Hi, new subscriber here. Thank you for your series of videos on the Jackery and EcoFlow power stations. I have watched several content creators on this topic, and more often than not they really miss the greatest need of the greatest number of viewers by "explaining" the subject in terms that only geeks (no offense intended) can understand. I really appreciate that you explain the features of the power stations in practical language that us non-geeks can understand. So, thank you!! It is my "understanding" that fast charging has a detrimental effect on the life of batteries (i.e. cell phones). I assume the same issue applies to power station batteries given that Jackery and EcoFlow offer slower and faster re-charge options. I presume the slower re-charge rate is optimal for the batteries' longevity. I am someone who is highly motivated by fast re-charge speeds (which is why I just ordered the EcoFlow River 2). Now my questions: 1) Can you offer rules of thumb, practical considerations, for using the fast charge vs slow charge methods? 2) Are there higher safety risks in fast charging? 3) How much loss of battery longevity (or other issues) should I expect by only fast-charging the devices? 4) Should I never only fast-charge the power stations for reasons other than shortening the life of the battery? Thank you!
Thank you for your kind words. We try our best to explain things in less technical terms but, still try to keep the important context technical when appropriate. As far as your questions, fast charging of any device, whether a cell phone, laptop or portable power station, should be reserved for the occasions when time is of the essence to get as much power recharged in a shorter period of time. Two of the biggest factors of the health and longevity of modern batteries is age and heat. Fast recharging is just as damaging as pulling maximum power out of the device at full-load for an extended period of time. That is one reason to make sure you figure your intended use of the power station and determine if a smaller unit will still provide reserve power for emergencies. We’ve experienced issues ourselves fast-charging our EcoFlow Delta Mini at 400W that caused the unit to notify via the phone app that the unit was at 160 degrees F and that charging was temporarily suspended. Recharging and using the device in different environments can also cause overheating issues. Same holds true if you are storing or using the device in too cold of an environment. As we’ve seen on the news many times, electric vehicles lose much of their range in the cold and extreme heat, the same holds true for portable power stations. As battery technologies have improved the last few years, the issues with them have thankfully decreased. I would highly recommend only purchasing a unit with Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries, which are much more stable and able to handle the higher recharge rates and normally carry a much longer warranty from the manufacturer. As far as always recharging the device using fast-charging, my guess would be it would likely shorten the life expectancy of the unit but, should still be within the manufacturer specs of maintain at least 80% of the original capacity over 3,000 full discharge/recharge cycles. Other than keeping your eye on the device’s temperature while recharging I don’t think there should to too much concern to using fast-charging. With our EcoFlow Delta Pro we usually recharge at half it’s ability to fast-charge unless we know a storm is approaching and we want to get the unit as close to 100% as quick as possible.
@@LetsTalkTechToday Thank you for your thorough response. It was very helpful! Given what you shared, I am willing to take the shorter battery lifespan to have the fastest charging speeds. Now with better clarity, I realize that my concerns were safety, and damage to the battery that would cause it to perform poorly in daily use. Based on what you've written, those concerns are relieved. I already own a Jackery 300 V2 and supplement it with two 28000 mAH batteries to keep my USB devices charged. (I owned the power banks before the Jackery). I am now buying the Ecoflow River 2 to replace the two power banks and gain the faster recharging speeds . Time (and of course safety) are more important to me than ten years of life on a battery gained by slow charging. If I get half that usage because of fast charging, then at $169, which is what I paid for the River 2, then it would have paid for itself in convenience. At least I can stop fast charging the Jackery which I'd begun to do the last couple times I charged it. It was becoming a habit that I didn’t want to continue. Again, thanks again for your thoughtful and thorough response. I can now move forward with peace of mind. 😇
I’m not sure of their reason with not including a USB-C to USB-C cable with a vehicle accessory adapter plug that supports PD charging. I have what is necessary to purchase in the video description.
@@LetsTalkTechTodayi am a truck driver and i do not understand much of electronics, i saw what you had in description but i would highly appreciate if you made a video explaining how to charge that thing from car and how you put the cables. Thank you
Watch our video with recommendation how to charge a Jackery Explorer 300 Plus in a vehicle. ua-cam.com/video/U-axDfoomqc/v-deo.html
Hi, new subscriber here. Thank you for your series of videos on the Jackery and EcoFlow power stations. I have watched several content creators on this topic, and more often than not they really miss the greatest need of the greatest number of viewers by "explaining" the subject in terms that only geeks (no offense intended) can understand. I really appreciate that you explain the features of the power stations in practical language that us non-geeks can understand. So, thank you!!
It is my "understanding" that fast charging has a detrimental effect on the life of batteries (i.e. cell phones). I assume the same issue applies to power station batteries given that Jackery and EcoFlow offer slower and faster re-charge options. I presume the slower re-charge rate is optimal for the batteries' longevity. I am someone who is highly motivated by fast re-charge speeds (which is why I just ordered the EcoFlow River 2). Now my questions:
1) Can you offer rules of thumb, practical considerations, for using the fast charge vs slow charge methods?
2) Are there higher safety risks in fast charging?
3) How much loss of battery longevity (or other issues) should I expect by only fast-charging the devices?
4) Should I never only fast-charge the power stations for reasons other than shortening the life of the battery?
Thank you!
Thank you for your kind words. We try our best to explain things in less technical terms but, still try to keep the important context technical when appropriate. As far as your questions, fast charging of any device, whether a cell phone, laptop or portable power station, should be reserved for the occasions when time is of the essence to get as much power recharged in a shorter period of time. Two of the biggest factors of the health and longevity of modern batteries is age and heat. Fast recharging is just as damaging as pulling maximum power out of the device at full-load for an extended period of time. That is one reason to make sure you figure your intended use of the power station and determine if a smaller unit will still provide reserve power for emergencies. We’ve experienced issues ourselves fast-charging our EcoFlow Delta Mini at 400W that caused the unit to notify via the phone app that the unit was at 160 degrees F and that charging was temporarily suspended. Recharging and using the device in different environments can also cause overheating issues. Same holds true if you are storing or using the device in too cold of an environment. As we’ve seen on the news many times, electric vehicles lose much of their range in the cold and extreme heat, the same holds true for portable power stations. As battery technologies have improved the last few years, the issues with them have thankfully decreased. I would highly recommend only purchasing a unit with Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries, which are much more stable and able to handle the higher recharge rates and normally carry a much longer warranty from the manufacturer. As far as always recharging the device using fast-charging, my guess would be it would likely shorten the life expectancy of the unit but, should still be within the manufacturer specs of maintain at least 80% of the original capacity over 3,000 full discharge/recharge cycles. Other than keeping your eye on the device’s temperature while recharging I don’t think there should to too much concern to using fast-charging. With our EcoFlow Delta Pro we usually recharge at half it’s ability to fast-charge unless we know a storm is approaching and we want to get the unit as close to 100% as quick as possible.
@@LetsTalkTechToday Thank you for your thorough response. It was very helpful! Given what you shared, I am willing to take the shorter battery lifespan to have the fastest charging speeds. Now with better clarity, I realize that my concerns were safety, and damage to the battery that would cause it to perform poorly in daily use. Based on what you've written, those concerns are relieved.
I already own a Jackery 300 V2 and supplement it with two 28000 mAH batteries to keep my USB devices charged. (I owned the power banks before the Jackery). I am now buying the Ecoflow River 2 to replace the two power banks and gain the faster recharging speeds . Time (and of course safety) are more important to me than ten years of life on a battery gained by slow charging. If I get half that usage because of fast charging, then at $169, which is what I paid for the River 2, then it would have paid for itself in convenience. At least I can stop fast charging the Jackery which I'd begun to do the last couple times I charged it. It was becoming a habit that I didn’t want to continue.
Again, thanks again for your thoughtful and thorough response. I can now move forward with peace of mind. 😇
Where did you get the plug for the river 2 car port?
It came in the box with the device. When we ordered the device the MC4 to XT60i came as a free item
that shipped separately.
Why does jackery 300 plus doesn’t come with a car charger?
I’m not sure of their reason with not including a USB-C to USB-C cable with a vehicle accessory adapter plug that supports PD charging. I have what is necessary to purchase in the video description.
@@LetsTalkTechTodayi am a truck driver and i do not understand much of electronics, i saw what you had in description but i would highly appreciate if you made a video explaining how to charge that thing from car and how you put the cables. Thank you
Please find our new video with recommendations how to charge in a vehicle. ua-cam.com/video/U-axDfoomqc/v-deo.html
My 3 year old jackery is now a paperweight. It’s dead as a doornail, not even a display. Hard reset didn’t help either.
Which one do you own? Did you have it stored for a prolonged period?