Why Canada Doesn’t Care About These Towns
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- Schefferville is an old mining town of only 213 people in remote northeastern Canada. The train station is the communities lifeline to the outside world, but once the mines dried up, the trains stopped servicing Schefferville, leaving its mostly Indigenous inhabitants isolated.
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Time Stamps:
0:00 - Welcome to Canada's most isolated Town
1:00 - History of the region
2:10 - What's it like living here
2:48 - Schefferville's Mining boom and bust
3:56 - A Railway to the outside world
5:00 - Why the QNSL left a community isolated
5:31 - The Tshiuetin Rail Transportation
6:24 - The train journey takes how long?!
7:37 - The future of this Indigenous Railway
#canada #railway #geography
Let us know the longest train journey you have ever been on and what it was like? 👀🚂
18 hours from Munich to Stockholm! They had a sleeper cabin though, unlike this TRT/QNSL line :)
36 hours from Green River, Utah, to Chicago!
Hamburg to Basel, I booked it 1 month ahead and got a deal on a 1. Class ticket for 79€. the most relaxed travel experience I ever had
The Canadien from edmonton to toronto, 64 hours
Houston to Alpine, TX! Nearly 20 hours thanks to being repeatedly sidetracked by long American freight trains!
My niece is a school teacher in Schefferville & has been there for 5 yrs. She is originally from the Eastern Townships, Quebec & speaks English, French & the two main Innu languages of Northern Quebec. She regularly takes the train down to Sept Iles in order to meet up with family & friends who live even further south. Non natives may find a 14 hr. train ride something to be endured. The Innu in Schefferville & up & down the line view it as a way to connect with their friends & family so these train rides are more of a social occasion. The Innu now own the railway & the tracks & also Air Inuit so no one is stuck up there. The Canadian Govt. doesn't ignore these people, but simply allows them to run their own affairs which they do very competently. Most of them don't want govt. meddling in their affairs anyway. So just because they don't live like the rest of us do, who is to say their way of life is not a good one. The Brit who made this video has forgotten one very important thing & that is many native peoples are not poor, run their own affairs & want to keep a more traditional way of life.
Well said. I would also add that giving the railway a $44 million dollar loan is not neglect.
A lot of native American tribes, if not all, are more than happy to do everything themselves, and in the US most even have the ability to set their own laws. It's not neglect, it's what they want.
Bien dit!!
I'll bet that not having 5G internet services is not at the top of their problem list either, not having access to medical care in emergencies probably is.
Respect to the native peoples who have a can do attitude in these harsh locations.
As a Canadian that use to live in Northern Quebec, not as far north as Schefferville. I appreciate you making this video shining a light on the story of people that reside in Northern Canada. Also impressed how you were able to say Sept-Îles properly. 👏
I can say that it's pretty sad how neglected Northern Canada. I'm from Southern Ontario, but lived across Canada growing up. The country and Provinces need to put more effort into building up our North. Especially cause Canadians and our Sovereignty depends on it.
@@Hamsteak so true 👍
I live like 58 degrees north
He says it with a Quebec accent!
Whats incredible when you see the map is how far east eastern Canada is
I grew up in Labrador City and briefly worked for QNS&L, weird seeing it discussed by someone from across the pond lol. The old fella cutting cake at 2:54 was a good friend and neighbour of my father and the longest-working employee of IOC at 52 years. He started working in Schefferville in the late 50s and later moved to Lab City, he sadly passed away some years ago at age 75....his name was Jean Goulet.
bon vieux jean goulet
Oh yeah city police they come here just to make it worse
I also grew up in Lab City!
This is what happens to mining towns: once the mineral deposits are mined out, they die unless some other economic base can be established. British Columbia has numerous "ghost towns" that have either been completely abandoned or have a fraction of their peak populations. These once bustling communities were not all in the northern part of the province either.
A doctor friend of mine recently volunteered in Northern Ontario and the town was only accessible by small plane. There are a lot of places like that in Canada - I was surprised trains were even an option for Schefferville. 🙂
Keep up the good work!
I know! I lives in Labrador and we have to either fly by plane to go somewhere
It's gonna save Schefferville an _absolute_ fortune in the long run. It sounds like it's already cheaper than airtravel per-person and I guarantee it's way cheaper per-ton of cargo. Price per-person and per-ton is only going to down with every trip and train added to the line.
Don't forget about the effect of cheaper freight, that translates into cheaper material and cheaper equipment. Which means cheaper infrastructure, cheaper and more amenities, less people moving out/more people moving in.
If the local governments manage it right and don't get greedy, this can easily snowball into a huge economic and life enriching opportunity for everyone. A true win-win for everyone.
Yep and winters like this are even rougher on them as they normally have some ice roads to get to places but its been very mild this year
Air Inuit flies from Sept Iles' regional airport to Schefferville at least twice a week. It's definitely not cheap, but if you need to get there quickly, it's the way to go.
Schefferville is not quite as isolated as the video would lead you to believe.
Tata Steel operates near town and another major operation, Joyce Lake, is going through environmental assessment. It's only going to get busier.
Thank you for making this video! I've lived in Canada since 2015 and had no idea about Scherfferville and this train line operated by indigenous folks! It's important to shine a light on this ❤
A group of 11 Brits from London England did the railway line to Schefferville. Superb railway.
Very interesting video!
You forgot to mention the regular air service. I’m a flight attendant at Air Inuit, and we operate multiple weekly flights to Schefferville from Montreal via Quebec City and Sept Iles. People from the town can travel to Sept Iles in just over an hour, or make it all the way down to Montreal in an afternoon. Airlines are a huge contributor to the survival of small communities, but perhaps Schefferville’s case is more interesting and unique due to the unusual nature of Canadian passenger railways. Looking forward to flying back already!
As a Canadian who lives in the BC North I can say this is more common than you think. Cambridge Columbia there are so many secluded little villages that don't even have roads to them you have to take ATVs or boats or airplanes to get to them there's secluded little villages that have religious people in their beliefs hidden away from the public. Along the Alaskan highway you'll see a lot of things like this
Yeah it's kinda creepy being out in the bush miles from town riding quads and come across some hidden squatters paradise......I reported them to the environment dudes so they could go and assess the toxic waste dump the bush tweakers had brewing......their hidden haven had a slop trench just full of human excrement and all sorts of chemicals from cooking up their junk.......the whole area was covered in trash so bad I was amazed that it wasn't reported already from planes flying overhead since an airport is directly across the river valley
Saskatchewan too, tons if fly-in only towns, towns with only winter roads, and massive journeys to travel what ought to be short distance. Building roads is more than clearing ttrees and building a causeway because the land is frozen marsh on bedrock. The rock must be blasted, and the marsh is nearly impossible to stabilize. Russians have some new methods they're trying which mugh make it possible. Then the land is dotted with thousands of lakes. It's lake, marsh, rocky hill, marsh, lake. In winter they use the lakes to make a road in. In summer, they land on the water.
I didn't even know this rail line existed and I'm a Canadian geography nerd. Thanks for the video
Any time!
@@Faultlinevideos Well done sir 👏 ......
Beatle fact george harrisons sister & her husband lived in north quebec ( & Ontario) working for the mining indilustry .
I have travelled over every railroad in Canada (except Churchill), including Schefferville, Carcross Yukon, Senneterre, Jonquiere, Toronto, yes Toronto to Moosonee, Calgary, etc. including heritage lines, Skytrain, West Coast Express, Rocky Mountaineer, VIA, GO, AMT, AMTRAK, Credit Valley Explorer, Hull Chelsea Wakefield, South Simcoe, St Jacobs Waterloo, Chute Montmorency to Le Malbaie, and I am a Brit from London England !
Only took me 7 visits. Canada is so small....
Cleared all railways Britain, Ireland, Norway, Portugal, Isle of Man, and most of Europe as far as the Ukraine. Done all five railways in Alaska, and bits of the Lower 48 too.
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Fermont, another small town in the area, is famous because about a third of its approximately 2,500 residents live in one building, which contains stores, offices, and an indoor swimming pool, and functions as a windbreak shielding the rest of the town from blowing snow.
As an Ontarian who has driven much of Canada, I've often wondered about the remote towns in Ontario and Quebec far to the north. What a perfect video!
@言行一致 intéressant! Can I ask why your name is in Chinese, you respond in French but your profile is in Russian? You must speak a lot of languages :D
Interesting. My parents met in Schefferville and got married in 1961 (I turned up, soon afterward).
My Father got laid off from his job as a Dispatcher around the same time, and they left - never to go back. I do have some photos my father took from that time, but not much else.
You are one of the few people who can say that they are from Schefferville
Thanks.
I used to travel frequently from Switzerland to Eastern part of Canada for private and business reasons, a region and people I like.
And had several discussions on railway, public transports with local "experts" - to understand that even those "experts" do not understand what the advantages of a railway network could be for Canada.
Friends of mine from Switzerland - railway fans - have travelled by train to Churchill years ago. Maybe I try to use the train to Shefferville on a future trip to Québec.
@@supmdude1527 While Jean-Emmanuel Rotzetter, i.e., the guy from Switzerland might not fully fathom the scale of difficulty between running a rail network in a small country vs. a very large one, as a Swiss, he would very well be aware of what thawing and frosting cycles do to rail lines. Switzerland is a cold and mountainous country, often under snow.
@@RamPMonyPers The coldest ever reported temperature in Switzerland was -41.8° C. These temperatures are a regular occurrence in communities like Schererville with the coldest recorded temperature in the town itself being -50.6°C with average low temperature in January being -29.8°C. Winters in Canadian northern communities are not comparable to Switzerland whatsoever. There's also the issue of size. The area of the province of Quebec is 1.668 million square km. The entirety of Switzerland is only 41,285 square km. The large size and sparse population makes it prohibitively expensive to building anything in northern communities. Switzerland and Canada are not comparable.
@@martins.2502 I did say there was the issue of size. However, even if Scheferville is much colder, by your own statistics, Switzerland can indeed get very cold. So it's not as if Swiss railways don't have to deal with their own icy cold weather issues. In Scheferville, those same issues are just magnified, but it certainly can't mean that Swiss rail engineers have no technical expertise on them.
@@supmdude1527 I am not overlooking that point. I was just replying to Martin's comment, where he is presupposing that the Swiss cannot understand the situation in Schefferville just because it isn't cold enough in Switzerland! That's all.
@@supmdude1527 Point accepted.
Canada is a truly massive country with staggering infrastructure costs. These communities of a few hundred (at most) people simply are not financially or socially sustainable by a financially responsible government.
Speaking as a Brit living in London England, I have done every railway line in Canada except Churchill, including Schefferville. I cleared Yukon to Nova Scotia in 7 trips. Canada is so small.....
In 1967 I spent some time in Schefferville and Labrador City. I was up there to install telephone switching equipment for QNSLR. QNSLR besides running the trains also ran the telephone system. Very cold in February at around -50 F. No trains for me; I flew on F27 aircraft operated by Quebecair. Great little 36 passenger propellor driven planes . Yes its remote, but an interesting place to visit.
A real cdn.just hope you didn't get into a punch up with any MacDonalds up there.
There’s multiple trains like this in Canada, not just the TRT. The Polar Bear Express, the train to Churchill or now the train on the old ACR.
So true. And the train on the old ACR doesn't even run anymore, just the tourist excursion in the fall that runs from Sault Ste. Marie to the Agawa Canyon.
@@troutcloudThe new Agawa Canyon Railway (owned by Watco) has been in talks with Doug Ford to get the same deal the Ontario Northland got to restart the Northlander (brand new VIA equipment), but those talks failed
To be fair. You can't really expect the Canadian government to spend millions of dollars on a really long nationalised railway that leads to a town of only 200 people. That wouldn't be fair against the taxpayers in the rest of Canada. Imagine your government announcing that they are gonna spend 30 million on a single apartment block every year. That wouldn't be in proportion compared to the value of the property.
We do it all of the time. The survival of the country depends on it.
This is not an isolated case by far. This is actually quite accessible and close to major centres by Canadian standards.
@@katherinegilks3880 “survival of the country”
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me How did you get those distances? It's about 500km overland to Sept Iles...not to mention you can't drive there from well, anywhere as there are no roads. The flight distance to QC is about 950 km- not 3000.
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Quebecer here. Schefferville like other similar town in norther Canada and Quebec only exist because of they industries needed a place to house the workers of the mines they were never meant to become permanent settlements. When the Mine close they have no reason to exist anymore. For some reason stubborn people decide to stay and complain their shit town is dead and everything is expansive.
Fun fact : Montreal and Quebec are at the same latitude as Central Europe and further South as Britain!
But alot cooler in temperature & fun.
In 1989 I rode the entire main line of the Quebec North Shore & Labrador. Sept Iles to Schefferville Thursday and stayed overnight Thursday-Friday at Schefferville in the Hotel Royale. The shower head came apart in the my hand as I tried to adjust it--fortunately I wasn't soaped up so there went the idea of a shower. Trying to remember if there was any place open for breakfast! Missed the change to ride around the turning loop. Friday rode to Ross Bay Jct. and switched to the branch line train to Labrador City--which line is now freight-only. Stayed Friday night in Wabush at what was called the Sir Wilfred Grenfell Hotel. Flew Labrador City to Quebec City Saturday afternoon after a private tour of the iron ore railway--yes, I saw the automated one in operation. Schefferville was largely a ghost town in 1989; I read it was later revived a bit but I guess it is largely abandoned now. That can happen to mining town--but I have seen the interior of Labrador. "Fun" Fact: I've been to Labrador but NOT Newfoundland. Yes, I know the Province is now named "Newfoundland and Labrador": half a million in Newfoundland and only 30,000 in Labrador. I even know about Newfoundland's Colonial Building Riot of April 5, 1932 in St. John's, an event similar but less deadly than our American January 6, 2021 festivities at our Capitol. But in 1989 the Word of the Iron Ore Company of Canada was LAW in the area; they had built the RR in the 1950's and their former President was now Prime Minster of Canada so no matter what the Province of Quebec said there were signs in English all over Sept Iles and Schefferville. At the QNS&L station the signs with the rules were in FIVE languages, English, French, and three Indian languages.
OK, once I get new speakers I may watch your video. Neat to read below of Schefferville AND the Eastern Townships which I finally got to in 2003 after having been told by someone from there about them in 1976. What Vermont would be like if they weren't Americans and everyone spoke Quebecois French! More Americans should visit there even is the Quebec Central Railway is sadly now largely gone!
The TRT is a great initiative, I hope either it or projects like it can expand to other isolated indigenous communities across this country.
There are a few other indigenous railways across the country that we sadly couldn't fit into this video , definitely check them out!
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I truly appreciate it,
Thank you,
Cheers 🍻
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Thanks Nick! Glad your also into the smaller scale stories. We hope we can cover a wide variety of big and small topics in the future if people are into it
A+ quality videos as usual.
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Such great content! Cheers from Montreal!
speaking candidly from my personal perspective, you could live in an old mining town with a population of 12,823 as of 2016 and trust me, the federal governments still gonna make you feel as if youre a bunch of barnacles on a rock.
Just fascinating! Thanks! I had no idea of this route or the community it services.
Northeastern Quebec and Western Labrador sure are overlooked places to explore in Canada, I for one salute those small wonders!
As a 🇨🇦, Im glad to see things like this (the rail handoff) to locals. Hopefully they can turn the tide from "loss" to marginal profit (or break even). Im glad to hear stories about businesses and opportunities for indigenous communities. Need some kind of stimulus programs for business development in these places (other than casinos and tax-free shops).
Good cover of this story. 👍
I was looking at my world map last week and landed on the Yukon.
I started thinking how northern Canada seems to be one of the most forgotten places in the world. I never hear anything about it and can't really picture it.
Yukon is full of Mountains and natural beauty
The western side of Yukon borders Alaska and they share the similar mountain ranges. The tallest mountain in Canada is in the Yukon.
The Yukon is a friendly place. In my experience people look out for one another. Everything there feels infinitely far from the rest of the world.
It's not any different from the remote parts of Siberia. The climate is very harsh and almost nobody live there. The few villages that exist are extremely isolated and make transportation extraordinarily expensive.
The White Pass and Yukon Railroad goes to Carcross, YT. I have done that, and every railway line in Canada (except Churchill) including Schefferville, plus all 5 railways in Alaska. Regards from London England.
Great videos about a city like no others here in Québec. Nobody talk about Sherveville outside Sherveville. Is a city full of history lost in the north. If you have the chance to go there don't miss it, it will need some planning and you will never forget it.
Really love the video about my province! They're so much interesting history and cultural dynamic here, but rarely see videos about it... Really seeing forward for new videos about Canada! :)
In may, I took the Zephyr from SanFransisco (Everett) to Chicago (54h) ! I recommend it BTW Fantastic trip. This ride to Shefferville seems to be worth it and a short trip. Have been a few time in La Tuque, lake St Jean etc...
Well researched and presented. Thank you.
Coming from Baie-Comeau (a town near sept-iles) it’s actually very nice to see a UA-camr make a professional video about these remote places that even Canadians don’t know
Yep blarney Muldoon is famous there also
I agree. 11 Brits loved Schefferville during our visit. We reckon it is the most scenic railway in all of Canada. We know. We have done them all. Regards from London England.
Thank you, I live a few hours west of the line, and I always wondered why the gov doesn't connect the whole region by train
I grew up in Sept-Iles. Went to Queen Elisabeth High School and graduated 1971. Our class took a trip to Labrador City. What a beautiful Landscape. Love this Video.
"Tshiwetin" train! The Innu aimun name for Canada "Northwest wind"! Great memories of being there and on that train in the deep freeze winter. Very interesting story. Tks!
Cheers. I think it is my favourite Canadian railroad and I have done all of them (except Churchill). Regards from London England.
55 million dollars for a town with a population of 213 people
Its universal and can happen everywhere.
In my country denmark there are a few forgotten towns, but i believe a lot more will arrive because when the tiny general store closes then its just a matter of when people will forget
In your country, Denmark , you practiced Genocide of the Women of Greenland? A few forgotten towns , but thousand’s of Women won’t ever forget .
Med unntak at Danmark er 40 km langt
@@laurie113 Han har vel ikkje hatt noe med folkmord og gjøre du! Som amerikaner er du ansvarlig for de indianernes situasjon?
For so few people, it would make more sense to have them all forcibly relocated to a bigger town like Sept-Iles. The brits did something similar in the Hebrides, so it's not like it's unheard of. It makes little sense to keep a settlement in such an inhospitable place.
There's a place like that up north in Pukatawagan, Manitoba. Only way is plane or train, and winter time is when the winter road opens.
I've been to Schefferville working as a hunting guide for an outfitter in the late 80's. During IOC years this train was nicknamed " le train des cocus".
Very interesting video about this "Forgotten Canadian Town" 🤔🤔🤔
Great job man. 👍👍👍
Unfortunately Canada does not care about all reserves across Canada. I’ve lived and worked on one and worked at multiple other ones and it’s sad. But First Nations people are very resilient and amazing.
Sad but true
It's because the system of reserves is a cancer that hurts both Canada and the First Nations. It hurts Canada since they have to pay for basically everything in the reserves, including welfare for a big part of the population and gets no taxes since there are none on reserves. This leads to Canada spending as little as possible on reserves as it is an investment without return, which keeps the FIrst Nation in perpetual poverty. And since they are poor, they don't want the reserve system to go away, since they would lose guaranteed welfare and would have to pay taxes, which leads to our current status quo, which has lasted decades and will last decades more.
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me that is very well said.
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me the only thing Canada is doing is giving back a few crumbs to the fist nation's own table, it a bargain for the Canadians they got Canada out of the deal.
Faultline - "Canada is by no means known for rail travel"
Me - The linking of East and the West of Canada, celebrated by "the golden spike" is one of the most important and celebrated moments in Canadian history.
Also - Culture Trip ranked "Rocky Mountaineer" as *the best rail trip in the world* last year.
(Conde Naste readers ranked "The Canadian" and "The Rocky Mountaineer" as the 2nd and 3rd best train trips in the world in 2022).
My partner's family used to live in a town south of Schefferville - Gagnon - which was razed to the ground when the mining company left. His sister was even born there. She's a high school teacher and loves to shock her students by saying that she was born in a ghost town. He was just a little kid but he clearly rememembers taking the train down to Sept-Îles to then travel elsewhere in the province to visit grandparents and stuff.
I drive through Gagnon almost every year. I always stop there to stretch my legs and eat a sandwich I brought
The camera spinning around the map is so dizzying. Just keep it north up when you’re zooming in or out please
I grew up in a small town in the territories. I had many friends and family. I loved it. I was always outside or in the arena.
seems a for more sensible option would be to invest in Air, you only need to maintain 2 points, as opposed to 100's of miles of railway in unpopulated regions. A converted C-130 would be sufficient for Cargo and Passengers. It would end far cheaper, be far more immune to weather , and far more flexible.
Rode the train to Schefferville in 1970 and 1971 - beautiful train ride, meals in the dining car were served on metal trays like those used in army mess halls. Stayed at the hotel Le Montaignais. I haven't been back since, but was ab[e to look down on it and the Menihek dam and lake from the plane I was on returning from Europe.
forced resettling is such an awful thing to do to people 😢 wishing the best for these communities to recover in whichever way they know is best for them
Forced resettling causes intergenerational trauma which takes decades to heal. It is inhumane and cruel.
what exactly would you consider forced resettling? i dont believe anyone is coming in to demand they move into civilization or forfeit their town.. but i dont think we as a country have to fund a town of people to live in the middle of nowhere and provide nothing of value to the rest of the nation.. im sure theyre more than capable of being self sufficient in the community, why do we owe them each a cheque every month, piles of government programs, and a subsidized railway costing millions a year
its not realistic to run a country like that, and its part of the reason we are in the situation we are now, with inflation soaring, no one wanting to work, and everyone expecting the government to handle everything for them..
@@AndrewBrowner ok residential school supporter. 🤣🤣🤣
@@nuraby_9228 thats quite the leap... i could care less what anyone does with their life/free time, i certainly dont advocate for mandatory government funded boarding schools, my whole point was we shouldnt be subsidizing people to live in the woods not contributing to the economy in an extremely remote and expensive region.. they can live there all they want, im thrilled people live in the wilderness its great i respect the hell out of it.. just do it self sufficiently though dont stand there with your hands out moaning theres no work, food, infrastructure ect ect in the middle of a baren wasteland
Nobody's forcing anyone to resettle. If you have a job there and live in the town, you can continue to do so. But it sounds like people just WANT to live there, and, lacking means of survival, expect the rest of the country to fund their lifestyle. I hate this dilution that's going on. Everything is an assault now. Everything is violence. Everything is traumatic. Everything is forced. This minimizes and discounts the damage to and suffering of REAL victims. You know what IS forced resettling? When the communists came for the ethnic Ukrainians in SE Poland, loaded people onto trucks and trains, and randomly scattered them throughout the entire country. THAT'S FORCED. STFU with your bleeding heart nonsense.
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I have to ask though - when you display a map on the screen, why render it ROTATING?? It would be MUCH MORE USEFUL to see a map with compass directions, and one that doesn't move about when trying to look at it.. I realise I can pause the video... But rotating the maps is adding nothing qualitative to your production... and meanwhile it detracts from the user experience.
Actually some footage in the clip of nicer trains are from Russian RZD trains not Canadian ones.
You may want to check out Churchill MB....interesting story to told there also
Top video m8. Living in London uk & watching informative stuff like this is really satisfying as odd as that may sound. I do love Canada I think it’s the shear size the beauty and the people. The people seem to be so in touch and calm with life. I had an uncle who just passed who lived there for over 60yrs so he was a Canadian and when he came over to the east end to visit my nan he would speak highly of the country and life there. 👍🏼
I also live in London, England ! I have done the railway to Schefferville. I reckon it is one of the best in Canada. I have also done every railway line in Canada except Churchill. Plus bits of America, including all five railways in Alaska. Done all of Blighty, Ireland, Portugal, Norway, and most of Europe.
I have lived in a small town in Canada and I never felt uncared for. What an ignorant thing to say. Small communities don't have what large communities have to offer. Canada is free and you can live anywhere you want. Where ever you choose to live don't snivel.
I spent 1967 to 1968 working as the mcgill lab in schefferville.. worked on the weather station..
This is awesome. The people living up there (and in many northern Indigenous communities in Canada) deserve to have the story of their (far too many) struggles highlighted like this. I live in a different Canadian province and I know there are similar issues like this with many of those communities up north. Well done.
hard to say Canada "doesn't care about" Shefferville when they were willing to subsidize the rail travel...
I live in Calgary and my mom moved up to Kugluktuk for work. She saves so many puppies. There's no veterinary care unless you can afford to ship your dog to yellowknife, and if your dog dies its easy to just get a new one. She fosters dozens of puppies a year before sending them down south.
Awesome video!
A friend of mine is a teacher there! Was surprised to see this video on my fyp haha
I worked at TATA steel, 30 min outside of Schefferville on FIFO.
There’s still a good deal of mining going on. TATA is a fairly new operation and not the only new project in the area. Labrador iron mines has a nice new operation up there as well.
I certainly wouldn’t want to live there but many do and it’s making a comeback.
would love to see people be able to get out of civilization and live more remotely if thats what they prefer, great to see some industry to give them some income and opportunity.. i just hope we dont continue to subsidize them the whole way, every needs to be striving for self sufficiency not constantly looking to the government for a hand out and to solve all their problems
Such a well produced video about my home country! (Although the opposite side haha)
Moosonee Ontario is only reachable by rail. Ontario Northland rail has kept going to keep servicing the town and James Bay reserves. The Ontario government has promised a road in since PapaTrudeau days. There is a provincial hospital in Moose factory ready to fall down.
My father was among the first to move to Schefferville in 1954. He was born in Montreal, had the opportunity to go work there. My 2 brothers and I were born there. Moved to Labrador City in 1960, back in Montreal in 1966. Maybe that is why I love the cold snowy winter :))
Canada may not have Europe’s train network but the country was founded on the railroad and in some areas it is part of the culture. So saying that railway is not important in Canada could not be further from the truth.
Nice name
I've never heard of this place. I used to live in Lab city as a kid, but we moved away during one of the bust cycles.
I just love how much I learn from this man
I was born in Schefferville on April 1964. I was the only blonde blue-eyed girl in the Hospital. I now live in the USA. I would like to go back and visit some day.
Both sides of the Line (USA and Canada) have long ignored their native populations. We both now have some First Nation/Native Americans in our national governments and I can only hope that a seat at the table will serve to highlight the dire status of these nations. And perhaps help to lift them out of poverty without sacrificing their culture and languages.
I traveled this rail line with my grandfather back in the 70s. All I remember is being incredibly bored. Maybe there was some nice scenery, but I couldn't see much through the trees.
You had to be in the car with the native "Indians"! I did in excellent company. Now, they own the Company!!
@@jossdionne9810 No such luck. I was on some kind of industrial iron ore train with a small crew which my grandfather was part of. No passengers except myself and my best friend's older brother. My only encounter with indigenous people at the time was seeing slums they unfortunately lived in.
@@chadbertrand1460 Wow, heavy load! The first time I went up, that was a very old passenger train for miners. We were 3 guys, 1 white 1 Indian, one half and half. Rushing full speed crazy train in a snow storm.
Somewhat similar Moosonee Ontario it’s only accessed by train as well.
To travel to Moosonee you catch the train in Cochrane Ontario, it’s roughly a five hour trip.
I have done both Schefferville and Moosonee. Alas the Northlander from Toronto no longer runs. You folks need to vote out your politicians !! Regards from London England.
I once took the train from Toronto to Vancouver (4 days and 4 nights) then from Vancouver to Seattle, WA and from Seattle to Portland, OR. Beautiful journey all the way, and travelling by train is such an amazing experience (especially through the Rockies)
My dad works at the train station in schefferville and thats mostly my transportation to sept ils
Maybe the reason the Canadian government doesn't give a damn about this town is because it only has 200 people. The government giving it a subsidy of 55 million is the same thing as cutting a check for 275,000 per person. Would it not have made more sense to just give them a fraction of that money to move out of this place?
That's what they did in nfld when it became a canadian province.hundreds of smaller communities were relocated.if u didn't want to move they just cut back on services until u had no other choice but accept .this is still going on today
Did they live there for generations or were they forced to resettle there in the 60s like you said at the start?
If they had been forced to resettle why didn't they leave when the mine closed like the other people.
Instead the Canadian tax payers are out 55mil for 100 people to live somewhere that is totally unviable without total subsistence on the government because there is no economic reason to be there.
Interesting video! Just an fyi: Naskapi Country is called St'aschinuw, and the Innu nation's country is called Nitassinan (the names of their territories, a bit like Basque Country or how the Scottish territory is called Scotland, or Alba)
Just a little personal peeve, I think the ticking sound effect is overused. Love your videos though!
The Canadian government still pays for that line of track and the upkeep
I live in kawawa 13 years and in town of schefferville,naskapis and innus they are very nice peoples they are generose ,they give caribou,birds,fishes,i learn naskapi and i nominated by old naskapi chef joue gouanish naskapi boy .
Am I the only one or does Canada look a bit like a squirrel in the thumbnail?
Now I can’t un see it 🐿️
In my youth, I always wanted to move to Schefferville, but could could never get farther than MTL, there is still hope for future _ _ _ _ _ _ _ mines in the area
Did you run across Nanook of the North while you were out and around up there?
Why couldn’t it be a tourist railway? I’m Canadian, have travelled coast to coast by rail and have never heard of this railway. I’d take it. Subsidize some onboard upgrades like a real dining car serving native game and local fish. Some native cultural interpreters on the activities lounge. Glassed panorama car. Sleeping cabins.
I wonder whether the TSH (TRT was the old reporting mark) would consider moving the train to an overnight schedule considering the long journey times and the limited stops along the way. Arriving in Sept-Îles in the morning would also allow passengers to transfer to YZV airport or ferries.
I also wonder whether they would also consider extending the service to Labrador City-Wabush - running a section from Sept-Îles to Emeril Junction.
sounds familiar.... Ottawa does not care about Vancouver or BC. The roads, freeways and bridges are a joke. The ferries break down every weekend. Greyhound stopped running. Passenger trains stopped service 20 years ago.
Nothing like a 55million loan for a town with no economic output.
The local pub in scheffervilles dart board has a photo of blarney Muldoon on it.
There is another town ,Gagnon , near the Manicouagan artificial lake, was also a mining town, was shutdown in 1985. No one is living there now though.
this is the best way to protect them honestly, i bet the chinese have not driven real estate prices up in that town for example
I'd never heard of Schefferville before and I'm Canadian. Thanks for this.
Longest train ride: Regina Sk to Vancouver BC in 1964 $320.00 for 6 people return. Took about 36 hours I think. Longest flight last May: from Nanaimo BC to Vancouver BC to Calgary Ab to Winnipeg Mb to Calgary Ab to Saskatoon Sk and by car to Regina 54 hours. I remember the train being relaxing too, and way more fun! Shortest trip on a train Cuyahoga Valley RR in Ohio 2.5 hr round trip for $16