I have to comment after watching this video. The nostalgia I get from watching a video from a time period I did not even exist in is so significant I cannot help myself but admire it. The RARE lash up of 2 F40PH's 1 F59PHI and a P42-DC in an OLD livery, is stunning. The WIG WAG CROSSING SIGNAL at 1:06:00 was AWESOME to watch in operation, all the mechanical railroad crossing bells and old railroad crossing equipment, once entering Ventura county around the 50:00 mark. You can notice MULTIPLE Raco and Griswold gate mechanisms, incandescent lights, and even mechanical bells popping up on crossing after crossing. As this corridor has rapidly modernized into 2021 and almost all of these Railroad Crossings, track improvements, and bridges have been made or added. These are some sights you will never see again. - And this does not even include all the old Southern Pacific Locomotives you see, the OLD Metrolink phase 1 Cab cars with K5LA's AND some still having whistles if you look carefully on the top. I can't help myself, this video is stunning and thankfully immortalizes a time of railroading I desperately wish I lived to see. Please give this video a FULL watch. Do not skip around. I loved it. Amazing work, AMAZING editing. Top Notch stuff 100/100
1:08:26 is (I think) the Miramar Inn where we spent our wedding night 40 years ago. Being awakened by trains during the night was an added part of the memory. I only wish I could identify Santa Claus Lane in the video. I agree: the wig wags are the stars of the show.
I used to run this train on the Coast before Amtrak took over in 1986. To and from LAUPT and San Luis Obispo. Great footage brings back great memories of the greatest run ever. The Valley Ventura dispatcher was Jim Gruledge. It was filmed when freight still ran on the Coast. Now days The only freight now is the Gemco to Guadalupe local.
Was seeing those Type G triangular signals, and it put me in mind of that 1979 movie: Disaster on the Coastliner, where they showed those kind of signals along the California Coastal line with Amtrak Trains. But back then, SP had H2 Searchlights. In the 90's, art became reality, when UP put the newer signals in.
I'm rewatching this video and noting changes to the territory. It's amazing how much has changed and how much hasn't. 45:55: Field of Onions on one side, lemons on the other. These are now Marijuana/hemp fields on both sides lol. And the speed is 15.. (Make that 79, but the perpetual crossing orders make that hard to accomplish). I saw you uploaded another video recently and had to swing through your channel RR. Hope your retirement is treating you well!
Actually I am not retired Yet! The engineer Charlie was the one who retired shortly after the video was shot, Its a rotten shame that FRA regulations no longer allow personal recording devices in locomotives and cab-cars, at the very least they should be allowed to record the trip so if there's a trespasser strike or other incident the engineer and railroad would be better protected against lawsuits
@ 23:10, more or less, is where the MetroLink train hit the UP freight head-on in 2008. The Metrolink train ran a red signal at the point where this train merged back onto the main after letting the freight go by. Also, the first tunnel is right next to the location of the former Spann Movie Ranch. The Manson Family lived there in the late 1960's. And, one more bit of trivia, that same tunnel is featured at the very end of the Hitchcock movie "North by Northwest." Some SoCal railroad trivia for you.
Train ahead (same train they met at DT Santa Barbara) was waiting for east bound to clear then proceed on single train main, #14 was just flagging up behind it, then they would follow once the block was clear
Good clip, particularly liked the GE "thrash" from the train view.What was going on at the level crossing then a bit later where the dispatcher seemed a bit confused as to what train was which (not that the quickfire exchanges are all that easy to understand, at least to this British observer!)?Hopefully this route will make an appearance in the Run8 simulator at some stage...
Image these days that their is a P42DC leading with an F59PHI behind it and an ALC-42 charger locomotive behind the F59PHI and then another P42DC behind the ALC-42 locomotive
2 F40PHs in Phase 3, a P42 also in Phase 3, and an F59PHI in California Colors. The only thing that could make this train more awesome is if a Dash 9 Warbonnet was up there.
At the time the Pacific Surfliners layover was east of the Santa Barbara depot off the old Pacific Block (now the Siding) So they would line themselves onto the Pacific Block do their station work then back to the layover track, #14 was using the Mission Block (now Main track) (Today its all CTC and the layover is at Goleta)
iam confused part of the vid is with an f40 leading with the p42 3rd out and some of the vid is of the p42 leading is this the same train but different times and also what was the engine number of the p42 btw. awesome vid
Closest I have is lots of J-pegs of different trips between LA and Alpine Tx (late 90's thru the 2000's) mostly during the UP meltdown, will post them here as a video slide show shortly
@@radioroger1683 Thanks for the upload. I've always wanted to see pictures of the old Ramona Blvd and Cypress Ave railroad crossings in El Monte along with old searchlight signals in the UP Sunset route.
I handed the camera to the head end crew and they gave it back to me after, today they would jail you and the crew if they even thought of setting up a camera
@@radioroger1683 I cannot find it, I would like to see the video as I am Interested of the portion between Glendale and burbank, especially the unbuilt Costco and closed Goodwin avenue crossing
Hey Radio Roger, can you tell me the name of the Engineer in this video? As a young Railfan (about 18+ years ago, I remember always riding with the #14 from LAUPT to Glendal station in the cab... My fondest memories were the Genesis cab rides... (Now 28 years old and work for the German Railroad, Deutsche Bahn in Duisburg, Germany! :) )
@@radioroger1683 Makes more sense now. Seemed very odd for 4 locos anyway, but for one of them to be an F59PH on a long-haul route was very surprising to see.
Perhaps the next edit could reduce the number of shots along the train and long tunnel travel to include more scenery. Otherwise, I liked the video. Thanks for posting.
Next time you see Tommy ask him about the visit to the 'Nudist Camp' in the Cajon Pass area along with Bill Milligan from Hobart ! But you're right. He was a 'Noteable' character. Changing subjects, Tommy had some experience in the movie industry as well as a hog head with ATSF. He's probably deceased by now. Well, most of the people from ATSF I worked with are deceased. I'm next. 37 years ATSF/BNSF. Retired 2015. You can look it up but I remember when the ATSF & the SP tried to merge and they started painted our locomotives with SP Santa Fe. Deal fell through.
@@wes5150. - Tommy I hear is retired in the Sierras and was volunteering at one of the steam RRs, If you search old Huell Howser videos they interview Tommy
@@wes5150. - I have not heard from TJ for many years, Charlie Creager was the engineer in both videos, FYI I was thrown off FB the beginning of the year and they refused to tell me why.
Now a days its CWR, back when this video was shot it was jointed (you can hear the clickty Clack) , hard to believe they ran heavy steam at much higher speeds on jointed
Cam-Corders back then were only 2 hour loads, The engine shots were the discretion of the head-end crew (when they had time) Today's digital cameras can record far longer with the right size memory (BUT! no images from the headend)
Why the hell were they allowed to get THAT close to another northbound train on the same track? what the hell was the dispatcher on when he told the engineer to go past the red signal that CLEARLY told him not to move. did they seriously need 6 engines? Ironically today's Union Pacific is an off shoot of Southern Pacific. Todays Union Pacific Railroad (Mark II) was created through the merger of the UP into Southern Pacific Transportation Company. SP didn't merge into UP. UP merged into SP. However after the merger the Parent company was changed to Union Pacific Corporation. Currently the 4th Version of the Union Pacific name.
The dispatcher controls the railroad, not the signals. Signals only tell you what route you're taking and how fast you can go. The dispatcher can, ultimately, authorize a train past a stop signal and stack it in with another train if it's the best way to dispatch them.
country is broke cause of white tyrannical rule for foreign lands Totally useless as a human race and trumps no different I believe in ME and that's all i can count on anymore
right trumps always tweeting which is asinine trumps always saying stock market is booming right 4 his shares and his sons r raking it in from theyre wheeling n dealing on the trades in NY so this whole scenario sucks and were suffering while trump goes 2 china india making the foreign interests for them here in usa rich so where is MAGA i sure havnt seen it
I have to comment after watching this video. The nostalgia I get from watching a video from a time period I did not even exist in is so significant I cannot help myself but admire it. The RARE lash up of 2 F40PH's 1 F59PHI and a P42-DC in an OLD livery, is stunning. The WIG WAG CROSSING SIGNAL at 1:06:00 was AWESOME to watch in operation, all the mechanical railroad crossing bells and old railroad crossing equipment, once entering Ventura county around the 50:00 mark. You can notice MULTIPLE Raco and Griswold gate mechanisms, incandescent lights, and even mechanical bells popping up on crossing after crossing. As this corridor has rapidly modernized into 2021 and almost all of these Railroad Crossings, track improvements, and bridges have been made or added. These are some sights you will never see again.
- And this does not even include all the old Southern Pacific Locomotives you see, the OLD Metrolink phase 1 Cab cars with K5LA's AND some still having whistles if you look carefully on the top. I can't help myself, this video is stunning and thankfully immortalizes a time of railroading I desperately wish I lived to see.
Please give this video a FULL watch. Do not skip around. I loved it. Amazing work, AMAZING editing. Top Notch stuff 100/100
1:08:26 is (I think) the Miramar Inn where we spent our wedding night 40 years ago. Being awakened by trains during the night was an added part of the memory. I only wish I could identify Santa Claus Lane in the video. I agree: the wig wags are the stars of the show.
I didn't even know there were wig wags around and operational that late, much less on a main line!
1:05:30 also has a wig wag
I used to run this train on the Coast before Amtrak took over in 1986. To and from LAUPT and San Luis Obispo. Great footage brings back great memories of the greatest run ever. The Valley Ventura dispatcher was Jim Gruledge. It was filmed when freight still ran on the Coast. Now days The only freight now is the Gemco to Guadalupe local.
Out of all those Emd's the GE was making the most noise.
Awesome video, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Lovin that fresh GE chug
I lived in Moorpark about the time this was filmed. Great memories!
Was seeing those Type G triangular signals, and it put me in mind of that 1979 movie: Disaster on the Coastliner, where they showed those kind of signals along the California Coastal line with Amtrak Trains. But back then, SP had H2 Searchlights. In the 90's, art became reality, when UP put the newer signals in.
Wow! Everything on The Former SP Coastline has been Changed over The Past couple of years.
I'm rewatching this video and noting changes to the territory. It's amazing how much has changed and how much hasn't.
45:55: Field of Onions on one side, lemons on the other. These are now Marijuana/hemp fields on both sides lol. And the speed is 15.. (Make that 79, but the perpetual crossing orders make that hard to accomplish).
I saw you uploaded another video recently and had to swing through your channel RR. Hope your retirement is treating you well!
Actually I am not retired Yet! The engineer Charlie was the one who retired shortly after the video was shot, Its a rotten shame that FRA regulations no longer allow personal recording devices in locomotives and cab-cars, at the very least they should be allowed to record the trip so if there's a trespasser strike or other incident the engineer and railroad would be better protected against lawsuits
@ 23:10, more or less, is where the MetroLink train hit the UP freight head-on in 2008. The Metrolink train ran a red signal at the point where this train merged back onto the main after letting the freight go by. Also, the first tunnel is right next to the location of the former Spann Movie Ranch. The Manson Family lived there in the late 1960's. And, one more bit of trivia, that same tunnel is featured at the very end of the Hitchcock movie "North by Northwest." Some SoCal railroad trivia for you.
moonspots01 you don't have to capitalize link you only capitalize metro so it has to be like this "Metrolink"
cool facts
@@altchannel6120 Thx!
From 1:08:50 to 1:09:07 is the section thru the Monticeto mud slide zone, the crossing is Olive Mill Road
Really makes me wish that one could "window hang" on Amtrak today. What I would pay to be able to do that.
What's going on with the face to face at 19:00 ? Two on the same main so close is unusual no?
Train ahead (same train they met at DT Santa Barbara) was waiting for east bound to clear then proceed on single train main, #14 was just flagging up behind it, then they would follow once the block was clear
56:16 that train trestle over the 101 in Ventura I drove under that many times never knew it was a train bridge
Another view of that bridge (while I was working at the Scottish Irish Seaside Highland Games) ua-cam.com/video/FKCkEMCfBak/v-deo.html
Sadly the area to the west is all burned out due to the "Thomas" fire
Memories of running AMTK 7 & 8 on the High Line in Montana. The 350’s and 360’s were fun to run at high speed…
Good clip, particularly liked the GE "thrash" from the train view.What was going on at the level crossing then a bit later where the dispatcher seemed a bit confused as to what train was which (not that the quickfire exchanges are all that easy to understand, at least to this British observer!)?Hopefully this route will make an appearance in the Run8 simulator at some stage...
Can't believe that this video recorded almost 20 years ago.
More than 25 years ago now.
The engineer is a nut job !
Image these days that their is a P42DC leading with an F59PHI behind it and an ALC-42 charger locomotive behind the F59PHI and then another P42DC behind the ALC-42 locomotive
Can you post the entire cab ride?
That was a great video and I thoroughly enjoyed it. 👍🚂
You see that crossing with the truss bridge an that tall building? That's the plaza, it's going near where I am rn just not the date im in
In Ventura?
2 F40PHs in Phase 3, a P42 also in Phase 3, and an F59PHI in California Colors. The only thing that could make this train more awesome is if a Dash 9 Warbonnet was up there.
What was up with that 'race' between the trains as they approached Santa Barbara?
At the time the Pacific Surfliners layover was east of the Santa Barbara depot off the old Pacific Block (now the Siding) So they would line themselves onto the Pacific Block do their station work then back to the layover track, #14 was using the Mission Block (now Main track) (Today its all CTC and the layover is at Goleta)
iam confused part of the vid is with an f40 leading with the p42 3rd out and some of the vid is of the p42 leading is this the same train but different times and also what was the engine number of the p42 btw. awesome vid
Was two different trips mixed together
Do you have any old 80s or 90s footage of the Amtrak Sunset Limited ride in Los Angeles?
Closest I have is lots of J-pegs of different trips between LA and Alpine Tx (late 90's thru the 2000's) mostly during the UP meltdown, will post them here as a video slide show shortly
@@radioroger1683 Thanks for the upload. I've always wanted to see pictures of the old Ramona Blvd and Cypress Ave railroad crossings in El Monte along with old searchlight signals in the UP Sunset route.
I can't believe you skipped over the part where you went by my house in Moopark !r
I handed the camera to the head end crew and they gave it back to me after, today they would jail you and the crew if they even thought of setting up a camera
Jail is where Criminals, Bank Robbers, and illegal People go, So The Police Would've Stopped The Train And Arrest The Train Crew And Him
Do you have the full cab ride of this Video at all?
Yes I just posted a cab-car ride between LA and Santa Barbara
@@radioroger1683 I cannot find it, I would like to see the video as I am Interested of the portion between Glendale and burbank, especially the unbuilt Costco and closed Goodwin avenue crossing
Hey Radio Roger, can you tell me the name of the Engineer in this video? As a young Railfan (about 18+ years ago, I remember always riding with the #14 from LAUPT to Glendal station in the cab... My fondest memories were the Genesis cab rides... (Now 28 years old and work for the German Railroad, Deutsche Bahn in Duisburg, Germany! :) )
I don't know his Name, But The Guy who shot the Video refers him as Mr Engineer.
Charlie Creager and I cant remember the trainee's name
Back in the day when railroads were cool
Trains havent change
I’m surprised there’s 4 locomotives on that train.usually it’s just 2.
two of the locos were to be removed at Oakland at the time LA was the closest heavy maintenance facility and 11 and 14 regularly shuttled locos.
@@radioroger1683 Makes more sense now. Seemed very odd for 4 locos anyway, but for one of them to be an F59PH on a long-haul route was very surprising to see.
Cool Train Radio Rodger 2:07
This was the line before Pacific Surfliner?
Yes Amfleets and Horizon cars
if you're from L.A. going to santa barbara, which side is the ocean view, Left or right?
PLS REPLY...THX
Red Lightning MG left
Left, you are going north with east on your right and west on your left where the Pacific ocean is.
Red Lightning MG Left Because The Pacific Ocean Is On The Left And The Right There's Nothing Except The Road
Perhaps the next edit could reduce the number of shots along the train and long tunnel travel to include more scenery. Otherwise, I liked the video. Thanks for posting.
I do believe the engineer is Tommy Johnson...
Next time you see Tommy ask him about the visit to the 'Nudist Camp' in the Cajon Pass area along with Bill Milligan from Hobart ! But you're right. He was a 'Noteable' character. Changing subjects, Tommy had some experience in the movie industry as well as a hog head with ATSF. He's probably deceased by now. Well, most of the people from ATSF I worked with are deceased. I'm next. 37 years ATSF/BNSF. Retired 2015. You can look it up but I remember when the ATSF & the SP tried to merge and they started painted our locomotives with SP Santa Fe. Deal fell through.
@@wes5150. - Tommy I hear is retired in the Sierras and was volunteering at one of the steam RRs, If you search old Huell Howser videos they interview Tommy
@@wes5150. - I have not heard from TJ for many years, Charlie Creager was the engineer in both videos, FYI I was thrown off FB the beginning of the year and they refused to tell me why.
@@radioroger1683 Thanks for the info. A lot of time has gone by and a lot of good memories.
@@radioroger1683 A vintage view of the 3rd District Dispatchers console: ua-cam.com/users/shortsqHPyummwyhU If the link doesn't work search:
That was fun!
did the reverse route last august but started in seattle
WHAT YEAR IS THIS VIDEO?
From my research 1997-98
Thanks! BETTER THAN WATCHING FORREST GUMP. 🧑🎤 🏁 👩💼👩🎓
It's hard to believe that (fast) passenger trains use these tracks! :(
Now a days its CWR, back when this video was shot it was jointed (you can hear the clickty Clack) , hard to believe they ran heavy steam at much higher speeds on jointed
You skipped the run through the trench between Moorpark and Saticoy. Thanks :D
Cam-Corders back then were only 2 hour loads, The engine shots were the discretion of the head-end crew (when they had time) Today's digital cameras can record far longer with the right size memory (BUT! no images from the headend)
Ah, the radio track warrant days
Actually it was DTC, then the UP changed to TWC, now the coast is CTC islands with some TWC
Still use TWC Track Warrents north of Elwood, but that is supposed to be changing soon.
24:54 Santa Susanna Tunnel
43:21---> couldn't wait for a passenger train to roll by...
Antelope Valley line!!
Southern Pacific oh god Soo good
7:58 231 OLS
One thing is for sure they call signals the wrong way out there. You're not supposed to say yellow over red etc.
Very few engineers would call signals the correct way, Gean Haffey (retired) always called them the correct way, Proceed-Approach-Restricted-Stop ect
56:43
1:05:36 - wig wag
Amtrak cdtx f59phi😮😨
Why the hell were they allowed to get THAT close to another northbound train on the same track? what the hell was the dispatcher on when he told the engineer to go past the red signal that CLEARLY told him not to move. did they seriously need 6 engines? Ironically today's Union Pacific is an off shoot of Southern Pacific. Todays Union Pacific Railroad (Mark II) was created through the merger of the UP into Southern Pacific Transportation Company. SP didn't merge into UP. UP merged into SP. However after the merger the Parent company was changed to Union Pacific Corporation. Currently the 4th Version of the Union Pacific name.
The dispatcher controls the railroad, not the signals. Signals only tell you what route you're taking and how fast you can go. The dispatcher can, ultimately, authorize a train past a stop signal and stack it in with another train if it's the best way to dispatch them.
maglev in china japan france and this old antiquated shit
True, but this country is broke, so its what they can get :)
country is broke cause of white tyrannical rule for foreign lands Totally useless as a human race and trumps no different I believe in ME and that's all i can count on anymore
Using my tax money to do it too! >:(
right trumps always tweeting which is asinine trumps always saying stock market is booming right 4 his shares and his sons r raking it in from theyre wheeling n dealing on the trades in NY so this whole scenario sucks and were suffering while trump goes 2 china india making the foreign interests for them here in usa rich so where is MAGA i sure havnt seen it