Gus Gould's editorial to David Gallop regarding the Melbourne Storm Salary Scandel
Вставка
- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Phil Gould laying down hard cold facts to David Gallop regarding the Melbourne Storm NRL Rugby League Football club salary cap scandel.
Gus delivers a power message regarding the players who played for Melbourne, and the fact that no good talent was bought, it was all built from within the club.
As Gus says "When you are the best in the world, you deserve a pay rise"
Wow, Gus nailed Gallop.
i admire Melbourne Storm for their youth set up, thei academy has produced some top class players
@@patorr69 Everyone has cheated including the Brisbane Broncos.
I agree with both and there should be a compromise where if you debut a player you forever get that player on some sought of "salary cap discount" where say 20% of that players salary is not included in the salary cap. Also they need to add a "marque player" system where 1 or 2 players per club are completely immune from the cap.
I think what they should do with the Salary Cap is:
For homegrown talent: Something like 25% of their salary is recorded in the Cap.
For loyal players, only 50% is recorded on the Cap.
The only time I’ve ever agreed with Gus on anything
I respect the fact that Gus could have just thrown Melbourne under the bus, their key players were all QLDers who became superstars but he put any personal bias aside and came out and spoke cold hard facts!
Im on both sides. I agree with Gould, melbourne deserve to keep the players they developed from kids - The NRL needs to bring in some sort of loyalty system for players who play however many years at one club. But i also agree with Gallop - he has a really tough job.The cap should be raised but the cap is fair - if there was no cap teams such as Cronulla,Cowboys etc wouldnt be able to compete with teams such as Melbourne,Brisbane,Roosters,Souths
phil gould hit the nail on the head there
funniest line vossy- "David we appreciate your time with us this morning Im sure that Thursday bought you no joy whatsoever".
2020 Premiers again. Win with all the players that other clubs don't think can make it in the NRL and juniors still learning! Plus the whole team living and playing away from their homes and families for months.
You see so many players leave clubs, whether they are youngsters who cannot be kept because otherwise their clubs would go over the cap, and then go to another side who reap the rewards of all the hard work that was done by the players previous club to make the said players into the stars that they are (for example, Thurston leaving the Bulldogs, and within two years cements his place as Australias Number 7).
As of Apr 2017 Still top of the ladder!!!
J Rolf 2019 and still top of the ladder
@@patorr69 Lol yeah benefitting from something that happened 7-9 years earlier. Just admit you hate Melbourne for whatever dumb reason you have.
gus killed it!
you can understand both arguments, i think phil gould's idea is a bit too far and i think david gallop's is too little. we need something in between. just raise the salary cap by like 2 million
They shouldn't of been stripped of all points that season. Should've just stripped like 12 off
@@lukeharkin7 It was right at the beginning of the 2010 season, they basically left Mel with nothing to play for, fine strip the premierships but leaving them nothing to play for was horrible.
@HTID4eternity Gus doesn't support Melbourne - he just really, really, really HATES the salary cap. He's been going on about it for years.
Well of course the raiders cheated the salary cap by more than Storm without loosing premiership or points and their team of the 90’s much heralded.
David Gallop a total liar and got caught out by Gus.
Gallup is totally bereft of any ideas! Take the emotion from the Storm (there have been 69 prior breaches of the salary cap), Gallup's (non) answer to Gould's question: "How do we stop this from happening again?" Would have brought a tear of admiration to the eye of any politician. Gallup should do the honourable thing and hand the stewardship of the game over to somebody that understands its roots and cares about its longevity and vitality.
If the Roosters, Raiders, Tigers what ever team... did what Melbourne did they would have dominated every decade, yet had to say see ya later to many a young player who went through the best systems. Since the Storms 2nd year they have been a force although Gus Gould has a great argument, Gallop threw it in its place, it was done outside the rules.
wetherman21 21 the roosters are doing it right now. They just haven’t been caught yet and their roster is proof of that. There is no way they are retaining the superstars they have and spending near on a million for players like Cronk to sell them the storm playbook all the while being under the cap. Their will be some form of independent payments or investments to the players as none of them will take chump change when they know they’re worth more. As a billionaire businessman Nick Politis knows the ins and out of business especially the financial side and I guarantee he’s exploiting multiple loopholes to throw the NRL off the scent.
david gallop is an easy target - gould like the rest of us could not come up with a fairer or more workable resolve so he blames gallop. its very easy to point out trash in a rubbish tip, gould does it emotively and sucks alot of folk in (it's what makes good tv). but he lacks the ability to be objective, he's a great motivator, he likes to talk and believes in what he says. gus can't see past emotion and often goes looking for it. gallop is direct, doesn't pretend and copes well under stress
Listen to Gus, now he is working for Laundy and having a good old poach of the panthers who developed and built a great team.
2 Premierships later
1 more Grand Final appearance this weekend.
4th highest membership 25,000
Go the STORM
What do all you Sydney City Slickers have to say now ?
We RUN NRL
#MRL
And how many Victorian juniors are in this great team? You got smashed in the GF btw. Enjoy the last dregs of Smith's career. Once he's gone Bellamy will get exposed as the fraud he is and those memberships will drop off like flies as all your bandwagoners will go back to watching their AFL.
Tom tonka and I bet when Cronk left for the roosters you said we’d fall out of the top 4. We finished 2nd. Then when Slater retired I bet you said the same thing again and guess what? We finished 1st. Forget finals as any team can lose at any time, we have proven that we have the best player development program in the league. We’ve taken 2 rejects from the west tigers Josh Addo-Carr and Ryan Papenhuyzen and turned them into leading superstars. Addo-Carr has the left wing position locked in for NSW for the next 5+ years and Ryan Papenhuyzen has gone from a nobody to potentially challenging James Tedesco for the NSW no.1 jersey in the next 1-2 years. So you’ve just made yourself look like an idiot with your above comments. And when Smith goes we have a wrecking ball in Brandon Smith ready to take his place and he’s already dominating out of position.
@@tomtonka1915 This comment didnt age well..
Cameron Smith , Cooper Cronk , Billy Slater , Greg Inglis , Adam Blair , Israel Folau , Matt King and Will Chambers all came from Norths Devils , a club in Brisbane. They were Melbourne Storm's feeder club it's not like the Melbourne Storm developed them shut up Gould .
You sir are a moron. Northern Devils are Melbourne Storms feeder club. This means the Storm provide this club with adequate finance to have top facilities and coaches in return of producing great players. Without Melbourne providing this help, these players wouldn't of been produced.
...thats what i said . Northern Devils are Melbourne Storms feeder club.Oh ok none of these players would have made first grade without the Melbourne Storm ... that's a good one.
Tom tonka the storm Moulder them into the players they are today. If they went to other NRL clubs they wouldn't be half the players they're today. Steve turner said the other day on fox sports how former storm players miss the culture down there. Which proves why the storm are the ultimate club. Craig Bellamy not only gets the best out of his players but recruits unwanted and discarded players and transform them into solid performing team players.
@109977207424511234705
While that may be true, it is the nature of the beast. Some clubs produce their own talent while others poach. My own club the broncos loses alot of our good juniors because of the salary cap and others come with the chequebook. Other clubs are always benefitting from our hard work. Just in the last year or 2 we lose Jake Granville, Matt Parcell, Ashley Taylor, Jayden Nikorima and others I can't think of right now. Hell if we kept Granville we probably win last year coz NQ don't have a hooker lol. Panthers, Storm and Brisbane do it best when it comes to developing players but it's a better comp that it gets spread around a bit otherwise those 3 teams just win it every year.
Which is fine, but you can't cheat to keep them like the Storm did. Broncs lose players all the time they 100% developed and would have loved to have kept(right now Ashley Taylor comes to mind). Point is it's not like they were 100% developed in Melbourne.
@Sportymale You nailed it right there man! While Demetriou is a bit of a capatilist, he knows how to sell the game and takes AFL another light year ahead with a massive TV rights deal which will probably see more League players get poached!
Even Super 15's and Super League are laughing at us at the moment. Time to hang up the boots Gallop!
Wow.. it must have been difficult to spot a tallent like Inglis when he was 16.. Storm just buy them in time..
Salary cap is necesary to have the most interesting competition in the world that is the NRL. Anyone can win. That's the beauty. Look no further than Super League where you can just write off half the league at the begining of the season.
Um, that's a dumb comment mate. If its so easy to spot a talent like GI, why didn't the other clubs do it? And not every kid with talent becomes a once in a generation superstar, Melbourne just happened to get about 4 or 5 of them through the space of a few years at Norths in the QRL.
Never knew Gussy said this on behalf of my club! Well said 👏🏻
Then you have the players who want just one more season in the game before they retire, but are released by clubs because they have brought through a younger replacement to take the position of the older player, and therefore dumping him on the proverbial Rugby League Scrapheap.
2020 BABAYYY ⚡💜⚡💜⚡💜⚡💜⚡💜
WHO'S NUMBER 1 NOW ?
@TheJamesJosh
I never ever said the salary cap should be removed. What I am saying is that the salary cap should do the following - just as it does in the AFL. Reward club loyalty, protect players that the club has developed and finally as I said to you before (Not that I think you actually read responses) is implement salary cap concessions for clubs out of the traditional heartland. Look at how the AFL have treated the interstate clubs in the AFL, and look at how the AFL is taking over.
That Gallop is a goose he penalized everyone except for the main perpetrators 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Best point Gus has ever made
Well said Gus. There is not a very good breeding ground for League in Melbourne as it is an AFL dominated. So they get these kids form interstate with potential and turn them into superstars! That should be rewarded, but instead Gallop and co make it impossible to hang onto them even though you have invested years on moulding them into the best in the business! The salary cap just doesn't work... Back to the drawing board!
How true. We are losing players because of the sh!t salary cap. As he said. It's not evening out talent, it is thinning out talent.
@hea0006
The AFL has a salary cap, too. For the little it's helping Richmond atm.
So if you have good players other clubs should be able to take them away from you? Fu k that, develop your own talent
I'm a Dragons fan and we've had to let players go that we've developed from Junior level. In fact we got fined on salary cap issues because so many of our juniors had been picked for Origin or Tests so they now had a higher base level.
It's not about the salary cap. The cap isn't the greatest but it does make the competition even. We don't have teams like Richmond in the AFL that gets thumped each week.
The rules are put in place and Storm broke them. It's not great but it's the facts
I really fucking hate Gus Gould, but i do respect the passion he has for the game.
Fuck Gus sounds like a broken record
The salary cap is the salary cap, Guss. Shut up.
@Sportymale
what then? sack the salary cap?
PLEASE tell me what you would do if you were in daves job. please. right this second
Celebrate hard Storm salary cap or not, it was well deserved. The only team that seemed to get busted for cap spacing due to the hatred for Melbourne's Greatness. They definitely were not the only team in on this. They were just the only team to keep that information on the premises whilst others invested in paper shredders to get rid of the evidence 😂 NRL Front Office, Get A Dog Up Ya!!
@seedyrom247
Hi mate, is it possible for you to send me this also.
Live in the UK but try to keep up with the NRL. I have the Thursday Footy Shows either side of this Sunday Footy Show, but have been so far unabvle to find somewhere to get this epsiode from
I got nothing but respect for Gould. Why didn't they strip Manly's 1978 premiership that was won by qualifying by a 7 tackle in the semi? Why not strip St George's 1963 one since they had a cheating referee on their side? He did this and was surprised when fans booed him during the 2011 minor premiership presentation? Sheese. You get rid of Storm and you have no right to be called the 'national' rugby league.Fucking Gallop spent all his time saying how much bigger league was getting and how it could be the national sport soon. Now he's at wogball and he's claiming the A-League will take over after years spent downplaying soccers popularity to league. If you really believe that, then play it when it's supposed to be played in the winter, not in the summer where it has no other sports to compete with (the NBL is on life support and Cricket is not played on a regular basis). You know it'd get canned in attendances and ratings
Say what you will, Gallop's the boss - the boss makes tough decisions. The rest make emotional plea's to woo the fans and do fuk all
Gus is right
David Gallop just doesn't understand
gus is passionate... but bit unfair here... melbourne didnt play be the rules... they grossly cheated... therefore they must be punished... when GI made his first grade debut is irrelevant... to spiel emotives like gus did was unfair... and what he is essentially saying the whole time is a criticism of the salary cap, although it doesnt sound like he knows it...im in favour of the cap but maybe some adjustments could be made esp regarding talent that has been brought thru the club from jnr level
I usually don't mind Gus, but here he was a joke. Gallop handled himself very well. Kudos Dave for having the balls!
Gallop the tool!!!! He was a Big Fail!!!
gus 1 - gallop 0
Gus said it....Partly.
Gus well knows the higher the accolades the higher the salary demanded by a player. h ah ah ahtchuFitler.......
His Panthers had to part with players.....h ah ah ahtchu Fittler...... over the years because their super rich club always talked "Development."
Player Development from Juniors...Why Because they cost sweet fuck all to put on the park.
Sour grapes probably because Panthers NEVER spent their Clubs riches on great Players. h ah ah ahtchu Fittler
Lets not forget that great Panthers Junior, the one Gus helped go over to The Roosters...Who was that??
Gus once said the Polynesians, Maoris etc were to slow and had no ticker, would never make it in the NRL they aren't disciplined, not fit enough he said.......Fuck the Panthers have off loaded a few over the years.....and Fuck what did Gus just say about Bill Slaters Shoulder charge.....Let him off, Let him off.......No fucking Integrity at all......I mean shit it's all about Integrity isn't it!!
Great! Great BIG cheats. Hope the taxman gets them all. Phil Gould obviously spent too much time with his head up somone's behind when playing scrum half. Pity the AFL didn't have the guts to hand similar penalties a few years ago.
HAHAHA god i love gus gould
gould, if melbourne breaks the salary and they dont punish them, then what are other clubs gonna do? of course there gonna break the salary cap aswell. then the competition is going to go haywire.
3 teams have been busted since. Punishment is clearly not a deterrent.
I cant stand Gus Gould..everything he says is the "be all and end all". The way he is defending the salary cap breach a.k.a cheating.(You may not like the rules..but it for everyone, break it and you get punished), this makes me wonder if Gould has anything to worry about with the Roosters. Now the storm have aready played a handful of games this year using a unfair player roster based on the salary cap...so I think it is fair to all remaining teams, Storm be deducted there points!!!
They basically scrapped their entire season when it started. That was stupid.
@mskux19 I believe Manly are number 1 at the moment....
I don’t give a fuck They were 6 1/2 million dollars over the salary cap they are cheaters and that’s it sorry What about all the other clubs that have to let go of players
No they werent. They were 1.7M above the cap over 5 years.
yeah, maybe they do deserve a pay-rise. but not if it means that they have to pay them illegally and then screw over the entire competition. i bet there are heaps of club like the storm who have grown talent, the only difference is, the other clubs had the integrity to send them away cos they didn't want to cheat. Bottom Line- Melbourne cheated, and as a result they have just made the last 4/5 years of the NRL a complete waste of time
Storm clearly breached the salary cap,deserved the punishment from Gallop
hh
Gus Gould can ramble on all he wants , the Storm cheated , end of story .
Gallop had to leave .. Its a dying sport that brought him down as a CEO like the last and now the latest CEO blunder just moronic. All the other shit he had to deal with too the moronic players and other thugs i mean itnever ended for him you cant save it now ...