The scene of them pressuring Charles Robinson to the point of tears into giving up his cherished Flair robe that he wanted to be buried in was beyond awkward
@@chriskay1449 stop it. You know that it does seem kind of gay. Know the definition of the words you are using. I'm going to guess that you are gay. Gay people are quick to call someone a homophobe.
The Jungle robe is truly one of a kind, it was different than any of the others that flair wore, and my guess long term will be the most valuable. They did little Naitch dirty.
Jim is exactly right. I used to like wrestling and haven't been able to stomach the product of the last 15 years. I only want to hear about the people I know and remember.
In this case it's really not specifically "the classic stuff" it's flair. I get what you meant and where you were going but no one on the show so far has be what Flair is. The André episode has been the closest but more people are alive now who know who and what Flair was over André. If the André episode came out 10 years ago, it's be a different story.
I thought it couldn't get better than Sonny Ono last week having an auction for the Giant Machine mask, but then the absolute legend who had the black butterfly robe did what they did. More people should try to fleece the fed.
When i was 13 rip hawk tought me how to amateur wrestle in Hereford TX. I would spend hours looking at all of his pictures and magazines. Crazy hearing that name. Rip ran me harder than anyone but i was glad to do so every night.
Kiniski ref'ed a NWA title match here in St. Louis between Race and David Von Erich. he was so bad I honestly thought as a kid live that people would riot the Kiel Auditorium.
Flair is definitely the most sampled wrestler in hip-hop history. And Corny describing the wrestler's proclivity for jewelry sounds exactly like rappers/pro athletes 🤣🤣
The guy who had the robe was no wrestling fan he probably heard about the search and figured he would rake whoever came for it over the coals. Besides they just wanted it because Sheri wore it with nothing on lol.
Discussing the problems with the Starrcade 83 main event. There was one problem. The referee. Gene not only messed up the finish, but he was constantly in the way, so their timing got messed up because they had to keep looking over their shoulders to where Gene was.. Harley and Ric had matches on TV leading up to this that were better and much more fluid and the only two differences are the cage (which should not have been a problem for these two) and the Ref.
For Bruiser Brody's funeral service in Japan, Brody was pictured wearing All Japan's Capital sports wear. A friend of mine purchased one of the shirts Brody wore directly from Brody's widow Barbara Goodish.
Before they tore down the Sportatorium in Dallas, Kevin Von Erich went there because he wanted the WCCW ring but it was gone. How about going looking for that?
I'm surprised that Jim didn't know hip hop embraced Flair, he replaced Trump in a lot of ways as the status symbol of opulence. Add in the strut and the wooo to copy next thing you know he's an icon all over again
The current batch in the culture are definitely doing a better job representing the glory days of wrestling than the actual company itself is. That whole Buffalo scene right now.
They didn't replace Trump, they were both used side by side long before Trump ran for president. It's based off location. Southern rap used Ric Flair because he's damn near synonymous with the south due to him primarily working there. Trump was the choice for NY and west coast rappers. They both eventually bled over in to all regions of rap.
@@philipclarke9696 Their adopted so Sports wise they don't have his real Genes or any Mother or Father. Don't know if you kids actually think 🤔 they are blood Nope....
@bigkev3184 Tamina was born in January of 1978 in Seattle when Jimmy was working for Don Owens in the Pacific Northwest territory.You kids need to do your homework.Unless, you have inside information that Tamina is adopted, which she isn’t.
It was a really good episode with Flair, but that lost bank bag story has to be Tully. Tully would be holding that bank bag while he was doing promos in Mid-Atlantic while he was NWA TV Champion. Tully had the money and all the jewelry back in 1984, I bet it he's the one who lost it.
Conrad i believe is the caretaker for all of ric's memorabillia. There are probably a few items like the original big gold belt that he will not part with because it may not be entirely his to part with.
DOES ANYONE ELSE KNOW WHO OWNS AN AUTHENTIC RIC FLAIR ROBE?....There has to be at least 1 or 2 wrestlers who have one...not just Charles Lil Naitch and Darius Ruker
Rich Rosenberg is from my hometown and was a substitute teacher. It was like a blind person teaching how to read sign language. Guy was weird. I always took em as a pedo
@@ajjjay9583 Damn, you're serious. Conrad owns a fairly successful mortgage brokerage and is the co-host of some of the biggest wrestling podcasts out there (Bruce Prichard, Arn Anderson, Jeff Jarrett, Eric Bischoff, Jim Ross, etc..).
@@zlinedavid oh I know about that stuff , I didn’t know he did that well, the dude kept raising the price on the robe and Conrad was like whatever here’s 60 thousand, lol.
@@MatsThyWit I need to listen again because the way I took the question was a wrestler having sons and daughters and the daughter was better than the sons.
I would have loved one of the classic All Japan Jumpsuits that the Young Boys wear, or authentic Ribera Steakhouse Jacket, things that they just don't make any longer.
seems like they could've just sued for it tbh and easily won. there's no finders keepers law in tn; it's misplaced property, and it belongs to the original owner, flair, regardless.
@@nina2x looser??? He capitalised on the American dream!!! Had something a corporation wanted....and he made it work to his advantage. The go between guy was who was shaking them down if anyone was 🤣🤣
@@jamesbeard7118 ooh ok thanks for clarifying. I listen to so many wrestling podcast it’s hard to know who’s all there (other than the wrestlers). Who’s this guy with Cornette?
This show made me want to weep. I live in Johnson City and work in Erwin (where I am from). I could have easily had that black robe had I known...and I would have made them a better deal for me and them.
@Manismi RAMP hard not to mention her when she married to Conrad should have had her into their Ashley there I guess Megan doesn't want to be on camera
I don't have a desire to watch this show. I was listening to Jim and it reminded me of something. So you're saying that just before every commercial break those storage wars guys didn't find the most expensive item? Yeah there's nothing real about reality tv.
How offended can you possibly get over a group of professional storytellers who make a living blurring the lines between reality and fiction making a reality show where some key scenes are a work? Lol it’s what they do 🤷♂️
Why did they not use Crackhead Jake Roberts to look for these things in each episode since they used him to look for the HTM guitar that is sitting right here in the HTM closet!!
The scene of them pressuring Charles Robinson to the point of tears into giving up his cherished Flair robe that he wanted to be buried in was beyond awkward
It's awkward he wanted to be buried in it.....
That's pretty gay for Flair....
@@planexshifter Nice to know you are a homophobe.
It was staged
@@chriskay1449 stop it. You know that it does seem kind of gay. Know the definition of the words you are using. I'm going to guess that you are gay. Gay people are quick to call someone a homophobe.
@@NateNizzle It is homophobia. When you use the word "gay to demean someone, you are a homophobe. You prove yourself to be one with this post.
when they going to look for Shawn Michael's smile??
It's at the bottom of a bag full of somas
Hahaha
Check Vince’s frontal pelvic region. I’m pretty sure that’s how Shawn kept his job for most of his career.
When Tammy gets out of jail
It was lost, long ago.😢
"I dont mind telling you. I was wearing. These 600 dollar custom made lizard shoes and this 13000 dollar Rolex when it happened" - Ric Flair
WOOOOO
And that’s why he’s broke. Dude should’ve been able to comfortably retire 20, maybe 30, years ago.
Damn hahahahaha
@@JM1993951 Made big money and blew big money.
@@JM1993951 3 divorces also don't help
The Jungle robe is truly one of a kind, it was different than any of the others that flair wore, and my guess long term will be the most valuable. They did little Naitch dirty.
There is actually 2 jungle robes.
@@rolltide9547 The one with the genuine Peacock Feathers, someone stole that one according to Flair, there are few photos even of that robe.
The Olivia Walker footage is from Good Morning America. It's on youtube found with one search.
Love the Greg “The 🔨 “ Valentine comparison lol. It’s so true!
Jim is exactly right. I used to like wrestling and haven't been able to stomach the product of the last 15 years. I only want to hear about the people I know and remember.
Same lol I am a fan of aew tho
Whoever would have thought a couple years ago we would see David Crockett and Bad Bunny on the same WWE show in 2021 😂
Lol
Amazing how the classic stuff that drew people are today... now out drawing the so called "modern" wrestling stuff 🤔🤣😂.
In this case it's really not specifically "the classic stuff" it's flair. I get what you meant and where you were going but no one on the show so far has be what Flair is. The André episode has been the closest but more people are alive now who know who and what Flair was over André. If the André episode came out 10 years ago, it's be a different story.
The older stuff is great and has meaning not saying the modern stuff can’t be good. But yeah
Thanks for the kind comments guy. Love the podcast. Keep up the good work. Little Woooo!
I watched that Chris Taylor, Wide World of Sports, match, also! That was a huge deal coming off the 72 Olympics.
I had an Inside Wrestling magazine from 92 that covered that match and Chris Taylor, it was like a reprint
I thought it couldn't get better than Sonny Ono last week having an auction for the Giant Machine mask, but then the absolute legend who had the black butterfly robe did what they did.
More people should try to fleece the fed.
Who is the "he who shall not be named" that Conrad bought the original Crumrine Big Gold from? Scott Steiner?
Possible
@@jamesb1988 Steiner is reportedly the last person to have the belt before Conrad acquired it.
From What I'm Hearing...
I'm *Glad* I Got *Distracted* from this Episode, after The 1st CommercialBreak!
When i was 13 rip hawk tought me how to amateur wrestle in Hereford TX. I would spend hours looking at all of his pictures and magazines. Crazy hearing that name. Rip ran me harder than anyone but i was glad to do so every night.
Trying to work out who the biggest heel in wrestling is, Jim Cornette or the guy who owned the butterfly robe!!
WWE are the biggest heels
Agreed. The way he jerked Flair around 🤬🤬🤬
#NeedsToCatchHands
How do we know it’s not the same person lol
@@jessewidner2156 ooooh plot twist!!! 😂😂 I'm sure Jim wouldn't want to make Charles Robinson cry like that no matter how big a heel he is
Well, Grizzly Smith had three of his children in wrestling, but I can't say Rockin' Robin was better than Jake.
I think flair helped taker beat Hogan for world title at surviver series 91
Was wearing the black robe too.
Maybe but I think it was the two tombstones that beat hogan for the world title at survivorslam 91 more than Ric Flair but the chair def helped
Kiniski ref'ed a NWA title match here in St. Louis between Race and David Von Erich. he was so bad I honestly thought as a kid live that people would riot the Kiel Auditorium.
Flair is definitely the most sampled wrestler in hip-hop history. And Corny describing the wrestler's proclivity for jewelry sounds exactly like rappers/pro athletes 🤣🤣
The guy who had the robe was no wrestling fan he probably heard about the search and figured he would rake whoever came for it over the coals. Besides they just wanted it because Sheri wore it with nothing on lol.
For real
I like that jungle/lion robe the most. That's the most badass robe I've ever seen.
Discussing the problems with the Starrcade 83 main event. There was one problem. The referee. Gene not only messed up the finish, but he was constantly in the way, so their timing got messed up because they had to keep looking over their shoulders to where Gene was.. Harley and Ric had matches on TV leading up to this that were better and much more fluid and the only two differences are the cage (which should not have been a problem for these two) and the Ref.
The Chris Taylor debut from Wide World of Sports was at the Amphitheater in Chicago.
I seem to recall Arn wearing one of those waist pack things. Could also be Barry?
I traveled for work....I lost count of the things I've left in hotels.
Does anyone know who Cornette was talking about at 7:00?
Flair had put the belt up as collateral on loans to multiple people
@@chrischar9428 I remember High Spots loaned Flair money for the belt
Is there a documentary on the evolution and history of the Midnight Express?
I know there's a book but I dont know about the documentary
For Bruiser Brody's funeral service in Japan, Brody was pictured wearing All Japan's Capital sports wear.
A friend of mine purchased one of the shirts Brody wore directly from Brody's widow Barbara Goodish.
Brian is the great value Conrad Thompson!!! Yup I said it
I'll take Last over Conrad every time.
Dusty vs Flair Best Rivalry.
First time I heard him mention Conrad lol
On GD
Conrad and his stupid UA-cam ads
@@johncena9631 ofn get back gang
I never knew COnrad was married to Flair's daughter, ha, he punched well above his weight.
@Aaron Lassiter 👀👀👀
Before they tore down the Sportatorium in Dallas, Kevin Von Erich went there because he wanted the WCCW ring but it was gone. How about going looking for that?
I'm surprised that Jim didn't know hip hop embraced Flair, he replaced Trump in a lot of ways as the status symbol of opulence. Add in the strut and the wooo to copy next thing you know he's an icon all over again
The current batch in the culture are definitely doing a better job representing the glory days of wrestling than the actual company itself is. That whole Buffalo scene right now.
Oh, don’t be surprised, by the way.
Jim hates rap music.
@@joshuaDstarks I knew he hated rap I just figured that someone woulda mentioned it to him by now
They didn't replace Trump, they were both used side by side long before Trump ran for president. It's based off location. Southern rap used Ric Flair because he's damn near synonymous with the south due to him primarily working there. Trump was the choice for NY and west coast rappers. They both eventually bled over in to all regions of rap.
21:01 Brian, the icon photo was the WWF magazine photo of Flair in the director's chair that they showed in that episode .....🤦
Terry Gordy has two, Miranda Gordy independent and Ray Gordy former wwe aka Jesse partner of Festus.
Jimmy Snuka had two, with his daughter being more successful, Tamina and Deuce.
@@philipclarke9696 Their adopted so Sports wise they don't have his real Genes or any Mother or Father. Don't know if you kids actually think 🤔 they are blood Nope....
@bigkev3184 Tamina was born in January of 1978 in Seattle when Jimmy was working for Don Owens in the Pacific Northwest territory.You kids need to do your homework.Unless, you have inside information that Tamina is adopted, which she isn’t.
Bumbags were biggest in the 90's but I still wear mine, gym mostly and the market sometimes.
At the time WCW was the drizzling shits, but the Lil Naitch storyline with Ric was fucking hilarious...Charles Robinson was the LiL MANNNNNNNNNN.
OK, I'll bite..where was the big gold belt?
Please do a search for The Shockmaster mask!
That would be something to see. Lol
It's rolling around on a floor somewhere after Fred Ottman took another tumble.
It was a really good episode with Flair, but that lost bank bag story has to be Tully. Tully would be holding that bank bag while he was doing promos in Mid-Atlantic while he was NWA TV Champion. Tully had the money and all the jewelry back in 1984, I bet it he's the one who lost it.
Or the one who kept it lol.
Didn't Windham wear a decent amount of jewelry back in '87?
Lol Brian sounds like a little girl jealous cause AJs living his dream
Brian is always very transparent lol, emotional guy...
That guy jacked up the price not the person on the phone it was such B.S he was behind the whole thing.
Mrs Olivia Walker stuff was from a feature on Good Morning America.
Conrad holds the robe. He tweeted it out. Im guessing he now owns the robe and will loan it to WWE whenever
Conrad i believe is the caretaker for all of ric's memorabillia. There are probably a few items like the original big gold belt that he will not part with because it may not be entirely his to part with.
DOES ANYONE ELSE KNOW WHO OWNS AN AUTHENTIC RIC FLAIR ROBE?....There has to be at least 1 or 2 wrestlers who have one...not just Charles Lil Naitch and Darius Ruker
They said on the show at Conrad Thompson owns at least a half dozen of them.
Lol somehow I picture Tully as the Horseman who lost his money and jewelry
Pagie is a 2nd gen wrestler and has a brother that wrestles that she was better than
Wait Conrad is flairs son in law? I’ve been curious how he got so involved in rasslin podcasts
He married Megan Flair
I wonder if Curt Hennig's family has Lex Luger's tights tassels?
Rich Rosenberg is from my hometown and was a substitute teacher. It was like a blind person teaching how to read sign language. Guy was weird. I always took em as a pedo
i been waiting on this just thinking how much money Flair spend over the years...
Just imagine how much money he made throughout his career. That’s exactly how much he spent.
@@epicproportionsmediaproduc6697 times 2
20 million made probably spent 30 million.
That Conrad dude just busting out cash what the hell does he do for work, he’s rich lol
Is this a rib?
@@zlinedavid what’s a rib?
@@ajjjay9583 Damn, you're serious. Conrad owns a fairly successful mortgage brokerage and is the co-host of some of the biggest wrestling podcasts out there (Bruce Prichard, Arn Anderson, Jeff Jarrett, Eric Bischoff, Jim Ross, etc..).
@@zlinedavid oh I know about that stuff , I didn’t know he did that well, the dude kept raising the price on the robe and Conrad was like whatever here’s 60 thousand, lol.
How could Brian not think of Tully when it came to the daughter being a better worker than the son?
@@MatsThyWit I need to listen again because the way I took the question was a wrestler having sons and daughters and the daughter was better than the sons.
Because Tully doesn't have a son who was in the wrestling business.
I would have loved one of the classic All Japan Jumpsuits that the Young Boys wear, or authentic Ribera Steakhouse Jacket, things that they just don't make any longer.
I was crying of laughter at how hard they got finessed by the guy at end
That guy was a substitute teacher or mine.. rich rosenberg from winthrop mass
seems like they could've just sued for it tbh and easily won. there's no finders keepers law in tn; it's misplaced property, and it belongs to the original owner, flair, regardless.
You should laugh at yourself. That whole thing was staged.
@@MatadorMedia i would have tried going that route, vs getting finessed by that loser
@@nina2x looser??? He capitalised on the American dream!!! Had something a corporation wanted....and he made it work to his advantage. The go between guy was who was shaking them down if anyone was 🤣🤣
This is the 2nd episode I have seen of this show and I had to tap out. Super hard to watch I just couldn't finish it.
the Ms Olivia stuff was from a bio piece on a non wrestling show.
Listened to a lot of Conrad clips never knew he was married to one of Flair's daughter
I hate that guy. Can barely listen to Arn's podcast because of that a hole.
35 dislikes for Flair!? C'mon
They know they know hard times baby. A computer took their job.
Brian big mad he not the host of WWE treasures lol
I thought Conrad was the guy doing this podcast with Jim Cornett.. or is that with Bruce Prichard only? See now I’m confused 😵💫
He does a Bruce Pritchard. He has one with Kurt Angle and he had one with JR but idk if that one is still around.
@@jamesbeard7118 ooh ok thanks for clarifying. I listen to so many wrestling podcast it’s hard to know who’s all there (other than the wrestlers). Who’s this guy with Cornette?
@@Bbknuckles Brian last
Only thing I don't get it why (maybe for views idk) asking Bad Bunny ''Do you know where is that robe?'' I found it funny
Bhad Barbie
Because it’s some terrible syntax.
butterfly robe $90,000 (DAMN)!!!!!
Of ALL the people, Brian Last doesn't know what a bank bag is :D
If they make a physical hall of fame they’ll probably have a Ric Flair wing and that’s probably why they offered more for his robes.
Honestly they’d be so stupid not to dude is so well known in pop culture
Ric Flair and Undertaker are getting entire floors dedicated to their stuff lol
The ultimate Holy Grail the missing Hulk Hogan inches
They're in Bubba the Lovesponge's wife
@@oakley22610 I would have thought they were in his EX's purse
How did Conrad get the crumrine belt??
I'd love to hear what Brian thinks of AJ in Hit Row Records 😂
This show made me want to weep. I live in Johnson City and work in Erwin (where I am from). I could have easily had that black robe had I known...and I would have made them a better deal for me and them.
bummer bro
If cocaine and creepy had a child its name would be Ric flair
Flair is pure, uncut awesome.
The Flair documentary on STAR that's through Disney+ is well worth a watch if anyone wants to know more on Rick and his life during his early years
His ESPN 30 for 30 is incredible as well.
@@grabbity that may be the greatest piece of programming ever.
@@natebaxter9551 agreed. Very few wrestling docs I've watched more than a couple times. That's the exception to the rule for sure.
18:29 shit grizzly would be the one
Butterfly Rope was hard to find
Thank you for saying something good about Jake.
I got so pissed
7:07 Holla if ya hear me! 💪🏻😎
Is that who he was talking about? Scott Steiner? But why would Scott Steiner have the 1986 title?
grizzly Smith's daughter may have been a better in ring worker than Jake the snake? promos are different story though
Jake was a masterful storyteller in the ring and I think that trumps pure athleticism
Wonder what ali's Robe from elvis is worth?
Charlotte flair is amazing , love the show, cheers
I think Charlotte should do her own gimmick not try to copy her dad.
I have been waiting for this review all week!!!
Bryan Last being mad at staged scenes and made up storylines while being part of the wresting business for years is hilarious
olivia footage has been on UA-cam for years now
They talked about read but not David
@Manismi RAMP hard not to mention her when she married to Conrad should have had her into their Ashley there I guess Megan doesn't want to be on camera
The gold robe is definitely cooler than the jungle robe
I always thought Greg had a more successful career than his father Johnny Valentine
I don't have a desire to watch this show. I was listening to Jim and it reminded me of something. So you're saying that just before every commercial break those storage wars guys didn't find the most expensive item? Yeah there's nothing real about reality tv.
How offended can you possibly get over a group of professional storytellers who make a living blurring the lines between reality and fiction making a reality show where some key scenes are a work? Lol it’s what they do 🤷♂️
Ric Flair quiet possibly had the most underrated and coolest mini stables in wrestling with his Him, Mr Perfect, and Bobby Heenan.
Hootie?
LMAO
Id love either Randy Savages' silver logo robe or the Mega-Powers robe
Why wasn’t flair given back his robe?
When they say AJ, they don't mean AJ Styles do they?
How did Conrad get the old belt?
Well.....you know.....
@@zlinedavid do do do?
@@zlinedavid That's not helpful
Will the whole hall of fame be finished before or after Vince sells the company?
Itll never be finished.
before
Why did they not use Crackhead Jake Roberts to look for these things in each episode since they used him to look for the HTM guitar that is sitting right here in the HTM closet!!
You’re an asshole, and i am intrigued.. Please do tell more.
Little nature boy got fucked by his hero and the company he works for!! Got me red!
It's 12:50 am pacific time. Thanks Jim and Brian
Points off for not making the money look like member berries.....🙊