Young Royals - S2E2 "Episode 2" - REACTION!
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I don't know if anyone's mentioned this, but if you remember back in season one, what really kick started Wille's and Simon's relationship was that horror movie night. They held hands and then kissed, and it's just something to think about, that maybe Simon was trying to recreate that with Marcus. The horror movie, the kiss. But you can see in his face that it didn't work.
Yeah..when he said he likes horror..i thought of that scene i season 1..
i didn't even realize that omg
About the "choose to live in an unconventional relationship". I am not Swedish, but I am Norwegian so I can still understand it. That is exactly what she said. This isn't one of those moments where you have to adapt and change the translation to be understandable to an English-speaking audience, it's just exactly what she said, and I had the exact same reaction when I first watched it.
I think the reason why Wille doesn’t see why 2 years is such a big deal is because he’s been thinking that him being with Simon (or just any man) would always have to be a secret for the rest of his life, so when his mom said that they could talk about it when he’s 18 those 2 years probably felt like nothing and I think that’s why he’s having such a hard time understanding why 2 years is a big deal for Simon, but for Simon or for any other normal person that’s a really long time. It all just sucks and I feel really bad for both of them but especially Wille, I just wanna hug him:/ anyways loved your reaction you’re such an insightful person and It’s really interesting hearing your thoughts on everything😇 sorry for the super long comment
Yeah true, he's lived his life in the system so 2 years sounds VERY reasonable. And thank you I really appreciate it ❤
@@HarryAllen9 Even if his mother and Wilhelm don't manage to agree on things in 2 years, it wouldn't matter because at 18 Wilhelm actually really has legal power in the Royal Family and can make his own decisions and take control over how he wants things handled. The Queen thinks that Wilhelm is immature and shouldn't be making big life decisions based on an unreliable teenage romance and a guy he's only known for 6 months. She doesn't think it'll last for 2 years, but Wilhelm is convinced it would and that they can prove her wrong.
You also have to consider that Simon is coming from a broken home, and I'm sure he saw his mother being disrespected and disregarded. He's probably not going to want to fall into a similar relationship. He wants to have some control over his life, just like Wilhelm does.
Ooooooo I never thought about that! Thank you for this comment
Agreed. Also, Simon runs his life and manages his family ( we see him tell his mom he is staying at Ayub he didn't ask he told her. Also when Sara acted up he told his mom to sit and he would deal with it. In addition, when the tape came out he didn't even call Wille he fully expected and was managing it on his own until Wille texted and said "We are in this together". I think Simon is just falling back into his habit of looking out for himself himself .. so not so much wanting some control but TAKING back control
I really enjoy your reactions and the thought that you put into discussing the show and the characters. I am right with you that at this point in the season it’s just super hard not to feel so sad for Wille and so sad that he and Simon can’t be together. It’s so clear how much they love each other and how “right” things are between them. I understand how each of them are feeling, and this season really seems to be about them needing to understand the position the other is in - because right now they can’t fully see that. I think E2 in particular was one of the harder/more frustrating ones to watch because of the misunderstandings between them and the movement of Sara towards August. Seeing Simon turn to Marcus in this episode even though he didn’t seem to keen on getting together with him again after the karaoke was hard to watch. Simon seemed to want to recreate some of his horror night experience that he had with Wille in S1. Just like he did then, Simon initiated a kiss, but whereas the chemistry and tension between him and Wille was so palpable, he didn’t have that with Marcus. He and Marcus aren’t on the same page, since Marcus seems to really like him and wants something more serious to develop between them when Simon really just wants a distraction. As a whole it was an interesting season, so I’m looking forward to your reactions to the rest of the episodes.
as a swedish speaking person, the translation is correct. she did say “if you are the first in our family to choose to live in an unconventional relationship”
While Marcus seems incredibly reasonable on the surface he shows signs of being quite controlling towards Simon. Like he's engineering Simon into how he wants him to behave in their relationship. An early sign was how Marcus conjoled him into doing karaoke and picking the song they sang. Looks jokey but Simon literally had no say. Here, Marcus blocks the idea of them just having a hook up but at the same time manoeuvres Simon into doing what *he* wants to do. He could just let Simon leave and meet up with him another time but instead Marcus keeps him in place. So far everything has been on his terms. Simon is in such emotional limbo he's let Marcus take charge and unwittingly relinquished control of his own actions to a guy he's barely known a fortnight.
Yes, and Simon did NOT consent to be in an emotional relationship or even a potential emotional or romantic relationship with Marcus, but was manipulated into one anyway. Marcus never asked Simon if he wanted that - probably because Simon would have said no. Huge red flag.
19:42 My little ace heart broke a bit when you said that 🥲
Your reactions are great ! I love the way you see things and can interpret the feelings of the characters. It is very accurate:)
Awww thank you I really appreciate it ❤
Regarding Sara being autistic:
In the scene where Simon gives her the present and she says that they could return it, I think she was actually trying to cheer him up a bit, as to say "Hey your gift is not completely useless, we can still get the money back". Because the second pair of pants would likely not get used when she has another one that's even better. Obviously, it wasn't taken that way by Simon.
A lot of people judge Sara for her behaviour, but I can often understand where it's coming from, being autistic myself. I wouldn't act the way she did, but I understand her intentions behind it.
And I'd like to add some info on autism:
Primary symptoms of autism are: fixations, abnormal/flat speech, sensitivity to sensory impressions, social difficulty, anxiety, abnormal posture, poor eye contact, tics and fidgets, agression, depression. The intensity of those symptoms varies in every autistic person. Also, autism may show differently depending on whether you were diagnosed early on or maybe not at all. And mostly, you can't determine easily if a person is autistic because of autism being a spectrum and masking (meaning to conciously or unconciously supress natural autistic responses in order to fit in).
On the term "Asperger's": Asperger's is no longer being diagnosed, it's just ASD (autism spectrum disorder). And the term Aspergers trails back to Hans Asperger who was a Nazi in the Third Reich. He decided if an autistic person was "functioning" enough. If so, they were diagnosed with Asperger's, if not, they were killed along with many other disabled people. Because of that, I was kind of dissapointed that the show used the term Asperger's and not autism. The term is still used today to be like "But you're not like, really autistic, you just have Asperger's" because autism is still being perceived as an isult or a bad term in general.
Omg thank you for all the info!! Really appreciate it ❤️Also that makes so much sense now, I was wondering why it had been so long since I had even heard the term Asperger's
Don't apologize for pausing, I love when you pause and comment on what's happening! And your thoughts are always really deep and interesting, so keep going!
'you know it's a sign of a good show when im pausing every 2 minutes' the way i felt that line with my whole heart and soul
as always a wonderful reaction, love all your thoughts, thank you for the video💜💜🫂🫂
12:22 from a Swedish person: while there’s a lot of moments in this show with bad translations, this one is very much correct
''August.. the bloody bastard'' Harry hating on August.. kills me every time😂 maan..
really love the insights you have/ give on the show ❤
Yes, the Queen uses "choose" in Swedish, as well.
Thank you for your reactions!
Great reaction/review Harry. You pointed out so many great things that made me go, yeah... that's right! - Can't wait for your thoughts on episode 3! Love from Germany
Harry I love your reactions! Some people react more with their heart some more with their head . what I like about you is you react with 100% of your whole being and soul always! ( please consider reacting to wtFock AKA Skam Belgium.) Thanks again.
Hi Harry, your reactions of this show are one of the best out there! Can't wait for the next one (and yes, the weekly rhythm is not enough!!). You are very considerate and empathetic (and it doesn't hurt that most of your thoughts align perfectly with mine, when it regards the depths of all character's souls) - it really brings me great joy to watch you... 🤩 There will be some more sadness and heartbreak to go through before it gets better, but then it will be sweet and rewarding.
I also would love for you to react to WTFock Skam Belgium (Season 3) and to my newest obsession: The Bastard Son & The Devil Himself. This last mentioned show still seems to be widely overlooked, but it is just fantastic and I have to promote it as often as possible so we may hopefully get a much deserved 2nd season!
Great reaction. I feel since season 1 mostly for Wilhelm..he is so lonely..this show is so brilliant 🙏🏻
I'm so fast that I feel like i'm stalking 😅
U a real one hehehe ❤
Yep, the right word is indeed choose in swedish as well, as if he is choosing to love Simon.. The mother really pissed me off this season..
i love your reactions to young royals so much!! ❤
You're the first reactor I notice actually making the conversion to their currency, thanks for that! And you're right, it's not a lot of money for an adult, but for a teenager from working class, definitely. Also, you are in the beginning of the episode that she had 230 kronas left in her account, so no, she can't just toss a couple hundred for a friend. I honestly think the other girls would totally understand that though, but I also don't think they'd realize it without her having to say it out loud.
Your reactions to young royals are amazing! Cant wait to see your thoughts on the rest of the season ❤
Hi, always Always love your reactions Harry! ... and, yes, Young Royals is So freaking GOOD that it's easy to get invested in. As you watch it though, remember that it's more than one episode and another. This is a journey, a really nuanced one for these complex young human beings. It's rough seeing Wilhelm and Simon struggle like this but it's not just the falling down that makes us, it's the getting back up and learning. And the learning does Not come easy at the age when we are led by our feelings.
💙~ k
Choose to live is the correct translation (i’m a swede 😀)
Always love ur reaction. 💞
woo hoo can't wait to watch
To pronounce simons name I’m pretty sure its like sea-mone. but you could also say Simon like the America way.
Kristina was better than last season. Sorry. Feel like she is so hated that y'all aren't actually listening to what she is saying. She literally told her child that her & his dad love him no matter what & just as he is. She didn't mean stay away from Simon forever but for a while as to keep the media from further gossiping. They are royalty. Like it or not this is their life and to act like the whole government institution should be thrown away instantaneously bc of a 16 yr old child is crazy to me. I think they use the word secret as a bad thing. They can be together but keep it out of the public eye just like the Queen said Eric did. He dated OnlyFan model but NDAs were signed to protect him & the family. I love Simon but he also doesn't comprehend that Wilhelm is not some regular boy. He is the future King thus being with him and in his life will be different. And once it's all out, I would love to see how Simon reacts to being not a secret anymore & what all that entails. JMHO. PS: I LOVE THIS SHOW
Thanks for putting those words into mine because I am so tired of these kids on the internet acting like dating a prince is a regular thing . Ooo Simon doesn’t want to be a secret . Willem never hide or shy showing is affection for Simon but at 16 why would you want to have your relationship on magazines every day🙄. I like how the season end not because of Simon only because Willem really needed to have control over his life , his anxiety is too severe so it’s better the way he did it.
Thank you!! I couldn’t have said it better myself!
I personally do not agree with her actions. Her son is grieving and at the same time someone took a video of an intimate moment and put it on the internet. The main focus should be to publicly condemn whoever did that and shame the press for trying to make a story of it (the press will be the press but I think a statement from the queen would mean a lot). Just because they are royalty doesn't excuse how she has disragarded his feelings every step of the way, even this episode, she told him to go to conselling only because he was acting out in public, not for his own well being.
I agree that Simon's perspective is a hard one being that Wille is literally a prince, I think the queen should have asked for a meeting with the two of them, maybe a dinner so she meet him properly, and just explain a few things rather than acting in the shadows controlling it all (I know she's a busy woman but this is a serious matter).
So yeah, thats just my opinion and I completely support yours, just see it a different way ❤
@@HarryAllen9 I appreciate and respect your opinion/POV. I'd also like to say bc the story is meant to focus on Wilhelm that we don't see that his mother is also grieving. He lost his brother and that is tragic but his mother lost her son. And that is also devastating. She was also born to be queen and has had the ways of preparing for her whole life. Much like Eric. Which is why their thinking and focus on traditions is so different than Wilhelm IMHO
Sorry but Kristina had plenty of time to have this conversation and say all these supportive things to Wilhelm and she didn't. What about right after the video was posted? Or in the car before the statement? Or over Christmas break? Did she not think her son needed to hear they love him no matter what, that they can make a plan when he's 18 BEFORE all this? It seems like it's the first time he's hearing this and that is unforgivable to me. It comes off as manipulative that she is suddenly saying all this now only when he's breaking down and 'threatening' the monarchy. And did you see the way she looked around on the plane, like she didn't want to be overheard saying she would support his 'unconventional' relationship? The whole thing seemed disingenuous, but I guess let's see what happens in S3!
His mother is so uncaring, manipulative and cold, it is crazy. "Choose to live an unconventional relation" there is no doubt for me in they put it there on purpose.
I am actually very surprised she is willing Wille to explore his emotions more....potentially not good for her.
Aspergers is actually an outdated term now and its all now a spectrum of ASD(Autism spectrum disorder). From high to low functioning.
Both my siblings would at one time be considered to have aspergers(high functioning ASD) and even I struggle with Sara and her behavior. Im not denying that someone with ASD would act like her or make the decisions she does, but I do wonder if its good representation for a community that already struggles to have good representation if any at all... I lean towards no.
Great reaction and analysis! You are very insightful.
You're so not ready for the next episode.
My friend has said the same so I am SCARED
@@HarryAllen9 For me, episodes 2 and 3 were the toughest. Be ready! I look forward to your reaction, Harry. I appreciate your balance of analysis and emotion. You are great!
@@HarryAllen9 Don't get all the way pessimistic, but......
Why do we keep expecting her to act like his mother?
Your sense of understanding is amazing....the way you talk about the characters is just beautiful.
I would like to know you for real. Let me know :)
If i was younger i wouldve said the same as sara recieving the gift, i hated keeping this ‘guilt’ in me and the truth is important but i learned not to say the truth at all times 😅 learn from bad and awkward experience 👀
Hi there! I'm new here and I'm really enjoying your reactions. It's not biased. You truly try to see from each character perspective instead of picking a side. The show is not about that.
I've seen a lot o judment towards Wille...He was never allowed to feel anything... And he's just a 16 years old boy as well...
Sometimes, reading some of the comments it almost feels like he is an adult just being an asswhole... Both are suffering. Both have different stuff to deal with. And none of them are perfect. The show is not about that either.
EXACTLY he is 16, first love, the first time he is making his own decision, the first time someone is seeing him as Willie and not Prince Wilhelm or Crown Prince, the only person he can trust to say what is on their mind Added to this he has little to ZERO social skills everything Wille did was totally understandable ..SAME for Simon they were both doing their best with the limited knowledge and experience they have
unrelated but are those the alice oseman books on your shelf?
I’ve watched a number of your reactions and idk how you do it but you always manage to either predict or say something close to what’s going to happen right before it happens lol. Sometimes I’m just like watch a few more seconds and you’d get your answer!
I am swedish and the Queen actually says the word choose 😢…
By the way i like your reactions ❤
Wille is such a himbo throughout this season
ummm
Simon was ready to be his secret and he was ready to he a commoner for him....that's love ❤
Regarding the queen's call, I think when she said "choose to live in an unconventional relationship," I don't think she meant his sexuality. Like, there could very well have been previous gay kings and queens, but he'd actually be choosing to live it loud. I think that's what she's referring to: how to spin it. Its interesting, because I really don't think she's homophobic. I think she's just overly centered on the PR angle. The thing is, Wilhelm is still so young, and has remained (compared to her or even Erik) out of the limelight. I think she's just doing that thing parents do where they "protect" their kids by trying to shame/control them.
It's not wrong, she says the swedish word for choose..
I’m so fucking done with people hating on Kristina. Like what do you want her to do??? She is still the queen and needs to make sure that the line continues.
In season one, y’all were pissed that she told him to lie and accused her of being homophobic AND accused her of being emotionless. While what I see is that she was doing what she was raised to do: protect the crown. She definitely wasn’t homophobic: first of all she shook Simon’s hand and acknowledged him. She did not try to ask wilhelm to be with a girl later on AND she compared her “unfortunate “ relationship with wille and simon’s relationship, meaning she sees the both on a same level.
In season 2, she says with her words that she and her husband accept him but the issue is still Simon. The video. I agree that the wording on “choose to live in” was wrong, but I took it as “If you have decided that you want to come out” which is different. I interpreted what she said as “ It will be the first coming out in our family, and are you sure you want to do it??” Not in a homophobic way, more like a PR manager. Wilhelm is still young , his motivations to be with Simon are irrelevant to her. Because its young love and might end soon anyway.
This lady says she supports her son and people still hate her. I’m so done with people not understanding how these complex situations work and just hate a character because she is in between your faves. Obviously she isn’t perfect, but to label her a bitch and view everything she does in a negative light is so frustrating. It drives me up the wall.
PS: now that I think of it, very similar reaction people had to Isobel from Love Victor. While she was actually homophobic and a working class lady, and the queen is not. Interesting.
Anyways love the show and you too Harry, even if I disagree with you sometimes.
Stay safe and drink lots of water ❤❤
Gonna make a list so I can reply to each point heh
1) By "line continues" I assume u mean in terms of having children which, biological or not, should always be a persons choice no matter who they are. Thats why there will always be other familys to take over royalty.
2) She may be doing what she was raised to do but that doesn't make it right in my opinion. Does it explain her actions? Yes. Does it excuse them? no.
3) I personally do not think she is homophobic, I just think she is a bad mother towards her child who is so obviously struggling.
4) The issue here is that none of this is his choice, she never asks what his opinion is, she just makes her decision and thats it. Even if you take it as “If you have decided that you want to come out” it doesn't work cause he can't decide, she told him to lie about the video and keep his mouth shut. In terms of it being young love, I understand wanting to keep things private as its likely people of that age will break up eventually but given that he is grieving the loss of his brother, should her main concern not be his mental well being? Surely being with someone who he loves would help him in every way. She sent him to see someone this episode but it was all about image rather than his mental health, so he wouldn't embarrass them with more emotional outbursts.
5) In terms of "she supports her son and people still hate her" its all about how you support, she can sit there and say its okay non stop but until she listens and understand what he is saying, she will never be able to fully support him.
6) I personally do label basically everything she has done as a negative, not because she is in the way of Wille and SImon, but because, to me, she has failed in being a good mother towards him and has put their image above all else. Just because a system is a certain way doesn't mean it has to be, fuck what the press think about the video, he was recorded without his knowledge and the person who released it is the only one who should be condemned.
And yes agreed, apporeciate the support and comments even if we disagree ❤ we love healthy discussions in this house
Here come my list 😅😅
1) I get that it’s a personal choice, but for wille it’s kind of a big deal as he is the last remaining descendant from his mother’s line. Like she says later *spoiler* she needs him on his side to disprove the royal courtiers who think wille is incapable. He isn’t incapable, he’s just a teenager.
That being said, it makes sense she wants her line to continue, years and generations of effort to keep the monarchy going does that to you. She also sacrificed her childhood and love, only for her first son to pass away and her second son to go to go and say he doesn’t want the responsibility. I get that it’s perpetuating a generational cycle but I see her perspective.
2) glad you acknowledged that. I’m so sick of people not seeing that she isn’t a terrible person, she was just raised to have different priorities than most parents.
3) Could she be a better parent? Yes. Is she a terrible parent for someone in her situation? Debatable.
4) interesting. I see your point but don’t at the same time. I agree the overlying tone of how she handled it was bad but again it just gives me the PR managing vibe.
We also have to keep in mind that she has a court of royal advisors on her, trying to save the monarchy and willing the give the reins to *spoiler* August to ensure it’s survival. She is under pressure from them to make sure wille is capable. My guess is she knows that he is, but needs his image to be sparkly clear so that the advisers are kept content. She is also a grieving mother but has had her emotions repressed by being the Queen for so long, it feels like she is working on autopilot, and all her royal training is keeping her going.
Again with Simon I see your point. I do think she placed her sons emotional health second to their image, but for some reason it doesn’t make me that mad. Idk what it is.
5) she does do that later in the season I believe.
6) again I agree to some things here.
Also maybe it’s because I am 17, queer, living in a country where homosexuality’s punishable with jail time, and living with parents who refuse to acknowledge the LGBTQ+ community, I feel if any parent gives support in any way, they are not terrible. I feel a lot of sympathy for the queen and seeing people shit on her really makes me sad because I know she could be much worse. That being said I know she can to better, and hope the next season shows us that.
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I agree. She told her son that she, and his father, love & except who he is & that if he wanted to come out she wanted it to be on his terms. That is still not good enough for some. That was her being his mother. Like it or not she has to also think about the country & the line of succession bc it is her job. People want her to throw away centuries of their families royal history bc her 16 yr old son has a first love.
I think the Queen like all the other characters is doing the best she can .... she is straddling the line of being a queen and a mother, and she is making ( though not explaining). decisions based on wisdom vs youth Wilhelm thinks he and Simon will live in a happy little bubble... but what about the media scrutiny and its impact on Simon ... Also the fact is they are 16 ... how many of us are still with our first partner .... it will not. follow Simon the same way it will follow Wille ... could she be more of a mother YES but she is trying her best with the experience and knowledge she has ....
I think if this happened in England..Wilhelm would have it even tougher..I understand the Queen in one way..Wilhelm is so young, but end of the day, it doesnt matter which country and whose royalty..we have to move on and evolve....
Me estresa un poco que no se este tomando en cuenta el contexto de la situación, la reina tiene razón, ella no le dijo nada malo realmente, si es un relación poco convencional PARA LA REALEZA no le dijo NO no veas le dijo mantenlo lejos del ojo publico y eso realmente es lo mejor para todos, especialmente para simón, ella le pidió que vaya al psicólogo porque se preocupa por el y sabe que la situación es difícil pero son realeza y eso no va a cambiar
While every fan of Simon and Wilhlem can so easily hate the queen and see her as a horrible mother, I don’t think she is as bad as we think, only because you have to consider the life that she had lead and the way her parents probably were with her. Idk maybe watching the crown has made me a bit more sympathetic or understanding of someone in that kind of position. I think she does love him and wants what’s best for him but she can’t separate being the queen and a mother because the reality is that she has to be both and she trying to make Willie see that that will be the reality for him too.
I just personally believe that your family should come before all else, a video was released of her son in a private moment, condemn the person who took it and tell the press they should be ashamed to try and put her son down for a natural human experience. I get needing to be queen but whats the point if it means you hurt your son in the process.
Thank you. The Queen is not perfect but she has to balance Sovern & mother. Like she told Wilhelm in the season one finale nobody asks for this, her included. This is an institution that has been running for centuries. Pretty sure Wilhelm is not the first future monarch that did not want to do this.
@@HarryAllen9 I get that and as regular people it is clearly how a normal human , especially a mother, should behave but again, she is not a normal person and her all her life she was taught and experienced family in a totally different way. In her eyes covering it up was helping him.
I think I have a crush on you. You are so sensible