5* f2p sword, the concerto guantlets (unless u want roccia to do more dps then 5* f2p guantlets) and somnoire sword (or concerto sword if u missed it) and the only other weapon you might need is variation if u have verina/shorekeeper
Havoc and Spectro are actually the worst elements in the game because they have the most resistances in ToA.
@ but toa wont be the only endgame content soon and spectro and havoc characters are so strong it matters less anyways and if there’s a side that doesnt resist either than it gets demolished, then there’s overworld with how the spectro and havoc characters feel both easy to play and are strong with how good camellya’s and jinshi’s mobility is it also makes it fun to fly/spiderman around
5:57 do i trash all freezing frost echo i have?
Same question i have tons of them
Would trash all except atk 1costs, Glacio 3costs and critdam/crit chance as usual. But that goes for all DPS only sets heh.
Would save it personally as Charlotta set might not be the best set for next Glacio.
When will I get an almost perfect echo...
Poor midnight veil. I'll take the -.7% damage so I never have to use Vanilla Heron again tho.
Pa pa ra
Do a content creator tier list, doesnt matter what the ratings are based on😂
I like how yuan wu isn’t even in here. The only silver fox in the game. So sad!!! Get Roccias gauntlet and use the emy set and YeAy! You have enough crit!
As much as i love Saintontas as a content creator, i was really dissapointed when heard what he says about LingYang, i mean he is not super strong, and some critique is fair, but he clears all the endgame content with ease at mid investments.
Do you have any tips for Lingyang build?
He's the only one i haven't got in my account. My 50/50 is not guaranteed so i might lose my pull next patch.
@ggrimmfield5529 he is quite flexible when it comes to build, depending on the playstyle his BiS may be Freezing Frost or Lingering Tunes, you can also consider using new frosty resolve set if you already have decent one in case you have Carlotta ( this set is also pretty good on him) If you want to use him in left/right part of ToA Baizhi and Sanhua might be enough, i think even 4* weapons will be enough if you have enough skill on your back, but if you want him to clear modern central ToA i highly doubt it's possible without 5* weapon, but it is possible without Verina or Shorekeeper ( i tried yesterday) the next ToA reset is gonna be having higher Glacio resistance in central part, but again as an option you can always easily use him on the sides. If you use him with Sanhua 120% ER seems like a bare minimum, and if with Zhezhi 110% will be enough, he really wants CR 4 cost echo unless you use Verity's handle on him, and also sometimes ATK 3 cost for one slot is okay, because apparently he gives himself way too much Glacio dmg bonus.
@@rinoku16 holy cow ~ based on all of your suggestions I'm actually all set and ready for Lingyang. I got all the 3 echo sets fully built coz i used LT to Yao when his first released, i built a decent FF set coz i tried making Zhezhi as a main dps, and also i just finished building Carlotta with good FR stats. I even have Yao's signature weapon 🤔
Any suggestions of the skill order for level up?
@@ggrimmfield5529 Forte is essential, most of his damage comes from forte state, then everything else i think, nowadays not a lot of people make LingYang content, but i hope i was helpful
I sort of agree, but also in a way I don't... LinYang just feels real bad to play for me. Sure he clears, but I can clear more comfortably with almost any other DPS, while not feeling bad for farming a shit echo set and a shit boss for mats that I already had to farm for my sanhua. Yeah, too extreme, but also Lingyang really is comparatively bad in many ways. Even If he is definetly playable.
Question Saint, and you can pin 📌 me as a dummy comment if you deem it so: With Havoc Rover's Havoc Res shred from her S4, would it plausible to potentially use the 2.0 Havoc set on her; or is it full on cope?
I ask just for the sake of potentially burning the kitchen. I haven't actually done this as i run her with the actual Havoc 1.0 set & her cracked Dreamless Echo
Did he forget one set that has an energy bonus ?
Do a food one
Spectro Rover does no damage? You are drunk dude, im soloing the tower with Spectro Rover...
Phoebe + Rover is gonna be the top dps team in 2.1 1000%
I clear central part of ToA with LingYang in one minute lie every cycle... His playstyle is not that clunky as all of you describe it... I am so tired of it. Like he performs almost on the same level as some of the limited characters at mid-high investments, cmon. Unless it's hyperinvestments he still performs really well. He can clear Central part of ToA with Sanhua and Baizhi bruh
I use Celestial Light on Shorekeeper xd
me who already has a tidebreaker set for brant LMAOOOO
Lingyang suck and he have clunky gameplay, but he have really good animations, especially after every stage of his bascis attack he ends up with different animation. You can see that animators put effort in his kit