How to diagnose engine oil consumption. Compression and leak-down test | Redline Update #6

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  • @neilgreen007
    @neilgreen007 2 роки тому +13

    Three years later and this video is the gift that keeps on giving. What an excellent presentation. Thank you!

  • @daviddntait
    @daviddntait 5 років тому +20

    Ok I'm just baffled and annoyed that someone would dislike this guys videos!! He is very much the same kind of guy that taught me all the knowledge I have and I very much enjoy these tutorials. People pay tuition to learn far less than Davin can teach you in minutes.

  • @kmburges
    @kmburges 5 років тому +41

    I have become addicted to redline rebuild videos Maybe more so than watching breaking bad. I think the first clue of my Addiction was when I reschedule a quarter end results staff meeting to watch the Buick nailhead update video number 4

    • @beetee801
      @beetee801 5 років тому +5

      Im glad you have your priorities in order. 👍

    • @CLVannoy
      @CLVannoy 3 роки тому

      Keep living your dreams

  • @egomezmx65
    @egomezmx65 5 років тому +2

    Another success of a video! and even when the diagnostic was not good I'm glad it happened so we can enjoy more of your videos!!! Thanks a lot for taking the time! They are clear, very well produced and with an excellent crew!!!

  • @greasemonkeychris4128
    @greasemonkeychris4128 5 років тому +5

    When doing a leakage test I've always just balanced that particular cylinder on TDC so you don't have to worry about the engine swinging around and valves opening on you. Start off with #1 top dead and work your way through the firing order. Can use something long and thin like a welding rod or a long screwdriver through the plug hole to feel when the piston stops. 👍

  • @kenkinder6433
    @kenkinder6433 5 років тому +2

    Bought an 1978 GMC 3/4 ton pick up big block454 at very low price with all plugs fouling. Did compression tests all good enough. Intake manifold looked wet, so cleaned, tanked and then magna fluxed. Filings showed crack running from side to side right under the carb intake. It was sucking oil up through crank case. Installed new intake manifold and no more fouling. I used and abused the truck for years and sold it to a friend and still running strong with no fouling. Workhorse gust gas hog averaged 12.5 mpg.

  • @OldCarAlley
    @OldCarAlley 5 років тому +1

    My diagnoses is, stuck oil control ring on cylinder 3 for sure, and sticky oil ring on the rest, from short runs and lack of oil changes.The oil looked nasty when it was drained. It will be interesting to see, when you get it apart, what the true problem is. Great video!

  • @jesuslite2000
    @jesuslite2000 4 роки тому

    Thank you for taking the time to really explain what you are testing and why. Seeing the process as a whole really helps me know how to approach my own engine issue diagnosis.

  • @dimitrisv7068
    @dimitrisv7068 5 років тому +18

    Ahhh you are the best Greetings from Greece !!! 🇬🇷🇺🇸

    • @kurioskabourhs2089
      @kurioskabourhs2089 5 років тому +2

      πσσστ κιαλος ελληνας εδω

    • @dimitrisv7068
      @dimitrisv7068 5 років тому +2

      Δωνεεε !! Παντού είμαστε

    • @bruhmomentum1994
      @bruhmomentum1994 5 років тому +2

      Παμε ρε

    • @User_76ytrl
      @User_76ytrl 4 роки тому +1

      Hello my friend nice Video
      Καλησπέρα πατριώτες
      👍 🇬🇷

  • @mortenvanvik7082
    @mortenvanvik7082 5 років тому +6

    Nice video! Tomorrow my rebuilt muncie M21 4 speed gearbox is going in my '72 Camaro and I will start my 396 again! So looking forward to driving her again. And more videos from you. All the best from Norway.

    • @trillrifaxegrindor4411
      @trillrifaxegrindor4411 5 років тому +2

      best of luck,you are a very lucky guy.check and recheck everything you can and make sure to setup your clutch,pressure plate etc right.(im sure you will)_

    • @mortenvanvik7082
      @mortenvanvik7082 5 років тому +1

      @@trillrifaxegrindor4411 Thank you! Yes I'm lucky and, yes, I will check and recheck. This is my hobby so no rush. All the best to you!

  • @Slicezwow
    @Slicezwow 5 років тому +31

    Keep these videos coming! I love this professional step by step methology to solving problems.
    Out of curiosity what would you recon a service like this would cost the owner?
    Keep up the good work! All the best from Denmark

  • @BarterBales
    @BarterBales 5 років тому +1

    My Honda magna was burning oil and this video saved my ass. Thanks guys!

  • @blkdna748
    @blkdna748 5 років тому +1

    Yaaaa we I'll be watching new rebuild. This is the perfect way to diagnos engine. Thank you for the class.

  • @usedsocks89
    @usedsocks89 5 років тому

    Genius! Thanks a million for making the walkthrough. It’s makes so much easier because I have a 442 and had no clue how to diagnose the issue.

  • @pandusaragih2352
    @pandusaragih2352 5 років тому +2

    If the rings are bad, try check the dipstick after/while the engine running. Piston rings should seal oil & combustion chamber in two way, if the rings broke exhaust gas will pass through the ring and you can find exhaust gases from dipstick.

  • @thierrypereira4137
    @thierrypereira4137 5 років тому +6

    The King of diagnostic👍🏻

  • @garthhowe297
    @garthhowe297 5 років тому

    Thanks! That is the best, most straight-forward explanation of these tests I have seen.

  • @babayaga_wick1638
    @babayaga_wick1638 5 років тому +1

    Thank you, i had a problem recently with my 4.6 grand marquis. I coudnt figure out where the oil was consuming. It didnt had no leaks. Thank you so much

  • @iambrian6601
    @iambrian6601 5 років тому

    That’s some of the most educational engine diagnostics I’ve seen. Mind you I can turn the wrench but don’t know why. Kind of a lego piece rebuilder if you will. Learning the why is fascinating. Thanks!

  • @MartinodePueblo
    @MartinodePueblo 5 років тому +2

    Love the content! Can't wait for the next video about this engine! Greetings from Holland!

  • @Oscarphone
    @Oscarphone 5 років тому +2

    From looking at the other plugs, the ones covered with ash, I'd say the motor is running hot consistently (wrong octane fuel or low quality fuel). The ash could also be from a small bit of oil leakage into a hotter cylinder. Not all oil burning shows up as an oil foul symptom like the plug he is working on. Great vid. I'd like to find out in a future video what the ash deposits are from for sure.

  • @kadenwood9278
    @kadenwood9278 2 роки тому

    It’s crazy that you guys put out these videos for free.

  • @erickwise2068
    @erickwise2068 5 років тому +3

    These videos are so good, love em, please post more!

  • @rogergoodman8665
    @rogergoodman8665 5 років тому +2

    Very informative video! Sad though for an engine that was rebuilt only a few years ago, but to be expected I suppose since apparently everyone & their brother are allowed to drive the SS like they stole it without repercussions. Well, like you said, we'll get to see the 396 rebuilt again!

  • @jc-qc3yu
    @jc-qc3yu 4 роки тому

    It’s always a pleasure to see you doing your thing thank you for the information brother

  • @cjlawrence03
    @cjlawrence03 5 років тому

    Enjoy all your Redline videos and especially this one. Learned a lot. Keep them coming!!

  • @Mister006
    @Mister006 5 років тому

    Davin's the real deal. I'm glad he's in a good place (plus, free to help us understand some serious engine stuff) and not in some cheap twisted shop with cheap and twisted people.

  • @shawnmrfixitlee6478
    @shawnmrfixitlee6478 5 років тому

    well that says it all , Time for a rebuild ! .. Sure had hope on the valve seals being the problem .. ENJOYED

  • @williamg.rodeschin7811
    @williamg.rodeschin7811 5 років тому +2

    This is a great series....more!

  • @marcryvon
    @marcryvon 5 років тому

    Thanks to you, this ol' geeser here learned something new today ! Kudos !

  • @idrivearttabletennis
    @idrivearttabletennis 5 років тому +2

    Great explanation - thanks for doing this.

  • @RadRidesByCru
    @RadRidesByCru 5 років тому +6

    All the dislikes are from people who work at the machine shop that built this Camaro's engine.

  • @oliversworldofwheels4910
    @oliversworldofwheels4910 5 років тому +2

    More already! Awesome! Nice job! Love the video like always!

  • @sonyhk3824
    @sonyhk3824 5 років тому +3

    Great job. Cheers guys

  • @BillyN31
    @BillyN31 5 років тому

    My favorite channel on UA-cam!!!

  • @ecmjr
    @ecmjr 5 років тому +1

    Learned some new stuff and love the image quality of the video!

    • @Hagerty
      @Hagerty  5 років тому

      Thank you for watching! More to come.

  • @scotforman1894
    @scotforman1894 5 років тому

    Great video. I learned so much. Of how to do it the right way.
    Something else that can cause this exact problem is a intake manifold gasket failure between the oil passage and the air intake runner

    • @daviddntait
      @daviddntait 5 років тому

      Yup I fixed that issue a couple times on later model 5.7, 5.0, and 4.3 Chevy engines.

    • @CanadaBud23
      @CanadaBud23 5 років тому

      Could be, unfortunately you'd have to take the manifold off to find out lol. Ya never know, we'll find out when he tears that bish apart!

  • @radarnj8043
    @radarnj8043 5 років тому +1

    I was taught if you step on the throttle and get blue smoke its rings. If you back off the throttle and get blue smoke it's valves.

  • @prtyof4156
    @prtyof4156 5 років тому

    You guys are putting together some great videos!
    Keep it up!

  • @Formulabruce
    @Formulabruce 5 років тому +3

    Curious on new ring choice.

  • @gnarlytothemax
    @gnarlytothemax 5 років тому

    love watching these. theraputic somehow..

  • @VNSavedStuff2011
    @VNSavedStuff2011 2 роки тому

    Excellent explanation! Thank you. Very helpful.

  • @johnschutt9187
    @johnschutt9187 5 років тому

    I love watching your videos. Thank you!

  • @organicmechanic1662
    @organicmechanic1662 5 років тому +2

    Hey don't forget that oil can get into cylinders from bad valve guides and worn valve stems also.

  • @invertedpolarity6890
    @invertedpolarity6890 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for these great videos.

  • @SR-fm1ft
    @SR-fm1ft 5 років тому +2

    Great video thanks! Question; when performing the leak down test does it matter where the piston is in relation to TDC?

    • @johnmilner7603
      @johnmilner7603 5 років тому +1

      No, as long as you loosen the rocker arms so the valves can close. I like to tap the spring retainer to seal the valves in case of carbon build up. But if you don't want to loosen the rocker arms then you need the piston of that cyl at TDC on compression stroke so both valves are closed.

  • @WilliamDye-willdye
    @WilliamDye-willdye 5 років тому

    Excellent walkthrough.

  • @alislom94
    @alislom94 5 років тому

    Very good information thanks for your hard working..... I appreciate that....... Greetings from Syria.....

  • @Greaseland
    @Greaseland 4 роки тому +1

    Sometimes oil can get in the intake port from the bottom of the intake manifold.

    • @fila1445
      @fila1445 4 роки тому

      But that still means you have blowby at rings and oil gets to intake by PCV hose

  • @bradthompson5865
    @bradthompson5865 5 років тому +1

    Very informative video! Can you expand on what causes the white color on spark plugs? I have an oil consumption problem and have been trying to track it down, after putting new spark plugs in very recently and pulling them to do compression and leak down tests I noticed that all 4 plugs(dodge 2.4L turbo) have a white residue on the ground electrode. Any pointers to send me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. Cheers!

  • @stymiesnerdly771
    @stymiesnerdly771 5 років тому

    Great content! Loving this series, but if you ever get back to traveling & working on other people's cars, my garage door is open!

  • @compt3ck
    @compt3ck 5 років тому

    Make sure the throttle is open when doing the compression test for best results. Great videos

    • @compt3ck
      @compt3ck 5 років тому

      I was mentioning it mainly for people doing it for the first time themselves.

  • @danieltahin4164
    @danieltahin4164 3 роки тому

    Really good video. It makes clear what really causes high oil consumption (...the rings and not a leak somewhere). If I buy a used car, is there a reliable way to detect if the car has already a high oil consumption (like 1 litre pro 1000 miles) ? Does the compression test also work if there is a lot of carbon built up on the oil control rings ?

  • @ALABAMAHEADHUNTER
    @ALABAMAHEADHUNTER 5 років тому +2

    Engines out ! Looking forward to the rebuild , the 396 is my favorite engine .

  • @ellieprice3396
    @ellieprice3396 4 роки тому

    Great instructional video. Question; How do you correctly determine the compression ratio? I know how to figure cylinder and compression chamber volumes but not how to determine dished pistons and piston clearance to the top ring. Thanks

  • @dinoibrahim2665
    @dinoibrahim2665 2 роки тому

    Thanks. I greatly appreciate it.A good video and explanations

  • @hidmagnum
    @hidmagnum 5 років тому

    Dropping knowledge one video at a time. 👌

    • @Hagerty
      @Hagerty  5 років тому

      Many more to come!

  • @daveanderson5680
    @daveanderson5680 5 років тому +1

    The WHITE on the spark plugs is made by water vapor from the PVC system.....the ring blow-by contains the water vapor....a by-product of previously burned fuel being reintroduced back into the combustion chamber instead of going out the exhaust the first time around

    • @johnmilner7603
      @johnmilner7603 5 років тому

      Dave Anderson that's why I made a catch can.

  • @alicutz79
    @alicutz79 5 років тому

    I didnt movt watching this video, very good job, i have the same issue whit my passat, drinks 1 liter of oil at 2000 km, will try to find out here someone who could do compression an leakdown tests, thank you for this info

  • @gsonn18
    @gsonn18 Місяць тому

    Thank you!

  • @cruisingdanny4974
    @cruisingdanny4974 5 років тому

    Very informative, learned a lot! Still don't really get what causes the valve stem seals to leak, could somebody explain?

  • @bymancini1
    @bymancini1 5 років тому

    Wonderful tools man !

  • @kristofbordas1993
    @kristofbordas1993 5 років тому +2

    Beautiful!!!

  • @compt3ck
    @compt3ck 5 років тому

    Chalky white ash deposits is usually fuel additives or oil burning. Looks like #3 was so bad it oil fouled. Time to rebuild and make some big block power.

  • @jakeweg4886
    @jakeweg4886 5 років тому +1

    What about oil from the pcv or a bad intake seal?

  • @johnmilner7603
    @johnmilner7603 5 років тому

    If you add oil through the plug hole and the engine is on an angle, that oil will sit on the low side of the block. How's the oil going to get over to the other side on the intake side? I love watching others wrench cause I wrench too. Keep the videos coming guys.

    • @brand-x7049
      @brand-x7049 5 років тому +2

      Oil will wick into the space between the piston and cylinder around the rings, and as soon as the motor is spun, it will spread and seal.

  • @nikosraptis1985
    @nikosraptis1985 2 роки тому

    Hello there, thanks for sharing and Merry Christmas!
    Is the oil on the thread of the spark plugs and indication of damage?
    If you see the thread of nearly all of them are too oily.
    Cheers...

  • @chrismannifield3222
    @chrismannifield3222 5 років тому +1

    With it that bad, I'd imagine you have an oil sample sent out to see fuel dilution, an intake leak on the underside of the intake will do this almost exactly as you've described

    • @ellieprice3396
      @ellieprice3396 4 роки тому

      A head gasket leak can also cause one or two cylinders to check low, but fouled plugs in this case indicates this is not the problem.

  • @joachimjohan1215
    @joachimjohan1215 5 років тому

    i wonder if the valve stem seals could have blowby and can it be heard when leakdown testing??
    also what do mean when you talk about the white crust on the sparkplug reffering to leaky stem seals? Thanks! Cheerz!

  • @trifivegarage8683
    @trifivegarage8683 5 років тому

    well explained thank you!

  • @alexly627
    @alexly627 4 роки тому

    Lol at 12:47.... the dreaded deep breath in to proceed with what you know is coming....

  • @guillermonieri4203
    @guillermonieri4203 5 років тому

    Thank you.

  • @2trkpony471
    @2trkpony471 5 років тому

    Great tutorial sir!

  • @themechanik5980
    @themechanik5980 5 років тому +1

    I have a question because it has always interested me, you can do a leak test, in a healthy motor so you can see how a healthy moter behaves there.

    • @Oscarphone
      @Oscarphone 5 років тому

      Sure.

    • @themechanik5980
      @themechanik5980 5 років тому

      Steve Prestek I mean I learned mechanic but I never did a test on a healthy / new engine. That’s was nice.

  • @Shane-Singleton
    @Shane-Singleton 5 років тому

    Showing how to troubleshoot it right. It sucks that it's the piston rings. Valve seals would have been much less of a costly pain in the butt to deal with. Although while you've got it apart I suspect that the heads will get a service too.

  • @deathbyhobbies
    @deathbyhobbies 2 місяці тому

    should the engine be warmed up before this?

  • @Adi-kr5nd
    @Adi-kr5nd 5 років тому +1

    Damn I'm only 14 and i actually learnt something, thanks

    • @marcryvon
      @marcryvon 5 років тому

      There's no age to learn something new, Adi.
      I'm 66, mechanichely inclined and do most of my cars, mower and snow equipment myself. I heard about Leak Down testing but never knew how it's done. Now, thanks to Davin (?), I know how and why.
      If you want to learn even more, look for "Mustie 1" on YT. This nice man is a VW Beetles and busses nut. He buys at garage sales or find on roadsides all kind of small engined equipment or bikes, fix them on the cheap and sell stuff on Craigslist. Amazing mechanic and great teacher at that.
      Check him out !

  • @mikechevelle3418
    @mikechevelle3418 Рік тому

    Awesome video. Thanks

  • @kalfoogaltmimi5043
    @kalfoogaltmimi5043 Рік тому

    Welcome
    We want to write a link to purchase the scan tool
    Thank you

  • @thesetruths1404
    @thesetruths1404 Рік тому

    Thanks for more info.
    Question for you, as to what product and how much you think I should use. I have a 1995 Subaru 1.8L 4-CYL boxer Impreza, 177,000 miles. I have 76 and 78 PSI dry compression in #2 and 4 of one head (driver side). This started a few days ago, we noticed while on a highway trip the power was weak and I can hear it missing as the RPMs drop from driving to idle.
    I don't have overheating, excessive oil consumption (drippy seals, I add a quart about every 900 miles), smoking, or fluids cross contamination. I'm waiting to have a leak down and another dry/wet compression test at a different shop. The first shop only did dry compression and wasn't too bright or helpful.
    If I end up having a head gasket leak between those two cylinders, what products would I possibly try to mend it? It must not be too bad of a leak, whatever it is, for the compression to build to 78psi dry. The other two good cylinders are 130ish psi.
    If it ends up being a valve leak, what products and strength could I try to get them clean? After cleaning, I will have valve clearances checked, as it's probably never been done.
    Thanks again.

  • @billwilliams6338
    @billwilliams6338 4 роки тому

    HAGERTY, why didn't you put the cylinder in TDC top deal center when doing the cylinder leak down test? you just removed the intake valve and exhaust value for only cylinder#3?

  • @petewitt2867
    @petewitt2867 5 років тому

    Great content. Thanks!

  • @stevenhauser653
    @stevenhauser653 Рік тому

    I have a 305 boat engine with all 180 and 1 cylinder with 150 what do you think about that? Spark plugs look the same, boat sitting for years and did not start it yet since it needs new manifolds. Thank you

  • @sashaeffer
    @sashaeffer 6 місяців тому

    Scored cylinder walls also a possibility?

  • @kachkhan8023
    @kachkhan8023 5 років тому

    Please do more videos like this. I wouldn’t mind a half an hour video😝

  • @ironfistarrival
    @ironfistarrival 5 років тому

    Hi , you should have hocked your battery to a Battery Charger while Cranking the
    Engine to avoid Discharging the battery , right ?

  • @Paul-qq7mh
    @Paul-qq7mh 5 років тому

    great video thanks.

  • @braleyshardwoodcustoms8584
    @braleyshardwoodcustoms8584 4 роки тому

    What's a good indicator I have a rear main leak?

  • @ozzstars_cars
    @ozzstars_cars 5 років тому +1

    That engine seems to have worn out prematurely. Who screwed up and what was it?

    • @isaakwelch3451
      @isaakwelch3451 5 років тому

      He did say it had a lot of heavy use. Who knows how many miles it has or how diligent they were with oil changes

  • @HaythamBuKhadra
    @HaythamBuKhadra 5 років тому +8

    The leak numbers on #3 are better than #5 because of the oil you squirted in them.

    • @HaythamBuKhadra
      @HaythamBuKhadra 5 років тому +4

      Also can't wait for the timelapse video.

    • @Hagerty
      @Hagerty  5 років тому +12

      Good point! Conclusion is the same, but yes, you are correct.

    • @johnmilner7603
      @johnmilner7603 5 років тому

      I didn't see him add oil to #3 cyl.

    • @brand-x7049
      @brand-x7049 5 років тому

      @@johnmilner7603 Looks like it got edited out for brevity after he wet-tested the one on the passenger side.

    • @brand-x7049
      @brand-x7049 5 років тому +1

      @@Hagerty Simple fact is that they're both leaking down, and the others probably would too, if they were checked - you generally don't bake just two cylinders... :)

  • @wcjcnc
    @wcjcnc 4 роки тому

    Why don’t you run the first gauge up to 100 PSI so that you can subtract the second gauge and get the exact percentage of leak down? Why do you stop at 90 PSI? Great video by the way. Most of the videos on UA-cam about how to perform this test are ridiculously wrong

  • @KornKorn-n8l
    @KornKorn-n8l 23 дні тому

    I have a 2014 2.0 TSI engine Tiguan volkswagen.
    I changed the spark plugs my self and there was oil on three spark plugs.
    Every 1400km the check oil level sign pops up.
    Can this be the problem where the engine burns oil.
    Or there is something else to check.
    Changing the engine top gasket should fix the problem?

  • @supermolibden5037
    @supermolibden5037 2 місяці тому

    I have a question for you. I have a 3.1 V6 engine (LHO, GM) and I have oil in the intake manifold. All spark plugs are very white, with white upper electrodes. Does this mean that oil is burned in this engine? Compression on all cylinders is equal and perfect, 190 psi . The oil quickly turns dark in color. I'm asking for help. Best regards, Adam from Poland

  • @nicknogalo1535
    @nicknogalo1535 5 років тому

    Where are you guys in MI? I’m from Sault ON so I’m more of a Michigan boy than anything else.

  • @albertorivera4337
    @albertorivera4337 5 років тому

    they could make a video showing all the tools and equipment that they have?

  • @julionthomas1381
    @julionthomas1381 4 роки тому

    Hi guys, do you'll work on trucks cuz am having the very same problem on my 8DC9 V8 engine

  • @عبدالملكعبدالله-ص2و
    @عبدالملكعبدالله-ص2و 5 років тому +1

    good

    • @randythomas4549
      @randythomas4549 5 років тому

      VERY GOOD VIDEO, BARBADOS WATCHING

    • @Hagerty
      @Hagerty  5 років тому

      Randy - Thanks for watching!

  • @dougankrum3328
    @dougankrum3328 5 років тому

    Leaking rings..no problem, just pop that motor out and how about a valve job while you're at it..! So, how well did the engine run anyway...?

  • @jamesbond9873
    @jamesbond9873 5 років тому

    Great video!

    • @Hagerty
      @Hagerty  5 років тому

      Thanks for watching!

  • @ismmon3869
    @ismmon3869 3 роки тому

    Could this qualify under PI 1802 code? Lmk please ASAP. Thank you