Ex-7M Dancer Kylie Douglas’ MESSAGE to Miranda Derrick & Others in Group (Exclusive)

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  • Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
  • TikTok star Miranda Derrick’s parents and sister went public in a new Netflix docuseries, claiming she was being manipulated by an alleged cult leader, Robert Shinn. Now, Miranda is speaking out and claiming she and her husband are being stalked and threatened after being featured in “Dancing for the Devil.” “Extra” talks to Kylie Douglas, a former member of 7M and Shekinah, who reacts to Miranda’s denials that she is a victim and needs help. Kylie shares her experience with leaving the group and her message to Miranda and others who are still involved.
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  • @carolyna.2527
    @carolyna.2527 21 день тому +88

    First red flag is you NEVER need an invite to attend a church, your choice!

  • @PansyShimoide
    @PansyShimoide 26 днів тому +84

    I don’t think Miranda saw the documentary. If she knew what happened to Priscilla she would get the hell out of there!

    • @lilij1915
      @lilij1915 26 днів тому +1

      What actually happened? I haven’t seen the doc. Did they take over her finances etc?

    • @micheledavis9280
      @micheledavis9280 25 днів тому

      ​@@lilij1915Robert has brooms some girls into a sexual relationship. Aka r?pe. He pins the girls against each other. It's best for you just watch the doc. If you haven't already

    • @suziepie3132
      @suziepie3132 25 днів тому +8

      Not just their finances but also SA..

    • @helenaterschegget8791
      @helenaterschegget8791 25 днів тому

      @@lilij1915he sexually assaults all the women… and Kylie said he tried it with her too, he asked her to massage her. Kylie even said couldn’t trust her own boyfriend because they will tell on each other. Shinn also makes sure they change roommates, this is the technique they use, so you never feel save, on your toes. They make you work, read, talk, all day long, so you are exhausted and can’t think normal anymore.

    • @helenaterschegget8791
      @helenaterschegget8791 25 днів тому +14

      Isn’t it interesting Miranda says they are so busy with the documentary they aren’t with her to have a relationship. While we can see that documentary Miranda, they keep driving to you and you won’t answer, you don’t anwer their calls. We can hear shinn preaching that your family should be dead to you, unalive. No where in the Bible it says that. Miranda could have just told her family including her grandmother you want no contact whatsoever, they wouldn’t need to find out why, that she doesn’t is actually telling. She comes up with 1000 excuses it somehow is her family fault, and anyone with a logic mind, can see there is only one thing that changed, and that was when she moved into shinns house.
      It’s sad, because seeing the older sisters, one got out just recently, she had nothing and never lived a normal life, she is too old to start her own family now, and she realizes how much shinn stole from her, he stole her life, he stole her best years.

  • @ranstxx
    @ranstxx 24 дні тому +41

    Dancing for this weird guy and handing over all the money to him is very odd

    • @usagi_t
      @usagi_t 5 днів тому

      Greed and recognition are bigger than anything for these dancers.

  • @AndreaJones-eh3sd
    @AndreaJones-eh3sd 23 дні тому +22

    Go home darling, he only wants you for the money you bring him.

  • @carmenreed1416
    @carmenreed1416 23 дні тому +30

    How about stop following them.

    • @drtbke
      @drtbke 6 днів тому +2

      Literally the thing that would stop this. 7M dancers subscriber counts all drop under 1 million subscribers and they would sprain their ankles from running out of that place so fast.

  • @dianeleone1634
    @dianeleone1634 23 дні тому +14

    Our immediate family members were involved in a group for 25 years until the Bishop ((Cleveland Dioceses))) wrote a 2 page letter in our local newspaper Akron Beacon Journal, asking the 200+ members to attend their church(s) and hear the Gospels and Epistle .. My initial thought was what happened in Guyana could happen to my in-laws... Well, some members moved to Corpus Christi, others to St. Louis... I believe since my in laws passed away ,it will take another 20years to de-program the adult children..

  • @jhingbangayan762
    @jhingbangayan762 21 день тому +20

    "The Bible promotes the Church being open to everyone. It is never exclusive" there's no membership to enter.... I read the Bible since I learned how to read. I ALSO WENT TO CHRISTIAN SCHOOL. "THE BIBLE DOESN'T PROMOTE PROFITS OR BECOMING RICH." THE BIBLE PROMOTES LOVE, CHARITY, RESPECT FOR OTHERS AND FOR SELF. THE BIBLE doesn't exploit anyone.

    • @drtbke
      @drtbke 6 днів тому

      @@jhingbangayan762 there’s no locked gates or invitations for entry at church. To me, that’s enough to lose your 501(c)(3) status. Maybe that’s how one chink in his armor can be removed, by going after Shinekah’s “church” privilege

    • @drtbke
      @drtbke 6 днів тому

      Also, “Shinekah” is a stupid name for his cult oops I mean church

  • @michaeljustice124
    @michaeljustice124 25 днів тому +34

    That documentary was heartbreaking. I’m really hoping Miranda gets out. Her family seems like they’re really nice people and it’s hard to watch them suffer.

    • @KeyAppyMeganpr1
      @KeyAppyMeganpr1 17 днів тому

      Where all can you watch the documentary? I want to watch it but we don't have Netflix

    • @Theblazedgoddess
      @Theblazedgoddess 16 днів тому

      @@KeyAppyMeganpr1just Netflix I’m pretty sure

  • @JenShea
    @JenShea 3 дні тому +2

    She is well spoken young lady and I applaud her efforts to get her friend out. The documentary was shocking.

  • @rileyyyrilez808
    @rileyyyrilez808 23 дні тому +22

    I could see Robert orchestrating those comments and emails towards Miranda. It’s been proven in the past he’s had ppl create fake accounts to boost ppls instas. Also I find it odd that they’re both supposedly being attacked but it’s only her addressing it. Idk I feel like as a married couple they’d do a video together and present a united front… she might be getting actual threats and hate but I can see Robert having a larger role in that.

  • @francescaa8331
    @francescaa8331 13 днів тому +4

    Dancers should not be threatened. They are young people and being taken advantage of. Simply encouraged to go get a manager that won't take all their money.

  • @user-fv8rm8wo7i
    @user-fv8rm8wo7i 7 днів тому +1

    Abandoning your loving family to go dance for some weird-ass dude with a shady church is insane!!

  • @oliviamadison6440
    @oliviamadison6440 24 дні тому +16

    People need to watch this documentary before defending Miranda and this creep Robert shimm

    • @usagi_t
      @usagi_t 5 днів тому

      Bots are defending these morons.

  • @teresawhite4427
    @teresawhite4427 18 днів тому +3

    James Derrick, aka Bdash, was involved with another cult once before, I believe, mentioned in the documentary. He left that one and walked right into the current alleged church/cult, but this time, he introduced Miranda to it. They married once in the church.

  • @Storm_And_Reign
    @Storm_And_Reign 13 днів тому +2

    It’s hard because the dancers are thinking adults. We have to teach kids how to think and be skeptical.

  • @rauchlorraine
    @rauchlorraine 21 день тому +12

    Miranda is extremely talented and doesn't need this predator to pimp her out.

    • @thorazine0076
      @thorazine0076 20 днів тому +3

      Im sure her boyfriend is controlled and she won't leave without him

    • @mikellwells3286
      @mikellwells3286 19 днів тому

      ​@@thorazine0076how are you so sure? Where's the proof?

    • @thorazine0076
      @thorazine0076 19 днів тому

      @@mikellwells3286 The documentation on Netflix series, Degreed in Psy where we studied abnormalities in human behavior. I'm very sure of it.

  • @heatherc.5760
    @heatherc.5760 24 дні тому +9

    Can't help someone if they don't help themselves n that quote is the epitome of Miranda's thinking at the moment they have too see it for themselves. It's her way of life especially if she is also married too someone into it too.

  • @515ventures3
    @515ventures3 23 дні тому +8

    Miranda is so brainwashed!! Why would she fall for Bondage Christianity!!! i don't believe anything she says!! She was so ignorant before moving to Cali!! The honeymoon will soon be over!! Everything Robert ever said in that Netflix series is a load of garbage!!! I cannot believe that people still fall for this crap!!! i had to deal with Bondage Christianity back in the 90's when i was a child, so this place would have had me laughing and walking away within 2 seconds!! My intuitive radar now as an adult is very sharp!! i can sense that i am in the presence of a christian with no verbal communication very quickly, when i am in the public!! That is how much shit i have been thru!! i guess there is still people out there that are still easily controlled by Fear!!! So sad!! So preventable!! I guess you have to live and learn!! I remember seeing "Miranda Shorts" on UA-cam. To me it felt like she was forcing it. It felt fake. i hope she can someday wake up, before it's too late. Being controlled by someone, could cost you your life. She hasn't studied much history. She is too busy dancing, and making money that has no meaning in life. so, so sad. Her family deserves a huge apology and i hope Robert gets convicted in 2025-2026 and gets a 30 year sentence. He is already getting pretty old, so that would be a life sentence for him. Then he can tell everyone in prison that he is a man of God, while other men r a. p e. him. LOL. I would never trust a Christian Pastor, if you have done your homework within hidden knowledge! Lets just leave it at that.

    • @19holly19
      @19holly19 20 днів тому +1

      No verbal communication and you know if someone is a Christian? There absolutely are churches that are simply about raking in money, have nefarious individuals in leadership or are just poorly run but it isn't fair to insinuate all Christians are bad and to steer clear of them. I'm sorry you had a horrible experience and especially as a child. It's not just Christian churches who have wronged those who join but other religions as well. I'm not trying to preach to you and your faith is just that, yours but your comment seemed like you are anti Christianity when the same problems and even worse ones happen in all sorts of religions. It' is very sad to know there are sick people who twist words or have a deluded perception of what's written and use it to deceive so many but I believe there are far more churches doing good things for their communities but they get judged based on awful actions ofva few.

    • @515ventures3
      @515ventures3 20 днів тому

      @@19holly19 I despise the word Christianity! I accept the teachings of Jesus, without Christianity. That is a stained word! There is so much hidden knowledge that almost all so called Christian’s do not have a clue about. They haven’t even seen salvation yet! Once Christians can learn to separate themselves from Christianity, then we can hold a conversation and dialog. Until then I will gladly ghost. I’m not wasting my time. You go ahead and enjoy your Sunday morning service. I’m not missing anything! Are we done here?

  • @charlottereynolds8394
    @charlottereynolds8394 10 днів тому +2

    I've never liked those dancers, especially Miranda. Now I know why.

  • @Papyrius
    @Papyrius 15 днів тому +2

    This is so sad. I listen to all the victims. At what point do they take responsibility after they find out that they are in a cult? If they are informed and know they have support. Why keep pushing them if they want too stay? It is so obvious they are willing to sacrifice their family in order to get the benefits from the cult.

  • @Linda19816
    @Linda19816 23 дні тому +5

    Some people are victims but some of them are just looking for fame. And that makes it difficult to help the true victims. What is up with Miranda’s sister dancing at the end of the video. Are you seeking justice or fame? It is not about you!

    • @usagi_t
      @usagi_t 5 днів тому +1

      Well, she is a dancer too! But I agree they are not victims anymore. They had a chance to leave like other dancers did.

  • @stacyhunter2710
    @stacyhunter2710 20 днів тому +3

    Omg so sad. I hope these young people get free

  • @user-Atimetotwirl
    @user-Atimetotwirl 18 днів тому +1

    I've been following this heartbreaking❤❤

  • @KrishnapriyaMaa
    @KrishnapriyaMaa 15 днів тому +1

    I have not doubt crazies are now threatening Miranda. I feel that is real.

  • @Slowpace68
    @Slowpace68 25 днів тому +12

    How can I stop all m7 dancers and any videos related to them I think hit the mans bank stop viewing

    • @helenaterschegget8791
      @helenaterschegget8791 24 дні тому +3

      Just don’t watch it, at some point it will , the algorithm links it

  • @paycheck4550
    @paycheck4550 16 днів тому +1

    Don't know much about this story but I know that every Cult I've seen live in gated Communities, where family are not allowed to visit loved ones .Real religions teach that families are the most important unit in Gods eyes and would never stop parents visiting there children.

  • @JanelleGarcia-ek3oo
    @JanelleGarcia-ek3oo 12 днів тому +2

    #STOP7MCULT

  • @nathalievienneau6864
    @nathalievienneau6864 24 дні тому +18

    This is for sure a cult, if u watched the netflix doc, if it had been just the dancers id have doubt. But those 2 sisters, from his previous Church Based cult spoke, the credibility in their story and the way the older sister still behaves CLEARLY shows this is real

    • @helenaterschegget8791
      @helenaterschegget8791 24 дні тому +4

      That’s so sad, as the younger sister got out, she married and had a child. The other sister was in there for at least another decade,and was basically only used for sex. Until his new wife got too jealous, and started hitting her, and shinn ofcourse does nothing. She herself says I never lived a normal life I don’t know what it is. When her sister gets upset with her she wasn’t there as an aunt for his birthday. She said I literally don’t even know what it means. Her realization she lots the best years not just a couple over 20 years to this man, and has nothing. All the money she earned went to him. I hope she realizes she still has many happy years ahead of her. You also realize someone can’t just be by her or himself when he or she gets out. They are so vulnerable and she herself says, sometimes it seems easier to just run back in. :( this man has ruined so many lives

    • @mikellwells3286
      @mikellwells3286 19 днів тому

      There was no real proof shown. Multiple investigations have been conducted and closed. No arrests.
      In my opinion this was a calculated hit piece to knock the 7m dancers out of the spotlight so the less talented dancers could have a chance at the brand deals
      As far as the church receiving 30%, this is not exclusive to Shekina church. Many churches practice 10% tithes, 10% first fruits, and 10% offering.
      Shekinah church is a separate entity from the dance group management. There are dancers that don't belong to the church.
      If my mom and dad did all the things Miranda's parents did to her (don't take my word for it... research it) it would take years to repair the damage they have done to their own daughter.

    • @user-gc4zy2sr2g
      @user-gc4zy2sr2g 17 днів тому +1

      What he was doing during that sisters’ era was pure slavery, and I don’t see anyone talking about it. The people built businesses for him, had no control over their own lives or income, not to mention the other disgusting behavior. It’s outrageous.

  • @nathalievienneau6864
    @nathalievienneau6864 24 дні тому +2

    You cannot force these dancers out go for the leader if he goes to jail his following will fall, he aint warren jeffs lol he aint got the resources to fund a life in jail plus court fees etc.

  • @staceydelbucchia2576
    @staceydelbucchia2576 18 днів тому +2

    God bless you for speaking out...this is all very evil..I pray for all the members that they see the light ....find the one true God and get out of this wickedness...ephesians 5:11...expose evil...God works it out for your good Romans 8:28...peace

  • @marisarubio6523
    @marisarubio6523 15 днів тому +1

    Get out of that CULT! your family is waiting for you!

  • @byronc7284
    @byronc7284 10 днів тому

    I was on a cult. I totally get both sides. It is her life and she is a consenting adult.

  • @missmindy327
    @missmindy327 23 дні тому +21

    EVERYONE/ if you want to help Miranda WE HAVE TO STOP WATCHING THESE VIDEOS !
    we need to help Miranda find her way back to her family! Let’s make the month of July “DANCING FOR HER WAY TO FAMILY” month. Boycott this social media channel and spread the word! No views equals no money equals hell. She has to reach the bottom before she can bounce back up!
    LETS GET MIRANDA BACK TO HER FAMILY!
    BOYCOTT IN JULY! Who’s with me?! 👍🏻❤

    • @Slowpace68
      @Slowpace68 22 дні тому +1

      Pull a bud light on HIM BOYCOTT baby

    • @user-Atimetotwirl
      @user-Atimetotwirl 18 днів тому +2

      I've already stopped watching hers this is seperate more the accts I found shinns son acct

    • @Slowpace68
      @Slowpace68 18 днів тому +1

      I am

    • @KeyAppyMeganpr1
      @KeyAppyMeganpr1 17 днів тому +1

      Missmindy I'm with you!!!!

    • @teresawhite4427
      @teresawhite4427 9 днів тому

      ​@user-Atimetotwirl They have been posting on account @ The Last Dance Benders? The photo used is a similar character from the movie The Last Air Bender?

  • @scampion2397
    @scampion2397 4 дні тому +1

    Get rid of TikTok already

  • @user-re2xr3ni8u
    @user-re2xr3ni8u 14 днів тому

    I think people should butt out. She’s an adult. She’ll figure it out when she’s supposed to. If this stuff is even true.

  • @lucyj7688
    @lucyj7688 20 днів тому +1

    Wow! Is all I can say.🇦🇺😳

  • @llodise1
    @llodise1 4 дні тому

    Just like Scientology

  • @raspberry_dreams
    @raspberry_dreams 25 днів тому +4

    She could have left so many times like when she met her family for Christmas at their home! Sick man! I hope she is about to escape back to her loving family! I hope he is prosecuted!! It’s only right!

  • @bt4582
    @bt4582 15 днів тому

    Kylie is so beautiful! I wish Miranda and Bbash the best!

  • @1FitRDN
    @1FitRDN 16 днів тому

    It’s a bunch of nonsense. Melanie and her parents have been paid a lot for that one-sided documentary. To think Miranda is coming home now is also nonsense.

  • @nathalievienneau6864
    @nathalievienneau6864 24 дні тому +4

    And again for all to know: if ur leader or pastor, priest, whatever says he is speaking for God, or Jesus Christ, or is a Messiah, u are in a cult run. Lol

  • @ranstxx
    @ranstxx 24 дні тому +3

    I bet the messages are done by that pastor

  • @jidomin
    @jidomin 19 днів тому +1

    돈을 좋아하는 목사는 100% 컬트입니다.

  • @miyasatodiana
    @miyasatodiana 15 днів тому +1

    Les lavaron el cerebro 😢que lástima...

  • @signsofplay
    @signsofplay 26 днів тому +17

    Get Dr. Steven Hassan to help free her. He is a cult expert who has been rescuing cult members for many years and has written books about it.

    • @signsofplay
      @signsofplay 26 днів тому +1

      @@lilij1915 If you ever have any question of whether you are in a cult or not, go to the BITE Model. Look for it online. Each letter stands for something.

    • @signsofplay
      @signsofplay 26 днів тому

      @@lilij1915 Look into the BITE model and what is stands for.

    • @Charlotte.4C
      @Charlotte.4C 26 днів тому +4

      ​@@lilij1915
      The writing on the wall is rather huge, so I don't understand, can't you read and did someone have to write this comment for you!

    • @LisaGallegos
      @LisaGallegos 26 днів тому +6

      @@Charlotte.4CI think it’s Robert shin lol they’re commenting on every video

    • @Charlotte.4C
      @Charlotte.4C 26 днів тому +2

      @@LisaGallegos
      Definitely 👍

  • @dkimster
    @dkimster 20 днів тому +5

    I dunno. Families can be just as controlling if not more damaging than religious people. Just look at Brittany Spears. Miranda has every right to follow her heart and live her life by her own choices.

    • @sm2593
      @sm2593 17 днів тому +1

      They can be, but have you watched the documentary? I think the family have legitimate concerns.

  • @alexthagreat85
    @alexthagreat85 2 дні тому +1

    Unfollow 7M

  • @Melissa-jj8qg
    @Melissa-jj8qg 26 днів тому

    Ii ok

  • @Beswift1989
    @Beswift1989 24 дні тому +4

    Sue them all Miranda. Christian’s stand by your choice to become a believer. Praying for you. ❤

    • @oliviamadison6440
      @oliviamadison6440 24 дні тому +6

      What are you talking about

    • @mikellwells3286
      @mikellwells3286 19 днів тому

      Agreed. We have the right to religious freedom regardless who has an issue with it or why
      Bunches of dancers left... but Miranda can't leave? Makes no sense.

  • @itsweaponX
    @itsweaponX 23 дні тому +4

    Watched this entire video and I couldn't find a single piece of evidence to support that Miranda's part of a cult. Maybe she is. Or maybe she just got serious about her Christian faith. Either way, leave the girl alone. Her family lost all hope of reconciliation by helping create a documentary to destroy their daughter's hard earned reputation.

    • @AndreaJones-eh3sd
      @AndreaJones-eh3sd 23 дні тому

      If everyone’s saying it’s a cult then ye it’s probably a cult. Nothing to do with religion, it’s just a method of control in the name of ‘God’

    • @interesante80
      @interesante80 22 дні тому +3

      Watch the documentary.

    • @user-Atimetotwirl
      @user-Atimetotwirl 18 днів тому

      It appears miranda would talk to them even before they were upset.. they gave her space..its odd she doesn't want to share her success with her family

    • @rogerdixon1069
      @rogerdixon1069 15 днів тому

      Her hard earned reputation?? They make 30-second dance snippets. Or she poses for a camera. That kind of fame is pretty fleeting

  • @georgiabelle5176
    @georgiabelle5176 24 дні тому +5

    Miranda seems pretty smart to me. Leave her alone

    • @nickbearden8508
      @nickbearden8508 24 дні тому +6

      She seems like she’s easily brainwashed to me.

    • @oliviamadison6440
      @oliviamadison6440 24 дні тому +6

      Miranda is easily persuaded.. that’s not smart

    • @sm2593
      @sm2593 17 днів тому

      Young people are easily manipulated by people like this and she was young when she joined.

    • @user-gc6ny7tp1h
      @user-gc6ny7tp1h 7 днів тому

      Smart?

    • @georgiabelle5176
      @georgiabelle5176 2 дні тому

      MYOB

  • @anndelgado1521
    @anndelgado1521 19 днів тому +1

    Why do these people have to put BDASH and MIRANDA through this? I feel like her family is racist, and they're trying to separate James and Miranda. She is an adult, and highly talented and intelligent. She has made the decision on the path she wants to take, now, leave her alone, and quit trying to ruin her life.

    • @sm2593
      @sm2593 17 днів тому +1

      Have you watch the doc? 1. The family doesn't seem racist to me 2. It's not normal for a middle aged man to invite a group of young people to an exclusive dinner and tell them they've 'sinned' and that he can save them. 3. If you watch the documentary and watch the story about the other sisters, can you still defend this person? It's alleged he was sexually assaulting women in the cult.
      If you're still defending him then idk what to say.

    • @jackier.9391
      @jackier.9391 15 днів тому

      You are right. She is an adult and made the decision to support the continuity of a sexual predator. That means she is not a victim but an accomplice.

    • @donnadeegee2003
      @donnadeegee2003 14 днів тому +1

      That's why both sisters are married to black men, cause theyre racist, right.

  • @Beswift1989
    @Beswift1989 24 дні тому +3

    All these anti Christian’s. What if she switch churches and still didn’t want to talk to the family? The family is crazy. ❤

    • @oliviamadison6440
      @oliviamadison6440 24 дні тому +1

      You don’t know nothing about cults if you think that way

    • @AndreaJones-eh3sd
      @AndreaJones-eh3sd 23 дні тому +4

      You’re a fool if you don’t see him for what he is.

    • @interesante80
      @interesante80 22 дні тому +4

      It's not about Christianity. It's about a cult.

    • @mikellwells3286
      @mikellwells3286 19 днів тому

      @Beswift1989 I agree with you.

  • @imjusthereforthecomments4920
    @imjusthereforthecomments4920 24 дні тому +1

    Drama queen