Martin the players have shown they can’t perform in ANY system. I’m so sick of these pundits saying the 343 won’t work. These players are losers it’s that simple.
When you're retaining players of the standard of Victor Lindelof for 8 seasons and paying him close to 50 million in wages for their services during that time maybe relegation and reflection wouldnt be a bad thing.
Lindelof Maguire shaw Dalot rashford martial sancho mctominay Casemiro how long did these clowns stay at Utd lol,some of them seen of about 8 managers,but keep it going great banter club
Amorim is 100% doing the right thing in not changing his system for the players he has. The guy has an identity and he wants to implement it. He is going through some pain now, identifying who can and cannot play in that system, and then put his trust in the board to get rid of the players that can't do it, and allow him to bring in players who can. What is the point in Amorim doing what ETH done and try and grind out results. It creates a false hope around the club. Fans, media, pundits, and those above Amorim get roped into believing that they are better than they are and the cycle just repeats itself. Amorim needs time and patience.
As a Bournemouth fan, sometimes you just need to be patient. Iraola didn't win 9 games in a row at the start of his tenure - then it clicked! Now everyone in the team is working together and knows the plan, it's so fun to watch!
United fans always talk about getting rid of dead woods. 80% of the players were signed less than 3 seasons ago. The problem is not the players or the manager. It’s the contracts they give them. United offered Branthwaite 160k a week. What motivation will such a player have when you give him that contract. 350k for Bruno in the summer while’s Chelsea offered Palmer 120k incentivized deal. 200k for Anthony. Sancho is playing happily at Chelsea for less than half what United paid him. That’s the problem with United.
Unfortunately there's a huge hangover from the negligence of those in charge of transfers. Ineos are trying to change that. Also the Sancho point is just untrue, he hasn't taken a pay cut, we're paying the extra on top of what Chelsea pay
Yes, players will only br motivated if they make less than £100 grand a week. That’s why Salah is considering leaving Liverpool unless he gets offered a bigger contract. 🙄
Clueless English hype. He’s has one really good season, that’s it. He should be playing for a mid table team, he’ll never be a star for a title winning team.
They were INEOS signings. Ten Hag only gave the ok. In fact there were reports he didnt want Zirkzee, and yet INEOS signed him and he was annoyed that Zirkzee arrived overweight.
Quite but that is good. Deliver like they are but stay under the radar. Always the best way. Only egotistical people need attention. Wise people let their actions define who they are
ETH is/was a part of the problem. He kept buying these players from an average DUTCH league. None of them have gone on to dominate the EPL. His recruiting lacked diversity. The side lacks size, technical ability and heart. Bruno is getting away with robbery!
He only bought 3 players from the Dutch league - Martinez (relative success), Antony (disaster) and Malacia (long-term injury, which ya can't really mitigate). He didn't buy Bruno.
@ - thanks for confirming the players. How tall are they? All 5’ 9 or under. He brought vertically challenged players into the most physical league in Europe. Look at how we defend set pieces! Didn’t Onana, Delight and Maz play with him in the Dutch league? Two were rejects at Bayern. MM, reject at Chelsea.
@@landothomas1118lol i love how you spin things already debunked by Bayern munich and their supporters. Are you always a obeying 🐑 that do not think for yourself?
@@landothomas1118 Using that logic all Premier league players should be 6'4 with bulging biceps and six-pack. Maz & De ligt were bought in conjunction with the new part owners, and have been positives in an otherwise negative season.
Dude he bought more than just those players why lie? Hojilund objectively sucks that’s Ten Haags striker. He gave number 7 to Mason Mount😂. Onana is not even a good ball playing keeper his kicking sucks
Please Amorin do not change your system or beliefs, change the player's no matter how long it takes or how low we fall change the players to suit your system
Lazy false journalism, United were practically 13th when Ten Hag was sacked and you're saying "now sits 13th" under Ruben. Also what sort of take is could have been 7-0 Spurs in the cup match from Specsavers Simon? United had double the shots 20 to Spurs 10 shots and Spurs XG at full time was 0.68 to Uniteds XG which was almost 4 times that with a 2.46 ratio or there abouts. Clueless muttering.
Amorim has been too brutal towards Casemiro & others cos the objective is to persue a top 4 place, not playing him when he has been needed could have prevented some of the goals & losses we have enjoured!
Rashford hasnt featured at all the past 5 games that havent gone well for Amorim/Man utd everyone seem to be using him as scapegoat DIDNT Rashford score 2 goals on his 1st game for Amorim and was dropped 3 days later and after that never started a game? get your facts right
Somehow the conversation spiralled around to Rashford again 😂😂 no shocker there, the obssession is next level 😂from Pogba to Sancho to now Rashford stand alone lol when hes gone they will find another one
Simon was against Bournmouth hiring Iraola, look where has he taken them? He was also against Forest strategy in the transfer market and hiring of Nuno. Also, look where he has taken them.
For anyone waffling about systems and formations.. the same team couldn’t play any variation of 4-3-3 either. Keown played in an era of 4-4-2 so why’s he thinking he’s Pep with his analysis 😵💫
Great points Martin Simon And Jim. I'm A United Fan. Been so for Forty Five years. I have a passion for my Club. Every one of you Guys Nailed it tonight. Lad's have A Very Merry Christmas.
I'm a Manchester United fan and have been for over 40 years, the best thing Amorim could do right now is quit, the club is a mess, all aspects of it is shambolic.
The number of shots conceded under ETH was ridiculous. This has been greatly reduced. But we still can’t score. Need a striker and attacking midfielder who care
Amorin quickly realising this isn’t a farmers league. United have horribly overspent over the last few years and their fans don’t help as they horribly overhype players like Rashford, Onana, Martinez, Garnarcho, Mainoo and then when they don’t turn up they slander them. They just can’t accept they overspent and they have a very average team at best
Look, we’ve been here before and this time it’s with a different man in charge. It’s simple really - get rid of those players that are not good enough to play for this football club. They are not top quality and they don’t show enough passion and pride within them. They get away with everything and they somehow still get to wear the United shirts. Ruined my Christmas they did after yesterday. These players are doing everything they can do get Amorim sacked so come January he must act fast and bring in better forwards who can help us to finally score goals cuz some of are attackers are weak at finishing and Rashford and Antony are just not enough.
@tdi1279: Well said buddy I've been saying it for last few seasons them player's are rotten to the core, just look how many managers them player's got the sack. Y.N.W.A
I normally agree with Jordan but how does he make out Spurs should have won 7-0? They scored one goal directly from a corner, another one from a speculative long range effort and United had the better of the stats and missed more big chances United haven't been brilliant by any means but they've underperformed on results relative to the run of play through the season.
Manchester United decided to use Rashford as a scapegoat for all the things that are wrong in this rotten club and it backfired. Simon cry me a river so what Rashford just supposed to accept responsibility for everything that’s wrong in his club. F that
Most this team is ten hag players all ten hag did was make the problem much worse. Amorim hasnt a chance just another manager thrown overboard of a sinking ship
People saying ‘Amorim Out’ don’t know football, period. Ten Hag was a good tactician but didn’t have the charm for the job. Amorim is the one. Thinking he could turn these players into world beaters after 9 games is laughably stupid. Watch another sport
ETH is responsible for this. How many times did some of us complain about his poor signings and bad talent Id? He signed most of these players. He never tried to sign quality players, had nothing to do with funds he just chose some silly targets.
@@fugitivemoses7515he didn't make all the signings, the problem is united can't get the best players as they don't want to go there. And any player they do get they get over priced as united have the money and are desperate
@@Dave-s8yjust for the sheer disrespect you all show to ten hag, I hope that united gets relegated and amorim sacked by the end of the season (will probably still happen anyway)
How do people not realise that Kobbie and Bruno should be switched around. The most important attribute a 10 should have is the ability to carry the ball and not lose it in the final third, which is what Bruno does constantly!
The problem is even if Amorim can evaluate the whole squad and knows who cant do it, can they be got rid of and replaced. Nothing in Uniteds last decade suggests the players will be moved on, even when everyone can see they are not up to it.
Bournemouth have better players and a class manager they have stood by. . Considering he lost about 9 matches when he came in ...great to watch ..gazzgooner...
PLAYERS WOULD DARE DO THIS TO SIR ALEX .... Roy did..... Becks did his ting Why was stam gone? Loads of players did it b4 aswell...... All this "bigger than the club" fart talk.... Any human will defend themselves no matter who they work for.... Havent people who work at THE PALACE spoken out..... If u work for BT u can talk If u worl for H&M.... Dnt matter who the company is..... they need to respect their workers.... Dislike that clubs wana act like they big time..... same way a play can break a leg and bbye bye goes career.... There are clubs that are no longer in business.... so much for "club bigger than the players" Im sure ex bury players are playing at other clubs today...... so where they bigger than the club coz they still standing..... Club should respect their workers and workers should respect the club ......
I'm a Chelsea fan. We were in United's form uncomfortably not that long ago. But the fact of the matter is that United's team is not good enough to wear that jersey. (There are some people on Chelsea's roster who shouldn't be there either, but we're sitting in second.) The only player who is worthy of that jersey is Bruno Fernandes. Garnacho, Mainoo, and Diallo are young talismans that need to be integrated slowly into the team and learn from veterans, not being the ones you're hoping to win you every game. Rashford is an unfulfilled prodigy because the team never had world-class veteran wingers/forwards for him to learn from. No need to waste words on the other players. They should all go out on loan or be sold and United need to build a proper Top 4 team.
Rashford has the talent but refuses to use it, like so many players today he appears to spend more time at the hairdressers, tattoo parlour and watching his phone than learning to improve their game and do what they are overpaid for and what the fans expect.
Paying 350+K per week to an average player just to not let it go to another club is a big mistake..If El flopo comes to my office and says ''Boss me wants more dough or me leaves'' I would say ''Wait a min. me calls taxi for you now'
The team selection against Bournemouth yesterday was questionable again that has contributed to the loss. The team should have been: Onana, Maguire, DeLigt, Martinez, Malacia, Casemiro/Bruno, Ugarte/Mainoo, Mazraoui, Amad, Hojlund. Subs: Bayindir, Yoro, Evans, Dalot, Amass, Eriksen, Gernacho, Zirkzee & Antony We expect an home win unfortunately Amorim chose a team that showed tideness. Amorim was at fault again & has No Excuse cos he should have carried on from where Ruud Van Nisteroy left off. We're now 11 point down from where we should be cos we already have the players to choose from!
@languageoffootball That's not the point, the objective is to pursue a top 4 place with minimal fuss cos we have the players to choose from, due to poor team selection we are 11 point down from where we should be, out of a cup competition in 1 week, Joke Thing Right so Amorim has to take the blame! When Van Nistoroy set the momentum it should have been an easy ride for Amorim but his drastic changes has caused the problems we're going through right now cos it should have been a gradual process towards top 4 with the squad we have!
@@bryngefferies7530 negative play doesn’t tend to achieve top 4 these days. RvN had a mini honeymoon. Doesn’t mean he’d have carried on. Those players don’t become good players overnight!
Why FA didn’t cancel the game between Everton and Chelsea ? There was a horrible wind and heavy rain. The players couldn’t perform their set pieces because of strong wind the ball was rolling all the time on. I couldn’t imagine in what condition the pitch was too. And why Robinson after red card he had got on previous game against Fulham come up on the pitch.
This might be the most controversial opinion but I think some of these high wage players with the limited abilities that they possess are trying to get the manager sacked at the earliest, they know that with these inflated contracts they will not find a suitable club after this once the contract expires, at least not with the same wages that they are earning here.
I agree with the fact United are not good enough and deserved to lose but honestly the overaction here is laughable again from the clickbait masters. In both games United have created more changes, which is shown by the stats as well.
United are bad but what game did Simon watch when Tottenahm played United? Tottenham were terrible apart from 15 minutes after half time when United had a meltdown. Then Tottenham had a metldown. That was a clown match and I think it flattered Tottenham more. They played similar vs Liverpool and got torn to shreds until Liverpool scored so much they couldn't be bothered anymore.
Man United need to get real. Get rid of prima Damas. That is 60% of the players. No effort no movement. They all watch the ball then its to late. Most out of shape. Get rid of BRUNO and Erickson and casimero too too old for midfield. Same for defense. Shaw, landerlof, McGuire need to go to lower division where they can walk around the pitch
Mr. Jordan. I'm contesting your comments. In every match but one with the new manager they have had more possession. Against Bournemouth , United had 23 shots (11 on target) Bruno Fernandes had 3 glorious chances, Amad 2 great chances, Garnacho missed a one on one. They could and should have had 4 or 5 goals. Bournemouth had 4 shots on target and scored 3. Yes, the defence was poor but United had enough chances to win. Against Spurs the 4th goal of theirs would have been cancelled with VAR and at the time Spurs were desperately trying to hold on. United will come good as the season goes on and getting rid of the big ego's will help ( and we all know who they are)
The problem at Manu is less about the manager and more about the directors and the scouts. Take Rashford as an example. He was never going to be ManU's number 9 that was ever gonna wion them the league and several managers did not play him regularly, even Mourinho stated he's not as good as people think he is but being home grown he always got good press which in turn influenced the directors who refused to sell him. I said a few years ago that if I was his team mate I'd be livid with all the non-football side-jobs he had going on, some only for the PR, when he did not perform on the pitch. Beckham was similar but always performed on the pitch.
Its not rocket science--the players are simply not good enough. End of! You could put any manager in the dug out with this squad and the same will happen. They buy 2nd rate players for ridiculous transfer fees with even more ridiculous contracts.
I hope to god he gets rid of Onana. Can never count on him to make a world class save or keep you in the game. Absolute dogshit of a keeper. No urgency in him getting the ball out either. Our second keeper is also shite.
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As a Liverpool fan i can only DREAM of the money given to successive UTD Managers compared to Liverpool ones !!
Liverpool do they just don't need to spend bad or big, we are shite because our money went on below average players on long term contracts. Liverpool are smart and only spend and know how to spend it united splash it out like free candy
It is funny how Jordan smirked at Keown’s tactical analysis. As if Jordan knows anything better. Ask Keown about playing football and Jordan for making money except Jordan lost millions £££😊
It's not the manager. United 0 Bournemouth 3 under ten Hag. 0 3 under Anorim. It's the club. The poor finance. The rip off prices and overpaid second rate players. The fans still expecting Alex Ferguson levels of football that haven't been seen since he left.
Rashford has taken the piss and devalued himself just as sancho did , he will go on loan then on the cheap and keep his wages , , he looking after number 1 , these guys should have profomance related play in contracts , no way he should be getting his 350 a week after this stunt , ps I’ve always been a fan of him
Utd are going to have to take a massive financal hit come this summer. Not only are they going to struggle selling most of these players, but they are also going to have to pay significantly over the odds as everyone knows they will be desperate.
I don't think we will overpay for anyone nomatter the circumstances just like last summer where even the prices were quite decent. That's one reason Ashworth got the sack btw.
Bournemouth weren't magnificent. They didn't need to be. Just like how they beat Spurs at a canter, a well coached team such as Bournemouth doesn't even need to get out of second gear when they're up against teams coached by absolute novices such as Postecoglou and Amorim.
Can preach about the long-term project & process all they want to, but United should never be losing 3-0 at home to Bournemouth, & so fast forward 12/18 months during a similar slump, the same lot who were calling out for Ten Hag, Ole & Jose to get sacked will be calling out Amorim to get the boot too I bet! This club needs to add star quality that will walk in as early as January & carry the team to at least be more competitive, help win more matches and ease the pressure!
That's what you have been doing for the last decade. Throw money at the problem. Even in your worst hour you want to continue doing that, which has failed. How about getting decent players and coaching them properly. Coaching doesn't seem to be part of the ethos of United and there fans
@FitzroyGeorge-c4h A lot of these players simply aren't good enough, aren't young enough, or just don't have the attributes to come good under Amorim, & so we need new players to salvage at least some sort of respectability this season! A new addition with an immediate impact similar to when Bruno first joined in the January window under Ole is a must! A new LB as early as next week would obviously be an upgrade and improve on what we have! A club as big as United simply doesn't allow for Amorim to be losing at home to Forrest & Bournemouth with such resignation! The allowance for time on the training pitch to develop and improve is still dependent upon the results at the weekend for the players to buy into it!
Imagine being as desperate as Keown and hoping that Arsenal win a league title again 😂 21 years since they last won the league....never won the Champions league and he thinks Arsenal are a top European team.... Embarrassing 😂 😂
Martin the players have shown they can’t perform in ANY system. I’m so sick of these pundits saying the 343 won’t work. These players are losers it’s that simple.
When you're retaining players of the standard of Victor Lindelof for 8 seasons and paying him close to 50 million in wages for their services during that time maybe relegation and reflection wouldnt be a bad thing.
I call him waterman. He isn't cold enough for ice.
Bournemouth is a well managed team Mu is a team in transition. But Mu players were poor
they gave him and extension and wage rise 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@frankedward4556they hadn’t won in 4 games
Lindelof Maguire shaw Dalot rashford martial sancho mctominay Casemiro how long did these clowns stay at Utd lol,some of them seen of about 8 managers,but keep it going great banter club
Martin Keown doing his taxes again
😂😂
Choked on my cup tea when I read this 😂
Amorim is 100% doing the right thing in not changing his system for the players he has. The guy has an identity and he wants to implement it. He is going through some pain now, identifying who can and cannot play in that system, and then put his trust in the board to get rid of the players that can't do it, and allow him to bring in players who can. What is the point in Amorim doing what ETH done and try and grind out results. It creates a false hope around the club. Fans, media, pundits, and those above Amorim get roped into believing that they are better than they are and the cycle just repeats itself. Amorim needs time and patience.
Rubbish. The system should fit the players not the other way around.
@barryosullivan1486 Nonsense. Same players been shocking for years. 100% has to be Amorim's way
As a Bournemouth fan, sometimes you just need to be patient. Iraola didn't win 9 games in a row at the start of his tenure - then it clicked! Now everyone in the team is working together and knows the plan, it's so fun to watch!
You’re a credit to the premier league, glad your team highlighted our frailties for our new manager to progress 👏🏻
United fans always talk about getting rid of dead woods. 80% of the players were signed less than 3 seasons ago. The problem is not the players or the manager. It’s the contracts they give them. United offered Branthwaite 160k a week. What motivation will such a player have when you give him that contract. 350k for Bruno in the summer while’s Chelsea offered Palmer 120k incentivized deal. 200k for Anthony. Sancho is playing happily at Chelsea for less than half what United paid him. That’s the problem with United.
Unfortunately there's a huge hangover from the negligence of those in charge of transfers. Ineos are trying to change that. Also the Sancho point is just untrue, he hasn't taken a pay cut, we're paying the extra on top of what Chelsea pay
Exactly that
You've made great points here. Good line of thinking.
So the difference in motivation is between £150,000 - £350,000 . .. how stupid , you are gaslighting the fans , working for INEOS 2.0 smh
Yes, players will only br motivated if they make less than £100 grand a week. That’s why Salah is considering leaving Liverpool unless he gets offered a bigger contract. 🙄
Rashford is the most overated player in premier league history
spot on
Most overpaid@@terrymay8114
He is good at knee bending and feeding the world 😂
Foden and palmer will follow , dele Ali,mount ,grealish and rashford put in their place
Clueless English hype. He’s has one really good season, that’s it.
He should be playing for a mid table team, he’ll never be a star for a title winning team.
Amorim is literally playing with all of Ten Haags signings it’s INEOS fault they should’ve never kept him over the summer and let him keep buying
They were INEOS signings. Ten Hag only gave the ok. In fact there were reports he didnt want Zirkzee, and yet INEOS signed him and he was annoyed that Zirkzee arrived overweight.
What is Martin doing in these shows? Marking homework?
There's a tin in the cupboard with COFFEE marked on it..open it up, boil some water and treat yourself.
Thank you Mr Keown for your reference to Bournemouth. It is funny though that before we got into the top 5 we were not getting the recognition.
Quite but that is good.
Deliver like they are but stay under the radar. Always the best way.
Only egotistical people need attention. Wise people let their actions define who they are
Why would you get recognition? It’s quite ignorant to expect positive comments when you’re at best in mid table.
You will not be getting it for long either. Your team is having a fluke!!!!!
ETH is/was a part of the problem. He kept buying these players from an average DUTCH league. None of them have gone on to dominate the EPL. His recruiting lacked diversity. The side lacks size, technical ability and heart. Bruno is getting away with robbery!
He only bought 3 players from the Dutch league - Martinez (relative success), Antony (disaster) and Malacia (long-term injury, which ya can't really mitigate). He didn't buy Bruno.
@ - thanks for confirming the players. How tall are they? All 5’ 9 or under. He brought vertically challenged players into the most physical league in Europe. Look at how we defend set pieces! Didn’t Onana, Delight and Maz play with him in the Dutch league? Two were rejects at Bayern. MM, reject at Chelsea.
@@landothomas1118lol i love how you spin things already debunked by Bayern munich and their supporters. Are you always a obeying 🐑 that do not think for yourself?
@@landothomas1118 Using that logic all Premier league players should be 6'4 with bulging biceps and six-pack. Maz & De ligt were bought in conjunction with the new part owners, and have been positives in an otherwise negative season.
Dude he bought more than just those players why lie? Hojilund objectively sucks that’s Ten Haags striker. He gave number 7 to Mason Mount😂. Onana is not even a good ball playing keeper his kicking sucks
Please Amorin do not change your system or beliefs, change the player's no matter how long it takes or how low we fall change the players to suit your system
Lazy false journalism, United were practically 13th when Ten Hag was sacked and you're saying "now sits 13th" under Ruben.
Also what sort of take is could have been 7-0 Spurs in the cup match from Specsavers Simon?
United had double the shots 20 to Spurs 10 shots and Spurs XG at full time was 0.68 to Uniteds XG which was almost 4 times that with a 2.46 ratio or there abouts.
Clueless muttering.
Clearly we look more like scoring under Amorim something ETH struggled with before he left
@tobiifalade3731 The issue quite frankly is the quality of players especially in midfield and attack. Utterly inept technically
@@Dan-mx9bvso it was ETH fault now it’s the players fault ?
Man Utd are so open at the back it’s mad. They have to score 3 to win a game.
Rinse and repeat, they'll be having the same conversation for the next thirty years.
@stevenicol1: Let's hope so 😂 ynwa.
Problem with United is the recruitment department
And everything else
I thought it was ETH?
Amorim has been too brutal towards Casemiro & others cos the objective is to persue a top 4 place, not playing him when he has been needed could have prevented some of the goals & losses we have enjoured!
Rashford hasnt featured at all the past 5 games that havent gone well for Amorim/Man utd everyone seem to be using him as scapegoat DIDNT Rashford score 2 goals on his 1st game for Amorim and was dropped 3 days later and after that never started a game? get your facts right
Somehow the conversation spiralled around to Rashford again 😂😂 no shocker there, the obssession is next level 😂from Pogba to Sancho to now Rashford stand alone lol when hes gone they will find another one
They always need a scapegoat.
If amorim sticks to that 2323 system ,he will swallow some 9 goals in one match this season
Liverpool soon
Simon was against Bournmouth hiring Iraola, look where has he taken them?
He was also against Forest strategy in the transfer market and hiring of Nuno.
Also, look where he has taken them.
That says a lot about Simon
@@tobiifalade3731what are the lottery numbers for January 7th 2034?
Football can change fast ,gary o Neill was being touted for a big job last year ,but he wasn't helped by his board ill give him that
For anyone waffling about systems and formations.. the same team couldn’t play any variation of 4-3-3 either. Keown played in an era of 4-4-2 so why’s he thinking he’s Pep with his analysis 😵💫
Great points Martin Simon And Jim. I'm A United Fan. Been so for Forty Five years. I have a passion for my Club. Every one of you Guys Nailed it tonight. Lad's have A Very Merry Christmas.
Paid too much ,set for life with 1 contract
I agree we are shite 😞
I'm a Manchester United fan and have been for over 40 years, the best thing Amorim could do right now is quit, the club is a mess, all aspects of it is shambolic.
The number of shots conceded under ETH was ridiculous. This has been greatly reduced. But we still can’t score. Need a striker and attacking midfielder who care
Last season you mean cause this season it was quite normal
ETH you say not the problem ,yet he brought so many players in that are bang average.
You can blame onana for at least half of the goals conceded.
Amorin quickly realising this isn’t a farmers league. United have horribly overspent over the last few years and their fans don’t help as they horribly overhype players like Rashford, Onana, Martinez, Garnarcho, Mainoo and then when they don’t turn up they slander them. They just can’t accept they overspent and they have a very average team at best
Inferior players, inferior standards, inferior mentality, Inferior ambitions...... Manchester United since 2013.....Rip
Look, we’ve been here before and this time it’s with a different man in charge. It’s simple really - get rid of those players that are not good enough to play for this football club. They are not top quality and they don’t show enough passion and pride within them. They get away with everything and they somehow still get to wear the United shirts. Ruined my Christmas they did after yesterday. These players are doing everything they can do get Amorim sacked so come January he must act fast and bring in better forwards who can help us to finally score goals cuz some of are attackers are weak at finishing and Rashford and Antony are just not enough.
@tdi1279: Well said buddy I've been saying it for last few seasons them player's are rotten to the core, just look how many managers them player's got the sack. Y.N.W.A
They weren't good enough under ten haag
Martin spot on
I normally agree with Jordan but how does he make out Spurs should have won 7-0?
They scored one goal directly from a corner, another one from a speculative long range effort and United had the better of the stats and missed more big chances
United haven't been brilliant by any means but they've underperformed on results relative to the run of play through the season.
Agreed. Utter nonsense. If anything it was a 2-1 game made into a spectacle by atrocious keeping.
Manchester United decided to use Rashford as a scapegoat for all the things that are wrong in this rotten club and it backfired.
Simon cry me a river so what Rashford just supposed to accept responsibility for everything that’s wrong in his club. F that
Most this team is ten hag players all ten hag did was make the problem much worse. Amorim hasnt a chance just another manager thrown overboard of a sinking ship
People saying ‘Amorim Out’ don’t know football, period. Ten Hag was a good tactician but didn’t have the charm for the job. Amorim is the one. Thinking he could turn these players into world beaters after 9 games is laughably stupid. Watch another sport
ETH is responsible for this. How many times did some of us complain about his poor signings and bad talent Id? He signed most of these players. He never tried to sign quality players, had nothing to do with funds he just chose some silly targets.
@@fugitivemoses7515wake up did ETH choose to sign Evans and Maguire etc . eEth is to blame for signing onono . Blame the board fool
@@fugitivemoses7515he didn't make all the signings, the problem is united can't get the best players as they don't want to go there. And any player they do get they get over priced as united have the money and are desperate
ETH a good tactician what at dominoes because it definitely wasn't football the clown wasted millions
@@Dave-s8yjust for the sheer disrespect you all show to ten hag, I hope that united gets relegated and amorim sacked by the end of the season (will probably still happen anyway)
People acting like we didn't know we were rubbish some months ago and are not trying to fix it. You expect this team to go on a 5 games winning run?
Christmas miracle, Keown 100% right on everything he’s said
How do people not realise that Kobbie and Bruno should be switched around. The most important attribute a 10 should have is the ability to carry the ball and not lose it in the final third, which is what Bruno does constantly!
Is there a serious chance they finish bottom 10?
The problem is even if Amorim can evaluate the whole squad and knows who cant do it, can they be got rid of and replaced. Nothing in Uniteds last decade suggests the players will be moved on, even when everyone can see they are not up to it.
Blame Manchester as a whole. Football has died there.
Manchester isn’t a nice place to live
Yes the city with the most successful PL team and the team that has won four PLs in a row … dead 🤣🤣
You forgot to say the city with 115 charged (now 130) between them 🤭
@@mTLpHfumfaomd who will prob get away with it lol
Liverpool is far worse. @@ppate8
His PR did the free dinners
Bournemouth have better players and a class manager they have stood by. . Considering he lost about 9 matches when he came in ...great to watch ..gazzgooner...
I think we have to focus on fighting relegation than fighting for top 6 which we couldn't even in our dreams 😢
Pajeet spotted, dont poop on the streets of Europe like you do in your deprived tikka massala country
PLAYERS WOULD DARE DO THIS TO SIR ALEX ....
Roy did.....
Becks did his ting
Why was stam gone?
Loads of players did it b4 aswell......
All this "bigger than the club" fart talk....
Any human will defend themselves no matter who they work for....
Havent people who work at THE PALACE spoken out.....
If u work for BT u can talk
If u worl for H&M....
Dnt matter who the company is..... they need to respect their workers....
Dislike that clubs wana act like they big time..... same way a play can break a leg and bbye bye goes career....
There are clubs that are no longer in business.... so much for "club bigger than the players"
Im sure ex bury players are playing at other clubs today...... so where they bigger than the club coz they still standing.....
Club should respect their workers and workers should respect the club ......
I'm a Chelsea fan. We were in United's form uncomfortably not that long ago. But the fact of the matter is that United's team is not good enough to wear that jersey. (There are some people on Chelsea's roster who shouldn't be there either, but we're sitting in second.) The only player who is worthy of that jersey is Bruno Fernandes.
Garnacho, Mainoo, and Diallo are young talismans that need to be integrated slowly into the team and learn from veterans, not being the ones you're hoping to win you every game. Rashford is an unfulfilled prodigy because the team never had world-class veteran wingers/forwards for him to learn from.
No need to waste words on the other players. They should all go out on loan or be sold and United need to build a proper Top 4 team.
Well said.
Rashford has the talent but refuses to use it, like so many players today he appears to spend more time at the hairdressers, tattoo parlour and watching his phone than learning to improve their game and do what they are overpaid for and what the fans expect.
Keown actually talking sense about Marcus in terms of his stance
how much do these guys cry about Man Utd.. its so boring.. every day the same thing again and again and again and again.
Man utd can help that by not losing 3 nil. Last week all the talk was of how bad Man City were.
Paying 350+K per week to an average player just to not let it go to another club is a big mistake..If El flopo comes to my office and says ''Boss me wants more dough or me leaves'' I would say ''Wait a min. me calls taxi for you now'
The team selection against Bournemouth yesterday was questionable again that has contributed to the loss.
The team should have been: Onana, Maguire, DeLigt, Martinez, Malacia, Casemiro/Bruno, Ugarte/Mainoo, Mazraoui, Amad, Hojlund.
Subs: Bayindir, Yoro, Evans, Dalot, Amass, Eriksen, Gernacho, Zirkzee & Antony
We expect an home win unfortunately Amorim chose a team that showed tideness.
Amorim was at fault again & has No Excuse cos he should have carried on from where Ruud Van Nisteroy left off.
We're now 11 point down from where we should be cos we already have the players to choose from!
What a terrible team that is though. 8 or 9 defensive minded players and barely any pace between them!
@languageoffootball That's not the point, the objective is to pursue a top 4 place with minimal fuss cos we have the players to choose from, due to poor team selection we are 11 point down from where we should be, out of a cup competition in 1 week, Joke Thing Right so Amorim has to take the blame!
When Van Nistoroy set the momentum it should have been an easy ride for Amorim but his drastic changes has caused the problems we're going through right now cos it should have been a gradual process towards top 4 with the squad we have!
@@bryngefferies7530 negative play doesn’t tend to achieve top 4 these days. RvN had a mini honeymoon. Doesn’t mean he’d have carried on. Those players don’t become good players overnight!
Why FA didn’t cancel the game between Everton and Chelsea ? There was a horrible wind and heavy rain. The players couldn’t perform their set pieces because of strong wind the ball was rolling all the time on. I couldn’t imagine in what condition the pitch was too. And why Robinson after red card he had got on previous game against Fulham come up on the pitch.
This might be the most controversial opinion but I think some of these high wage players with the limited abilities that they possess are trying to get the manager sacked at the earliest, they know that with these inflated contracts they will not find a suitable club after this once the contract expires, at least not with the same wages that they are earning here.
I agree with the fact United are not good enough and deserved to lose but honestly the overaction here is laughable again from the clickbait masters. In both games United have created more changes, which is shown by the stats as well.
That tactical analysis by Keown was truly woeful
I'm a United fan. I'd rather see the club get relegated if I can see half of that squad gone. The players are simply not good enough.
United are bad but what game did Simon watch when Tottenahm played United? Tottenham were terrible apart from 15 minutes after half time when United had a meltdown. Then Tottenham had a metldown. That was a clown match and I think it flattered Tottenham more.
They played similar vs Liverpool and got torn to shreds until Liverpool scored so much they couldn't be bothered anymore.
Simon you are sick to say the game against Spurs could have been 6:0, I bet you didn't watch the game
Smell the coffee, not the roses. He's been smelling the roses all this time.
Man United need to get real. Get rid of prima Damas. That is 60% of the players. No effort no movement. They all watch the ball then its to late. Most out of shape. Get rid of BRUNO and Erickson and casimero too too old for midfield. Same for defense. Shaw, landerlof, McGuire need to go to lower division where they can walk around the pitch
*Martin Keown* doing his homeworks. The lad is getting his Phd in Journalism😂😂😂 Give him a break for God sake.
I'm wondering how Simon hasn't made this Arsenal's fault.
Aromin will be sacked soon joke manager for a joke club hahahaha
Is that what your daddy told you?
Tony your a joke 🤡
It's "you're" ya silly wee Diddy 😂👍@@tommills9575
Mr. Jordan. I'm contesting your comments. In every match but one with the new manager they have had more possession. Against Bournemouth , United had 23 shots (11 on target) Bruno Fernandes had 3 glorious chances, Amad 2 great chances, Garnacho missed a one on one. They could and should have had 4 or 5 goals. Bournemouth had 4 shots on target and scored 3. Yes, the defence was poor but United had enough chances to win. Against Spurs the 4th goal of theirs would have been cancelled with VAR and at the time Spurs were desperately trying to hold on. United will come good as the season goes on and getting rid of the big ego's will help ( and we all know who they are)
The problem at Manu is less about the manager and more about the directors and the scouts. Take Rashford as an example. He was never going to be ManU's number 9 that was ever gonna wion them the league and several managers did not play him regularly, even Mourinho stated he's not as good as people think he is but being home grown he always got good press which in turn influenced the directors who refused to sell him. I said a few years ago that if I was his team mate I'd be livid with all the non-football side-jobs he had going on, some only for the PR, when he did not perform on the pitch. Beckham was similar but always performed on the pitch.
And the Glazer’s have ran United into the ground like Simon Jordan did to Palace, that’s why he loves them so much .
Average players in a big club and managers who can't get the best in them too many different ways of playing and it's inconsistent
Manchester United is shite 😂
😂😂😂😂
How long will the red media keep spouting the nonsense that Rashford is super talented, the lad is and always has been bang average.
Known was bang on for the first time on Rashford
Before ETH getting sacked he fixed our defensive issues. Now look
soon as i saw martin with that gesture, i knew this was gonna be a bomb clip. lololol .... "nothing" ... lol
Home in? It’s HONE IN, lads
Its not rocket science--the players are simply not good enough. End of! You could put any manager in the dug out with this squad and the same will happen.
They buy 2nd rate players for ridiculous transfer fees with even more ridiculous contracts.
Amorim said there will be pain!
What’s Martin reading ffs 😂🤡
I hope to god he gets rid of Onana. Can never count on him to make a world class save or keep you in the game. Absolute dogshit of a keeper. No urgency in him getting the ball out either. Our second keeper is also shite.
As a Liverpool fan i can only DREAM of the money given to successive UTD Managers compared to Liverpool ones !!
Liverpool do they just don't need to spend bad or big, we are shite because our money went on below average players on long term contracts. Liverpool are smart and only spend and know how to spend it united splash it out like free candy
It is funny how Jordan smirked at Keown’s tactical analysis. As if Jordan knows anything better. Ask Keown about playing football and Jordan for making money except Jordan lost millions £££😊
I finally agree with MK😂😂😂😂
Emery took us from 17th >>> 7th… I’ll leave this here xxx 💜💙
United need to shift the squad they have, and give this guy three years to get it together.
Amorim is surely not a better coach then ten Hag.
As bad as I’ve ever seen the moments aren’t working.
It's not the manager. United 0 Bournemouth 3 under ten Hag. 0 3 under Anorim. It's the club. The poor finance. The rip off prices and overpaid second rate players. The fans still expecting Alex Ferguson levels of football that haven't been seen since he left.
Rashford has taken the piss and devalued himself just as sancho did , he will go on loan then on the cheap and keep his wages , , he looking after number 1 , these guys should have profomance related play in contracts , no way he should be getting his 350 a week after this stunt , ps I’ve always been a fan of him
Utd are going to have to take a massive financal hit come this summer.
Not only are they going to struggle selling most of these players, but they are also going to have to pay significantly over the odds as everyone knows they will be desperate.
I don't think we will overpay for anyone nomatter the circumstances just like last summer where even the prices were quite decent. That's one reason Ashworth got the sack btw.
well said 👏 👌
Bournemouth weren't magnificent. They didn't need to be. Just like how they beat Spurs at a canter, a well coached team such as Bournemouth doesn't even need to get out of second gear when they're up against teams coached by absolute novices such as Postecoglou and Amorim.
HEY JORDAN. AREN'T PALACE RUBBISH? 🤔 GETTING STUFFED BY ARSENAL TWICE IN THREE DAYS 😄
Amorim is sett I NG himself up for disaster, the players are not quality and can't adapt to his system.United are 13th I can't see them improving
Super Lordship Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Wasn’t in the game against spurs ffs 😂😂
The club itself is rancid.
Can preach about the long-term project & process all they want to, but United should never be losing 3-0 at home to Bournemouth, & so fast forward 12/18 months during a similar slump, the same lot who were calling out for Ten Hag, Ole & Jose to get sacked will be calling out Amorim to get the boot too I bet!
This club needs to add star quality that will walk in as early as January & carry the team to at least be more competitive, help win more matches and ease the pressure!
That's what you have been doing for the last decade. Throw money at the problem. Even in your worst hour you want to continue doing that, which has failed. How about getting decent players and coaching them properly. Coaching doesn't seem to be part of the ethos of United and there fans
@FitzroyGeorge-c4h A lot of these players simply aren't good enough, aren't young enough, or just don't have the attributes to come good under Amorim, & so we need new players to salvage at least some sort of respectability this season! A new addition with an immediate impact similar to when Bruno first joined in the January window under Ole is a must! A new LB as early as next week would obviously be an upgrade and improve on what we have!
A club as big as United simply doesn't allow for Amorim to be losing at home to Forrest & Bournemouth with such resignation! The allowance for time on the training pitch to develop and improve is still dependent upon the results at the weekend for the players to buy into it!
They are Rubbish
Imagine being as desperate as Keown and hoping that Arsenal win a league title again 😂 21 years since they last won the league....never won the Champions league and he thinks Arsenal are a top European team....
Embarrassing 😂 😂