Chivalry: Medieval Warfare - Dealing with Feints at a Competitive level.

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  • @crusadernikolai1996
    @crusadernikolai1996 9 років тому +48

    If I don't know what I'm doing then the enemy sure as hell won't.

  • @Vyktar2k1o
    @Vyktar2k1o 8 років тому +34

    The meta in this game has gotten to the point where it makes the combat system look broken and clunky when I watch someone play.

    • @Tribune_of_Italia
      @Tribune_of_Italia 7 років тому

      the meta now is still that, but you don't need to do it.

    • @thefauvel7558
      @thefauvel7558 6 років тому +2

      @@Tribune_of_Italia the meta is arguably very much worse than this. It makes this look like a bot fight in comparison. And yet I do it.

  • @ImNoctica
    @ImNoctica 9 років тому +35

    I love when a man at arms calls me a noob because I feint them after their third back dodge

    • @GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser
      @GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser 9 років тому +2

      +Cros This

    • @Dirxano
      @Dirxano 8 років тому

      You were bitching about my feints today, I rek u anytiem boi

    • @ImNoctica
      @ImNoctica 8 років тому

      Dirxano lol who are you? I don't complain about feints you mug

    • @Dirxano
      @Dirxano 8 років тому

      it's emi and maybe you bragged about gambling idk fite me tho

    • @ImNoctica
      @ImNoctica 8 років тому

      lol oh yea you were just gambling making it easier for me

  • @flor660
    @flor660 9 років тому +59

    OMG. level 60 and still feint!

    • @hearmeroar6175
      @hearmeroar6175 9 років тому +7

      +Flor Lmao

    • @flor660
      @flor660 9 років тому

      +jkesmoker I play 4th person?

    • @DanYeAMAN
      @DanYeAMAN 8 років тому +1

      +Flor omg ppl still cry about feints

    • @Vire70
      @Vire70 8 років тому

      +jkesmoker People who feint and then bitch about 3rd person are just baffling. 3p or 1st is pretty much just preference. 1st is actually easier for a whole lot of things. Acting like it's some huge, cheap advantage is just... what? Maybe in a game of hide and seek.

    • @Vire70
      @Vire70 8 років тому +1

      jkesmoker No idea, I play in AU and our servers all allow 3rd person. Conversely almost all high ranks hate feinting there, myself included.

  • @afaultytoaster
    @afaultytoaster 9 років тому +43

    make a video about shittalking please, i've never been good at that

    • @AIfeim
      @AIfeim 9 років тому +2

      +afaultytoaster youve come to the right place

  • @balthasarrasahtlab8872
    @balthasarrasahtlab8872 9 років тому

    This is some splendid material. Thanks for the tutorial mate, you helped me a lot!

  • @inuasha112
    @inuasha112 8 років тому +2

    "Otherwise the game would be about breaking animations and stamina wars."
    Finally, someone understands. That is all Chivalry is now.

  • @robowner
    @robowner 9 років тому +15

    good sophax music

  • @redamber483
    @redamber483 5 років тому +1

    "It's impossible to win if you think that you've already lost."

  • @SkaaraDreadlocks
    @SkaaraDreadlocks 8 років тому +4

    The combination of the tone in this guy's voice and the background music makes him sound like a skilled ninja talking about the arts of war, haha. Good video with some interesting techniques I've never really considered attempting. Maybe this'll help me against those god awful feinters. Torn Banner themselves refer to feinting, in their Tutorial, by saying "Good, now you can piss people off with your shady tricks!", but at the same time there is a level of realism in it; I'm a newbie in IRL Buhurt sport (Medieval combat, look it up), and found that "feinting" is actually useful to an extent, but for a skilled Buhurt-practicer it is easier to block than it is for a skilled Chivalry-player. People need to stop saying "Combat is unrealistic, it's so broken" because Chivalry intentionally has a semi-realistic combat system; it includes some realistic aspects but they are all lacking proper realism in one way or another.
    One example is how four blows with a longsword to a full-armored knight would not kill or dismember him. A hammer, perhaps with a large spike on the back of the hammerhead, could puncture a knight's armor. Making a combat system where you'd HAVE to get a hammer to defeat a knight because with a sword you'd just be bashing him ten times until he'd get knocked out would be very difficult to make, and would prove difficult to pull off in such a fast-paced competitive game. -The developers of Mordhau have said this themselves. Their new game is looking to be amazing with a lot more controls and a lot more fast-paced battles than Chivalry, so quickly disposing of someone, or proving who's the best fighter, would be settled by the players' skills with the game's original controls, and not by who pulls off the best "rainbow" or any other ballerina-moves, because the fight-mechanics will be so much more... somethingsomething. Just watch the devblogs they've posted, you'll see what I mean.
    And now I realized that I've just written a friggin article.. Sorry, everyone!

  • @jeorhan1262
    @jeorhan1262 9 років тому +3

    nice video.
    I think you should have covered more about when' to do each of the 3 tactics.
    and perhaps more on how to do them, especially the dodge.
    Also your chivalry looks so smooth. I play at 80ish ping usually, and I get about half the animation you do.

  • @MakersMuse
    @MakersMuse 8 років тому +3

    Great vid. The hate against feints is real - even among rank 50+ but you break it down well. Sub'd in case you make any more :)

  • @sugoikawaiineko629
    @sugoikawaiineko629 9 років тому +11

    really good analysis, please do more high tier tutorials

  • @Shawtgunner
    @Shawtgunner 9 років тому

    This was the exact tutorial I wanted to see from you next, so thanks. Would gladly watch a second video on the subject, maybe showing more double parries and dodges from your pov and talking about punishing a feint instead of going on the defensive.

  • @Jade_Raven
    @Jade_Raven 9 років тому +3

    Should be noted that DOOP can put you behind in a stamina war, and also has limited usefulness against zweis and other long slow weapons

    • @MentorAltair
      @MentorAltair 9 років тому

      +Caleb Crumpton Especially with the increased stamina cost on doege in Mercs, however, you will obviously still try to read feints as that would be better than dooping stamina wise.

  • @bullseye0117
    @bullseye0117 8 років тому

    I'd love to see a video on constructing useful combos for various situations and what your experience has been for them!

  • @ssbcorporate2046
    @ssbcorporate2046 9 років тому

    excellent video, please make more in depth stuff like this

  • @alligatormand5737
    @alligatormand5737 8 років тому

    breaking animations,never have u ever seen an good man at arms

  • @HappyGloom
    @HappyGloom 9 років тому

    Very insightful video, thanks for sharing all this valuable info. :)

  • @41installer
    @41installer 8 років тому +2

    Hi, agresiv here. Please, make a video on how to read reverse overheads.

  • @TheWaveofbabies
    @TheWaveofbabies 9 років тому +1

    Thanks for this video. Many players of Chivalry fail to realize that feints are a core mechanic designed to throw off your opponents parry. They are really no different than drags or reverse overheads which likewise are used to throw off the timing of an opponents parry, but for some reason are more accepted by the community.

  • @AIfeim
    @AIfeim 9 років тому +4

    fight me no feint noob and see what happens

  • @elizabethdewitt6540
    @elizabethdewitt6540 9 років тому

    Very nice video,Giru!

  • @tomoe7255
    @tomoe7255 9 років тому

    nice video +giru giru,I still have a long way to read/defend myself agaisnt feints,however i hope to get better with your videos :D

  • @asdfqqasdfx5036
    @asdfqqasdfx5036 9 років тому

    pls make a video about making combos/breaking animations and how to parry more consistent, thx

  • @diogomachado9381
    @diogomachado9381 8 років тому

    very nice man! thanks for the help, please make a video in how to block properly

  • @honzaschlogl
    @honzaschlogl 8 років тому

    please can you make a video how to defend against spinning attacks like reverse overheads?

  • @Shanolette
    @Shanolette 9 років тому

    Great job,great vid,keep it up.

  • @chrischavez9589
    @chrischavez9589 8 років тому

    good video explains feints very well

  • @GirlsChase
    @GirlsChase 5 років тому

    Watching this for Mordhau trickz. I was wondering how you got so good so quickly (since Mordhau is relatively new), then realized you've been playing this style of game for years.

  • @seanno7027
    @seanno7027 6 років тому

    its not stamina wars and breaking animations without feints.. its endurance practise and being calm.

  • @AMan-mg1rx
    @AMan-mg1rx 8 років тому

    Nice one Giru. Something I need to work on ...
    - Merlin

  • @Helpertin
    @Helpertin 7 років тому

    Feints are a mechanic built into the game. I'm level 43 and I use them when I need to. Fuck your chivalry, on the battlefields and in the arenas it's life or death.

  • @sugoikawaiineko629
    @sugoikawaiineko629 8 років тому

    0:31 "playing with unrestricted feints"

  • @Shoutenkou
    @Shoutenkou 8 років тому

    Hey Giru!
    Butcher here, didn't know that you had a channel :)
    Great content, cheers.

  • @marius5_
    @marius5_ 7 років тому

    I'm a bit new to the game and can someone please tell me what feints are?everyone talks about them

  • @LeCrocodileRose
    @LeCrocodileRose 9 років тому

    great video man thanks a lot !

  • @cpowelson9228
    @cpowelson9228 8 років тому

    How to read and defend drags, how to beat MAA as a knight

    • @cpowelson9228
      @cpowelson9228 8 років тому

      ***** I've found the best way to beat a MAA without a shield is to feint a stab and then overhead for a one shot

  • @Damik93
    @Damik93 9 років тому

    Ty for this vid.I will definitely use

  • @thefauvel7558
    @thefauvel7558 6 років тому

    Really, MAA are the worse enemy to duel against. Not worrying about feints and gambling your way to victory and the fact that punishing their feints can easily backfire. Especially so when it's Knight vs MAA

  • @MegaCnlSanders
    @MegaCnlSanders 8 років тому

    oh hey look someone who's ACTUALLY good at this

  • @beophobic9653
    @beophobic9653 9 років тому

    Good job GIRU.

  • @totiploplop
    @totiploplop 9 років тому

    great video !

  • @beufaledef
    @beufaledef 7 років тому

    Why dont we have some server with feint disabled . Cryers would stop and feinters would have fun with their bro's ...

  • @CrayonsYummyYummy
    @CrayonsYummyYummy 9 років тому

    thanks! this really helped!

  • @minotaur818
    @minotaur818 5 років тому

    Why feints are frowned upon but spins are not?

  • @morte2504
    @morte2504 7 років тому +1

    how can i get that point of look? i mean fov

    • @morte2504
      @morte2504 7 років тому

      Thanks :)

    • @neoaxel94
      @neoaxel94 7 років тому

      Reverse overhead must be forbiden

  • @Shadow-yp4tx
    @Shadow-yp4tx 3 роки тому

    still great advice even for mordhau

  • @tomhijkl
    @tomhijkl 9 років тому

    Great vid

  • @harvey3651
    @harvey3651 8 років тому

    good video man

  • @OhNoe
    @OhNoe 9 років тому

    Make More "How To" Videos Plz There Really Helpfull

  • @hanko9r
    @hanko9r 8 років тому

    i sometimes react to feints by attacking, but they call it a gamble. is this correct?

    • @belongaskip
      @belongaskip 8 років тому

      I'd call it a hit trade since you see the feint and just attack during their real attack

  • @alligatormand5737
    @alligatormand5737 8 років тому

    hiw to parry drags

  • @baileybutler2350
    @baileybutler2350 6 років тому +5

    "otherwise the game would just be about breaking animations and stamina wars" it is. Lol.

    • @baileybutler2350
      @baileybutler2350 6 років тому +2

      once you hit rank 15 (which happens mere hours after playing) you get fucking destroyed by players breaking animations and game mechanics, new players join and leave once they get sick of that, which is why it is dying. I went from dominating matches with fair fights and no tricks, faints and blocks overheads and stabs etc going 40-2 most games, to being lucky to get one cheap ass backstab to some guy already half dead, because some dude will shove his head up his ass and block my attack whilst also swinging 3 times in the time it takes me to swing once xD

    • @baileybutler2350
      @baileybutler2350 6 років тому

      xD dam man

  • @thebullet9798
    @thebullet9798 7 років тому

    What's y'all's option on playing 3rd person

    • @joshgeee5111
      @joshgeee5111 6 років тому

      playing 3rd person will limit your ability as a play (competitively) but do what is fun for you rather than tryharding, the competitive scene has been dead a long time.

  • @rekrab
    @rekrab 9 років тому

    how do I git gud ?? make vido pls

  • @BiggestMoe
    @BiggestMoe 9 років тому

    thanks that helps alot!

  • @Elluem
    @Elluem 8 років тому

    Why you say "reading the feint" you mean predicting whether or not they're going to feint, or reacting to it, when you see it?

    • @braydenc7942
      @braydenc7942 8 років тому

      It's easy to read feints on console XD the one thing 30 frames is good for.

  • @Moinouchat
    @Moinouchat 8 років тому

    do more kthx

  • @emir3861
    @emir3861 Рік тому

    YOUNG GIRU

  • @connorparrish7002
    @connorparrish7002 9 років тому

    I thought I was decent at Chivalry, holding on to a 2.4 KDR, but holy shit.
    I'm so casual.
    xD

    • @crusadernikolai1996
      @crusadernikolai1996 9 років тому +1

      Check out MORDHAU upcoming game based on chivalry

    • @ETF6661
      @ETF6661 8 років тому

      +Connor Parrish How do you know your KDR?

    • @connorparrish7002
      @connorparrish7002 8 років тому +1

      Sooooo maybe I keep track with paper and pen.

    • @ETF6661
      @ETF6661 8 років тому

      +Connor Parrish lawl

    • @givmigraad
      @givmigraad 8 років тому

      +Connor Parrish whatever you want to do, just do it. And maybe buy some more paper

  • @nothanks588
    @nothanks588 9 років тому

    nice video

  • @Robyo12121
    @Robyo12121 9 років тому

    Here -> demand

  • @ThanhHoang-og6eg
    @ThanhHoang-og6eg 9 років тому

    sick tactic !!!

  • @highriley
    @highriley 9 років тому +1

    GIRU

  • @Machado1997
    @Machado1997 8 років тому

    I see lots of people running away not to fall for feint, such uggly gameplay when I see a knight or vanguard doing this shit and slashing. Unfortunatly most high levels play like that. Made me wanna stop playing for a while. Also...There's no such thing as reading feints. I thought you would mention that every character howls before performing a true swing. You should parry when you hear your oponent howl. However, even if you are aware of this, you won't be able to react when facing the fastest weapons. So against these weapons you should always parry, if you fall for a feint, turn 180° and do the uggly run/exploit OR be a god damn man and strike/kick back as fast as you can. By performing the former most of the time you will be able to escape since these weapons are generally shorter.

    • @Machado1997
      @Machado1997 8 років тому

      +GIRU GIRU Which part was unclear ? The ugglyness I refer to is the tatic of turning 180° and strafing/jumping away from your oponent, all this in full plate armour. Also, let us not forget these heavy armored classes can outrun the lighter classes, have better reach, can swing in 360°, etc... My point being, you want to prove your ability stick with the underpowered classes. (maa and archer)

    • @theodorediuliomyers
      @theodorediuliomyers 8 років тому

      +machado souza wut
      Turning around and running away is an exploit now?

    • @7dayspking
      @7dayspking 8 років тому

      +machado souza Ahhh, nothing unrealistic about running OR jumping in Plate armour.....the issue is with your way of thinking, not this particular game mechanic. Stamina should drain faster...but that's about it.

  • @astartesfanboy5294
    @astartesfanboy5294 3 роки тому +1

    geez this game does not look nearly as good as I remember it lol

  • @Sh0tzuu
    @Sh0tzuu 7 років тому

    whata shitta Keepo

  • @kurs6913
    @kurs6913 9 років тому

    Feints haters come...

  • @kittycoma
    @kittycoma 9 років тому +3

    doop hahahahahahahahahah

    • @Deltax64
      @Deltax64 9 років тому +1

      chiv 2 confirmed mage-at-arms dab out of parry?

  • @RingMasterG
    @RingMasterG 5 років тому

    HandsUp

  • @Stormtimbers
    @Stormtimbers 8 років тому

    Feinters should be banned

  • @gerhardjanssen6822
    @gerhardjanssen6822 7 років тому

    Feinting is for cowards and nubs

  • @Variaxsol
    @Variaxsol 8 років тому

    rohing isnt even competitive, your just breaking the animations. your exploiting a glitch.

    • @jeffreyschwanke2310
      @jeffreyschwanke2310 8 років тому

      None of the "ballerina shit" in this game is a glitch. The developers have openly said drags are purposeful from the beginning of the game. Before you open you mouth full of shit do some research if your capable. And "rohing" is not a fucking word

    • @jeffreyschwanke2310
      @jeffreyschwanke2310 8 років тому

      You mean reverse overheads? That's a drag. Look it up. It's not like it's hard to block. it isn't even broken

    • @definitelynotadam
      @definitelynotadam 7 років тому

      Sadly it has nothing to do with reality of medieval fencing. AoC and Chiv were fun when they lasted, but the combat system and animations are hilariously broken.

  • @calithesloth5462
    @calithesloth5462 5 років тому

    My god that combat looks bad as fuck
    crouching and spinning all the time sucks

  • @flintrocks
    @flintrocks 8 років тому

    lol wtf is that spin bull shit... turning around so your sword hits while your back is to the enemy? lame....