In Search of Wabi Sabi with Marcel Theroux
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2014
- Marcel Theroux travels across Japan in an attempt to understand Wabi Sabi, a theory of Japanese aesthetics in which imperfection and transience are the touchstone of beauty.
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Fun fact is that all the people here are judging a video about wabi sabi for not being perfect. Applause
you see the contradition here
He will never understand wabi sabi because he's unaware of what he's even askin, he should just give up and wabi sabi will find him? DUH !!!
kam lam the funniest thing is he probably already new exactly what it was it's more the point no one could fucking actually explain it
+balthiersgirl - He does say early-on that he'd researched it, however all his material was Western-based, hence the reason for his trip to get the information on *Wabi Sabi* from its source.
People everywhere are poor at explaining, and this is a relatively difficult abstract concept.
E X A C T L Y !!! ..... ..... Ah... the irony of it all! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Surely the people bitching about this lovely doc have not watched the whole thing- I think Theroux makes a great effort at finding out about japanese culture and delivers a very thoughtful account of his experience in Japan.
imperfect, impermanent, incomplete - nothing lasts, nothing is finished, and nothing is perfect.
I enjoyed his haiku about the maple leaves like hands, catching waning sunlight. Beautiful.
I going to Europe to ask random people to explain Stoicism to me.
that's actually a good way to feel out the people's awareness of the concept
I think Marcel would have had better luck if he went to Japan and asked them to explain stoicism to him.
What about going to China and asking people to explain the Tao? 😁
First up embarrass a person in front of camera for failing to explain the concept. ‘Never visited before but I feel I know…’. Arrogance that then to proceeds to undo him.
Wabi Sabi can be explained as the story held in the face of the aging. Westerners seek plastic surgery to make the old face young. Wabi Sabi celebrates the old face as a testament to having lived the life that was lived. Old, or imperfect things is beautiful, not something to discard or renew. An old, shovel documents the service that served its user over time. Modern day pop or rock music is manufactured into a final cut after one take through electronic editing and simulated sounds. A traditional studio created song is done over and over front the top until it is intuitively just right. When you examine that song, you will discover the metre, drumming, and timing is off or imperfect but this is the beauty. Life is not perfect. Wabi Sabi is admission to that.
very nice!
Nice addition/explanation to the philosophy . Thank you
One of finest things Japanese say is ' it is not what is said but what not is not said that is truly important'
I think the closest concept in English is "studied casualness". wabi comes from adjective wabishii (わびしい), which means humble, unimpressive, short of deserted. sabi comes from adjective sabishii (さびしい), which means lonely, or simple and undecorated in appearance.
It's also akin to the tradition of vanitas painting from the 1700s - the idea of impermanence, the inevitability of death and the inexorable passage of time.
Sabishii also means "sad" so I believe there is an element of soul ache to it all, appreciating the transience of everything with a sense that it is both beautiful and tragic. The more transient something is (child's innocence, falling sakura leaves, a sunset) the more beautiful it is, the more difficult to see if finish so quickly, and the more satisfying to have been there to witness it
thank you
This guy managed to hook me into watching this documentary and yet I don’t know whether he found what he was looking for at the end. Now that’s wabi sabi! 😊
That’s why after 10 minutes I fast forward the video then read the comments instead of finishing the video 😂 thanks for letting me know
This strikes me as being as effective as walking into the average Wal-Mart in North America and asking random people about impressionism or the pre-Raphaelites...while speaking a foreign language.
This video actually turned out to be pretty interesting...but that dour Polish monk is the saddest thing in my life right now.
momentofzen He's laughing inside.
@@momentofzen4229 - "Did you see wabi sabi in London?"
- "There are some Japanese people in London!"
@@momentofzen4229 Some people are simply attracted to monasticism. Whether they're capable to understand subtler concepts has nothing to do with it.
I suspect he was playing a bit dumb at the beginning to show his personal growth at the end. May he proceed to understand. May all Humans proceed to understand.
It just seems similar to the aesthetic we are after when we want handmade things even with their imperfections or when we purposely 'distress' things like furniture to give them more character. Too much decoration can seem gaudy or inappropriate/distracting. Maybe the tea people loved the simple bowls because they wanted the focus on the ceremony and the intamacy of it. There is nothing personal or intimate about a mass produced store bought item. There's no story behind a shiny new thing, but if you have an heriloom, or antique, even if it's not perfect, we love it and there is a story behind it.
Simplicity desirous of nature earth changing with the motions continuous growth and motion beauty and cultures leaving out industry
Purely innocence clarity outer limits of time appreciation of all gentle creatures of ✌ solace in the Creators will and plans above mans harmony and grace oneness with others without divisions eyes focused on One His above mine
Beautiful description 👌
Great documentary, I understand why someone could get annoyed by this guy but it's his own journey, and I respect his effort and hard work. How I wish to visit Japan one day and explore it's complexity on my own. 🙏
get a life , really , and an education, because if you think there is anything great about that excrement of a docu or this theroux guy then you need to reevaluate your entire vision of the world around you .
I do think that this document is quite shallow, but I found some things about it quite interesting. And its incredible how you can tell what kind of vision of the world I have, judging from a two sentence comment I made a year ago. Can you suggest me a better documentary or a good book to educate myself further? Thank you.
olafursson kyllian Considering your years of study, you're still quite angry.
@@ArexuRj Hey, I’m a documentary expert, what are you interested in when it comes to documentaries?
Tea ceremony,
Crooked vase in symmetry,
This too is passing
You find wabi sabi when wabi sabi finds you.
The key point comes at the end - 'it's my idea of wabi-sabi."
I think wabi sabi is not just the imperfection. but it's about how you appreciate the things that simple and imperfect. you learn and understand about all things are not stable of your life. sometime, you just have to be quite and feel the things that just happened
So nice that some one tries to make out what it is Wabi Sabi
Well W S is simply that life and the total ecosystem in which you live anywhere on planet earth is " always a work in Progress" i.e., Wabi Sabi as i understand it.
Thanks
Good luck
Kasturi G
immensely enjoyable documentary. Thanks for sharing
Fun fact: the "wabi sabi rap" begins with "I don't know what Wabi Sabi is"
superduper inspiring, thank you very much Gablesha, Marcel Theroux and crew/documentary staff , also to all interviewees resource. I have been very indebted to all of you. Peace!
So you read In Praise of Shadows? It's marvelous! It really makes me travel, imagine, and see beauty. It's an ode to aesthetics. I was deeply excited when I read it for the first time.
beautiful, imperfect and heartfelt
Wow, thank you for sharing. Without realizing, by end of it, tears were just rolling down uncomfortably, this is very deep n eye opening for people like us from west. Thank you again.
I think the most accurate idea of wabisabi is the one by the polish monk: "you missing here"
Exactly !! If he's missing here (out of the picture), then wabi sabi is at peace !
I think the monk just wants him to go to bed and stop asking "nonsense" questions about wabi sabi, haha
The last part had that theroux charm of making things awkward.
Wabi-sabi is the capacity to be free of desire. The more you desire, more you live in function of it, so, if you are able to feel satisfied without the necessity of have things, so you are able to contemplate the world by the Wabi-sabi perspective, that means, again, pure satisfaction. Thats my opinion xD
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Wabi Sabi is the humble journey of Marcel Theroux to try to define it. Imperfect, impermanent, incomplete.
Go watch the old Zatoichi movies, then you will understand wabi sabi.
He didn't like the Pony Business Hotel because he does not have Wabi Sabi.
Can't we all agree that each term, "Wabi' or "sabi" is a complex philosophical term. Each concept has taken hundreds of years to capture in words or images. Just imagine the immense amount of work just to take care of the temple. Now span that across decades of changing history and impermanent permanence that followed as result. We won't understand because the beauty can, in a rude translation, cause us pleasure while blissfully suffering in the meanwhile. Us westerners need to let go of trying to package "zen" or any other view point from the East and focus on our own enigmas at bay. My two cents.
A great documentary.
i thought it was wasabi....i was like i saw it the other day at the grocers..
Lol
Maybe it is if you brings one to full presence.
What I understand and know now is!!
Wabi:
To be as smple as it can be. (ex,. When you want do an assignment do ot without any additional painting, coloring, and decoration. You just do what is required from you).
Sabi:
It all about that things don’t change, and their beauty is always there. (ex,. You are always you, your weight, height, and age change does not chabge you. You are always you!)
No
2021: I Remarried after giving birth to a child from a different but first husband. The second, had married four times prior, but now deceased.This husband, was not a consciously-conscious human-being although an engineer in scientific human engineering.
Unknowingly, he did suffer culture shock on our honeymoon. As Time passed, he continued oblivious to our family aesthetic surroundings and stayed in his own subliminal private world. His complex job 24/7 at the same time, was all consuming. He thought it protected secretively to insulate him by his work on Lockheeds’ Mars Project.
Our partial life together could not be shared. The lack in his highly trained senses, did not allow the simplicity of the WABI--SABI motif. This was in spite of his child like-innocence and naïveté!
For me, It was a tragic contradiction that had no solution.
Koh-hee oh koo-duh-sai.
You need coffee?
So cute.
wabi sabi means different things to different people: beauty in inperfection, impermanence; an esthetic.
imperfection
A delicate white man sits alone in the Pony Hotel , Kyoto. A curl of cigarette smoke
Great heiku poem
Louis has a frickin brother who also does documentaries???
Just blew my mind!
@@JonniSD I'm shocked as well! lol!Who knew?
Pure Joy and an incredibly successful father who is the great travel writer of his generation
Right.. mind blowing
@@furdiebant The Therouxs are just fabulous - all three of them.
5:00 "If wabi sabi is part of their culture, they surely should know what it means."
Do fish know what "water" means? Or can westerners explain Plato and Aristotle?
absofuckinglutely . this is the most intelligent comment i have read here ,
Those who live it / needn´t explain it in words / to a Gaijin …
plato and aristotle were philosphers. boom. explained.
And if he go to Japan he should study japanese just enough to comunicad and learn a little of the culture... it's not that the japanese people doesn't know a out wabi sabi, but is a very complex concept of art and phylosophy... and most of people can't explain even in japanese much worse in other language and more to another person who have no idea what is the profound conscious japanese people are...
Thank you so much, I need to revisited again this wonderful journey to find Wabi Sabi I may learn something, but I'm not sure if I can find Wabi Sabi, but perhaps it's inside my heart.
Loved this. Thank you. 😊
Love this documentary. I've already seen it.
Touching, and a little tragic too. At the start, Marcel seems quite sensitive to the wabi sabi aesthetic and honestly moved by it, but has terrible difficulty putting it in its proper context regarding Japanese culture overall. An analogy might be if a Japanese aesthete came to the West seeking the meaning of Romanticism (or Classicism, or any other movement in art). The Westerner in the street would probably recognize the term but not be able to define it adequately, and though our culture is shot through with Romantic ideals and values, it might be difficult to find living examples in everyday Western life.
Thoughtful answer
BRING BACK WABI SABI
Thank you Marcel
I can be heard saying "huh nay" in reverse often...
And I'm talking about my mother or other people I dislike forwards...
Cool!
This helps me with my OCD. I have a big issue with imperfections. I see the beauty in distessed jeans, worn vintage leather. that worn in loved look but doing the damage myself is what I can't overcome if the item was perfect to begin with. it's strange. maybe someone can explain why this is
It isn't imperfection you desire it's the process ,the passage of time ,the part inbetween the beginning and the end.Why did I reply today? Why not 1 year ago? Would my reply have been the same? Will you even read this? You see,the in between.
perfection is not one of my values. I only do the best I can in the moment. Blessings.
I have the same problem
I like the bbc lady that talks in the end, her voice is wabi sabi to me
We have wabi sabi in Norway. There is the idea of the simplistic, the rustic. We have a word "koselig", that explains the feeling of being at home in a place, of feeling welcomed, warm, intimate. It is also related to this wabi sabiness.
I think there is wabi sabi everywhere. It just depends on the person to see/feel or recognize it.
This documentary in itself is wabi sabi
"At first glance this [Maid Cafes] are a bit disturbing..." First glance?
Brother, you have no idea how deep that rabbit hole goes.
Like asking what is dharma in india
It's an art form that artists and photographer like Daido allow in there images
Brilliant ♥ 🇯🇵
This is great. I love it. It's like watching Louis on a school trip when he was 16 and just dabbling in making documentaries. No offence Marcel, you're great. It must be hard to live in your brothers shadow.
They're both great. They are so much alike and yet so different.
20 minute subway ride from Shinjuku...."suburbs"
Wabi Sabi is the half way! Japan is the perfect post-modern land!
Mono no Aware is related to wabi-sabi.
Mono no Aware is meant to sound both Japanese and English.
Take a shot every time he says wabi sabi
And By the end of the video you will know what it is.
very interesting
23:30 i had to laugh out loud. What a hilarious cultural clash haha
This documentary
Is
A great
Spoken word
Song.
Avant-garde
Found art.
It's joined my other art
Pieces.
Is it...
Wabi-sabi?
23:45 That moment when you stumble unto the weird side of Japan.
this voce, good stuff.
WABBY SABBY: you can't just find
Thanks a lot...
"why'd you never finish your degree"
"I am a follower of wabi sabi"
Wabi or Sabi is a kind of anti-gorgeous style or tradition where many people warship and pay high attention to the goods whose price are expensive. But a few people finds the beauty in the goods manners, whose outlook is not luxury. The sprite the minor people have is so called Wabi or Sabi.
Tokyo looks nice and wabi-sabi to me.
Highly interesting...
Comment section here is making my day 😂 stoicism and impressionism lmao
I would be grateful to see a documentary that investigates the relationship (or lack thereof) of BBC, quirky documentarian Louis Theroux and the documentarian featured here whose name sort of suggests a familial relationship and other striking similarities. In tribute of the excellence and perfection of wabi sabi, allow me to publicly register my general, imprecise and imperfect critique of the movement. I would be proud if any typos or other mistakes contained in this paragraph (it is becoming very long, I hope) could be immediately brought to my attention, well, most of the mistakes in almost but not quite all instances. I Luve wabi sabi!
A fool's errand is right. A cozy and old English country house is Wabi-Sabi.
Theroux is so Wetern Tourist😳
Ask, ask again, ask louder, ask more people.🐛
a 'sorry accident'. lmao. the irony abounds. :)
I think "wabi Sabi" is a variant or another expression of a certain morality and attitude which is more or less shared throughout the Eastern World. The closest thing in the Western World to that plane of cognition might be what is cherished in the Romantic period of the Western Literature.
Is this louis' brother?
he took the wabsabi way to deep than what it is..i got it in the first 10 min
They drive on the left side of the road in Japan. Interesting.
haha. I am 6min in. Marcel, that you are in a disconnected hotel room, looking for an answer, while people imperfectly live their lives ... that's wabi-sabi right there. :)
The British dude: What is wabi sabi? What is it? What does it mean?
The Japanese lady: Yes.
Wabi sabi can be explained with a meme " It is what it is 🤷♀️"
I get it - this video was intentionally made to be wabi-sabi as in the aspect ratio is imperfect.
Another saying' watch the forest, not the tree.'
I think a big part of Wabi Sabi is accepting the imperfections of other people
I am trying to find the "whole" wabi sabi. Ooooooo...
just me but before going to another country and asking about a concept, I would first learn how to pronounce it correctly!! Had to stop after I heard the intro..
Misread the title , I thought I was gonna watch a documentary about Wasabi ..... ended up getting a less interesting version of Louie Theroux looking for something very very vague ... lol ...
To what extent is wabi-sabi relevant to Japanese general aesthetics and landscaping?
to me Wabi Sabi is nothing but the buddhistic "it is" ... :D
(to value what is (not even what you get just what is) not beeing attached to anything - at all)
great...I always wanted to know what wabi-sabi was..
and you still don't after watching this, believe me .
Could you tell me the meaning of D'Guarisme?
Wasabi wabi-sabi
The trees have
Their human puppets take
Portraits
Of them
For
Them.
They have no means of
Reception.
Wabi Sabi = sorry accident huh !!!!! :) lost in translation
The person represents the typical Western mind that Eastern philosophy can just be “defined” or “seen” and not “EXPERIENCED”
Trying to understand the mathematics in the poems of hycu
🙏
Wasabi! The moon is flat!
it doesn't mean fallen leaves.