AR Wing Pro (not just another review :-)

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  • Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
  • I've updated the planes setup (with new FC) and some great Cam-Mounts here: • ARWing Pro one year la...
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    ►Tips for the plane:
    CG 85mm (Stall test: do it in ALT!!! it spirals and you loose ~30m)
    easier handlaunches with slightly REAR CG? but better (more stable) flight with slightly FWD CG. Or just stick with the stock 85mm!
    3300mah Lipo (346gr): 136gr in nose
    7000mah LiIon (409gr) + Gopro7: 25gr in the back
    set motorbrake to MAX:
    start ESC with FULL THROTTLE (without prop)
    wait for music, then first beep (brake) go MIN THR. and MAX THR again
    here wait for 4 beeps (max brake) and again confirm with min/max thr.
    PNP Setup is good - 8x5 Prop - dont change it to an folding prop, use motor brake setting for less chance of breaking your prop on landing
    Elevons: 2-3mm up from the wingroot (reflex) if the CG is at stock 85mm
    maybe a slight bit more for maiden launch to help you!
    ►INAV5 for Matek f411 wse:
    Target: MATEKF411SE_FD_SFTSRL1
    S1: Motor
    S3: Left Servo
    S4: Right Servo
    UART1: GPS
    UART2: CRSF
    SoftSerial1: DJI OSD (RX=LED, TX=ST1)
    ►►INAV CLI important setting:
    set init_gyro_cal=OFF
    (There seems to be a bug in iNav 5 where the initial calibration after booting causes sa write operation. if you unplug it too soon, this could reset your FC to defaults?)
    Motor Beeps but doesnt work?
    motor beeps slowly: no signal (or motor outputs are disabled in INAV!)
    if it beeps quickly (if activated), this means throttle is not at 0% - ESC needs calibration (not via remote, but via the Motor slider in INAV config)
    iNav flightmodes:
    NAV CRUISE (course hold + alt hold)
    ACRO (if nothing is selected!) RATE mode - helps against the WIND!
    MANUAL (Passthru)
    RTH Settings:
    nav_rth_climb_first = ON
    Maximum altitude since launch (NAV_RTH_MAX_ALT)
    Autotune flight
    Fly a few rounds with enough ROLL and PITCH movements. DON'T Start with AUTOTUNE mode activated (I nearly crashed because of this!)
    Important: after landing, DISARM, then move both Sticks BACK and OUT to SAVE!
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    00:00 Intro
    00:45 unboxing
    03:06 aileron CF spar glue fail!
    04:09 build finished, overview easy setup
    05:45 maiden launch (crashes in slowmo)
    07:56 maiden evening
    09:24 FPV flights, stall test
    10:47 more flights
    12:44 Gopro7 footage, chasing Sailplane
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  • @Rcschim
    @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

    Here you find HONEST reviews and opinions! If you wanna support this idea please check my PATREON: bit.ly/2ESMtIO or consider an EPIDEMIC account for great music (affiliate): bit.ly/3p6OGE0
    Superthanks is also an option (just sayin :) but youtube gets a good chunk of it!
    This is NOT my affiliate link: bit.ly/2ESMtIO (I dont care if you purchase this, but I like the wing!)
    ►iNav CLI important setting:
    set init_gyro_cal=OFF (There seems to be a bug in iNav 5 where the initial calibration after booting causes sa write operation. if you unplug it too soon, this could reset your FC to defaults?)
    RTH Settings:
    nav_rth_climb_first = ON
    Maximum altitude since launch (NAV_RTH_MAX_ALT)
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    @b14ckyy's Tech wing launch tutorial! ua-cam.com/video/m9AgBgys2PA/v-deo.html
    @Painless360 Softserial on Matek F411 tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/7TM9wGU41vo/v-deo.html
    @Olivier C great Fixedwing FPV Channel like: ua-cam.com/video/yMNENYcR2NI/v-deo.html

    • @typxxilps
      @typxxilps Рік тому

      Ask Ian from Mads Tech channel cause he had done that quite often before if I remember right, at least since the DJI red goggles had been released.
      Might work again for sure.

  • @dragonazzFPV
    @dragonazzFPV 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for the help, and the truth about your journey with this wing. This helps a lot. Hopefully it will ease my struggles!!

  • @GenicksaltoRC
    @GenicksaltoRC Рік тому

    Interesting airplane. Always a pleasure to watch videos from a different corner of the hobby and learn something new.

  • @wulfdean
    @wulfdean Рік тому

    Just another excellent video review, it's like you're got your pulse on whats good in fpv. I've been thinking about a wing and this is a great review on one thanks Mario.

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      thanks, there's more incoming (the Mars) - in the summer I'm more leaning towards wings ;) I will for sure have my copter phase soon again ;)

  • @KremerFPV
    @KremerFPV Рік тому +2

    Beautiful scenery Mario! I recently got my first plane but had to leave it behind when moving. I plan to get a new one and might be getting either the AR Wing or the T1 Ranger. Thanks for the video!

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      As a copter guy you will have a bit of a hard time, but at the same time it's a new challenge and fun!
      The t1 Ranger is sure also a nice one. Looking forward to see your adventures with planes! Greets, Mario

  • @Painless360
    @Painless360 Рік тому

    Thanks for the link to my video on the DJI setup. Happy flying!

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      Your welcome! The more I dive into inav or planes, the more I see how much you contribute to this scene! Greets, Mario

  • @HermyH66
    @HermyH66 Рік тому +1

    Keep the fixed wing content coming, much appreciated.

  • @xjet
    @xjet Рік тому +1

    Great stuff Mario... I enjoyed every minute!

  • @pedroabs1
    @pedroabs1 11 місяців тому

    Amazing video plane location thanks for the amazing footage👏👏👏

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  11 місяців тому

      Thanks, I will probably do an update video on the arwingpro soon! Love it

  • @HayBeseret
    @HayBeseret Рік тому

    great video !lovely wing

  • @LiftVector
    @LiftVector Рік тому

    Third time is the charm! Nice setup on the cameras getting those sweet angles.

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! The ARWingPro flies great with the new FC. Speedy F405 wing is really nice value! And Autolaunch is such an important helper! Especially on wings the hand launches are not always perfect...

  • @MrD
    @MrD Рік тому +3

    Nice Mario. Glad you got it in the air and had some nice flights.

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +3

      hey, I just watched your Autolaunch video! Super informative! Will follow your instructions there! Also this motivates me to fly with my little wings more (and get INAV on them). greets, Mario

    • @MrD
      @MrD Рік тому +1

      @@Rcschimthanks, I’m glad it was helpful. Yeah, you should definitely fly planes more. It’s great to experience more sides of the hobby. I’ve just started with quads. I’ve had one for ages, but it always had problems. So in the last 3 weeks, I’ve flown it more than since I built it in 2017. Looking forward to flying it and my planes tomorrow.

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      Copters are for sure easier to handle. The ammount of stability even in gusts and high winds is amazing - and the only downside of wings for me. Was flying high again today (below some heavy rain clouds) and it was calm on the ground, but up there it was shaking pretty bad. couldnt enjoy the trip that much. How much would you move the CG forward on the AR Wingpro? Does it help against this instability?
      At least I got it back in one piece and the landing was nice (since calm on the ground).

    • @MrD
      @MrD Рік тому

      @@Rcschim planes can definitely feel the wind. Though after a while, it's not too bad. I'll happily fly in quite windy conditions, as often there isn't a choice here. A calm day is rare.24 to 30 km/h winds are pretty normal where I fly. Usually the opposite too, calm higher up, and buffeting lower down due to turbulence created by trees.
      Marc @b14ckyy's Tech would be the best guy to ask about the CG on the AR Pro. I don't have one, only the original AR Wing and Mini AR. Both of those I fly with standard CG.

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      Hey, seen your Name in a lot of the INAV changelog lines. Thanks for your work!
      Autolaunch worked really nice! my wing flies better now, I think hard mounting my FC instead of the dual lock Velcro Tape also helped. CG is still stock and if flew just fine today. It also helped me to reduce the FOV on my DJI goggles. gone back from 100% to 90% view - so the shakes dont bother me so much... greets, Mario

  • @Chilternflyer
    @Chilternflyer Рік тому +2

    Mario, thanks for posting this. I'm currently putting my AR wing PRO together. I've got a MATEK 411 wing going in mine. I've got three of them all running soft serial for the DJI telemetry. I've not had any issues with any of them (INAV 3 /4/5)

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      I honestly don't know what went wrong with mine. Maybe the board is damaged? It worked fine, than I landed (no crash). Unplugged just the power from DJI so it doesn't heat. Set things on the wing, wanted to fly again and it never got osd again.
      Tried different things. Another DJI airunit on this setup, and this one in another setup.
      Anyhows....

    • @Caroline_Tyler
      @Caroline_Tyler Рік тому

      Like Chilternflyer - I'm using the softserial for DJI telemetry on my Nano Goblin, works just great! As for the AR Pro - nope, prerfer my AtomRC Dolphin.

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      @@Caroline_Tyler I don't know what went wrong there. It worked for 2 flights and then it didn't, without any crash or electric issue...
      The ARWing pro is fun. Don't know what it is - but I like flying those wings...
      The Dolphin looks really good (not the one of my friend tho - the one that crashed twice).
      I recently got the Mars - it's similar, but a bit bigger. Here all works (Matek H743 has enough real Uarts) :)

  • @ghafoorhussain6677
    @ghafoorhussain6677 Рік тому

    Oh this is interesting :-) nice one mate. I want to see more.

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      If it survives a few more of my launches you will Gaf! I will setup autolaunch and hope it is better than my manual throw ;)

    • @ghafoorhussain6677
      @ghafoorhussain6677 Рік тому

      @@Rcschim You want to get some tips from Bruce, he's an expert at "lobbing" wings :-)

  • @SzymonSays1
    @SzymonSays1 Рік тому +1

    I had the exact same struggles with this plane at the start. After abour 30 flights, I retired the ARW Pro and moved on to the Retile Dragon 2. Would love to see it!

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      I also have the MiniTalon with INAV and DJI on it. Maybe I'll fly that more.
      Today I flew it successfully but very wobbly in what looked like calm air on the ground (but heavy clouds - so maybe weird gusts higher up there).
      I saw Daemon42 flying the Reptile Dragon2 and loving it - I think he also had the AR Wingpro before that...

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      Autolaunch worked great today - take a lot of the scary phase of the start. Still helps if you know how to give it a good toss...

  • @k1ortia
    @k1ortia Рік тому

    Never had a problem with mine at all, just remember to get the CG right. Mine has been absolutely faultless.

  • @dsmandrewa
    @dsmandrewa Рік тому

    I made my crossfire nano and servo share a ground so I could have the extra pin for the rx/TX for crossfire

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations Рік тому

    Awesome flying and review, Mario!!! 😃
    About the elevator, did you run autotune? It should fix it pretty fast. 😊
    Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      Yes, I used autotune, but still in acro mode I have not as much throw as in manual. I'm pretty sure it's a setting somewhere.
      Once I almost crashed because I had autotune (for the first time), active on launch already. That was scary!

    • @MCsCreations
      @MCsCreations Рік тому

      @@Rcschim Ouch! 😬
      Yeah, I see... Either way, if I'm not mistaken, in acro you still have iNav helping you... I believe manual mode would be 100% with you. But I can be mistaken...

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      yes, acro mode helps you keep the orientation of the plane the same (and fight against external forces, wind...) manual is 100% passthru, that's what I use now on starts. I rather be the weak factor in this equation myself ;)

  • @axemanarbor
    @axemanarbor Рік тому

    Nice

  • @egtreadway4232
    @egtreadway4232 Рік тому

    Great video on this wing Thanks, I enjoy flying my ar wing pro too and now looking at the zoid 4s2p 7000mah battery pack, roughly how much flight time do you get with this pack? Thanks again

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! With the (now quite old ZOHD 7000mah pack) I flew VERY conservative 25mins in avg. but my calculations show that 45mins should be possible. So anywhere from 25 to 45 mins :)
      Unless you really reach for long distances, this is more flighttime than I ever need.
      on my mars 1200 I use the same pack and could confidently go very far with it.

    • @egtreadway4232
      @egtreadway4232 Рік тому

      Thanks

  • @TLK22
    @TLK22 Рік тому

    Nice video! Just bought this wing as my first one coming from quadcopters. Really nice detailed description but I'm curious and didn't find the location is that Germany or Switzerland?
    I have a drone with caddx vista that use the soft serial for GPS instead of OSD. Because GPS use less bandwidth then it works fine. I've read that using OSD on soft serial often stop working.

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      Neiter of these partly german speaking neighbouring countries ;) (ok it's Austria)
      I have given up the soft serial on this plane. I'm ok with using telemetry on the radio. for some things I setup alarms there and it works nice.
      Have 3 other working INAV controlled planes now with GPS and DJI - so the ARWing gets lesser flighttimes (see my fixerwing compilation video!)
      One tip: since the hand launch of the AR Wing can be critical (as you saw in this vid) - setup Autolaunch right away - since I use it - I never had a failed start again. So convenient!
      I will send you a seperate reply with the CLI commands with my Autolaunch values...

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      here's my Autolaunch settings:
      set small_angle = 180
      set nav_fw_control_smoothness = 2
      set nav_fw_launch_velocity = 150
      set nav_fw_launch_accel = 1500
      set nav_fw_launch_max_angle = 90
      set nav_fw_launch_idle_motor_delay = 2000
      set nav_fw_launch_motor_delay = 50
      set nav_fw_launch_timeout = 10000
      set nav_fw_cruise_thr = 1400
      set nav_fw_launch_thr = 1800
      set nav_fw_launch_idle_thr = 1400
      set nav_fw_launch_end_time = 3000
      set nav_fw_launch_min_time = 0
      set nav_fw_launch_max_altitude = 0
      set nav_fw_launch_climb_angle = 25
      set max_angle_inclination_rll = 550
      set max_angle_inclination_pit = 300
      save

  • @richardamiss7000
    @richardamiss7000 Рік тому

    Beautiful bird! Just a though that hot glue is typically not the best option for anyone living in hot climates :)

  • @dagobb
    @dagobb Рік тому

    yEEEEEESSSSSSSS!

  • @RS_
    @RS_ Рік тому +1

    First? Third time's a charm:) Glad it worked out nicely. But ive noticed that your motor sounds weird . Its not smooth, it sounds like its choking . Ive noticed it on i think 2 of your launches .
    Also if you ant to check my ARWing Pro setup, ive just uploaded my video. Happy Flying

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +2

      kinda ;) technically my pinned comment was first (but I got an unfair advantage I guess) Video took hours now to process HD (still 4k is missing). youtube is a bit slow today... how's your ARWing doing?

    • @RS_
      @RS_ Рік тому

      @@Rcschim Its too windy today here, so can not fly. Other than that all is good. Cant wait to take her for some litle longer range

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      same here too. next days are rainy. which is good in this drought - but not so good for us hobby pilots ;)

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      thanks, I will check your video. my autolaunch tests worked fine - today the wing flew really well. the only problem I had was gopro7 froze and didnt record a nice 25min formation flight with another AR wingpro... greets, Mario

  • @MRedwood82
    @MRedwood82 Рік тому

    How are you powering the Air Unit? The standard electronics that come with this indicate a 5v 3A BEC, which is not enough voltage. 🤔

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      Hi, the ESC also has a little red connector which passes the battery voltage - not the 5V BEC.
      You could also take the power directly from the balance plug of the battery or from the main battery cable... (just don't use more than 4cell packs with AIRUnit, or up to 6S on Vista)

    • @MRedwood82
      @MRedwood82 Рік тому

      @@Rcschim Excellent! Picked this setup for easy plug and play with DJI, and was confused when it seemed to be missing an appropriate power setup. Using a 4s, so that little red wire should be perfect. Thank you very much!

  • @AerialWaviator
    @AerialWaviator Рік тому

    Great flight and views once airborne. Looking to seeing more of this wing as you get it dialled in and tuned.
    Interesting elevon issues, first the control horns, then reverse programming. Thinking your first couple launches might have gone flawless if had caught sooner. There's always something, just a mater how critical. Since crashes included, we know this is an honest video. ;)
    Seems odd that DJI OSD not working. If you have spare flight controller on the bench, you could try verifying your Air Units data out, just to rule out bad wiring, etc. Is there a ground between the FC and the Air Unit? (or just Rx, Tx)
    With things powered off, you can use an ohm meter to double check continuity between FC and Air unit, just to make sure not a broken wire, etc.
    At 13:46, it appears this was your first launch with FC? Betaflight, or INAV? Think Acro mode will increase throws if plane is not level. On bench it appears to have less throws in Acro as plane is already level. See in reply to another comment, you planning to setup Autolaunch. This should be helpful. Autotuning is another that makes a nice improvement.
    Good luck with you iNav adventure, realize it's all new to you and are still in the early learning process. Would be interesting to hear an iNav review, from your newbie perspective, reviewing notes and lessons learned after have gotten comfortable with and tested a number of iNav features.

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      Just back from a flight under heavy clouds. The whole time I feared that it might rain soon - but I wanted a flight since the next days have a lot of rain as well (which is good for nature!). Still doesnt rain ;)
      The wing was stable at times - but quite shaky as well. Even in higher air. Probbably a lot of gusts under the cloud base? Not even Acro mode could help me keep in nice straight. Maybe my FC is too wobbly and therefore the stabilization doesnt work great.
      But the flighttime is amazing all the time. Got 25mins and it felt like eternity ;) due to the heavy shakes I didnt feel comfortable enough flying longer. Then I got one drop of water on my DJI lens and I was like: "OK, I will land now!"
      13:46 launch fail: It's INAV, my ACRO has too little throw - don't know why yet, better to start in manual mode.
      Not sure if we need another INAV guide video - but I will for sure share my findings (like here in the videos description).
      Autolaunch is definitly interesting, but it also scares me to trust the FC and software so much... greets, Mario

    • @AerialWaviator
      @AerialWaviator Рік тому

      @@Rcschim A good indicator of turbulence (vertical motion) under clouds is the darkness of clouds. Darker usually implies stronger up/down drafts, lighter (or clear) less strong. If cloud is of uniform shade, then less winds vs non-uniform cloud shade. Flying paths with least change in contrast will will minimize turbulence; as will flying above the cloud base level (in the clear). Having flown gliders/sailplanes, has been a good teacher of first-person experience.
      Like in a quad, you want your FC very firmly secured in a wing. Any 'wobbly' is BAD, just like wobbly sticks on a radio transmitter are bad. ;)
      A "what I learnt setting up iNAV" could be a valuable and insightful video, more so than a generic tutorial. Most tutorials are more general and don't discuss specifics in context of a particular setup, and why some deviations make from a typical setup.

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      Thanks a lot! Your experience with clouds is very welcome here! That day was VERY cloudy - lots of dark and bright clouds - so I asum - lots of turbulence. Also: had my FC on a dual Lock tape- that gave it some play. bad idea. Now it's firmly dualside tape glued in - hope it works better now. so many variables. But fun.
      Will think of editing an "flyingwings and INAV - what I've learned so far" video in a few weeks. currently I'm all in for wings (have 2 days off infront of me - so plenty of time to build and test stuff!
      greets, Mario

  • @penguinscanfly535
    @penguinscanfly535 Рік тому

    Maximum Altitude 120m!
    Buaaaahahahahaaaa!
    As allways großartiges Video👍

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      It's the wideangle that makes it look higher than normal ;)

  • @fpvkagge
    @fpvkagge Рік тому +1

    If u think throwing it is difficult. Try autolaunch in inav. Works great 🙂

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      Im a bit scared by auto launching the plane, but I will rewatch mrDs tutorial and have great settings on it and then this should really take the pain and anxious feelings out of starts.

    • @fpvkagge
      @fpvkagge Рік тому

      @@Rcschim it works realy good on mine. Never had a problem with it.

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      hey, I've setup Autolaunch now, wanna take a look at my settings? a bit nervous - but I guess it will work nicely!
      set nav_fw_launch_idle_motor_delay = 3000
      set nav_fw_launch_thr = 1850
      set nav_fw_launch_idle_thr = 1450
      set nav_fw_launch_velocity = 150
      set nav_fw_launch_accel = 1500
      set nav_fw_launch_max_angle = 90
      set nav_fw_launch_detect_time = 40
      set nav_fw_launch_idle_motor_delay = 2000
      set nav_fw_launch_motor_delay = 50
      set nav_fw_launch_spinup_time = 100
      set nav_fw_launch_end_time = 3000
      set nav_fw_launch_min_time = 0
      set nav_fw_launch_timeout = 10000
      set nav_fw_launch_max_altitude = 0
      set nav_fw_launch_climb_angle = 35

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      already tried it - works GREAT! with the right settings and also with a good toss, AL takes a lot of the problems away...

    • @fpvkagge
      @fpvkagge Рік тому

      @@Rcschim sorry for late answer. Yes it works great. Glad u had a succesful launch👍

  • @TheRoadtoGonzo
    @TheRoadtoGonzo Рік тому

    After flying quads and watching plane fpv videos like this one - the planes look liked they rock back and forth all over the place its dizzying, do they really look like this in fpv, do you get use to it?

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      Yes, and that's why I'm always torn between copters and planes. Copters have a lot of advantages. Easy start, landings, stability... but planes are more of an adventure to fly. Longer flights, sail back home without motor, feeling the wind. The sensation of flying is just better...
      To get used to the Shake: I reduced the fov on my dji goggles to 90%, tried to tune my settings better on inav. Am happy for calm winds to fly in ;)

    • @TheRoadtoGonzo
      @TheRoadtoGonzo Рік тому

      @@Rcschim thats good to know, some of that was what I was hoping for, particularly long flight times.

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      @@TheRoadtoGonzo Yep, looooong flighttimes. Yesterday I did another testflight (DJI Action2 on ARWingpro) and flew 20min then I landed - it already felt very long. Used 2200mah out of my 7000mah LiIon ;)

  • @nofluxgiven1949
    @nofluxgiven1949 Рік тому

    It's a good entry level wing. Molden foam wings from China are heavy and not very aerodynamic, and don't give you that smooth stable lift like custom epp/epo hybrids or even wings like crashtesthobby reaper with asymmetric airfoil have. Barely any bob in wind with those wings

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      got a pretty shakey flight in today (heavy clouds probbably weird gusts below them). Not sure if any wing would fly smooth there. but it's scary - constantly I fear that my plane will freak out :) this drives a lot of pilots back to the easy world of multicopters ;)
      The grim reaper looks nice for sure. reminds me on the ritewing zephyr. Maybe I will get a decent wing later...

  • @egtreadway4232
    @egtreadway4232 Рік тому

    I'm in process of building my 3rd ar wing pro, my biggest problem with these wings are the build in plugs on the wings which are good for servos, most receivers and vtx need 4 wires just wondering how you deal with this? My first 2 builds I removed these pins and just run cable but what a waste this is. Thanks for all your videos

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      Good luck for the maiden already ;)
      I was wondering the same (how can we use the 4pin devices with the nice 3pin built in connectors.
      I didn't have to use them since I have my Crsf and DJI quite close to the main fuselage.
      But I guess you could share the black wire with servos and get around this limitation.

    • @egtreadway4232
      @egtreadway4232 Рік тому

      Thanks for reply, I've build alot of wings but never shared ground or voltage pins I just worried about getting interference what a waste on these receptacles, without sharing it will be hard to remove wings for transport, maybe better to share postive instead of ground I'm just not sure? Thanks again

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      @@egtreadway4232 you really shouldnt trust me when it comes to electrical stuff ;) but I think sharing (common) ground is better than plus...

    • @egtreadway4232
      @egtreadway4232 Рік тому

      Ok I'll give it a go, thanks for your help

  • @WinstonSmith1984
    @WinstonSmith1984 Рік тому

    I think that you can use alcohol to dissolve the hot glue in case you make such a mistake.

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      Alcohol solves (dissolves) many problems ;) But it also creates some (few guys on our field drink and fly - always fun to watch, behind the security net).
      Seriously I will remember your tip for the next stupid build mistake I do ;)

  • @Platon_01
    @Platon_01 Рік тому

    Хороший английский, достаточно легко понять без перевода. Спасибо за ролик!

  • @lleston8927
    @lleston8927 10 місяців тому

    What battery did you use?

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  10 місяців тому

      On the arwing I use: either 2x 3000mah 18650 liion packs in parallel,
      One 2600mah lipo, or a 3300mah lipo. All 4cell. Change it depending on the hd cam I use (and I tried a lot ;)

  • @glacian79
    @glacian79 Рік тому

    Haha, easy mistake to make re the servo arms . . Amazing you got it to fly with a one handed launch.

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      Of course I double checked the controls initially. Later I reprogrammed my radio and wanted to make it nicer and inverted the servos for a cleaner setup, but forgot to also invert the ail mixers. Overhead launches are not an option for me, got an injured shoulder. With my long arms the discus toss works rather well, next up I will test auto launch to have an easier job ;)

  • @EnglishTurbines
    @EnglishTurbines Рік тому +1

    A 7 amp Lion pack and yet it still needs a GoPro on it to balance it.
    This is just one reason why I didn't buy it...It also bobs about in the pitch axis like all Chinese flying wings. As for launching it, well it's a lottery at best.....Fun watching quad boy fly a wing though....lol...🤔😳😀😀😀🇬🇧🇬🇧

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      you could argue that it's designed to fit a gopro there...
      I already heard good things about the grim reaper or similar wings, and they cut nice thru the air?
      The launches just need training. on the last crash in this vid I was too sloppy - had a few succesfull ones prior and felt too secure ;)
      now I setup autolaunch and hope it helps me. mounted the FC better (so less wobbly) and did some PID tuning.
      Also I think about makeing my DJI goggles view smaller (70%) so the wobble around from the wing doesnt freak me out too much...
      Do you have a recommendation for a next FPV plane? good wing? reptile dragon2? Mars, dolphin?
      greets, Mario

    • @EnglishTurbines
      @EnglishTurbines Рік тому

      @@Rcschim Hi, well there are so many bad Chinese wings around. If you're determined to get a decent one, then the small Z84 takes some beating. I used iNAV Autolaunch on this and it never failed, ever. It does have hand holds on the CG which helps launching. A bigger version was made. Availability may be a problem now though. I'd just stay away from Chinese designed wings altogether....🤔😳😏🇬🇧

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      but you don't talk about the zeta wing z-84 (which looks very much like a chinese wing)?
      as a next plane I look at the MARS - looks like a spaceship. Maybe it's a bit better in the wind... Lee (painless360) did a review a few days ago...

    • @EnglishTurbines
      @EnglishTurbines Рік тому +1

      @@Rcschim Well, the Z84 flies really well is the obvious difference I guess. There are a ton of videos of this little bird flying Autonomous Missions and rediculous distances too...That Mars wing is stupidly expensive for what it is IMO....🤔😳😏

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      @@EnglishTurbines Thanks, I will research the z84 the for the future. Dont care if it's small, dont need a gopro, could live with a peanut or just the Airunit.
      Mars is currently on sale in a nearby warehouse (so it would be fast shipping) and it's 160€ (I heard that it was also sold for 300€...)

  • @sleepingbearffg5008
    @sleepingbearffg5008 Рік тому +1

    This bird is sexy.. I nav is fun to learn and if know betaflight then real easy. 👊👊👍👍

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +2

      Inav is really similar to betaflight at least for the user (the configurator). in many ways it feels more advanced (for sure with planes). will see maybe I install inav on a bigger copter and see if it works well there also...
      greets, Mario

    • @sleepingbearffg5008
      @sleepingbearffg5008 Рік тому

      @@Rcschim so much more you can do..was about to try my first flight's.. had auto lunch all set.. almost took with me.. wish I had.. so much one can learn. Start adding sensors. Make your dji bird 🤣🤣🤣 now do through your videos 💪💪👊👊

  • @derivas007
    @derivas007 Рік тому

    what is you favorit fpv wing?

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      normally it's always the last one I got ;) the ARWing is really nice (and feels like a "real" wing).
      I also loved to fly my FPV900 from techone (a miniracewing clone) for it's simplicity - but in a tragic crash it died ;) (see one of my last FPV Meeting vids).
      the dolphin is technically listed as a wing often - and it's probbably currently my fav. plane.
      anything really that has INAV and flightcontroller in it is good.

  • @JR-kk6ce
    @JR-kk6ce Рік тому

    Here in the land of the not so free such planes and flights are essentially out of the question due to new rc drone/ plane regulations. A whole industry and science has essentially been shut down in the name of security and safety. About the only thing that can be done now is to fly in relatively small circles at authorized fields.

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      Don't wanna promote to break the law, but I also don't want to see politics telling us too much what to do. Those new laws are bs...
      If you have a remote spot where nobody cares, who would stop you from flying? Just fly safe and enjoy the hobby, your country is huge! greets, Mario

    • @twerkintwinkie786
      @twerkintwinkie786 Рік тому

      @@Rcschim very true. Here in Montana, 4th biggest state, would have no issues flying. Simple as driving maybe 30 mins from the nearest town and it’s like you’re in the middle of nowhere. Great vids!!!🤙

  • @wraith657
    @wraith657 Рік тому

    I swear when I clicked on this video I thought it was Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is one of my heroes, doing the review. You sound just like him.

    • @sylaswojciechowski6895
      @sylaswojciechowski6895 Рік тому

      Its his brother Mario Schwarzenegger 🙃

    • @phdDotCom
      @phdDotCom Рік тому

      I suspect Mario is rather fed up with that comparison :)

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      It's ok Phil, in the past Arnie was just an action hero and not a very intelligent one. But now it shows that this man has great potential.

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      Get that a lot and usually answer: "get to the choppa!" But I guess it's not the voice, rather the accent.

    • @wraith657
      @wraith657 Рік тому +1

      You know the problem with a lot of the world these days... Is that even when it's a genuine compliment... People take offense and get up in arms. I can adore a newborn puppy even though it's stupid and imbecile and inexperienced in nature... And I can also love and respect a genius for their accomplishments and potentials and abilities. I'm not the judge who should love anyone or anything for what or how or why... But there are very few people on earth who achieved the things of those who I appreciate.

  • @BrunO-qt6vf
    @BrunO-qt6vf Рік тому

    Worst wing definitely no progress on the ar wing launch always risk...

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      Next up I will try inav autolaunch... it's definitly not the worst wing in my hangar. Don't know the first arwing.

  • @FrenzyIncarnate
    @FrenzyIncarnate Рік тому

    Hey Mario ! unfortunately its not iNav. It's INAV. Pawel will be mad 🤣 ( see watch?v=VZ6mQ-k8YHU).
    Jokes aside its a good wing to fly. Unfortunately overall wing's flight behaviour ( the wobbles - shaking while flying) does not make me happy so I never got into them. Thanks for the review

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the info, don't wanna make Pawel mad ;)
      I'm similar minded about the wing flight characteristics. But at the same time I love the long flight times and the FPV adventures... for my first flights I always ended up flying higher to have calm air. With more confidence I can fly lower to the ground, fast!

  • @ashmorereed1426
    @ashmorereed1426 Рік тому

    drive.google.com/file/d/1hSxIcu9pEQLm5PmQEO_bojjQDu3SREzg/view?usp=sharing here's a hand launcher for the AR wing if anyone wants it. It could probably be adapted to other wings - but the AR wing really needs one!

    • @Rcschim
      @Rcschim  Рік тому

      Hi, my buddy meant that yes, his cg was probably too far back...