@@ZoAnne-lm3tbHola if you want to check this two ladies they do their videos in Spanish liry onni and jini channel liri is currently living in korea but i need to warn you they do not tell all the info.
민씨는 뭉크전에 보내서 사진찍는등 뉴진스를 자기가 원하는대로 이용하기 위해선 대표 자리가 필요하겠죠. 새삼 누구 간섭도 받기 싫을테구요. 당장 사이다맛을 기대하지는 않았어요. 저에게는 방탄의 제대와 활동, 하이브내 뉴진스를 제외한 모든 그룹들이 다 잘되는것이 사이다입니다
well if anything, this just prove NJ girls are all bark and no bite. Furthermore, showed that MHJ is not interested with NJ girls, she just wants money and power back. If she's trully care for NJ girls then position as producers for the next 5 years is her chance to prove that she does indeed care for the girl well being and success.
Wow, wow, wow......SM's dirty fingerprints are all over this and now Kakao, just when I thought it could not get any messier. Min Hee Jin is apparently insane if she thinks that HYBE would ever consider letting her slither back through their doors as CEO, they should get rid of her altogether. Looking forward to the k-drama, it'll be a must watch.
It'll be over by end of October when MHJ's old voided contract expires!!!!! All the Ador Board has to do is to publicly announce they have decided to NOT renew any contract in any form with MHJ and she's 100% totally out!!!!!!
I wonder if the New Jeans girls know she keeps turning down producing them. Proof right there she really does not care what happens to these girls. Of course,we already knew that.
These five girls and tokkis claimed that MHJ loves them, but when she got offered such a determining position (music producer) she declines ? She ONLY wants to be CEO, yeah the money is what she's there for 😂
It's all so tiring and transparent. At this point, anyone who can't see the truth of what happened here is wilfully ignorant. It's truly pathetic how nefarious MHJ/Kakao was right from the start, and even more pathetic how there are people (e.g., bunnies) who believe their side.
small amount of bunnies but majority are paid fake trolls account.. they created hundreds or thousands but control by 1 person. all to manipulate public opinion because most k-netz are actually not into it.. but this drama with mhj is dragging long since she's backed up by a large company like Kakao which is almost 3 times bigger than Hybe in market value and maybe earnings. Kakao got a plan to dominate kpop industry worldwide. they want to steal Hybe from BSH. however, they got nothing strong damaging things to use against Hybe and that is why they are relying on manipulating the public opinion.. hoping that the public will pressure Hybe to give up on mhj's demands BUT they're underestimating BTS ARMY's power. they are having a hard time with International armys who can see right through them and Knetz doesn't actually have patience to pay too much attention to this drama and New jeans don't really have a strong fandom.
LOL i’m so tired about hearing about min heejin and by extension newjeans. It’s public fatigue at this point and I don’t even intentionally tune into kpop content its just pushed by the algorithm. Even if newjeans were to come out with their album tomorrow, i won’t engage with it anymore. They need to separate from min heejin and realise that criticism of her was never criticism of them until they decided to throw themselves in front of her now.
Well, international Armys in the US are already doing a soft boycott of everything NJ!!!! Not streaming their music and not purchasing their products!!!!! I read several posts on other podcasters that many states in the US are seeing NJ products being rapidly replaced with BTS, TXT, Le Sserafim, and even Stray Kids products!!!! 😅😅😅😅😂😂😂
@@nataliacoggins6769 Yea i’m an army and i blocked them on spotify and removed their songs from my playlists. I saw many armys blocking and the videos promoting or hyping up newjeans by armys have completely stopped. Newjeans used to be so hyped up and promoted by armys on their debut and that’s how i found out about them lol. Not anymore. its up to people to do whatever and you can continue to stream their music if you want, I’m not encouraging a boycott. I just personally will never engage with them again. Don’t play with my bangtan boys. I think newjeans just need therapy.
ARMY will hesitate to buy anything New Jeans promotes and my daughter refuses to purchase female GUCCI items till New Jeans disappears from their promotions. This is where the true power of ARMY can be seen.
헐....전 sm.. 카카오... 진짜 욕나오네요! 정말 하이브로 들어오기전부터 작전을 철저히 준비하고 들어온거 맞네요... 정말 더러운 인간들이 모여서 하이브를 뺏으려고 작정을 한거군요! 저 사악한 경제 조폭들!! 적은 민희진과 카카오뿐만이 아닐수도 있다는 생각이 듭니다.... 이제부터는 본격적으로 전쟁 시작이군요. 요즘 한국의 사법계가 정상은 아니라서 비정상적인 판결을 많이봅니다. 분명 카카오라면 판사들에게도 로비를 할것같은데..이제 하이브도 원칙대로만 하는건 불리할수도... 이에는 이 눈에는 눈으로 철저히 밟아주길 바랍니다.
@@happy-b4j6ti think, not only we ask what can we Army do, but all hybe fandoms ( not bunnies ofc😏) should ask the same.. Cz, we must do something not only for hybe but for our artists there..i think, we can do something if we reunited and talk not only for our groups but become ONE FOR ALL..
So the shaman was a mole pushing MHJ's plot along? Hmm, that's an interesting plot twist; however, I think MHJ is greedy enough to hire the shaman on her own!
I still pray someone locates Samalama shaman and finds out all her associates. Without this intel BTS and Hybe will forever be in jeopardy. Hybe could also have valid grounds to release Min. NJ will never respect management and forever tarnish Hybe
장기자의 카카오 이직이 사실이라면 수사 대상 아닌가? 언론인이 경쟁사에 불리한 기사를 작성하고 자리를 제공 받았다면 법 위반이다. 만약 사건화 된다면 카카오와 장기자를 넘어 서울신문과 민씨까지 번질지도 모를일이다. 참고로 "뉴진스"도 다녀간 예술의전당 뭉크전 주최는 서울신문과 지난 25일 서울신문 신임사장 추천위 4표중 1표를 행사한 KBS 이다. 정리해보면 1차 기자회견후 CBS와 단독인터뷰, 2차 KBS뉴스와 단독인터뷰(가처분신청 인용후) , 3차 서울신문기자 입을통한 CBS와 단독인터뷰(7월에 이미 민씨에게 전달된 내용이므로) 민씨의 뒷배는 어디일까 점점 궁금해져 간다.
구라 거짓말 입만 털어대며 선동하는 사람, 자기는 대표 자리가 목적이 아니라 아이들의 엄마와 같은 사람이라고 했던 사람... 남자 안성일이라고 일컬어지는 사람... 궁금한 것은 뉴 오푼이가 등장할 것이냐 아니면 핍티의 키나처럼 정신 차리고 탈출하는 사람이 나오느냐일듯. 물론 다섯 명이 다 정신차리는 게 좋겠지만요.
It is difficult because they are sort off programmed to react only and not read anything. Macol is also good in marketing false or correct information. They just focused on black provoking to get people on their side to influence outcomes they prefere. The same team as Kakao had she has now.
Hybe offering internal director position to Min Hee Jin was extremely generous in my opinion. If MHJ refuses I hope it is clear to everyone that New Jeans was not her priority and she was not this “mom” who cares so much. It was all about power, getting that power and using a group of young and naive girls to get her to that end. Hybe - stay strong as you have many power people wanting to take you down because of your success. The truth always wins out in the end. If you hear what MHJ side says, it calls out Hybe for the actual things they themselves do. They project. They eventually reveal themselves when you can start applying what they say to themselves instead. The truth is in there in that way.
Considering how much ridicule Big Hit received when HYYH sales skyrocketed past expectations, I’m sure they are very careful to report figures as correctly as possible.
HYBE got you working overtime! I find myself rolling my eyes because MHJ's side keep saying HYBE are always using media play to make them look bad but news that I can remembers are all HYBE only releasing statement after MHJ does something harmful. It's so embarrassing, that MHJ and NJ have no shame at all demanding MHJ back as the CEO. Why would you think everything she has done would any company want her back?
Y por qué crees que ellas insisten tanto en sus peticiones y porqué esa seguridad insistiendo?? Aquí hay algo que no encaja. Que no cuadra con todo lo que está pasando. Min tiene mucho dinero detrás. Realmente ella se está moviendo solo por dinero??
Man this is becoming a full time job for you! Actually glad to see the addition of the big shot lawyer to Hybe’s team. MHJ’s pr team must think we can’t read and think for ourselves…but the court of public opinion is huge there right? Truth always wins even if it takes a while😀your channel has become invaluable for this subject and others that your share your knowledge about so thank you!
Don t forget the first accusations that HYBE made...that she was meeting with investors from Kakao and conspired for to take over.....there is something very sinister undr the surface
민히진과 말골 진짜 웃기는 사람들이에요. 하이브가 “뉴진스의 정성적인 활동을 보장 받지 못할 것을 경계하고 있습니다.” 이게 말이 되는가요? 뉴진스가 활동을 잘해서 성공을 해야 어도어와 하이브도 돈을 버는데 외 하이브가 정성적인 활동을 못하게 합니까? 하이브가 그러면 자기가 자기 목숨을 끝는거나 많찬가지 아님니까? 민히진씨는 그렇게 돈도 필요없고 뉴진스랑 같이 가겠다고 했으면서 지금 하이브에서 ㅁㅎㅈ씨가 어도어 훔쳐갈려고 했고 11월 2일날 민히진씨 개약이 끝나는데도 다시 5년 더 오래 뉴진승와 같이 푸로듀싱하게 해준다는데 뭐가 그렇게 불만이 많읍니까? 다 이게 돈때문이겠죠 뉴진스랑 함께 못가서 그러는게 아니고요. 지금 상황으론 주식 옵션을 못 받으니까 불쌍한 뉴진스 애들을 잡고 끌어내리고 있네요. 이를 모르는 뉴진스 애들만 불상하고 답답 합니다. Min Hee Jin and Malcol are really out of line. They said that Hybe “is not guaranteeing New Jeans’ sincere activities.” Does that make any sense from the business standpoint? If New Jeans does well in their activities and succeeds, Adore and Hybe will make profits, so why will Hybe preventing NJ from doing sincere activities? If Hybe prevents NJ doing full activities, isn’t it like ending Ador’s own lifeline? Min Hee Jin said many times that she doesn’t need money and that she just wants to be with New Jeans, so now Hybe is generously extending Min Hee Jin’s contract, although her contract will end on November 2nd and she tried to steal Ador right under from Hybe, and she will be able to continue with New Jeans as their internal director for another 5 years, so why is she so dissatisfied? It must be all because of the money, not because she can’t be with New Jeans. In the current situation, she can’t receive the stock options, so she is grabbing hold of poor New Jeans and dragging them down. I just feel sorry for NJ and frustrated because the young and naive New Jeans members do not understand the real motive of Min Hee Jin.
HYBE said that they are aware of mhj's control over NJ, so I highly suspect that they have people reading all the comments on all of these posts concerning mhj, NJ, kakao, etc. I also suspect that HYBE not being able to 'guarantee NJ's sincere activities' has more to do with how the girls are acting concerning mhj. Since they seem to be attached to mhj's hip, they could do all kinds of shady things in order to get her back, including refusing to work, which could lead to an ultimatum by HYBE, as in 'If you don't work, you don't get paid' situation. On the other hand, HYBE may be planning to place them in a deprogramming facility. It's also entirely possible that they will, as a last resort, sue the girls for damaging ADOR/HYBE financially and break their contracts through a court of law. It's like 2 trees fighting for the same piece of ground. Lots of directions the roots can move, but HYBE seems to have more legal wiggle room atp.
@@ZoAnne-lm3tb Thanks for your comment! I feel that NJ will not cooperate fully only to be defiant. Hybe can only try their best to get them to get involved, and I am sure they will document every encounter and words exchanged to be used in court in the future. If the NJ members do not meet their responsibilities as agreed on their contract, Hybe will either have to terminate the contract with penalties to recover the loss or wait 5 years until the contract runs out.
@@patriapaulafranceschavez8992 Making money is what businesses do, and while they're not all sunshine and light, they're not all greedy sob's, either. Compared to many businesses, HYBE actually seems to try to promote fair business practices, offering their employees an in-building cafeteria, an in-building gym, an in-building library, an in-building mental health service, an in-building nurse/doctor clinic, and providing specialty help for their artists... such as vocal lessons, choreographers, hair stylists, make-up artists, clothes stylists, bodyguards, foreign language instructors, boxing and martial arts instructors, legal aide, and the list goes on an on. HYBE is a conglomerate... if I were still a young, physically mobile and physically capable woman, and since I absolutely know that there are very few businesses that are comparable, I would definitely have no reservations whatsoever about trying to get a job there. I can say this because I am not jealous/envious of the the money and things that PD BANG and BTS have worked for and EARNED THROUGH hard work. Greed is one of the 7 deadly sins, but so are Envy, Covetousness, and Jealousy. Although I am no longer a Christian, I WAS raised Baptist, and I still hold the teachings of Jesus in my heart. Four of my favorite teachings are, 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.', 'Judge not lest ye be judged.', 'Love thy neighbor as thyself. ', and 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.' (I still struggle with that judging part, especially when I see bullying and abuse being committed.) As I have come nearer to the end of my life, I have come to understand that I have been blessed, most certainly with both good and bad, but I'm grateful that I've been gifted the things I have needed in order to survive, to stay alive, and to keep living. All else will be left behind when it's my time to go, because I can't take it with me anyway, can I? Only the Brightest and Most of Positive Blessings to you, sweetheart, and to all who actually read the entirety of my likely boring ramblings. 😁😁😁
It's hard to be respectful of a woman who's entire team is claiming the HYBE is using the media and telling lies to benefit them and cause harm to MHJ and NJ, as I have said before HYBE has done some things I do not like, but I do not see them as being the bad ones hear, how can anyone be on MHJ side ? So if I understand, because she didn't actually take over HYBE then it she couldn't be legally charged with a crime, but if she had succeeded then they would have charged her with a crime? So HYBE isn't allowed to prevent her from taking over their company, or actually planning to take it over? That does not make sense to me, they should be allowed to have fired her from the company completely and all this drama could have been over, instead she keeps on creating more lies and more manipulation not only about HYBE, but BTS as well. As I said before, MHJ and possibly LSM but definitely with SM & Kakao have planned all of this since 2021 and set up Bang & HYBE to destroy BTS and take over HYBE, I find it interesting that she talked to the shaman about her media attack and then after 10+ years we have a huge unnecessary scandal involving Yoongi, & while this was going on SM sneaks in the Taeil S.A. News in which nothing happened in the media, just SM statement, no photo lines, no apologies, absolutely nothing and then he disappears. Does MHJ really think she is going to win, or is since her plan failed is she now moving on to a plan B where she continues to file lawsuits against HYBE so they waste all their money having to defend her unfounded claims, HYBE has so much evidence against her, while she has nothing but paid minions to do her dirty work, also all this news on how mistreated NJ has been treated, if this were true then why wouldn't HYBE just let them go and cut their losses, let them all go and concentrate on all your other groups, use all the fee's they are using trying to fight an evil woman on they already successful groups. As someone who is foreign and seeing all this drama that she has created with the help of the Kmedia I'm done with all of it, with the exception of BTS, because they are not Kpop, or idols, they are Artist who has many genre's and doesn't need the Korean community to continue to succeed, Korea hasn't liked BTS from debut to begin with, MHJ has ruined Kpop for me.
I still feel that Armys and BTS will always have a last laugh. HYBE is protecting itself and our boys have worked extremely hard to build the empire. NO ONE can harm them.
the current Government is very corrupt, .. of course they're in bed with KAKAO too .. SM/KAKAO controls the narrative of the K-media, that's why we don't hear anything about Taeil's case .. there's no photo lines, there's no apologies to the public, .. there's no scrutiny from K-media & K-netz .. there's no comparison to what Suga did to what Taeil did, . .. yet we didn't hear anything .. the latest news I heard, the case has been forwarded to the prosecutor office .. If someone get caught of a plan (that she planned it for years) in murdering the President. Even though she hasn't put her plan in reality, don't you think she can be charged with a crime & will go to jail ??
Finally, this is starting to get more funny. They are never gonna get around Army! We've known where all this leads for months and months... 👀 😂 We're walking through all the drama with our eyes open, collecting evidence. 👏 🤷♀️
International Armys are already doing a soft boycott of everything NJ products!!!! NJ products are not being purchased in the US and any UNOPENED stock of NJ products are being returned to Ador!!!!!
Sería bueno saber por donde tiene Min cogido a Bang o a Hybe para ejercer la presión que ejerce y quien es tan poderoso que la apoya no sólo con dinero si no con los medios.
@alkim1519 Honestly, I don't care what or if she is holding something on BSH, unless it is a crime like someone being unalived or at that level. I don't care if they had to lie about something in the beginning of BH, BTS, or anything like that. So what, it's been so long. BTS have proven themselves again and again over the years. I like their music catalog and the members seem genuinely like good people. What I care about are recent things. MHJ came into Hybe with bad and nefarious intentions. I can't forgive her or people like her. Unfortunately, NJ have aligned them with MHJ, so to me they are the sam as her.
As far as the NJ YT ultimatum, I don’t see how anyone can think they did it all on their own without MHJ’s direction. When have you EVER known of them to go against a MHJ’s wishes? Answer is NEVER!
절대 불가! 대표 복귀는 말도 안 된다 법정으로 가서 끝장을 내야한다 그리고 뉴진스도 이젠 스트레스다 하이브 산하 걸그룹들 중 가장 많은 지원과 서포트 받아왔고 심지어 50억 이상 1년차에 정산도 받지 않았나? 다른 Kpop계의 무수히 많은 걸그룹들의 현실과 비교해서 고작 데뷔 1,2년차에 이런 특혜에 가까운 지원과 대우 받은 걸그룹은 거의 없을 거라 생각한다
I thought the rejection of the offer to retain production direction would occur. My opinion is that MHJ is more interested in the stock options she lost that came with the CEO position than the continued success and well-being of NJ.
kakao and mhj are really acting like drama villains, crazy how all the paths lead to kakao, also i wanted to ask if kakao ceo actually gets convicted will they have to get rid of a part of kakao bank since financial criminals can’t own more than 10% in stocks of a bank. I wonder if this whole hassle kakao is making to take down hybe is really worth it since hybe market is just entertainment while kakao has a lot more things going on.
Kakao and SM are involved in criminal charges of stock manipulation to prevent Hybe from buying out SM late 2022!!!! I believe executives have been charged with this over the summer 2024!!!!
“Hybe participates in questionable media manipulation tactics!!” Proceeds to level a bunch of manipulative accusations and invites readers to speculate that Hybe is hiding something. It’s so wild to follow an accusation of media manipulation with blatant media manipulation. In the literal next sentence. 😂😂😂
@@BoraBaeOT7 Exactly!!!!! When the girls realized they seriously committed a breach of contract, they removed it. But why stand by her, when they saw first hand how she led them to do this??? They are stupid and so brainwashed!!! Pitiful. 😢😢
What made her think that someone like her could take over a conglomerate like Hybe?! And what makes her think ANY company would put a person like her would put her back in a controlling position, after she tried to hatch a plan to take over Hybe! She’s accusing Hybe of perpetrating all the shady behaviour she, herself, is guilty of! It’s laughable…she’s be thrown out of court on her 🫏 with her outrageous demands!!!
MHJ has no ownership rights in Ador and could not have the label without Hybe under any circumstances, since Ador is owned by Hybe. Hybe founded Ador and appointed MHJ as chief executive officer.
MHJ has been offered a lifeline by Hybe/Ador by remaining as performance director for 5 years. She should take this gladly to try and gain back some of the trust and respect she has lost, and also keep working with NJ who she cares so much about? If she continues down this path of lies and deception, how could she ever be trusted by anyone in this industry again?💜
They didn't. It was a trap to make her choose and expose her intentions. There's no way she would produce NJ for their benefit because she's their 'mom' and 'cares' so much. She's more pained about some 100M..
because of the negative backlash from the general public that still pro MHJ & NJ. .. online bullying is really serious can damage HYBE reputation there ..
@@rebeccaavoca9143 yup and also the kmedia is out to get HYBE at all cost. Why they are supporting a snake like her is beyond me. Is it a feminist thing? Maybe Hybe should consider moving all operations out of SK
okay so that leagal lawsuit they are talking about is that about mhj crimes, or the nj case? i also think that what hybe did by offering an ultimatum is good because that signals they have good intetions towards nj. but court will also see that they will never be able to trust mhj again as a ceo so as an internal director it comes without power and access to internal files of other artists. witch is understabable. MHJ and nj looks like total brats who don´t there will. and i think the media is so dirty so many powerful people is involved with the disirre to take down bhs and bts. but i feel like there is a wall because some higher ups is often neutral because they didn´t allow the haters to get sugas informatinon on his social service and also they were quick to say that this would not affect his service becaue it happened in his free time. they had their chance to end suga by lying but they didn´t, so that is at good thing. but the coruption is really crazy. i live in denmak where we don´t have any corruption at least not that i have seen or heard so this makes me so angry to see.
The lawsuit everyone is talking about has not started yet, and potentially it might not happen. Everyone is assuming that NJ will sue Ador for breach of contract, so they can cancel their contracts without paying the penalty. #minheejinout
Thank you! I'd rather the drama be contained in drama shows that end in 16 - 20 episodes :) MHJ is an employee, period. Each employer will state which actions are accepted and wanted. Then, there are other actions which will not be accepted and have repercussions. MHJ seems to present only volatile emotional responses. She was offered to stay with her group and complete her long term plan. It is not enough for her. Seriously, I don't think she will be happy with anything the company will offer. She will always want more.
MHJ's controversy and Suga's case have made South Korean media the laughingstock of the world. I hope that journalists with integrity will achieve greater success after learning from this negative example.
It is so difficult to be respectful and class when it comes to MHJ she just needs to go away go away and leave HYBE alone! She is very ridiculous. How can you come into somebody company and wants to steal the company away by creating all these unnecessary problems like it’s her rights? why she feel so entitled she needs to go away. I’m so tired of hearing her name and seeing her all over social media right now for all the wrong reasons too. She needs to just go away.
Why doesn’t Kakao just give her the money pay the penalties for NJ to leave HYBE and to start her own label. Then we can see what they can do! I am so tired of them all!!! If HYBE is so bad, leave! We won’t miss you!!!
MHJ/Kakao's intent is to drag it on. The only purposes are publicity fatigue and stock price impact. Prolonging the drama can also give opportunity for a "Black Swan" event (troubling unexpected event). But global ambassador Kim Seok-Jin and the return of J-Hope next month and the other Hybe artists and their comebacks will be formidable.
Damn, MHJ really put the girls in front of the battle as shields, away from all the stuff she’d planned and done against Hybe, BTS, and NJ themselves. She only cares about herself, her plans, money, and power. Her talent is now rendered useless and undermined by her money and power hungry self.
조심스런 추측해봅니다.. 뉴진스 부모가 어도어와 만남 이후 나온 민희진의 5년 계약을 제안했다는 건 .. 뉴진스 부모들도 현상황을 인지했고 그래서 민희진의 프로디싱 원했기에 어도어는 대표는 안되지만 최대한의 프로듀스로서 뉴진스의 계약기간을 협의를 발표했지만.. 민희진이 이 내용을 바로 반박하므로 뉴진스와 부모들은 민희진과 헤어질 결심을 할것이라고 추측해봅니다.. 향후 가처분 신청을 할지는 추후 봐야겠지만.. 어도어가 보낸 개인 공식 문서의 내용은 알려지지 않았지만 .. 어도어에 남아있고 1년에 몇번?의 앨범 제작도 공식 문서화 하였다면 .. 민희진 문제에 참여한 뉴진스 부모들이 이젠 헤어질 결심을 할것으로 조심스런 추측해봅니다 ...
@@lovemyself174피프티랑은 전혀다른게 피프티는 다른회사대표가 남의 걸그룹 데리고 나가려 한거지만 뉴진스건은 본사에서 맘에안드는 자회사 대표 내쫒는 건임 자회사 대표는 본사애서 자기가 키운 아이들 본사횡포에서 지키려는 생각한거고 본사는 그 생각만으로 내쫒은것임 그외에 상상에 따른 온갖 추측은 어짜피 추측일뿐
가처분소송의 법원판결은 배임은 아니다였고, 그 이유는 실행으로 옮기지않았고 하이브에 실질적 피해를 준 것은 없기 때문이라 했음 그리고 배신행위는 인정된다는 것임. 즉 하이브가 모은 배임의 증거들은 인정된다는 것인데 뭔 하이브가 생각만으로 맘에 안 드는 대표를 잘랐다는 헛소리를함? 그리고 애초 어도어도 전액 하이브 자본으로 설립됐고 뉴진스 멤버들까지 전부 빅히트와 소스 뮤직 연습생 출신들 지원해준 건데 뭔 본사의 횡포임? 출발부터 BTS여동생 그룹이라 광고해서 아미들의 전폭적인 지원 있었고 초호화 뮤비들과 마케팅 등 하이브 지원 없었으면 아예 뜰 수조차 없었는데 거기다 데뷔 1,2년차에 50억 이상 정산받고 KPOP계의 다른 무수히 많은 중소 기획사 걸그룹들과 비교해보셈 뉴진스가 본사의 횡포를 받았다고 말할 수 있는지
I bet the clauses she doesn’t like in that contract are things like : Cannot use the internet for personal reasons, can’t be alone with artists, null and void if you are found liable in any of the lawsuits against you, every time you trash talk your employer, you have to stand in the corner…
Is it because a CEO position gets her put option stocks back? It has to be money or she would except that contract. Who calls a contract toxic anyway, that’s not a thing. Maybe she thinks it’s possessed by an entity of some kind.
Entertainment world could be a lot different. But business of enter. world would not be much different. There should be very harsh and hard decision on MHJ as she apparently intruded the company contract and intended treason. People could be symphyses on her because she looks much weaker and a loser. But business is business. It is an interesting topic to watch.
now we all know mhj true intention...mhj never care about nj...mhj only care about the power...wake up bunnies...ur beloved nj just being used by nj for her selfish greed
NJ saying they want MHJ back. MHJ bring offered to come back and work with the girls until their contract expired. MHJ rejecting said offer and demanding a position that no sane business would give her after her actions. She is not acting with the girls in mind. If she wants what's best for them and they want her to work with them, then compromise with Ador and Hybe. They are offering a chance when frankly, a lot of people don't think she should get it, including ARMY with the statement and hashtag MHJ Out. She's fussy that the contract is strict, but what was she expecting? She abused her position in the past and proven again and again that she is not protecting the company and cannot be trusted. She has conflicts with other labels and groups who have taken legal action against her (belift for defamation), she has planned to take over Ador, planned to take down BTS while they were out serving their country, she has insulted NJ themselves in text messages, she has mishandled a sexual harassment case which the victim also intends to take her to court. If I was Hybe I would do the same in this case.
November is her BOD membership. Without it, she cannot be appointed as CEO (according to Korean Law). Her employment contract I think has 2 or 3 more years.
@@elizabethbesco4758 she can continue to stay at Hybe until the end of her employment contract if she wants to but for sure people will avoid working with her and she won't have the free access to important floors; or she can terminate her contract and leave (but of course she won't, lol, as we can all see that she is after the money). The involvement of the reporter needs evidence. And its collection is a process that will need time. The fact is Hybe is doing a great job, being professional and keeping their cards close to their chest until their legal team is ready to spring the ample response. What we do as international fans is counter the manipulation being perpetuated on SNS, determine if what you read is a news or Puff piece.
Everyone can see clearly what is happening but will the korean law do anything about it?! From what we saw countless times, the korean law gives criminals a slap on the wrist and let them continue with their crimes. Kakao especially gets special treatment and they get away with all their crimes from stealing the golf game and the taxi app manipulation to name a few. They only got fines and were allowed to keep everything.
Warner USA is going down with Diddy. 😊 All the CEOs are quitting . Warner Korea tampering charges. I bet Hybe will eventually take over the bankrupt Warner😊 it's been shady since it's founding but had a lot of power like SM.
I will say it again: The fact that these Middle Age 15th century tactics still work in modern day Korea continues to baffle me! Also, when I saw NJ Japan fanmeet, a lot of their fans included young lads/people of the age you would expect to have better analytical ability than fall for such clownery! That makes all these all the more shocking! S.Korea, how about directing your anger to some real issues? (I say this with complete awareness that my country is no better but this is another level of ridiculousness!)
박가네.. 일본 소식 알려주는 큰채널이 있어요 푸른산호초가 한국 언론에 도배 될때 이건 이상하다고 했어요 하이브는 소속 가수들을 일본 방송에 다 출연 시킬수 있는 파워가 있다 뉴진스 일본 인기는 작은편이다 일본 방송국은 한국 보다 더 폐쇄적이다 일본 신문 광고는 아이돌 굿즈 이벤트 중 하나일 뿐이다 ..이런 내용을 알려주셨어요
맞습니다. 일본은 정말 폐쇠적이죠! 그래서 일본진출을 위해서 일본인 멤버를 두는것입니다. 일본인 멤버가 들어있으면 힘들이지 않고 홍보를 해주거든요... 일본에서는 하니가 푸른산호초를 그옛날 일본전설적인 아이돌 노래를 부른거에 신기해했을 따름인것 같았습니다. 그뒤 랭킹에서 그 노래를부른 마츠다세이코의 푸른산호초가 다시 회자되어 랭크인 하기도했죠. 뉴진스의 노래가 아니라... SNS에서야 일본팬들이 있으니 열심히들 부각시켰겠지만, 일본에 살고있는 보통 대중들에게는 그다지 실감은 없었습니다. 요즘 일본인 멤버가 섞여있는 케이팝가수들 자주 티비음악방송에 나오기때문에 그렇게 신기해 하지도 않고 일본그룹들도 케이팝 스타일이 많아져서 잘모르는 사람들은 한국 아이돌인지 일본 아이돌인지 구분이 안되는 그정도 입니다. 저도 잘모를 정도니까요.. 한국언론을 보면 일본에서 난리 난것처럼 떠들어대서 너무 우스웠습니다. 온도차가 너무심해서... 일본에서의 앨범 판매량을 보면 일본최고 인기가수 요아소비를 초청하지 않았으면 과연 도쿄돔을 채울수 있었을지 그것도 의심됩니다.
Makes you wonder what kind of promises she made these people for them to lie and also drop this kind of stuff right when she is trying to pull something off.
00:00 장형우 전(?) 기자 업데이트
8:35 민희진 씨 대표직 복귀 이슈
20:00 Updates on (former) reporter Jang Hyung-woo
26:03 MHJ drama continues
Any possibility of adding Spanish translations? I've read some comments here asking for that. ❤
@@ZoAnne-lm3tbHola if you want to check this two ladies they do their videos in Spanish liry onni and jini channel liri is currently living in korea but i need to warn you they do not tell all the info.
민씨는 뭉크전에 보내서 사진찍는등 뉴진스를 자기가 원하는대로 이용하기 위해선 대표 자리가 필요하겠죠. 새삼 누구 간섭도 받기 싫을테구요. 당장 사이다맛을 기대하지는 않았어요. 저에게는 방탄의 제대와 활동, 하이브내 뉴진스를 제외한 모든 그룹들이 다 잘되는것이 사이다입니다
well if anything, this just prove NJ girls are all bark and no bite. Furthermore, showed that MHJ is not interested with NJ girls, she just wants money and power back. If she's trully care for NJ girls then position as producers for the next 5 years is her chance to prove that she does indeed care for the girl well being and success.
@RazgrizDavion81 Actually, it looks like their plan worked...MHJ is the one who wants CEO or nothing, so their plea might have been in vain.
Exactly
I just hope that she gets arrested like the Kakao guy since she ALSO tried stock manipulation but was caught before she could implement her plan.
민희진 저거 인간 아니네ㅋ
기사 인터뷰에서 장기자 거짓폭로를 언급했다고???
와아 무얼 상상해도 그 이상이네ㅉ
Wow, wow, wow......SM's dirty fingerprints are all over this and now Kakao, just when I thought it could not get any messier. Min Hee Jin is apparently insane if she thinks that HYBE would ever consider letting her slither back through their doors as CEO, they should get rid of her altogether. Looking forward to the k-drama, it'll be a must watch.
It'll be over by end of October when MHJ's old voided contract expires!!!!! All the Ador Board has to do is to publicly announce they have decided to NOT renew any contract in any form with MHJ and she's 100% totally out!!!!!!
@@nataliacoggins6769 Min Heejin se ne bo tako zlahka predala. Spletkari in zavaja vse!
@@nataliacoggins6769 She got her hooks everywhere. It's not helpful to be so excited yet. Let's be careful til the end!
@@nerinaodistre And we don't only need to push her out, but make her incapable to continue her dirty game somewhere else. She needs to be done done.
Kakao was involved from the beginning, she even mentions them in her convo with shaman.
저 기자보다 그런 방송을 한 방송사와 김현정 아나운서도 화가나네요~ 팩트체크도 안하고 방송을 또~윤기때처럼~
실수가 아니라 이젠 의도입니다
사과방송 요구합시다
저기자보다는 아니죠. 기자가 원탑 cbs투탑.. 둘다 고소 들어가야죠..
I wonder if the New Jeans girls know she keeps turning down producing them. Proof right there she really does not care what happens to these girls. Of course,we already knew that.
NJ is also greedy to be famous over all artists
It would be hard to believe if they do not know. Seems like they want to see 🧙🏼♀️... as a victim
These five girls and tokkis claimed that MHJ loves them, but when she got offered such a determining position (music producer) she declines ? She ONLY wants to be CEO, yeah the money is what she's there for 😂
It's all so tiring and transparent. At this point, anyone who can't see the truth of what happened here is wilfully ignorant. It's truly pathetic how nefarious MHJ/Kakao was right from the start, and even more pathetic how there are people (e.g., bunnies) who believe their side.
small amount of bunnies but majority are paid fake trolls account.. they created hundreds or thousands but control by 1 person. all to manipulate public opinion because most k-netz are actually not into it.. but this drama with mhj is dragging long since she's backed up by a large company like Kakao which is almost 3 times bigger than Hybe in market value and maybe earnings. Kakao got a plan to dominate kpop industry worldwide. they want to steal Hybe from BSH. however, they got nothing strong damaging things to use against Hybe and that is why they are relying on manipulating the public opinion.. hoping that the public will pressure Hybe to give up on mhj's demands BUT they're underestimating BTS ARMY's power. they are having a hard time with International armys who can see right through them and Knetz doesn't actually have patience to pay too much attention to this drama and New jeans don't really have a strong fandom.
LOL i’m so tired about hearing about min heejin and by extension newjeans. It’s public fatigue at this point and I don’t even intentionally tune into kpop content its just pushed by the algorithm. Even if newjeans were to come out with their album tomorrow, i won’t engage with it anymore. They need to separate from min heejin and realise that criticism of her was never criticism of them until they decided to throw themselves in front of her now.
Well, international Armys in the US are already doing a soft boycott of everything NJ!!!! Not streaming their music and not purchasing their products!!!!! I read several posts on other podcasters that many states in the US are seeing NJ products being rapidly replaced with BTS, TXT, Le Sserafim, and even Stray Kids products!!!! 😅😅😅😅😂😂😂
@@nataliacoggins6769 Yea i’m an army and i blocked them on spotify and removed their songs from my playlists. I saw many armys blocking and the videos promoting or hyping up newjeans by armys have completely stopped. Newjeans used to be so hyped up and promoted by armys on their debut and that’s how i found out about them lol. Not anymore.
its up to people to do whatever and you can continue to stream their music if you want, I’m not encouraging a boycott. I just personally will never engage with them again. Don’t play with my bangtan boys. I think newjeans just need therapy.
Good job US ARMY👍@@nataliacoggins6769
ARMY will hesitate to buy anything New Jeans promotes and my daughter refuses to purchase female GUCCI items till New Jeans disappears from their promotions. This is where the true power of ARMY can be seen.
이런 비상식적인 인간등때문에 비상식이 상식이 되고, 진실과 진리는 뒤로하고 오직 편가르기에 편중되는 민심과 팬심들.. 카카오는 왜 저럴까? 민희진과 뉴진스는 왜저럴까?
스엠에서 보고 배운대로 한게 저래서 그래요 지져분하게 너무싫다 저것들~~
Kakao is mafia. Hybe is Kakao competitor, not only in kpop industries but also in digital content creation.
The answer is money and greed of power
하이브 장악혀려는거죠 민희진이 무당하고 한 카톡에 명확히 나오잖아요
헐....전 sm.. 카카오...
진짜 욕나오네요!
정말 하이브로 들어오기전부터 작전을 철저히 준비하고 들어온거 맞네요...
정말 더러운 인간들이 모여서 하이브를 뺏으려고 작정을 한거군요!
저 사악한 경제 조폭들!!
적은 민희진과 카카오뿐만이 아닐수도 있다는 생각이 듭니다....
이제부터는 본격적으로 전쟁 시작이군요.
요즘 한국의 사법계가 정상은 아니라서 비정상적인 판결을 많이봅니다.
분명 카카오라면 판사들에게도 로비를 할것같은데..이제 하이브도 원칙대로만 하는건 불리할수도...
이에는 이 눈에는 눈으로
철저히 밟아주길 바랍니다.
@@happy-b4j6ti think, not only we ask what can we Army do, but all hybe fandoms ( not bunnies ofc😏) should ask the same.. Cz, we must do something not only for hybe but for our artists there..i think, we can do something if we reunited and talk not only for our groups but become ONE FOR ALL..
@@happy-b4j6tARMY can fight back at social media platform like international ARMY. But it seems Korean ARMY are coward.
I was wondering who was giving the shaman business strategies. Seems like it was Kakao/SM.
So the shaman was a mole pushing MHJ's plot along? Hmm, that's an interesting plot twist; however, I think MHJ is greedy enough to hire the shaman on her own!
@nataliacoggins6769 It's not inconceivable that the shaman was double dipping after MHJ began consulting with her. More importantly, where is she?
@@orchidmsc Maybe only SM and Kakao know!!!!😅😅😂😂
@@nataliacoggins6769 Exactly
I still pray someone locates Samalama shaman and finds out all her associates. Without this intel BTS and Hybe will forever be in jeopardy. Hybe could also have valid grounds to release Min. NJ will never respect management and forever tarnish Hybe
장기자의 카카오 이직이 사실이라면 수사 대상 아닌가?
언론인이 경쟁사에 불리한 기사를 작성하고 자리를 제공 받았다면 법 위반이다.
만약 사건화 된다면 카카오와 장기자를 넘어 서울신문과 민씨까지 번질지도 모를일이다.
참고로 "뉴진스"도 다녀간 예술의전당 뭉크전 주최는 서울신문과 지난 25일 서울신문 신임사장
추천위 4표중 1표를 행사한 KBS 이다.
정리해보면 1차 기자회견후 CBS와 단독인터뷰, 2차 KBS뉴스와 단독인터뷰(가처분신청 인용후) ,
3차 서울신문기자 입을통한 CBS와 단독인터뷰(7월에 이미 민씨에게 전달된 내용이므로)
민씨의 뒷배는 어디일까 점점 궁금해져 간다.
저도 정말 궁금합니다.
카카오 뿐만아니라 하이브를 비판하고 민희진를 옹호하는 언론사들을 보면...
It is high possibility that Min Hee Jin is Kakao's spy.
She's plotting against HYBE along with SM and Kakao, she even mentioned it in her convo with that shaman.
카카오 배후설 진짜 심각하다고 봅니다 특히 장모 기자 문제는 현재 분쟁 중인 사안과 여론에 아주 심각한 영향을 끼쳤기 때문에 하이브에서 반드시 법적으로 집고 넘어가야 된다고 봅니다
공감합니다
구라 거짓말 입만 털어대며 선동하는 사람,
자기는 대표 자리가 목적이 아니라 아이들의 엄마와 같은 사람이라고 했던 사람...
남자 안성일이라고 일컬어지는 사람...
궁금한 것은 뉴 오푼이가 등장할 것이냐 아니면 핍티의 키나처럼 정신 차리고 탈출하는 사람이 나오느냐일듯.
물론 다섯 명이 다 정신차리는 게 좋겠지만요.
It is difficult because they are sort off programmed to react only and not read anything. Macol is also good in marketing false or correct information. They just focused on black provoking to get people on their side to influence outcomes they prefere. The same team as Kakao had she has now.
Hybe offering internal director position to Min Hee Jin was extremely generous in my opinion. If MHJ refuses I hope it is clear to everyone that New Jeans was not her priority and she was not this “mom” who cares so much. It was all about power, getting that power and using a group of young and naive girls to get her to that end. Hybe - stay strong as you have many power people wanting to take you down because of your success. The truth always wins out in the end. If you hear what MHJ side says, it calls out Hybe for the actual things they themselves do. They project. They eventually reveal themselves when you can start applying what they say to themselves instead. The truth is in there in that way.
I had to laugh when that letter was read, they literally just wrote their own strategy!! Isn't MHJ tired??? Doesn't she have actual work to do?
@@lia43692 For sure, and many Armys realized that. We've known her plans through her projections for quite some time now.
하이브가 연예관련 기자에게도 돈을 안 쓰는데 누구에게 돈을 쓴다고 말이 안 되는 소리를..
Considering how much ridicule Big Hit received when HYYH sales skyrocketed past expectations, I’m sure they are very careful to report figures as correctly as possible.
Not only that but bc they're in public trade. If they're not careful, they might be accused of stock manipulation & such.
@@danievasquez3394 They did well!
하이브도 할만큼 했다. 민희진과 뉴진스는 케이팝팬들의 정신 건강에 해가되니 위약금 지불하고 하이브에서 나가길!
HYBE got you working overtime! I find myself rolling my eyes because MHJ's side keep saying HYBE are always using media play to make them look bad but news that I can remembers are all HYBE only releasing statement after MHJ does something harmful. It's so embarrassing, that MHJ and NJ have no shame at all demanding MHJ back as the CEO. Why would you think everything she has done would any company want her back?
Spilled!!
Y por qué crees que ellas insisten tanto en sus peticiones y porqué esa seguridad insistiendo?? Aquí hay algo que no encaja. Que no cuadra con todo lo que está pasando. Min tiene mucho dinero detrás. Realmente ella se está moviendo solo por dinero??
its MHJ who's using media play with the help of KAKAO!!!
when bunnies blind enough that their mother use SM as media play no wonder lots SM stan helping them lol
In the end, it's all about the money to MHJ.
장형우 기자 7월 22일 민희진에게 녹취 파일을 넘겨줄때 뉴진스 멤버들은
서울신문 에드바르 뭉크전 까지 가서
사진들 찍고
뭉크전 사진들을 버니즈 팬들에게 뿌렸어요
이건 불법 뒷광고 까지
뉴진스를 뭉크전 광고 앵벌이 시킨거에요
Thank you so much for staying on top of this situation, it's much appreciated.
Man this is becoming a full time job for you! Actually glad to see the addition of the big shot lawyer to Hybe’s team. MHJ’s pr team must think we can’t read and think for ourselves…but the court of public opinion is huge there right? Truth always wins even if it takes a while😀your channel has become invaluable for this subject and others that your share your knowledge about so thank you!
돌다방 tv 라고 CBS 기자 아미님이 방송하시는데
이진호 방송전에 카카오 얘기하셨음
저두 그때 알았어요 기자도 그만둔것도 뒷배경이 이제 스엠 카카오톡 이제 사람들이 다 알아요 언론도 그쪽에서 다 장악해서 하이브를 엄청까는것도 이상했는데 어제 하는짓보고 이해가요 개나리들 진짜 ~~
That woman is so annoying! She hates HYBE, but she is so desperate to stay.
Cause she wanna damage all the artists, to make her group shine
Mhj should have just started her own independent music label/company; none of this would be going on now…
She didn't have no resource, she was only able to come this far because Bang Sihyuk made the dumbest mistake of trusting her and giving her money.
Don t forget the first accusations that HYBE made...that she was meeting with investors from Kakao and conspired for to take over.....there is something very sinister undr the surface
@@elp9319 no resources and no connections. she only got this far bcoz she fooled Bang PD.😅
MHJ isn’t interested in producing Nj and she never was. She is a conwoman, and not a good one.
뉴진스갤러리에서 하는짓이 뭔지 아십니까.
조금이라도 하이브에 유리한 기사라면 무작정 신고하고
맘에 안드는 댓글은 비추테러하고,
관련기사 올라오면 바로 좌표 올려서 댓글 공작 지시합니다.
이건 뭐 ㅋㅋ 트위터에서나 하던 짓을 해대고있으니.
민히진과 말골 진짜 웃기는 사람들이에요. 하이브가 “뉴진스의 정성적인 활동을 보장 받지 못할 것을 경계하고 있습니다.” 이게 말이 되는가요? 뉴진스가 활동을 잘해서 성공을 해야 어도어와 하이브도 돈을 버는데 외 하이브가 정성적인 활동을 못하게 합니까? 하이브가 그러면 자기가 자기 목숨을 끝는거나 많찬가지 아님니까? 민히진씨는 그렇게 돈도 필요없고 뉴진스랑 같이 가겠다고 했으면서 지금 하이브에서 ㅁㅎㅈ씨가 어도어 훔쳐갈려고 했고 11월 2일날 민히진씨 개약이 끝나는데도 다시 5년 더 오래 뉴진승와 같이 푸로듀싱하게 해준다는데 뭐가 그렇게 불만이 많읍니까? 다 이게 돈때문이겠죠 뉴진스랑 함께 못가서 그러는게 아니고요. 지금 상황으론 주식 옵션을 못 받으니까 불쌍한 뉴진스 애들을 잡고 끌어내리고 있네요. 이를 모르는 뉴진스 애들만 불상하고 답답 합니다.
Min Hee Jin and Malcol are really out of line. They said that Hybe “is not guaranteeing New Jeans’ sincere activities.” Does that make any sense from the business standpoint? If New Jeans does well in their activities and succeeds, Adore and Hybe will make profits, so why will Hybe preventing NJ from doing sincere activities? If Hybe prevents NJ doing full activities, isn’t it like ending Ador’s own lifeline? Min Hee Jin said many times that she doesn’t need money and that she just wants to be with New Jeans, so now Hybe is generously extending Min Hee Jin’s contract, although her contract will end on November 2nd and she tried to steal Ador right under from Hybe, and she will be able to continue with New Jeans as their internal director for another 5 years, so why is she so dissatisfied? It must be all because of the money, not because she can’t be with New Jeans. In the current situation, she can’t receive the stock options, so she is grabbing hold of poor New Jeans and dragging them down. I just feel sorry for NJ and frustrated because the young and naive New Jeans members do not understand the real motive of Min Hee Jin.
HYBE said that they are aware of mhj's control over NJ, so I highly suspect that they have people reading all the comments on all of these posts concerning mhj, NJ, kakao, etc. I also suspect that HYBE not being able to 'guarantee NJ's sincere activities' has more to do with how the girls are acting concerning mhj. Since they seem to be attached to mhj's hip, they could do all kinds of shady things in order to get her back, including refusing to work, which could lead to an ultimatum by HYBE, as in 'If you don't work, you don't get paid' situation. On the other hand, HYBE may be planning to place them in a deprogramming facility. It's also entirely possible that they will, as a last resort, sue the girls for damaging ADOR/HYBE financially and break their contracts through a court of law. It's like 2 trees fighting for the same piece of ground. Lots of directions the roots can move, but HYBE seems to have more legal wiggle room atp.
@@ZoAnne-lm3tb And of course since they were girls and innocent Hybe will be blame in all of these. That Hybe is all greedy and bad😅
@@ZoAnne-lm3tb Thanks for your comment! I feel that NJ will not cooperate fully only to be defiant. Hybe can only try their best to get them to get involved, and I am sure they will document every encounter and words exchanged to be used in court in the future. If the NJ members do not meet their responsibilities as agreed on their contract, Hybe will either have to terminate the contract with penalties to recover the loss or wait 5 years until the contract runs out.
@@patriapaulafranceschavez8992 Making money is what businesses do, and while they're not all sunshine and light, they're not all greedy sob's, either. Compared to many businesses, HYBE actually seems to try to promote fair business practices, offering their employees an in-building cafeteria, an in-building gym, an in-building library, an in-building mental health service, an in-building nurse/doctor clinic, and providing specialty help for their artists... such as vocal lessons, choreographers, hair stylists, make-up artists, clothes stylists, bodyguards, foreign language instructors, boxing and martial arts instructors, legal aide, and the list goes on an on. HYBE is a conglomerate... if I were still a young, physically mobile and physically capable woman, and since I absolutely know that there are very few businesses that are comparable, I would definitely have no reservations whatsoever about trying to get a job there. I can say this because I am not jealous/envious of the the money and things that PD BANG and BTS have worked for and EARNED THROUGH hard work. Greed is one of the 7 deadly sins, but so are Envy, Covetousness, and Jealousy. Although I am no longer a Christian, I WAS raised Baptist, and I still hold the teachings of Jesus in my heart. Four of my favorite teachings are, 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.', 'Judge not lest ye be judged.', 'Love thy neighbor as thyself. ', and 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.' (I still struggle with that judging part, especially when I see bullying and abuse being committed.) As I have come nearer to the end of my life, I have come to understand that I have been blessed, most certainly with both good and bad, but I'm grateful that I've been gifted the things I have needed in order to survive, to stay alive, and to keep living. All else will be left behind when it's my time to go, because I can't take it with me anyway, can I? Only the Brightest and Most of Positive Blessings to you, sweetheart, and to all who actually read the entirety of my likely boring ramblings. 😁😁😁
It's hard to be respectful of a woman who's entire team is claiming the HYBE is using the media and telling lies to benefit them and cause harm to MHJ and NJ, as I have said before HYBE has done some things I do not like, but I do not see them as being the bad ones hear, how can anyone be on MHJ side ?
So if I understand, because she didn't actually take over HYBE then it she couldn't be legally charged with a crime, but if she had succeeded then they would have charged her with a crime? So HYBE isn't allowed to prevent her from taking over their company, or actually planning to take it over? That does not make sense to me, they should be allowed to have fired her from the company completely and all this drama could have been over, instead she keeps on creating more lies and more manipulation not only about HYBE, but BTS as well.
As I said before, MHJ and possibly LSM but definitely with SM & Kakao have planned all of this since 2021 and set up Bang & HYBE to destroy BTS and take over HYBE, I find it interesting that she talked to the shaman about her media attack and then after 10+ years we have a huge unnecessary scandal involving Yoongi, & while this was going on SM sneaks in the Taeil S.A. News in which nothing happened in the media, just SM statement, no photo lines, no apologies, absolutely nothing and then he disappears.
Does MHJ really think she is going to win, or is since her plan failed is she now moving on to a plan B where she continues to file lawsuits against HYBE so they waste all their money having to defend her unfounded claims, HYBE has so much evidence against her, while she has nothing but paid minions to do her dirty work, also all this news on how mistreated NJ has been treated, if this were true then why wouldn't HYBE just let them go and cut their losses, let them all go and concentrate on all your other groups, use all the fee's they are using trying to fight an evil woman on they already successful groups.
As someone who is foreign and seeing all this drama that she has created with the help of the Kmedia I'm done with all of it, with the exception of BTS, because they are not Kpop, or idols, they are Artist who has many genre's and doesn't need the Korean community to continue to succeed, Korea hasn't liked BTS from debut to begin with, MHJ has ruined Kpop for me.
I feel soo soo sad , I can't stand this anymore
Žalost do neba pa je, da ima ogromno podpore s strani prebivalstva ter medijev!
@@KsenijaHajdu-x3g because it's media play from KAKAO who supports MHJ
I still feel that Armys and BTS will always have a last laugh. HYBE is protecting itself and our boys have worked extremely hard to build the empire. NO ONE can harm them.
the current Government is very corrupt, .. of course they're in bed with KAKAO too ..
SM/KAKAO controls the narrative of the K-media, that's why we don't hear anything about Taeil's case .. there's no photo lines, there's no apologies to the public, .. there's no scrutiny from K-media & K-netz .. there's no comparison to what Suga did to what Taeil did, . .. yet we didn't hear anything ..
the latest news I heard, the case has been forwarded to the prosecutor office ..
If someone get caught of a plan (that she planned it for years) in murdering the President. Even though she hasn't put her plan in reality, don't you think she can be charged with a crime & will go to jail ??
Finally, this is starting to get more funny. They are never gonna get around Army! We've known where all this leads for months and months... 👀 😂 We're walking through all the drama with our eyes open, collecting evidence. 👏 🤷♀️
International Armys are already doing a soft boycott of everything NJ products!!!! NJ products are not being purchased in the US and any UNOPENED stock of NJ products are being returned to Ador!!!!!
@@nataliacoggins6769 Until this is solved, whichever way, that's how it needs to be.
Sería bueno saber por donde tiene Min cogido a Bang o a Hybe para ejercer la presión que ejerce y quien es tan poderoso que la apoya no sólo con dinero si no con los medios.
@@alkim1519 SM/Kakao.
@alkim1519 Honestly, I don't care what or if she is holding something on BSH, unless it is a crime like someone being unalived or at that level. I don't care if they had to lie about something in the beginning of BH, BTS, or anything like that. So what, it's been so long. BTS have proven themselves again and again over the years. I like their music catalog and the members seem genuinely like good people. What I care about are recent things. MHJ came into Hybe with bad and nefarious intentions. I can't forgive her or people like her. Unfortunately, NJ have aligned them with MHJ, so to me they are the sam as her.
총정리 깔끔 하게 해주셔서 감사해요
구독자가 더더 많이 늘어야합니다 많은 분들이 보셔야 합니다❤ 넘나 유익한 방송🙏🙏🙏
As far as the NJ YT ultimatum, I don’t see how anyone can think they did it all on their own without MHJ’s direction. When have you EVER known of them to go against a MHJ’s wishes? Answer is NEVER!
절대 불가! 대표 복귀는 말도 안 된다 법정으로 가서 끝장을 내야한다 그리고 뉴진스도 이젠 스트레스다 하이브 산하 걸그룹들 중 가장 많은 지원과 서포트 받아왔고 심지어 50억 이상 1년차에 정산도 받지 않았나? 다른 Kpop계의 무수히 많은 걸그룹들의 현실과 비교해서 고작 데뷔 1,2년차에 이런 특혜에 가까운 지원과 대우 받은 걸그룹은 거의 없을 거라 생각한다
I thought the rejection of the offer to retain production direction would occur. My opinion is that MHJ is more interested in the stock options she lost that came with the CEO position than the continued success and well-being of NJ.
민희진은 세종과 마콜을 대체 무슨 돈으로 운용하는걸까요? 월급쟁이가 그렇게 돈이 많다고?
It is high possibility that Min Hee Jin is Kakao's spy.
Guess MHJ FORGOT that SHE IS AN EMPLOYEE NOT A SHAREHOLDER OR OWNER
현직 기자가 왜 제보를 하죠? 자신이 기사를 써야지 그것부터 구린내가 펄펄납니다
@@당장멈춰 전직 기자 임
항상 수고하십니다^^
감사합니다~
이런 좋은 채널이 있는지 몰랐네요!!!
구독하고 갑니다 ❤
kakao and mhj are really acting like drama villains, crazy how all the paths lead to kakao, also i wanted to ask if kakao ceo actually gets convicted will they have to get rid of a part of kakao bank since financial criminals can’t own more than 10% in stocks of a bank.
I wonder if this whole hassle kakao is making to take down hybe is really worth it since hybe market is just entertainment while kakao has a lot more things going on.
Kakao and SM are involved in criminal charges of stock manipulation to prevent Hybe from buying out SM late 2022!!!! I believe executives have been charged with this over the summer 2024!!!!
“Hybe participates in questionable media manipulation tactics!!” Proceeds to level a bunch of manipulative accusations and invites readers to speculate that Hybe is hiding something.
It’s so wild to follow an accusation of media manipulation with blatant media manipulation. In the literal next sentence. 😂😂😂
And the NJ video statement wasn't a textbook public manipulation tactic used by MHJ? Give me a break!!!!!!
@@nataliacoggins6769 let’s not forget her tearful press conference while styled to look like she’s the most worn down woman in history.
💯💯💯💯💯 For reals!!! 😂😂😂
@@BoraBaeOT7 Exactly!!!!! When the girls realized they seriously committed a breach of contract, they removed it. But why stand by her, when they saw first hand how she led them to do this??? They are stupid and so brainwashed!!! Pitiful. 😢😢
가짜뉴스를 정정해주니 폄하라니 웃겨죽겠네,, 근데 확실히 ( 느낌)이 대세네, 하다하다 이젠 기자까지 제보라면서 느낌으로 인터뷰를하네, 세상 참 재미가있어~~
사이다 컨텐츠 감사합니다
What made her think that someone like her could take over a conglomerate like Hybe?! And what makes her think ANY company would put a person like her would put her back in a controlling position, after she tried to hatch a plan to take over Hybe! She’s accusing Hybe of perpetrating all the shady behaviour she, herself, is guilty of! It’s laughable…she’s be thrown out of court on her 🫏 with her outrageous demands!!!
Be ready for more drama (5 years) until the end of their contract.
I’m soo done with NewJeans and MHJ. They are spoiled and ungrateful. They will no Ador without HYBE money to begin with.
MHJ has no ownership rights in Ador and could not have the label without Hybe under any circumstances, since Ador is owned by Hybe. Hybe founded Ador and appointed MHJ as chief executive officer.
She’s lost her mind! Hybe will NEVER take her back in ANY capacity!
MHJ has been offered a lifeline by Hybe/Ador by remaining as performance director for 5 years. She should take this gladly to try and gain back some of the trust and respect she has lost, and also keep working with NJ who she cares so much about? If she continues down this path of lies and deception, how could she ever be trusted by anyone in this industry again?💜
Bye bye NJ Army will not allow you un the house of Hybe
MHJ followers have finally shown their play by sending those wreath flowers they can’t say it’s Armys this time around .Shortsighted people indeed !
민희진 욕심 때문에 뉴진스만 나락가네
이러니 개콘이 망한거임. 아놔 진짜....
좋은 영상 감사합니다.
Why the compromise? Hybe is too nice. Why choose to keep snakes in your company?
They didn't. It was a trap to make her choose and expose her intentions. There's no way she would produce NJ for their benefit because she's their 'mom' and 'cares' so much.
She's more pained about some 100M..
because of the negative backlash from the general public that still pro MHJ & NJ. .. online bullying is really serious can damage HYBE reputation there ..
@@rebeccaavoca9143 yup and also the kmedia is out to get HYBE at all cost. Why they are supporting a snake like her is beyond me. Is it a feminist thing? Maybe Hybe should consider moving all operations out of SK
okay so that leagal lawsuit they are talking about is that about mhj crimes, or the nj case? i also think that what hybe did by offering an ultimatum is good because that signals they have good intetions towards nj. but court will also see that they will never be able to trust mhj again as a ceo so as an internal director it comes without power and access to internal files of other artists. witch is understabable.
MHJ and nj looks like total brats who don´t there will. and i think the media is so dirty so many powerful people is involved with the disirre to take down bhs and bts. but i feel like there is a wall because some higher ups is often neutral because they didn´t allow the haters to get sugas informatinon on his social service and also they were quick to say that this would not affect his service becaue it happened in his free time. they had their chance to end suga by lying but they didn´t, so that is at good thing. but the coruption is really crazy. i live in denmak where we don´t have any corruption at least not that i have seen or heard so this makes me so angry to see.
The lawsuit everyone is talking about has not started yet, and potentially it might not happen. Everyone is assuming that NJ will sue Ador for breach of contract, so they can cancel their contracts without paying the penalty. #minheejinout
Thank you! I'd rather the drama be contained in drama shows that end in 16 - 20 episodes :) MHJ is an employee, period. Each employer will state which actions are accepted and wanted. Then, there are other actions which will not be accepted and have repercussions. MHJ seems to present only volatile emotional responses. She was offered to stay with her group and complete her long term plan. It is not enough for her. Seriously, I don't think she will be happy with anything the company will offer. She will always want more.
언플은 에스엠 카카오처럼~ 원칙대로 하는 사람들이 욕먹는 세상
It's about money, power and control. Not being a CEO of Ador is losing those.😅
MHJ's controversy and Suga's case have made South Korean media the laughingstock of the world. I hope that journalists with integrity will achieve greater success after learning from this negative example.
It is so difficult to be respectful and class when it comes to MHJ she just needs to go away go away and leave HYBE alone!
She is very ridiculous. How can you come into somebody company and wants to steal the company away by creating all these unnecessary problems like it’s her rights? why she feel so entitled she needs to go away. I’m so tired of hearing her name and seeing her all over social media right now for all the wrong reasons too. She needs to just go away.
Why doesn’t Kakao just give her the money pay the penalties for NJ to leave HYBE and to start her own label. Then we can see what they can do! I am so tired of them all!!! If HYBE is so bad, leave! We won’t miss you!!!
이진호 기자님 넘 속상하죠
팩트 정정을 요청 하니깐
폄하 한다는 느낌을 받았다
그래서 장기자는 그 느낌을 제보한다
알잖아? 느낌적인 느낌
장형우 기자는 위대한 한국 언론인 😓😬😤
MHJ/Kakao's intent is to drag it on. The only purposes are publicity fatigue and stock price impact. Prolonging the drama can also give opportunity for a "Black Swan" event (troubling unexpected event).
But global ambassador Kim Seok-Jin and the return of J-Hope next month and the other Hybe artists and their comebacks will be formidable.
Well, her contract is up at the beginning of November, if she doesn't take the offer.
Now I know not to use Kakao when I come back to Seoul next year.
민 뒷배가 카카오라는게 드러난 건가?
카카오 뒤에 중국
Damn, MHJ really put the girls in front of the battle as shields, away from all the stuff she’d planned and done against Hybe, BTS, and NJ themselves. She only cares about herself, her plans, money, and power. Her talent is now rendered useless and undermined by her money and power hungry self.
I was waiting for you to post
Me too
조심스런 추측해봅니다..
뉴진스 부모가 어도어와 만남 이후 나온 민희진의 5년 계약을 제안했다는 건 ..
뉴진스 부모들도 현상황을 인지했고 그래서 민희진의 프로디싱 원했기에 어도어는 대표는 안되지만 최대한의 프로듀스로서 뉴진스의 계약기간을 협의를 발표했지만..
민희진이 이 내용을 바로 반박하므로
뉴진스와 부모들은 민희진과 헤어질 결심을 할것이라고 추측해봅니다..
향후 가처분 신청을 할지는 추후 봐야겠지만..
어도어가 보낸 개인 공식 문서의 내용은 알려지지 않았지만 ..
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민희진 문제에 참여한 뉴진스 부모들이 이젠 헤어질 결심을 할것으로 조심스런 추측해봅니다 ...
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맞네요. 뉴진스와 가족 의견을 최대한 수용할 수 있다는 것을 보여줬지만 판을 깨는 행동은 결국폐대퓨민씨라는 걸 모두가 알아야죠.
인제 뉴진스와 가적들은 우리가 협상해서 PD5년 받아 냈으니 군말없이 받아들이라고 폐대퓨에게 밀해야 합니다. 아니면 민희진을 끝내야죠.
@@lovemyself174피프티랑은 전혀다른게 피프티는 다른회사대표가 남의 걸그룹 데리고 나가려 한거지만 뉴진스건은 본사에서 맘에안드는 자회사 대표 내쫒는 건임
자회사 대표는 본사애서 자기가 키운 아이들 본사횡포에서 지키려는 생각한거고 본사는 그 생각만으로 내쫒은것임 그외에 상상에 따른 온갖 추측은 어짜피 추측일뿐
가처분소송의 법원판결은 배임은 아니다였고, 그
이유는 실행으로 옮기지않았고 하이브에 실질적 피해를 준
것은 없기 때문이라 했음
그리고 배신행위는 인정된다는 것임. 즉 하이브가 모은
배임의 증거들은 인정된다는 것인데 뭔 하이브가 생각만으로 맘에 안 드는 대표를 잘랐다는 헛소리를함? 그리고 애초 어도어도 전액 하이브 자본으로 설립됐고 뉴진스 멤버들까지 전부 빅히트와 소스 뮤직 연습생 출신들 지원해준 건데 뭔 본사의 횡포임? 출발부터 BTS여동생 그룹이라 광고해서 아미들의 전폭적인 지원 있었고 초호화 뮤비들과 마케팅 등 하이브 지원 없었으면 아예 뜰 수조차 없었는데 거기다 데뷔 1,2년차에 50억 이상 정산받고 KPOP계의 다른 무수히 많은 중소 기획사 걸그룹들과 비교해보셈 뉴진스가 본사의 횡포를 받았다고 말할 수 있는지
HYBE needs to get their own Shaman and put a curse on MHJ. Period.
She brings too much chaos and destruction to the world
Actually, they just need a protection spell on themselves. MHJ's shaman's spells will bounce back on her and she will be miserable.
구독과 좋아요 눌렀습니다.
I bet the clauses she doesn’t like in that contract are things like : Cannot use the internet for personal reasons, can’t be alone with artists, null and void if you are found liable in any of the lawsuits against you, every time you trash talk your employer, you have to stand in the corner…
I am so sick of mhj's antics 😞
Wow PARiS seems to love ILLIT so much they are in France right now plenty fans came in the rain for the them these girls are the new Blackpink???
MHJ is so narcissistic how could anyone even be her friend? NJs wake up!
정의가 무엇인지~ 정말 답답한 세상 왜 사람들은 올바로 판단하지 못하는걸까? 민씨는 정의롭지도 상식적이지도 않다
This has been the craziest kdrama 💀
Lol shes so obsessed with HYBE and wont leave.
So sick.
Is it because a CEO position gets her put option stocks back? It has to be money or she would except that contract. Who calls a contract toxic anyway, that’s not a thing. Maybe she thinks it’s possessed by an entity of some kind.
이진호 기자님 고맙다고 전하고 십습니다
BTS의 팬 수많은 아미들이 민희진 Out! 원하니까 ㅁㅎㅈ이 원하는대로 받아 들일수가 없고 받아 들이면 안된다.믿을수 없는 ㅁㅎㅈ...
Thank you for giving clear and concise information. It gets confusing, especially with the language barriers. Much appreciated.
그 제보 기자 하이브 주가 떨어트리려구 역으로 뉴진스 폄하 한 것 같아요. 일본실적.
내년 BTS완전체 복귀하면 하이브 주가는 계속 상승합니다 하이브를 무너뜨리려는 세력들이 왜 BTS가 군대간 공백기를 노려 공격하는지 답이 뻔하잖아요
Entertainment world could be a lot different. But business of enter. world would not be much different. There should be very harsh and hard decision on MHJ as she apparently intruded the company contract and intended treason. People could be symphyses on her because she looks much weaker and a loser. But business is business. It is an interesting topic to watch.
이진호 기자 소신것 사실을 근거해 말씀 하시는데 속 시원 했어요 사실을 만하면 돈받았다 하는건 지들이 그리해서 그래요 민씨는 소수의 세력들로 여론이라 착각하고 기고만장 합니다 어찌 생각도 초딩 인지 하이브는 로비 절대 안합니다 민씨가 무슨 계획이 있는듯 합니다 애들 이용하는것만 봐도 어른이 아니죠 제발 사람들이 억지소리 안했음 좋겠어요
민씨측의 소통 컨설팅그룹이란데가 쓴 입장문을 보니 아마추어스럽기 짝이 없다 ㅋ
갓 성인이 된 사람이 쓴 글이 아닌가 의심될 정도. 주절주절 생떼를 쓰는 내용밖에 없네
now we all know mhj true intention...mhj never care about nj...mhj only care about the power...wake up bunnies...ur beloved nj just being used by nj for her selfish greed
언플은 민희진씨가 최고 아닌가요?ㅋㅋ ㅋㅋ
NJ saying they want MHJ back. MHJ bring offered to come back and work with the girls until their contract expired. MHJ rejecting said offer and demanding a position that no sane business would give her after her actions.
She is not acting with the girls in mind. If she wants what's best for them and they want her to work with them, then compromise with Ador and Hybe. They are offering a chance when frankly, a lot of people don't think she should get it, including ARMY with the statement and hashtag MHJ Out.
She's fussy that the contract is strict, but what was she expecting? She abused her position in the past and proven again and again that she is not protecting the company and cannot be trusted. She has conflicts with other labels and groups who have taken legal action against her (belift for defamation), she has planned to take over Ador, planned to take down BTS while they were out serving their country, she has insulted NJ themselves in text messages, she has mishandled a sexual harassment case which the victim also intends to take her to court. If I was Hybe I would do the same in this case.
If mhj dint accept the terms fr bth producer and internal director, her contract ends on November 1st right??
November is her BOD membership. Without it, she cannot be appointed as CEO (according to Korean Law). Her employment contract I think has 2 or 3 more years.
@@neljade3341if a reporter finds Min and another label worked to destroy Adore, BTS or Hybe would she finally be cut from Hybe?
@@elizabethbesco4758 she can continue to stay at Hybe until the end of her employment contract if she wants to but for sure people will avoid working with her and she won't have the free access to important floors; or she can terminate her contract and leave (but of course she won't, lol, as we can all see that she is after the money). The involvement of the reporter needs evidence. And its collection is a process that will need time. The fact is Hybe is doing a great job, being professional and keeping their cards close to their chest until their legal team is ready to spring the ample response. What we do as international fans is counter the manipulation being perpetuated on SNS, determine if what you read is a news or Puff piece.
정신차려라. 뉴진스 삼푼이 꼴 날라?
이미 그꼴났음 음반판매량 보면 답나옴 국내 90만장빼고 해외서 겨우 12만장 퍌음
En una canasta llena de manzanas si una está podrida todas corren con la misma suerte, ,,se pudren,,!
카카오 텐센트자본.
워너. 중국자본.
워너. 다니엘 언니 계약.
민희진 카카오 초기 탬퍼링 진행하다 걸림.
워너 피프티 탬퍼링 진행.
이거 나만이상하냐?
나만 이상하냐?
No , you're not alone , it's very suspicious
Everyone can see clearly what is happening but will the korean law do anything about it?!
From what we saw countless times, the korean law gives criminals a slap on the wrist and let them continue with their crimes.
Kakao especially gets special treatment and they get away with all their crimes from stealing the golf game and the taxi app manipulation to name a few. They only got fines and were allowed to keep everything.
Warner USA is going down with Diddy. 😊 All the CEOs are quitting . Warner Korea tampering charges. I bet Hybe will eventually take over the bankrupt Warner😊 it's been shady since it's founding but had a lot of power like SM.
I will say it again: The fact that these Middle Age 15th century tactics still work in modern day Korea continues to baffle me! Also, when I saw NJ Japan fanmeet, a lot of their fans included young lads/people of the age you would expect to have better analytical ability than fall for such clownery! That makes all these all the more shocking! S.Korea, how about directing your anger to some real issues? (I say this with complete awareness that my country is no better but this is another level of ridiculousness!)
박가네.. 일본 소식 알려주는 큰채널이 있어요
푸른산호초가 한국 언론에 도배 될때 이건 이상하다고 했어요
하이브는 소속 가수들을 일본 방송에 다 출연 시킬수 있는 파워가 있다
뉴진스 일본 인기는 작은편이다
일본 방송국은 한국 보다 더 폐쇄적이다
일본 신문 광고는 아이돌 굿즈 이벤트 중 하나일 뿐이다
..이런 내용을 알려주셨어요
맞습니다.
일본은 정말 폐쇠적이죠!
그래서 일본진출을 위해서 일본인 멤버를 두는것입니다.
일본인 멤버가 들어있으면 힘들이지 않고 홍보를 해주거든요...
일본에서는 하니가 푸른산호초를 그옛날 일본전설적인 아이돌 노래를 부른거에 신기해했을 따름인것 같았습니다. 그뒤 랭킹에서 그 노래를부른 마츠다세이코의 푸른산호초가 다시 회자되어 랭크인 하기도했죠.
뉴진스의 노래가 아니라...
SNS에서야 일본팬들이 있으니
열심히들 부각시켰겠지만,
일본에 살고있는 보통 대중들에게는 그다지 실감은 없었습니다.
요즘 일본인 멤버가 섞여있는 케이팝가수들 자주 티비음악방송에 나오기때문에 그렇게 신기해 하지도 않고 일본그룹들도 케이팝 스타일이 많아져서 잘모르는 사람들은 한국 아이돌인지 일본 아이돌인지 구분이 안되는 그정도 입니다.
저도 잘모를 정도니까요..
한국언론을 보면 일본에서 난리 난것처럼 떠들어대서 너무 우스웠습니다. 온도차가 너무심해서...
일본에서의 앨범 판매량을 보면 일본최고 인기가수 요아소비를 초청하지 않았으면 과연 도쿄돔을 채울수 있었을지 그것도 의심됩니다.
기사에 언급된 100만장이 실제는 3.8만장이었다는 게 진짜 충격이었어요 뉴진스가 화제성에 비해 빌보드, 유튭 파괴력이 너무 없어서 기대 이하다 생각했는데 일본 판매량은 진심 충격이었죠 그 100만장이란 기사는 뭘 근거로 어떻게 나온 건지 궁금합니다
Makes you wonder what kind of promises she made these people for them to lie and also drop this kind of stuff right when she is trying to pull something off.