How did The Burning Crusade Change World of Warcraft?

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  • Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
  • Part 2 of this series (hopefully with a title that makes more sense now)
    Let's look at what evolution WoW went under during TBC, and find out what new content was added to the game.
    Enjoy.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 699

  • @Jonra1
    @Jonra1 4 роки тому +473

    I still remember being sick and asking my mother to get me a copy from the store. She came back saying that game had costed way more than I had told her and she wasn't happy, but she had bought it. She accidentally bought me the collector's edition.

    • @TierHarribel
      @TierHarribel 4 роки тому +131

      best mom ever, call her and tell her that.

    • @cyclonic7134
      @cyclonic7134 4 роки тому +45

      Your mom is a gem

    • @Sports5561
      @Sports5561 4 роки тому +17

      I still have my BC:CE

    • @socio4206
      @socio4206 4 роки тому +19

      Wonderful woman m8

    • @andreaskarlsson5251
      @andreaskarlsson5251 4 роки тому +35

      I remember a guild mate of mine taught her mother how to start his PC and log in to wow for him so he was in the queue already as he came home from school. xD

  • @grahamlarsen6478
    @grahamlarsen6478 4 роки тому +424

    Still remember the first time i was just out and about questing in hellfire. My screen starts shaking, i thought my computer was acting weird...then i got squashed by a 100 foot tall demon robot. lmao good times times

    • @daketh4572
      @daketh4572 4 роки тому +11

      Graham Larsen I have no idea why in legion the felreaver wasn’t wandering the lands. They missed a trick there. There was one on a leash and that’s it

    • @rafaelrodriguez172
      @rafaelrodriguez172 4 роки тому +2

      Hahaha yeah dude and like the noise he makes it’s insane

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick 4 роки тому +4

      @Joe W Things that didn't happen.

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick 4 роки тому +6

      @Joe W TBC was "live" before the release date, you needed the CD key to play it, I don't know of any bug that let you zone into hellfire and farm mobs, also not sure why you think it was so difficult (that part really screams you misremembering or just making it up) it, you could do hellfire at 58 and the new skills you got at 62+ were not that much of a power increase.

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick 4 роки тому +3

      @Joe W You could do the zone at level 58, it was never incredibly difficult especially for a 60 with some gear, I did it on day one, you are misremembering it or you are so awful at the game that you actually think it was hard.

  • @cryssanie
    @cryssanie 4 роки тому +50

    For me the unrivaled thing about TBC are Eversong Woods and Azuremyst Isle. Incredibly atmospheric starting zones, to this day I often listen to the music of both zones for hours while drawing and it never gets old...

    • @FecalMatador
      @FecalMatador 4 роки тому

      Ten year old me had a blast farming copper in eversong to try and craft some rings

    • @ZacharyWhittall
      @ZacharyWhittall 4 роки тому +2

      they were really good starting areas that continued to set up your character for like level 25-30

  • @h2mza
    @h2mza 4 роки тому +74

    Best days of my life, no contest. I never felt that level of happiness ever again. 2007 best summer of my life, going to the pool or beach in the morning, pvp in the afternoon and raiding at night til 3am.

    • @thunderzproductions5474
      @thunderzproductions5474 4 роки тому +4

      2007 was the best year of my life. hanged out with friends during day then went home to raid at night.and did many all nighters during the summer.

    • @Cptraktorn
      @Cptraktorn 4 роки тому +1

      incredibly relateable, my life peaked with TBC. I just hope they don't mess up tbc classic like they did classic.

    • @Bloodhoven
      @Bloodhoven 9 місяців тому

      the year when kanye west became a globally acclaimed phenomenom... in a positive way... those were the good times.
      2007 and (coincidentally enough) 2017 were indeed two of the happiest years in my life. from then on it only went downhill with an increasing pace

  • @olalustig5397
    @olalustig5397 4 роки тому +140

    TBC had the most beautiful zones i was so stunned the first time i played it in 2007

    • @Lavabear120
      @Lavabear120 4 роки тому +18

      The sky was what mesmerized me all those years ago... even on a 15 inch CRT monitor, it still looked surreal :) I haven't dared to touched Classic because of work, but if they bring back BC, I'm coming back in the blink of an eye for one last WoW adventure

    • @zforzorro8956
      @zforzorro8956 4 роки тому +1

      @@Lavabear120 Yeah one last ride :)

    • @killerhippo10
      @killerhippo10 4 роки тому +3

      zangarmarsh, nagrand, and netherstorm were my favorites

  • @WhyOhWhyPhi
    @WhyOhWhyPhi 4 роки тому +239

    "the horde got a race that didn't have back issues"
    *slow clap*

    • @Kingmakerrr1337
      @Kingmakerrr1337 4 роки тому +15

      Male trolls looks like they just wanna end their own suffering

    • @ChuckS117
      @ChuckS117 4 роки тому +10

      I don't know. Female BE look like they have scoliosis

    • @Hifcrea
      @Hifcrea 4 роки тому

      Chuck lmao 😂

    • @Hifcrea
      @Hifcrea 4 роки тому

      😂 😂😂😂😂

    • @tacob0
      @tacob0 4 роки тому

      I remember how much the average age of horde players sank when they introduced them. every belf was a squeaker.

  • @Magictrickslol
    @Magictrickslol 4 роки тому +242

    No joke, the best years of my life was playing this expansion with my siblings.

    • @KalleLagerlof
      @KalleLagerlof 4 роки тому +7

      Best gaming experience for me. Quit gaming for good half way into wrath. Only that remains are the memories

    • @starcrunch8855
      @starcrunch8855 4 роки тому +9

      One day brother, one day we will have it back on offical servers.

    • @sarthari0n49
      @sarthari0n49 4 роки тому +9

      @@starcrunch8855 Even if they bring TBC/WOTLK back, it won't be the same.
      We remember those expansions because of what we did when they were current content (like Mage's comment), and sadly, there's no way we can't recreate that. (it's been 12+ years after all)

    • @mdougf
      @mdougf 4 роки тому +4

      Me too bro

    • @captauron4514
      @captauron4514 4 роки тому +4

      Same with me. I spent hours practically doing nothing and helping lowbies run through dungeons. I would literally eat my dinner by my computer doing absolutely... nothing. Those days are long gone. I tried getting back into wow back in 2010 during Wrath and I lost my drive. I thought about picking classic back up but, I'm just not feeling it. I use to listen to "All American Rejects" when playing WOW. Whenever I hear them, it brings back some very good memories.

  • @Noobie2k7
    @Noobie2k7 4 роки тому +90

    I remember the server i was on when TBC launched, everyone was there, like a good 200-300 people from all the top guilds. I was on a PvP server yet nobody was fighting, there was hundreds of Horde + Alliance there, and everybody was just stood there waiting. Until the portal opened and then all hell broke loose for hours. Since everyone was disconnecting when trying to get through the portal so many people just resorted to killing everybody else and it was absolute mayhem. Between the lag, insane amounts of AoE everywhere and disconnects it was a nightmare for everyone.

    • @mrillis9259
      @mrillis9259 4 роки тому

      The was PvP onmy PvE server waiting for the gate.
      Maybe we missed server only BG's

    • @Noobie2k7
      @Noobie2k7 4 роки тому +10

      @@mrillis9259 I mean PvP servers were super fun in TBC, i mean for the first couple months hellfire Peninsula was an absolute madness but that was what was fun about it, Burning Crusade did world PvP so perfectly. Sucks he didn;t mention that in the video.
      The fact it introduced Objective based World PvP, you had the 3 towers in Hellfire you could capture them and get a buff for the entire faction for rep gain i think it was, then there was the city of Halaa in Nagrand, that you'd have to fight the other faction coonstantly for control of so you could do the quests there to gain rep, use the special vendors, get an extra flight path in the zone, and also a region wide buff that gave 5% damage.
      I loved Burning Crusade PvP so much.

    • @johngraves9237
      @johngraves9237 4 роки тому +1

      @@Noobie2k7 I started on a PVP server and loved it!

    • @XRemARx
      @XRemARx 4 роки тому +1

      thats beautiful thank you for sharing

  • @ChairmanMeow1
    @ChairmanMeow1 4 роки тому +408

    The only reason I play Classic is some hope that BC will re-release. Pinnacle of not only WoW to me -- but of gaming entirely.

    • @solidale21
      @solidale21 4 роки тому +2

      Question? Do you play on Earthfury by chance?

    • @ChairmanMeow1
      @ChairmanMeow1 4 роки тому

      @@solidale21 Grobbulus :D

    • @rdpeach
      @rdpeach 4 роки тому +3

      Its very possible that releasing the BC expac will be the next step for classic

    • @iHitchiti
      @iHitchiti 4 роки тому +5

      @@solidale21 Earthfury REPRESENT

    • @kuzz1191
      @kuzz1191 4 роки тому +4

      looks like its coming :)

  • @Rave.-
    @Rave.- 4 роки тому +27

    Already ready for a TBC release. I absolutely love Classic, and always will. But I enjoyed what TBC added without changing how the game felt.
    I'm ready to stare in wonder and peace at Nagrand again.

    • @_Piers_
      @_Piers_ 4 роки тому +1

      A wise man once said "YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!" :)

  • @BladedAngel
    @BladedAngel 4 роки тому +63

    I never thought Outland was small. If you ground mount across the zone, as you would vanilla, you'd find each Outland zone is the size of 3-5 Vanilla ones. It's when you start flying there, does it feel small. And once flying came to Azeroth, this also became apparent, as you could beam through Elwynn in seconds, but not Hellfire.

    • @Rhannmah
      @Rhannmah 4 роки тому +10

      Flying was a mistake, honestly.

    • @daladirn5119
      @daladirn5119 4 роки тому +10

      @@Rhannmah Yea, it has it's ups and downs... I really like the current situation with flying being disabled for half of the expansion and being a convenience during the other half. I must admit, that I'm mostly a PvE player, so I can't talk from a PvP standpoint. It's mostly about the looks and feel for me in the outside world, but walking around and exploring given location for a year and then being able to see it from above is nice.

    • @Rhannmah
      @Rhannmah 4 роки тому +9

      @@daladirn5119 I don't even play retail, I went straight back to Classic after a 13 year hiatus with a couple days of free time at some point during Mists of Pandaria (I think).
      But that's one of the main reasons. No flying means you have to actually traverse and interact with the world. Classic feels huge, just getting from one place to another is literally an adventure. In a game about a fantasy world, this is really important. With flying mounts, the world feels MUCH smaller and less interactive because you just ignore most of it.

    • @daladirn5119
      @daladirn5119 4 роки тому

      @@Rhannmah Yup I guess I agree with all you've said, it does feel smaller and you have too little interactions, mostly with other players. Even though I said I'm not really a PvP person, I must say I enjoyed the off-hand enemy player encounter both in classic and on retail. There were fewer of those once retail had flying on again.
      As for the feeling of the size of the world... From my own experience with both retail and classic, even when flying was disabled, the difference in number of flypoints and the elevation of the area plays a big role. With more flypoints, the area seems smaller, so if you wanna remove flying, you'd want to lower the amount of flypoints as well. As for the elevation, you can create artificial feel of having to travel for longer, if you have to travel a winding path up a mountain as was done in Zul'Dazar in BfA, it lengthens your travel time making the zone feel even larger than it really is.

    • @socasack
      @socasack 4 роки тому +7

      @@Rhannmah
      There is a really easy and simple solution to flying...
      Realms that allow flying and realms that do not allow flying. That way "old schoolers" like you can "interact" to your hearts content. And those of us that do not want to waste 20-30 minutes of play time because we have to walk or ride across 3 or 4 zones can just do our thing and quickly fly there without effecting you in the slightest.
      Problem solved.

  • @h2mza
    @h2mza 4 роки тому +13

    Karazhan was so magical for me, I got so hooked. I could do it 100 more times and never get tired of it, thats what you call perfection.

  • @aleksadmitrovic6347
    @aleksadmitrovic6347 4 роки тому +18

    I never had that feeling with any other new zones, Outland will always kinda look so epic to me

  • @chriss6356
    @chriss6356 4 роки тому +19

    This was by far my favorite expansion! I don’t know if it is nostalgia, but I feel much more love for tbc than vanilla

  • @Klaital1
    @Klaital1 4 роки тому +82

    'Karazhan was 10 man and every other raid was 25 man.'
    Zul'Aman: 'Am I a joke to you?'

    • @Pure995
      @Pure995 4 роки тому +1

      Klaital1 kara was 25 aswell

    • @Klaital1
      @Klaital1 4 роки тому +18

      @@Pure995 No it wasn't, Kara was 10 man.

    • @highrish8045
      @highrish8045 4 роки тому +7

      @@Pure995 kara was never 25 man lmao wut

    • @xCivikx
      @xCivikx 4 роки тому

      I had a war bear on like 4 different chars

    • @jamesbaggett3655
      @jamesbaggett3655 4 роки тому

      3 world bosses too, which i think you could 40 man but im not sure if im remembering that correctly tbh.

  • @liamdalton79
    @liamdalton79 4 роки тому +73

    Wrath and BC did flying absolutely perfectly imo

    • @CopenhagenRayne
      @CopenhagenRayne 4 роки тому +16

      I agree, they were designed with flying being the end game content. Questlines and certain areas only avaible with flying made it so flying really mattered and wasnt just for convenience

    • @Metalton95
      @Metalton95 4 роки тому

      It made so much sense with end content being locked for people without flying mounts, and with flying mounts only being usable in those continents.
      Then again, "we" (the community) asked for global flying mounts, and we got it. Well, except for Ghostlands, Eversong Woods, Azuremyst and Bloodmyst isles.

  • @BryanCasella
    @BryanCasella 4 роки тому +14

    brings back memories. great video man.

  • @Toyhouze
    @Toyhouze 4 роки тому +4

    Zangarmarsh is just so beautiful, I stopped dead in my tracks when I walked in there back when I first saw it

    • @letzte_maahsname
      @letzte_maahsname 4 роки тому +1

      Agreed. Everybody's talking about Nagrand, but Zangarmarsh is really where the beauty's at.

    • @shadowwolf9909
      @shadowwolf9909 4 роки тому

      @@letzte_maahsname I love both, but Zang is only behind Duskwood for me.

  • @Corrupted
    @Corrupted 4 роки тому +13

    Quit a while ago, but I still watch a lot of wow content, great work man!

  • @orik48
    @orik48 4 роки тому +70

    Hype the TBC more! We need Activision to understand we want this.
    Great content as always

    • @Ryan_hey
      @Ryan_hey 4 роки тому +7

      I believe they already know. I remember when the classic wow devs we're doing a stream with Tipsout, Esfand, & Staysafe, and when the wow devs asked whether they're prefer TBC or Classic+, all 3 yelled TBC, even though they'r diehard vanilla players. Everyone knows it's just a path that needs to be traveled again.

    • @yannisv5380
      @yannisv5380 4 роки тому

      Nick Lifka THE THE BURNING CRUSADE

    • @meta1152
      @meta1152 4 роки тому +2

      Wowhead has a story that they are asking players how they would want to transition their character to a classic BC server. Im super hyped.

    • @thatonedude2550
      @thatonedude2550 4 роки тому

      i dont see why they wouldnt do this. classic was a huge success. it should be a no brainer for them to re release tbc. i personally never got to experience retail tbc so i would be just as excited to play this as any new game coming out. and im sure a lot of people feel this way.

  • @DrPluton
    @DrPluton 4 роки тому +4

    I spent my time during TBC completing quests, leveling alts, and raiding T4 content. I learned how to tank on my protection paladin at level 70, and I loved it. I learned how to be a better mage even if I stuck to frost. My first awestruck memory of TBC was the sky over Hellfire Peninsula. I also started playing a draenei shaman, but I didn't hit level cap on the shaman until Cataclysm.
    If they add TBC onto Classic, I'll drop everything for a draenei shaman.

  • @christopherwang5892
    @christopherwang5892 4 роки тому +6

    A portion of my childhood lies within this game, thanks WillE for doing the actual research to make the video the memorylane trip it is!

  • @Ayy.Its.Kruciall
    @Ayy.Its.Kruciall 4 роки тому +6

    Amazing boi! Just amazing! Captured the feel and nostalgia perfectly without being biased. Love it and keep up the amazing work my dude! ✌🏻🖤

  • @SkiSummer
    @SkiSummer 4 роки тому +81

    "Flying Ruined World PvP" - Translated.
    Flying stopped me and me 19 guild members from camping the opposite faction from getting into a certain area for 4 hours straight.

    • @It4int0ver
      @It4int0ver 4 роки тому +17

      Xerion wpvp was already killed in Vanilla with the introduction of BGs. BC had nothing to do with it. PvP was actually way better in BC than it was in Vanilla.

    • @It4int0ver
      @It4int0ver 4 роки тому +1

      Saatana no. BGs destroyed them. With a very few exceptions.

    • @paulblizzard5008
      @paulblizzard5008 4 роки тому +1

      @Saatana Yes he did and so did i.... And again because you clearly did not read his reply, BG's killed them

    • @Midaspl
      @Midaspl 4 роки тому +1

      The lack of PvP was going to be fixed by mounted/aerial combat in WotLK. A feature that never made it to the game.

    • @uber29
      @uber29 4 роки тому +2

      Sweaty neck beards that find fun in trying to make others miserable.

  • @Falcrist
    @Falcrist 4 роки тому +23

    Remember, kids:
    "I will not move when Flame Wreath is cast or the raid blows up..."

    • @ZanathKariashi
      @ZanathKariashi 4 роки тому +1

      Also Remember:
      Loading Screen Tip #27: Don't stand in the fire.
      Ah blizz, you trolls.

  • @dirufanboy1971
    @dirufanboy1971 4 роки тому +4

    One of my enduring WoW memories is arriving in Hellfire Peninsular for the first time and hearing that Fel Reaver war cry and wondering "Why is the ground shak - oooop, I'm dead....."
    Fun times.

  • @SonGChaNSaO
    @SonGChaNSaO 4 роки тому +8

    Jesus the amount of nostalgia this gave made me tear up!

  • @drewlad3626
    @drewlad3626 4 роки тому +31

    Kara was the best raid of all time, you can’t change my mind

    • @sleakseal2133
      @sleakseal2133 4 роки тому +11

      Ulduar

    • @ManDuderGuy
      @ManDuderGuy 4 роки тому +4

      @@sleakseal2133 it's a tie between ulduar and kara,

    • @fredriksk21
      @fredriksk21 4 роки тому +3

      I'll play TBC at re-release and one of my main goals is just progging heroic dungeons and then experiencing Karazhan once again.

    • @vonaclava
      @vonaclava 4 роки тому +3

      I'll never forget the first time entering black temple and building that late game progression to sunwell. Just unreal

    • @bw857
      @bw857 4 роки тому

      I didn't even play until mid wrath and I can agree with this

  • @asger9511
    @asger9511 4 роки тому +5

    I. Freaking. Loved TBC!
    I have always had a love for the wierder and more alien concepts, so when TBC released and i saw all the zones with their freaky fauna (Zangamarsh in paticular) i could not stop but fall in love with Outland. Even to this day, the nether ray mount is my favorite and Zangamarsh being my favorite zone.

    • @Ryan_hey
      @Ryan_hey 4 роки тому +3

      Zangarmarsh is also one of my favorite zones to this day. The Nether Ray is still one of the most unique mounts in the game...sure, the drakes are badass but drakes are so overdone by now, and their flying animation is actually only cool when gliding, otherwise it's just pretty boring in comparison to the nether ray.

    • @Bloodhoven
      @Bloodhoven 9 місяців тому

      yup... even to this day the outlands has some of the most beautiful and impressive zones in the game... even 17 years later I just can't get enough of those. and for a very long time (probably longer than I'm willing to admit) shattrath was my hearth stone for basically every class.
      the only thing that always bugged me was the english name for the outlands. I mean... yeah, it's the "original" name but in german it just had this extra OOMPH to it, acoustically AND linguistically: the outlands were called "Scherbenwelt" which means "world of shards" or if more "contextually" translated into english, means "shattered world of sharts" which, if you look at the map or the composition of the areas, especially area 52, literally IS a world surrounded by thousands of tiny to huge pieces of land flying around or simply floating there...

  • @Waacks
    @Waacks 4 роки тому +13

    I want this released again so badly!

  • @trueselfvibs
    @trueselfvibs 2 місяці тому

    I love your energy, King! As an old player trying to catch up, you're helping me immensely. You're reigniting the long-lost excitement and passion I once had for this game. I quit when I started college and never came back, but now, thanks to you, I feel like I'm falling in love with WoW all over again.

  • @samuraimalla
    @samuraimalla 4 роки тому +12

    Flying on WoW is one of my greatest gaming experiences ever. Traversing the world, no loading screens, seeing everything happen in real time, flying over other real-world player questing really blew my mind at the time. I understand people's criticism with flying but for me it was an amazing experience that will stay with me forever.

    • @xJigalox
      @xJigalox 4 роки тому

      For about 5 minutes until everyone sits afk in the air at endgame. "BuT pOlYmOrPh SlOwFaLl FuNnY!"

    • @Bloodhoven
      @Bloodhoven 9 місяців тому

      @@xJigalox seethe

    • @xJigalox
      @xJigalox 9 місяців тому

      @@Bloodhoven I don’t have to. I stopped giving money to blizzard a long time ago.

  • @kensavage7657
    @kensavage7657 3 роки тому +1

    Unlike some others, I really liked the atunements in TBC. They were a definite challenge to complete! Of all my titles, I love having the Hand of A'dal title - a little memory of when getting to endgame content was difficult!

  • @tobydogg4737
    @tobydogg4737 4 роки тому +52

    WE WANT TBC, the only reason im playin classic is prepare for TBC :>>

    • @tobydogg4737
      @tobydogg4737 4 роки тому

      @ThuQz i would cry

    • @FireKNG-vi9rm
      @FireKNG-vi9rm 4 роки тому

      me too

    • @orcminion
      @orcminion 4 роки тому +2

      Redman Law 99 tbc definitely topped everything.. as much as I love raiding in classic, that’s all that’s fun about it. Tbc was so much more refined

    • @orcminion
      @orcminion 4 роки тому +3

      Redman Law 99 tbc was far from casual friendly... most pugs could only really do Kara and za. The item difference between Kara and sunwell was enormous. Sunwell was harder than any raid in classic, aside from nax. And no I didn’t pvp much in vanilla due to how bad the pvp system is/was. It’s a system where you get rewarded for botting or afking, then your fear is obsolete after t2

    • @orcminion
      @orcminion 4 роки тому

      Redman Law 99 if you were good in tbc at arena you only needed to play 10 games a week to keep up.

  • @ludwighultin5858
    @ludwighultin5858 4 роки тому +3

    Man, loving how youre pumpning out videos willee!

  • @Jimmydeans
    @Jimmydeans 4 роки тому +15

    I played for 29 hours straight when TBC first came out all to be the first level 70 Belf paladin on my server.

  • @aylmao9045
    @aylmao9045 4 роки тому +16

    The fact that gearing up ur character at start of the expansion was in Karazharn, and playing catch-up was also in Karazharn + Zul'Aman later on (because of all the badge gear) was the biggest 5Head move Blizzard ever did, compared to what we have now where u replace ur gear from a World Quest every patch.
    Like come on, obtaining gear thro raiding as a PvE player will always feel better :)

    • @zarator7429
      @zarator7429 4 роки тому

      Yes but, at the same time, by the time you reach SWP, you can't expect guilds to stay healthy if they still need to have their fresh lvl 70 recruit have to run through Karazhan, THEN TK/SSC, THEN BT/MH. The fact you basically gotta do that in Vanilla is why we had so much guild poaching and death spirals back then. Ofc, I do think that bringing this to the extreme extent of "only current patch content matters", as it's been from WotLK onwards, is excessive as well.
      I think TBC struck the right balance between the need of SOME catch-up gear and the risks of TOO MUCH catch-up gear. BoJ gear was extremely limited before ZA came out, in terms of how many slots you could cover. And even in 2.4, most of the badge gear was very much outclassed for the sake of trying SWP - a tank wearing solely BoJ gear would be absolutely melted by Brutallus for example. What BoJ offered you was basically parallel upgrades to raid progression. People preparing for SWP from fresh 70, in 2.4, still had to raid Karazhan/ZA/SSC/TK to get there as fast as possible. BoJ simply meant that you did not have to get every single upgrade from there before being ready to move up to the next tier. And yes, I didn't mention Hyjal/BT because you could not skip this tier at all - BoJ T6-level gear only covered 2-3 slots for most classes, and you rly needed to be nearly full T6 BiS if you wanted to stand a chance in SWP (unless you were being carried by a SWP-geared farm group, I guess)

    • @aylmao9045
      @aylmao9045 4 роки тому

      @@zarator7429 well If u started late in Tbc, when swp was out, u were not suppouse to reach that, and most people didn't even care because If u started fresh u had so much shit to do. Also SWP at the time was really hard for most of guilds to progress to anyway.

    • @zarator7429
      @zarator7429 4 роки тому

      @@aylmao9045 True, though in the case of an eternal endphase TBC, such as on pservers, it's a lot more sustainable than Vanilla in the longterm. You don't need 6+ months to get a tank rdy for SWP like you would for Naxx

    • @CarKiller92
      @CarKiller92 4 роки тому

      @@zarator7429 We did that on a private server for 2 years, it was really enjoyable to run every instance in BT even when you outgeared it just to get the new guy or a few alts some shiny epics. If you enjoy playing together as a guild, it does not really matter if you are running gear upgrading instances or just lower ones imo.

  • @bjfrapp
    @bjfrapp 4 роки тому +1

    I stumbled into your Channel by pure chance, watched two videos and loved them. Going to watch many more later on. Have my like and subscription.

  • @Jarke
    @Jarke 4 роки тому +4

    quality video, thanks for this man

  • @GermanBoy00
    @GermanBoy00 4 роки тому +4

    The best expansion and the best game ever made. I know they say that WoTLK was the peak of WoW, but it actually owes it success to TBC.
    Everything was perfect: The class balance, the zones, the difficulty and complexity of the PVE content, the PvP was fine (although WPVP died, we still got with arenas a new form of fun), finally being able to afford a flying mount and fly with it felt like an orgasm.
    PS: I still have so many pictures of Karazhan in my head, so many beautiful and scary moments... god, this dungeon was a pure masterpiece.

    • @johngraves9237
      @johngraves9237 4 роки тому

      @@nfc14g TBC and WotLK were so much fun and I was a casual player, I have a coworker who raided 5 days a week.

    • @taylormalone2627
      @taylormalone2627 4 роки тому

      Classes werent balanced. People just cared less about being competitive on meters and arena like they do now.

    • @GermanBoy00
      @GermanBoy00 4 роки тому

      @@taylormalone2627 you obviously dont know what "balance" means

    • @taylormalone2627
      @taylormalone2627 4 роки тому

      @@GermanBoy00 you obviously have a hard on for tbc and make your own definitions to fit your narrative.

  • @inoox
    @inoox 3 роки тому

    These pictures/videos hitting me like a nostalgia wall made out of bricks. Man I CANNOT wait for tbc classic.

  • @1un4cy
    @1un4cy 4 роки тому +4

    I was so good at Gorefiend's ghost mechanics that my whole raid hoped I would get ghosted first and then brez me hoping I'd get selected more than once.
    And by so good, I mean the online minigame made to help people practice it is harder than the real thing because you can't strafe.

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick 4 роки тому +1

      The ghosts was a retard check, pray then the idiots in your raid aren't in the first 5 people to get it then the fight is easy, even with the practice you could do people still failed it somehow.

  • @mdougf
    @mdougf 4 роки тому +2

    Fuckk man, the feels. The feels. Ahhh, the good ol' days.

  • @sephiroth9691
    @sephiroth9691 4 роки тому

    watched so many tbc/wow expansion videos. this one right here was the first that gave me a real idea why it was so popular. very well made. very very interesting and enjoyable!

  • @heatrayzvideo3007
    @heatrayzvideo3007 Рік тому +1

    Spell power was my favourite addition. Questing as a healer was painful before

  • @Arxareon
    @Arxareon 4 роки тому

    Accidentally very nice timing on this video with the news of a potential TBC Classic in the works.

  • @Epicdps
    @Epicdps 4 роки тому

    Mad brilliant video mate, this is showing an example to 12 minute andy wow content creators of what hard work and research brings to the table

  • @Colabusken
    @Colabusken 4 роки тому +1

    Really great video and a fantastic trip down memory lane for someone who played this extensively back in the days :P. I'm all for flying btw. Got the Netherdrake on my main and I can still remember the incredible sense of achievement I felt!

    • @Bloodhoven
      @Bloodhoven 9 місяців тому

      same! love using them to this day, tbh. most of the other drakes, including the wyverns from wotlk, simply didn't hit the same way as netherdrakes did, and it wasn't only due to the way netherdrakes look (i mean... even those lightnings arund them resemble some effects from area 52 and shadowmoon valley in^^) but also the quest series leading to you finally being able to obtain one... you were literally BONDING to those dragons and their faction. why didn't blizz ever do this again? not even with the current dragonflight expansion?!

  • @daniel4640
    @daniel4640 4 роки тому +11

    Tbc was and still to this day the best expansion imo.

  • @unholytempest4288
    @unholytempest4288 4 роки тому +8

    The moment you began to ask about remembering the sound, chills ran down my spine. To this day, whenever I level through hellfire, I get flashbacks of my gnome mage getting squashed beneath the heel of the Reaver.

    • @jasonbullis4163
      @jasonbullis4163 Рік тому

      Every time I visit for any reason I stomp the 2 readers out of existence out of revenge. Then there was a wurm I remember but he's never arround any more

    • @jasonbullis4163
      @jasonbullis4163 Рік тому

      Reavers

  • @thatninja33
    @thatninja33 4 роки тому +6

    The replacing epics with greens, I will share my story. I was in a guild that started Naxx. We more or less gave up once BC was on the horizon and you could farm AV for HWL weapons. The only tier three was boots. I replaced those tier three boots at level 62 from a quest in Zanger Marsh. In my frustration I vendored those t3 boots. I may have also been frustrated that my guild more or less gave up on Naxx when TBC was coming around the corner (IMO) too fast after Naxx came out.

  • @Shagrath06
    @Shagrath06 3 роки тому

    Watching this while enjoying my meal and then heading to level my Paladin in TBC Classic. Good times!

  • @810wasaninsidejob9
    @810wasaninsidejob9 4 роки тому

    I remember lining up for BC, WOTLK and Cata at Gamestop. Bunch of nerds waiting in line, talking to the people around you seeing what they played, what server, what they were most excited for. Very nostalgic.

  • @Alex-os5co
    @Alex-os5co 4 роки тому +3

    So many memories WillE, very well put together and presented! Thank you

  • @Swordzo
    @Swordzo 4 роки тому +1

    I think the reason why people love TBC so much is because of the nostalgia factor. The fact that it was the first expansion to wow is what made it so special to everyone. At this point we've seen new releases of expansions countless times. I'd say each time a new one comes out it definitely doesnt feel as special as it did when we got it for the very first time. Like christmas morning being 6 years old as opposed to 16 years old. It's not that the xpacs are bad now (except wod) it's just that they arent as special to our hearts these days. Which is kinda sad, but it's super exciting being able to relive this experience all over again!

  • @HirachieOfSociety
    @HirachieOfSociety 4 роки тому +3

    Another thing you forgot to mention is our gear will be enchanted. Azuresong mageblade with 30+ SP will be replaced much later on than Nagrand. Wraith blade from naxx with 30+ SP will only be replaced in Karazhan/heroics.

    • @Bloodhoven
      @Bloodhoven 9 місяців тому

      not to mention that some of the legendaries were even used up untill T6-Raids, and in the case of Thunderfury being used on tanks sometimes even up to mid WOTLK!

  • @themrqwertymarkOriginal
    @themrqwertymarkOriginal 4 роки тому +1

    Great content as always WillE! Keep up the great discussions!

  • @Klimbo93
    @Klimbo93 4 роки тому

    Looking for Part 1 bro!!
    Great job, I was missing a link for watching more contenttt

  • @flashlord1311
    @flashlord1311 4 роки тому +3

    When BC dropped The amount of horde players doubled due to the blood elves. I was a dedicated alliance player back than and As soon as I saw the female blood elf paladins I knew I had to switch sides.

  • @Chebyran
    @Chebyran 4 роки тому +4

    lul. suddenly, it's my old video on 12th minute. it was really unexpected!

  • @Hifcrea
    @Hifcrea 4 роки тому +6

    God I can’t wait until classic TBC releases

  • @crispit5355
    @crispit5355 4 роки тому

    Fantastic content WillE! Keep the videos coming!

  • @pr0nGren
    @pr0nGren 4 роки тому +21

    TBC was the best xpack. it had everything

  • @romanmunoz126
    @romanmunoz126 4 роки тому +1

    Damn WillE, this video had me emotional. The memories, the nostalgia.

  • @Andy1119
    @Andy1119 4 роки тому +6

    I still remember being in Hellfire with my 100% non-flying mount and was attacked by another player, managed to stop the attack and mount up, I look back to see him on his 60% flying mount giving chase... Really?

  • @chaoticneutral1090
    @chaoticneutral1090 4 роки тому

    I would please ask for you to do a second part of this video that goes even more in depth like, class quests and stuff, just to give me even more nostalgia, but also looking forward to wotlk video, I have also now finally subscribed

  • @joy_divide3105
    @joy_divide3105 4 роки тому +3

    World PvP worked 15 years ago because the mentality we took when approaching a video game was different. Over the last 10 years, videos games have trained us, particularly RPGs and MOBAs, to identify and take the most efficient route toward our goal. My point is, flying did not kill world PvP and player interaction. Natural video game evolution and player development, whether through age or experience, rendered content like this more of an annoyance that valuable. These days we want to know that our time is being respected. Regardless of how world PvP is implemented, even though I enjoy War Mode, it will never be a successful addition ever again.

  • @crushendo8583
    @crushendo8583 4 роки тому +5

    I am maintaining hope they release Classic TBC. Arenas are amazing. Horde paladins. Flying. No more honor ranking. Karazhan. New abilities which all feel neat when added to classes. Hope we get there!

    • @Rabidus289
      @Rabidus289 4 роки тому

      Seen the video with the singer from Cannibal Corpse complaining about Elves and Paladins in the horde? It's brilliant.

  • @myv112
    @myv112 4 роки тому

    I remember when I pre ordered TBC, went to the shop, feeling the excitment growing up, enjoying this world. Good old days...

  • @lifeisoverated81
    @lifeisoverated81 4 роки тому +1

    The sound of that gd Fel Reaver will haunt my dreams forever.

  • @richpete
    @richpete 4 роки тому

    The first part of this bought back some strong nostalgia, it's nothing like back then but there's something extra exciting about a WoW release, even now.

  • @Jasonrm92
    @Jasonrm92 4 роки тому +1

    Honestly I love Classic. However to me, TBC is just a more polished/well-rounded version of Classic. I personally cannot wait for it. Good video dude.

  • @DaveTheGamer-detailedguides
    @DaveTheGamer-detailedguides 4 роки тому +3

    Cant wait for tbc it shall be a blast

  • @Apelgrandeur
    @Apelgrandeur 4 роки тому +1

    TBC was the only expansion I did not mind doing daily quests for. Perhaps it was the highlight of wow for me and that had a lot to do with it, but the daily's actually felt fun back then.

  • @clarioneversole9013
    @clarioneversole9013 3 роки тому

    I always leveled at a slower pace, in a 4-person group with family, and world PVP throughout the expansion and especially Hellfire Peninsula was an absolute blast. Our level 58 Tauren would be constantly underestimated by flying level 70s and we would bait them into attacking us by pulling mobs and then proceed to counter-gank them over and over till they gave up.

  • @Tom-hn5hn
    @Tom-hn5hn 4 роки тому

    I never got to 60 in vanilla but came back for BC and went hard on a level 70 blood elf hunter. This expansion for me was my greatest memories of WoW, I never really committed as much until Legion but nothing will beat BC!

  • @pacmanghostdude5227
    @pacmanghostdude5227 4 роки тому

    Great video and totally nailed how good TBC really was!

  • @bjrnchrstn
    @bjrnchrstn 4 роки тому

    Love the way you tell the story. Cheers.

  • @HootMaRoot
    @HootMaRoot 4 роки тому

    What so many ppl forget is you had to hear up in kara to do most heroic dungeons, before the Big heroic dungeon nerf. Badge gear caused a massive uproar on the forums but it made it better for new players to catch up gear wise but they still had to do all the attunements

  • @DJSLANKMAN
    @DJSLANKMAN 4 роки тому +1

    Loving the tbc content bro

  • @Helscribe
    @Helscribe 4 роки тому +2

    A bit off topic but you’ve got a good voice for radio and/or podcasts.

    • @WillEmmo
      @WillEmmo  4 роки тому

      ive always struggled with audio quality. Still not happy with it but thank you!

  • @romanlouis5805
    @romanlouis5805 3 роки тому

    The "horde back issues" got me off guard!

  • @oliviamoore3426
    @oliviamoore3426 4 роки тому +4

    Also I can’t wait for classic tbc servers to release. I haven’t played in ages. Will play the ever living crap out of tbc

  • @iwanabeawalaby
    @iwanabeawalaby 4 роки тому +10

    Tbc is MY definition of perfection

    • @mrillis9259
      @mrillis9259 4 роки тому +1

      I could do with out max level flying speed.

    • @iwanabeawalaby
      @iwanabeawalaby 4 роки тому

      I respect that. But in my opinion it doesn't change anything. The cost was so high that it made it possible only for few people.

    • @mrillis9259
      @mrillis9259 4 роки тому +2

      @@iwanabeawalaby lots will have it unless it's a play 100 days then move on, it needs to be removed.

    • @Xvs87
      @Xvs87 4 роки тому

      @@mrillis9259 Nah TBC was designed around it being in the game, and was better for it made the whole experience more awesome.

    • @starsareangels7
      @starsareangels7 4 роки тому +1

      I prefer wrath, but I started in BC, and barely had enough time to raid, I was more into PvP and I did some slight kara healing, as horde pally

  • @douglaspelin9062
    @douglaspelin9062 4 роки тому

    You got some good content man. Subbed 🔥

  • @mixplit74
    @mixplit74 4 роки тому

    Yea, your right on the raid epics not being replaced that fast. I was mostly in ZG gear with a few pieces of Onyxia and MC for slots I couldn't get in ZG, I didn't get rid of my Haruspex set until around 66 or 67 I think. A few pieces were better individually, but that was the point it was worth giving up my set bonuses.

  • @25-mohamedshukrilazammoham16
    @25-mohamedshukrilazammoham16 4 роки тому

    My first time seeing and stepping in wow was during early (not launched day) tbc..i remembered playing pala belf on my cousin's account and immediately got hooked..the next week i bought my own copy but it was the basic (vanilla) set..at that time i didnt know that i also need to buy the tbc expac if i want to play belf so during character creation i was furious becoz there was no belf on race selection.. I ended up playing a druid and it has been my main onwards...

  • @samivwow
    @samivwow 4 роки тому +15

    my only gripe with old expansions is that a lot of the older content just got ignored and you had no motivation to do it. Raids and Dungeons should have been all revisited after each expansion and re balanced so they are still in play and even if you join in TBC or Wrath, you would still have plenty of content. Loved Wrath, after that I gave up

    • @FecalMatador
      @FecalMatador 4 роки тому +1

      Cata was good imo. Raiding was pretty cool. Firelands was dope. Dragon Soul was garbage tho. And MoP was an expansion strictly for pvp.

    • @milannovotny7299
      @milannovotny7299 4 роки тому

      @@FecalMatador Yeah. My favorite is tbc, but cata was so good. I dont know why people hate it. It had good plot, great content, pvp was really well balanced. And early cata heroic dungeons were very hard.

    • @foulbred
      @foulbred 4 роки тому

      To me BC was the pinnacle of WoW but WotLK was the most popular. It just felt like a DPS race to me. DPS classes nuke with little to no repercussions in my experience.

  • @Adamaeus88
    @Adamaeus88 4 роки тому +1

    "Look at the floor to reduce FPS lag" - How I played WoW for the first 1.5 years

  • @mckdogdrums3543
    @mckdogdrums3543 4 роки тому

    The one thing I'd say I noticed about seeing my mates play BC was the level editors made the zones you levelled in very atmospheric. There was a certain aura about playing BC that made you want to stay in there and lose countless hours.

  • @TDoc89
    @TDoc89 4 роки тому +2

    great video! can you do a Class Tier video for pvp and pve in tbc? would be great

  • @steve_jackson9933
    @steve_jackson9933 4 роки тому

    the talk about upgrading epics right away was probably due to the very casual players with quest/crafted epics.
    I am all for flying mounts, if done properly. they should be a gold sink, which they were in TBC. I think once a person reaches max level, let that option be available, a person has already done most of the content after all. One of the greatest things about flying is, real life happens. When real life happens, someone is at the door or you have to go check up on something, you get on your flying mount and hover in the air for as long as it takes. it feels like no matter how few mobs are around you on the ground, as soon as you turn your back, you are taking damage. so, it is nice to just have that option of having a 'pause button' if you are only going to be away for a minute or so.

  • @mrillis9259
    @mrillis9259 4 роки тому +13

    Not too soon the original tbc was too soon.

  • @lotropug2320
    @lotropug2320 4 роки тому +3

    This is why I play classic currently, to be able to proceed into tbc and wotlk

    • @xCivikx
      @xCivikx 4 роки тому

      Im waiting for wrath
      Thats WoW's pinnacle imo

  • @tarron3237
    @tarron3237 4 роки тому +16

    .. and then it closes off with the Winterspring soundtrack, and I'm sorry to say: my heart will always belong to vanilla.

  • @gamersparadise743
    @gamersparadise743 4 роки тому

    i have a love/hate relationship with these videos looking back on WoW. this was the first and only video game i could play for countless hours. since the end of wrath i have been looking for a game to fill this void and have yet to find one. at this point it looks as tho there never will be one. sad reality but good times back in the day.

  • @archiei40x
    @archiei40x 4 роки тому

    Still my favorite expansion of all time. If they can bring the QOL, class balancing/identity, dual spec, gear progression style from WOTLK and drop it into the TBC, I can die happy.

  • @FunkyFrog7
    @FunkyFrog7 3 роки тому

    8 months late, but TBC is still my favourite expansion to this day :D

  • @abraxis7292
    @abraxis7292 4 роки тому

    I have such weird vivid memories of BC. I remember being forced into being a holy pally who was told to utilize cloth, leather, and SOME plate armor to be best stat wise to heal for dungeons 😵 I also remember my love for Zangarmarsh and Nagrande. Favorite area vibes ever.

  • @PowderedToastMaaaan
    @PowderedToastMaaaan 4 роки тому

    TBC was a very weird time for me. I had around 30+ RL friends that raided and PVPd with me in Vanilla. They all quit before TBC launch... so I played the entire BC expansion alone. To top it off, the game had such a strain on my relationship that I had to sneak it at night while my gf at the time (now wife) was asleep in bed. All that being said it's still my 2nd favorite expansion and I can't wait to NOW share it with friends through the legacy server!