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Gorgeous warship. 18” main guns, innovative fire control & sighting equipment, incredibly armored. But it was just a matter of time before it’s fate was sealed. The age of the battle wagon was over even before the war ever started….IMHO.
Not so. Read the generals from even those disagreed Rommel and Rudstedt agreed the British naval guns had far greater effect especially in armour than air supremacy, from Med to Normandy. Same thing Pacific, we feared their capitalships taking our islands they in reverse far more than air superiority. Even Korea historians and Chinese agree our retreat would’ve become war losing route if not for 24/7 shire bombardment inland tossing their tanks like toys, bunkers like ‘gopher holes’ MacArthur. Though I agree the carrier time had c come, if ever caught on surface, speed and or weather we still can’t control, Every time a capital ship managed to intercept a carrier either side disaster for carrier. Our history wafts over Leyte gulp sane as war of 1812, could’ve should’ve been disaster for us. Even never admit wrong psycho Halsey agreed Our army, navy and airforce had ancient fool Kurita turned into our invasion landings instead of escort carriers, would havd changed the war. ‘They couldn’t miss blind-folded, every munitions ship and tanker risked another Halifax disaster WW1. Our older BBS raised from Pearl had HE shells only, even if AP chance in hell vs Yamato even Nagatos out of range, just the type 24 torpedoes from ca’ and de’s. It would’ve been our ‘Midway’ and ‘Dunkirk’ but no thousands civilian craft from Australia to evacuate us, combined. It would take us, peak mass production peaked already falling, at least a year to replace the invasion shipping, tanks, planes, ehickes, artillery irreplaceable experienced hundreds thousands invasion and ship crews. In fact those historians who do delve into it all agree, not just the blow to our salvation of enemy and our Allie’s and neutrals too. The Japs had already agreed to our original capitulation terms under FDR, return all borders to sep 1939. Instead of revenge they could agree to spare our men for peace. Otherwise even our historians agreed had we lost Guadalcanal the US govt would collapse. The Brit’s miraculously saved 300,000 but handing over all that equipment and supplies to the enemy even he didn’t destroy the picket as should have, brought down the British government. No they weren’t quite obsolete yet. Men who insisted so like Yamamoto were already saying same submarines make carriers obsolete, not so. Admire your comments around ty.😉
@@jamiejones7325I think I got the gist of what you’re trying to say but still had to connect the dots. I’ll oversimplify it; naval bombardments could only be effective if air superiority was already achieved and only against coastal targets which includes small islands
And coincidentally, it was the IJN themselves who sealed their own fate by launching an effective air raid against Pearl Harbor. The British air raid on Taranto paved the way, the INJ studied and magnified their tactics at Pearl Harbor
@@SpaceForceCooks not quite. Weather. Fog machines. Risk. Airborne attack entails more risk from flack even just accident take off landings, than sitting off out of range behind 12+ inches of armour. If you read Gallopli through Rommel even Zhukov, he lost all his JS2 reinforcements for the month one day Kruegsmaribe supporting a pair of Tigers finding their sssembjy area. Normandy Rommel blamed the RN for tossing is heaviest tanks and fortifications surviving thousands of B24, B17, Lancaster and Halifax heaviest bombers like Caen. Canadians and Brit’s found the moon like cratering ended up favouring the defenders more. And this from the guy strafed in his own staff car. Right through Korea, if you read our history, if not for both the Cdn and Aussies rearguard sacrifice, Brit’s surprise amphibious landing with Churchill tanks the North too confident no tanks could not breach the sea wall climb steep mountains, and USN naval gun fire day AND night, we would’ve riuted and picket surrendered before Mac could create 2nd front landing barging lines opposite Inchon. Today airforce and navy have bunker busters. But like you, save the new rail gun battleship, carriers are like mobile England’s anymore able to extend our air power forcing China to build thousands of warplanes for their plan Taiwan to Korea and Japan. And Russia that super nuke torpedo counter to our carrier groups. Constant competitions. A ‘toxic masculinity’ word feminism has against official school policy today to ban/discourage, “competition.”🤯
Gorgeous warship. 18” main guns, innovative fire control & sighting equipment, incredibly armored. But it was just a matter of time before it’s fate was sealed. The age of the battle wagon was over even before the war ever started….IMHO.
Not so. Read the generals from even those disagreed Rommel and Rudstedt agreed the British naval guns had far greater effect especially in armour than air supremacy, from Med to Normandy.
Same thing Pacific, we feared their capitalships taking our islands they in reverse far more than air superiority.
Even Korea historians and Chinese agree our retreat would’ve become war losing route if not for 24/7 shire bombardment inland tossing their tanks like toys, bunkers like ‘gopher holes’ MacArthur.
Though I agree the carrier time had c come, if ever caught on surface, speed and or weather we still can’t control,
Every time a capital ship managed to intercept a carrier either side disaster for carrier.
Our history wafts over Leyte gulp sane as war of 1812, could’ve should’ve been disaster for us.
Even never admit wrong psycho Halsey agreed Our army, navy and airforce had ancient fool Kurita turned into our invasion landings instead of escort carriers, would havd changed the war.
‘They couldn’t miss blind-folded, every munitions ship and tanker risked another Halifax disaster WW1.
Our older BBS raised from Pearl had HE shells only, even if AP chance in hell vs Yamato even Nagatos out of range, just the type 24 torpedoes from ca’ and de’s.
It would’ve been our ‘Midway’ and ‘Dunkirk’ but no thousands civilian craft from Australia to evacuate us, combined.
It would take us, peak mass production peaked already falling, at least a year to replace the invasion shipping, tanks, planes, ehickes, artillery irreplaceable experienced hundreds thousands invasion and ship crews.
In fact those historians who do delve into it all agree, not just the blow to our salvation of enemy and our Allie’s and neutrals too.
The Japs had already agreed to our original capitulation terms under FDR, return all borders to sep 1939.
Instead of revenge they could agree to spare our men for peace.
Otherwise even our historians agreed had we lost Guadalcanal the US govt would collapse.
The Brit’s miraculously saved 300,000 but handing over all that equipment and supplies to the enemy even he didn’t destroy the picket as should have, brought down the British government.
No they weren’t quite obsolete yet. Men who insisted so like Yamamoto were already saying same submarines make carriers obsolete, not so.
Admire your comments around ty.😉
@@jamiejones7325I think I got the gist of what you’re trying to say but still had to connect the dots. I’ll oversimplify it; naval bombardments could only be effective if air superiority was already achieved and only against coastal targets which includes small islands
And coincidentally, it was the IJN themselves who sealed their own fate by launching an effective air raid against Pearl Harbor. The British air raid on Taranto paved the way, the INJ studied and magnified their tactics at Pearl Harbor
@@SpaceForceCooks well said!
@@SpaceForceCooks not quite. Weather. Fog machines. Risk.
Airborne attack entails more risk from flack even just accident take off landings, than sitting off out of range behind 12+ inches of armour.
If you read Gallopli through Rommel even Zhukov, he lost all his JS2 reinforcements for the month one day Kruegsmaribe supporting a pair of Tigers finding their sssembjy area.
Normandy Rommel blamed the RN for tossing is heaviest tanks and fortifications surviving thousands of B24, B17, Lancaster and Halifax heaviest bombers like Caen.
Canadians and Brit’s found the moon like cratering ended up favouring the defenders more.
And this from the guy strafed in his own staff car.
Right through Korea, if you read our history, if not for both the Cdn and Aussies rearguard sacrifice, Brit’s surprise amphibious landing with Churchill tanks the North too confident no tanks could not breach the sea wall climb steep mountains, and USN naval gun fire day AND night, we would’ve riuted and picket surrendered before Mac could create 2nd front landing barging lines opposite Inchon.
Today airforce and navy have bunker busters. But like you, save the new rail gun battleship, carriers are like mobile England’s anymore able to extend our air power forcing China to build thousands of warplanes for their plan Taiwan to Korea and Japan.
And Russia that super nuke torpedo counter to our carrier groups.
Constant competitions.
A ‘toxic masculinity’ word feminism has against official school policy today to ban/discourage, “competition.”🤯