what are your thoughts on the current state of platinum trophy hunters and the leaderboards? P.S let me know if you like these more sit down/ old school vids and I’ll make some more 😅
Very well respected. I'm currently trying to balance out between trophies & achievements having 279 plats (currently trying to make ZZZ my 280th since I'm addicted to the game since trying on launch) though my downside of trophy hunters as of late is they are getting to critical, like let's say you autopop a PS5 game from your PS4 save they'll complain about it, like come on you put in the work on the previous version let it slide. I like getting feedback through social posts of games I complete but if they'll nit pick gives me less motivation to 100%
@@ShoutingzombiePSTrophyHunter I see trrophies more of a list of games you have played, and how far you managed to beat them. Autopopping then means getting “rewarded” for not doing just that. Yes you beat it on ps4, but you didnt on ps5. Each to their own ofc.
If people want to buy shit games for easy platinums that's fine. It's always been part of trophy hunting it's just gotten easier/faster over time since game creators see the demand for insanely easy and fast platinums and are meeting it.
Didn't much care for platninum leaderboards but I did check ever so often for the game I played and where I was for my country and to find friends. While I did have a ton of multiplayer games on ps3 I am more selective on ps4. While I do have things like Spyro, I also have stuff like FFXV which is less than1600 earned a wide range of stuff at 80-90% but still under 20 plats total which makes them special to me. :3 Thanks for the video PB.
If you’re enjoying a game and want more of it, then get the platinum! BUT if you change your mind half way through no problem come back another time… or not. Basically platinum's and trophies in general should be pressure free and enjoyment full ✌🏻
Me staring at probably 150ish games in my backlog when I first created my PSN profile account. I learned that there's a reason a lot of those games will stay the way they are is because they're not worth my time or effort. Some of them I rented or had free at some point and would need to buy as well, so yeah, don't stress about it
@@devinloew7681 absolutely a backlog can be full of great games you forgot about but also bad games you should leave behind so never feel backlog pressure, if something new is out and your excited to play I would never avoid it because of a big backlog that’s too much pressure on what should be a fun hobby! 😀
@LeechyPlatinum Love that take! I wish you joy in your gaming. I've been playing Inscryption a lot lately and just enjoying it. It seems like I'll do a game or two on my account and then play a game on an alternate account that I'm just wanting to have fun with, no pressure.
I see some platinum hunters to do it just for the sake of it, they enjoy the fact they'll get a platinum rather than the game itself. Doing checklist, shortcuts and tricks only to get that trophy and not enjoy half of what they're doing. Ain't a race, or a competition just personal completition. There are fun games to complete, some that are a pain but that is the point. Not everything needs to be a challenge someone needs to tackle on in order to have well, everything just whatever you like and enjoy
Gonna hard disagree. There’s literally nothing impressive or “hard working” about farming and region stacking shovelware platinums. You can do several hundred of these games an hour. It takes 0 effort, 0 skill or thought. It’s just a money sink. It’s also impossible to discredit them as they have 0 credit or respect in the platinum community.
@@DeItaBIake Hes not wrong... What's impressive or hard working about buying a game and stacking it multiple times? Especially seeing as a lot are auto pops... Or buying those dreadful games that have plats that can be earned in a few mins or hour? Nothing at all. Its honestly sad that someone would keep doing that to watch a number go up tbh. Go buy and play games you actually enjoy and if you want to 100% them then do so.
It's even more sad that people care about how others spend their money and time. Literally who cares? If someone wants to grab a 5 min platinum (that is available to everyone) then let them. If you have too much pride and ego over it, then don't buy em. But don't be a crybaby over actions that do not affect you in the slightest. Live your own life, man. I'm sure you gotta better things to do than dis how people live. Well at least I hope so.
I have much respect for the casual trophy hunter it's the only genre where I find casuals the superior species. Do what you want when you want fun times.
oh yeah, I actually think being a casual consumer of anything is where the most fun is. I casually consumed anime for a long long time but the more I watched the more certain things annoyed me haha take me back
I'm a casual hunter I don't care about plats too much I just get as much trophies as is fun for me, most of my games are in the B to A rank on the website. I only have 18 plats had this account since 2008, 143 games at a 42% completion rate. I also have Xbox now so I split time and games between the 2 consoles. I'm even more casual on Xbox achievements.
I never have respect for any trophy hunter that has thousands of quick platinums (where you can pop the platinum trophy in like 15 minutes, and then duplicate said platinum like 3-4 times). It's just an empty inflated trophy list at that point. I'm a Platinum Hunter, (currently sitting at 190) and all of them are full fledged games. And some of them were hard AF. AND!!! I never sacrificed the most sacred rule of being a gamer, "Have fun and enjoy the game first"
As much as I agree with you, it really doesn’t matter if you respect them or not. People do it because they want to do it and if they want to spend their money on it and they’re happy then I hope they continue. A lot of people enjoy having more platinums than there friends even if that means doing crappy games, to get there and I don’t think any of them are sacrificing the enjoyment of playing games they just have a different of enjoying it.
@@08creweasure, but the question from the vid was whether ppl getting quick and easy plats is just as “respectable” as playing long easy open world games. I would argue that it doesn’t matter if the game is hard or not, but if you think it is a good game. If you get thousands of plats in games you would otherwise never play, I personally fail to respect wasting in a sense your time, as all you are doing is hunting the achievement of seeing high numbers, and not enjoying the experience the game gives.
There’s no way anyone overtook him legit ( unless he stopped chasing plats) he was way ahead of a lot of people and all of a sudden others are hundreds ahead doesn’t make sense.
@@SecretPaintsHe doesn't play enough shovelware to stay on top. If you look at how many of these games the top 10 play compared to hakoom you can see how he got overtaken
This is why I just trophy hunt for me and not leaderboard. I also got flagged forever ago for a trials rising glitched track that popped every trophy in 2 seconds so it's not like I even can care about leaderboards. But for me I just trophy hunt because it let's me get the most out of my games and I loved achievement hunting as a kid so it's nice to finally be able to go back and 100% games I couldn't as a kid which is mainly just a pride thing 😭
That glitched track should have been allowed.I dont see why they blacklisted it.I was gonna do it myself but didnt have enough time to download the game update.
@@Zeiytwal2mermagx Yeah its very goofy but whatever honestly only thing that annoys me about it is the fact i lost alot of fastest achievers and a couple of early top 10 achievers but it honestly took a weight off my shoulder so i know no long no life games and enjoy them more so in a way im oddly grateful?
Same😂, I got blacklisted because a hacker in gta v online back in the ps3 popped the platinum of the entire lobby, I cant even hide the game nowadays because I dont own a ps3 anymore😂
This is why I only go for platinums that I want. I never understood why some people just want easy plats that take under an hour. Platinum trophies, to me mean that you did everything in the game and you were somewhat challenged. You experienced everything.
@PlatinumBro I get what they're doing, and more power to them. If the number is what matters to them, then they should do what makes them happy. They aren't harming anyone. My perspective is that plats are like a totem to a game you played. I just don't view a lot of shovelware games as true games. So the plats aren't as meaningful to me. But like I said, people should do what makes them happy.
I have to admit I am at the phase where whenever I look into new game I look up the trophies. I still am not on any leaderboard anyway. I do not wish to be there. I do it because of my personality. I love the feeling of getting something out of my hobby, the feeling of pop when new trophy comes. People are getting prizes on competitions I get trophies. So I enjoy it. Platinum too hard...screw it. Maybe try later when I get better at this genre. BUT...I feel like my brother is getting into this trend or I dunno. Lately I see him buy and play games not even worthy 1 dollar in sales. Fast games done in an hour. But he is saying he loves them because they are short and relaxing with his limited time. On the other hand you hear him saying things like "Ha. I have 3 new platinums and you got nothing?" "I will catch up to your platinums in no time!" But I play games like Yakuza, Assassins Creed, Final Fantasy,... and not games like him. But I don't mind and continue playing what I love and how.
Same mindset as you! I sometimes get that desire to get some quick trophies, especially after a long grind. After 2-3 of those fast plats, I quickly realize they feel so unrewarding and then I get back to the original mindset. Always the same loop but can't help it ahah
@@ppuevig8205 well me too but it is because I wanna something different sometimes. For example I play bigger longer game and I need a pause from it so I for example play shorter game from indie studio. I have a problem to be completely into one game for a long time. My concentration can't hold for so long on one game even if I love it. So sometimes I need to change it.
I think its a double edged sword being a trophy hunter and being competetive at the same time. I personally like hard/difficult/low% games, but I also want to get higher on the leaderboards. But with the state of games and trophies today where you can get hundreds of 10-minute platinums then all your hard work towards a plat that takes 1 month sees you surpassed on the leaderboard by atleast 10-15 people with easy plats. I wish they somehow could make the leaderboards based on the difficulty of the plat and not the ammount..
I quite recently started hunting trophies and platinums. Got my 71st platinum few days ago. I've learned lesson to go for games I enjoy and see worth of going for. Only thing I don't like are trophies that include multiplayer or are un obtainable because server features are disabled.
This is less a look at the state of trophies and more a look at accounts that only care about the number of plats and not the quality of trophy lists. It would’ve been more interesting if you took 10 or 15 games, AAA, AA and Indy, and judge the quality of those trophies.
It was a interesting look at the leaderboard. But fortunately, Trophy Hunting is so much more. The community is growing, the hobby is changeing. I am currently debating with myself what trophy hunting means to me. I went through many stages and I think, I arrived at the beginning of my journey. I just play what I like. And it is refreshing and fun.
@akr12877 whats the point of competing if the competition becomes "who wastes more money and time for useless numbers on the internet" Atleast with normal trophies its a good show of talent and a way to show your achievements.
I'm that weirdo who is #1 on the PS5 leaderboard. Things have certainly changed a lot during the PS5 generation, and i was even friends with MrUnknown who i know you interviewed in the past. I started trophy hunting like this soon after he had quit, and seeing the parallels between my times and his have been very interesting. If you are ever curious to learn about the modern state of playing for the leaderboard, please feel free to hit me up, i'm more than happy to help people understand it better! There's definitely layers to this, and is just a different style of trophy hunting all together.
Was having a great day until I got told SingStar trophies aren't hard or rare enough. That pain is real sir and all I did was accidentally load the trophy list up off the XMB that one time! Now I'm stuck with it, dancing away to 'Girls just wanna have fun' with two motion controllers, but I can't stop now. 😂
I am almost at platinum #50 and it feels like such an achievement, but then you look at these leaderboards... oh well at least I play games I enjoy. Keeping #50 reserved for the witcher 3 btw. Just need to replay the game on deathmarch and get all the card and then #50 will be mine!
I Platinum games I enjoy! If I'm not enjoying it I'll just stop playing it, I'd rather spend time in another game I'll actually enjoy than in one I don't. I personally don't do the shovelware games it ain't my thing, I have a few easy games that took an hour or more but no 1min Plats. Everyone's Platinum experience is their own so if you wanna Platinum 1000 shovelware's then you can, but personally that isn't my thing, so I just stick to games I enjoy or if I decide to torture myself for a video I'll do it, but that's rare lol. Great video PlatinumBro!!
I don't get it. Why would you want to spend so much money on games that you don't even enjoy? I've heard some people saying they actually like these shovelware games but there is no gameplay, no graphics, no story, nothing about them. I'm pretty addicted to trophy hunting myself. I 100% all the games I play but I make sure to actually like that game before buying it
I just platinum games I have the most fun in. I almost have 20 now lol that's nothing compared to these people with 10k, but I'm happy with the ones I got :')
Not sure why but have lost motivation for trophy hunting, last time I went trophy hunting was probably January. Just been spending time on other hobbies/enjoying playing some retro games.
I started playing video games in ‘83 & I was always kind of a completionist. For example, I would beat a game in all difficulties (MGS comes to mind, beating it on the hardest difficulty with just a slither of health in the end) or collect everything there was to collect (breeding chocobos in FF7 for countless hours in a time where we had no internet to look for guides) so when trophies were introduced, trophy hunting just came naturally to me. In the beginning it was all about playing games you liked and getting that feeling of accomplishment when you earned the platinum & maybe bragging to your friends about it 😂 But then leaderboards were created and people started getting competitive. And with that people started playing games they didn’t necessarily like just to add another platinum on their trophy list. And it started spiraling downwards ever since… At first people would play the same game from different regions (EU, US, ASIAN) or on different platforms like ps3 & vita but at least they were actually playing the game. Nowadays with more platforms, auto-popping & 2 minute platinum games people are getting like 15 platinums from a single game in like 10 minutes; it’s ridiculous and in my personal opinion, completely pointless. It’s not a “competition” anymore about who is better in gaming but just a matter of who has more money to waste on complete garbage 🤷🏽♂ There was a time I would earn like 50 platinums a year on average but it’s been 5-6 years now since I “retired”. What I mean by this is that I still gonna platinum the game I’m playing but I’m not trying to do it as fast as possible anymore so that I can start “working” on the next one. My latest one, Spider Man Miles Morales, took me a month and a half to complete 😂 Anyways, I currently have 446 platinums, and though I too played some easy games just for the platinum (my name is mayo… 😞) I take more pride in the 0.1% platinums I have and my completion ratio (90%). The current state of trophy hunting is like I said earlier, ridiculous and completely pointless. Don’t even bother with the leaderboards. You wanna go for a platinum, do it for yourself. Play games you actually like and enjoy and if they are challenging and you achieve that platinum you gonna feel way better about earning 1 than earning 30 playing garbage 🤷🏽♂
I agree that it’s always interesting to see the difference in platinums now compared to years ago. I think people don’t remember but back in the day when our community was way smaller than it is now, getting easy and fast platinums was actually unheard of. If you saw a game that could be completed in 6-8 hours, then you’d probably play that game because it was considered a fast completion. The more platinums you had the more impressive you was. I think anyone remotely interested in chasing platinums/completions played these games a few years ago. I myself have around 100 on my profile. It’s impossible to keep up with the big spenders like David. I think that’s why most gamers now go for harder platinums or actually play good games. Also, I’m not embarrassed of my 100 easy and fast completions as I look at them with fond memories with how the smaller community use to be, but I know some people who started completely brand new accounts because they had easy games on their profiles.
@@MrDannyFC22 yeah, like I said it once meant “skill” (mostly, people beck then would also hack…) & now it just means money. It’s like bragging to a F2P for spending $100k+ on Diablo Immortal 😂
@@PlatinumBro cosmetics are actually cheap in comparison to how much some people waste to max out their character I’ve seen a person with over 11k resonance That must have cost him like 300k & I’m being really conservative on my estimation
It's very much a case of don't hate the player, hate the game when it comes to the top trophy hunters playing majority shovel wear for the easy plat. You're absolutely right that these people still dedicate a lot of their time and money and we shouldn't judge them for using these options to get where they are. I may not agree with the methods, but what they do isn't wrong. I think Sony needs to be much more picky about what games should have platinums. For a start, games should have a potential fail state or a level of effort to qualify for a platinum. So things like visual novels and shovel wear could still exist but they wouldn't qualify for a platinum but it wouldn't penalise games that technically can't be failed but require a level of effort, like simulation games. I also think trophy list should be reviewed so that trophies don't become entirely unobtainable. For a example, if a server closes the effected trophies could be tweaked with an equal challenge. Obviously there would still be exceptions to this but a majority of unobtainables could be reinvigorated this way and give some games more longevity. I personally think auto popping shouldn't be a thing. I think if you want to obtain a platinum again, you should have to play the game again. No shortcuts. It just cheapens the experience. I have no issue with save data transferring but I really don't agree with trophies transferring. I do fully appreciate that there will be people who don't agree and there's potentially flaws to my opinions that I haven't thought of. I think the issue is much more nuanced and doesn't have an easy solution - if it even needs one. I don't really put much stock into the leaderboards for myself because I know getting to a notable rank is borderline impossible and is definitely a lot more time, stress and effort than I want my hobby to be. I think when chosing to trophy hunt, as long as you set your own metric for success and choose what aspects you want to put effort into then thats what will make it fun for you. I personally use my completion percentage as my metric for success because to me it reflects my level of effort an tells me I've got everything I can out of a game I've paid for but again, I know 100% is not obtainable for me but I enjoy watching it improve as I finish games.
As someone who left behind 55,000 gamerscore on my 360 account and left behind a good deal of my early Playstation trophies when I switched my PSN account a few years ago and has never been a big achievement/trophy hunter in the first place at least as far as platinums go I'm mostly just focused on getting back games I know I used to have and getting my overall completion percentage to 70 %.
I've been trophy hunting for a long time now, personally love the meta concept of trophies and how they can push you to play outside of your usual playstyle, plus even before trophies came along I liked to get 100% collectibles and completeion when possible. I got to a platinum count I am happy with and have stepped back from actively collecting now, I play the games I want to and if it is a doable plat I'll go for it, but no longer chasing rankings. I was trying to get some quick platinums in order to get to a landmark number and spent a week and a half knocking out hidden object games which I didn't enjoy, I made the decision to slow down after that, only focus on what I like playing.
Thanks for the shout out:) Honestly it's pretty crazy how the things changed over the years, I would say that shovelware releases did slow down a fair bit compared to last year
The Japanese visual novels don't require you to know JP tbh, there are sites for guides to change the settings to skip through it in minutes for the trophies (Since they just require completion) Nah Sony meant they won't spam the "NEW" section of the store they don't care about quality sadly. It's why Gollum & Kong are sold, they just don't care haha.
Even if I did many easy platinums or 100% and harder ones I never want to be in a leaderboard, I use websites to research what games I wanna play. The lesson I learned is those not 100% is where I quit because either they're time-consuming and also too heavily grindy or just too impossible I do not wish to be more burnout. I decided to do quality games to 100% I reach that honeymoon phase and I can say my backlogs of 200+ games will be serviceable.
Ever since I got flagged from the leaderboards for trophy hacking from the Vita and reached lvl 999 I felt like the weights lifting off my shoulders, now I can show off my friends my trophy level and still enjoy playing videogames.
I've had about 8 or 9 PSN accounts so half of my hard earn trophies are scattered all over. I've recently restarted on my platinum run and I can honestly say it's not fun after a while, but I can't stop until I get super bored. The one I miss is F.E.A.R. 2 I did so much grinding for that platinum before the servers closed and now on my new account, I can't show off all my hard work.
I don’t always agree with you sir but this video is spot on. I think having 10k plats is respectable and as long as they are having fun that’s what matters.
Im at 1680 platinums atm trying to be the best of the Netherlands. now I’m at place 17 of it. But yes I understand that the easy games is ruining it a bit and is not very rewarding but yeah if a game is in a sale instead of €4 it’s like €2 than I always buy them . I have like 80% games that you can complete in like 1/2 hours but I also love the grind for very hard games . Like call of duty’s fifa and now trying to go for gta 5 and I always think it’s fun that every 50 games is like a milestone on psnprofiles so I do at least every 50 games 1 game that is like under 10/15% so that looks a bit nicer I think
The only easy Platinum I’ve got is Storm Boy but the game is no where near being a shovelware game. It’s based on an Australian children’s book and is made by an indie Australian game studio. The game is like a playable storybook and is such a beautiful game. I actually cried during the ending of it. It may be one you can do in 30 minutes but I don’t think it is anyway near being a shovelware. It’s beautiful and if you’re Australian or have ever read the book or seen the film the game is a must play.
I gave up on the leaderboards long ago when I saw a video of yours talking about this situation then. Sony’s never gonna do extensive “quality control” of these leaderboards, because they create revenue for them since they take a 30% cut of the sales of these games. Money is king.
As much as I watch trophy content I’m by no means a hunter. Got a list of games I want the plat, WRC, Uncharyed 2,3,4Lost legacy (have 1), Cyberpunk, Mafia 2/3(have 1) but I just take my time with it and don’t stress it at all. I think that’s why it’s still exciting for me
I only play games I’m going to enjoy currently trying to platinum the whole trails series 😅 as long as I’m having fun I just don’t care how long I take. The last time I went hard was getting 3 plats I did every Tokyo rpg factory game before they got removed in January/ February this year
Trails or Trials? If you mean trials 100% in Trials Fusion is impossible at the moment because of the track central doesn’t work. I looking almost every day since months .
I have just started trophy hunting about a year ago (currently sitting at 7 platinums because im usually busy). I only go for games that I enjoy apart from one which was bunny raiders, i did it a year ago found it so unenjoyable that i stopped and then did it last week because it was sitting at 90% and i just wanted it over and done with
5:30 Actually, Fortunato is from Brasil, which is indeed a South American country, but show Brasil some love man, we have a big trophy hunting community.
I wish Sony would implement something to indicate you beat the game. Once the credits roll and there is nothing else I would like to do I prefer to move on. Not every game you beat awards you with a gold trophy so a tick for beating the game would be ideal. I do it with an excel sheet but would like to show off on my profile what games I've beaten.
I try for platinums, but I'm am not going to force myself to play crappy games just for a platinum, I also hate platinums that require you to play game again, i just don't have the time
Just catching up on all the videos after returning from holiday. The leaderboards are not for me. I wouldn’t get any pleasure out of playing those types of games but like you said in the video “each to their own”. If all shovel ware games were removed then it would be interesting to see what that leaderboard looked like. I finished Hogwarts Legacy. Took me 80 hrs. The collectibles were excessive but overall I thought the game was pretty good quality. I enjoyed the combat, the puzzles and the general exploration. Have you bought any new games recently?
I've been on xbox now for the past 2 years and haven't touched playstation since, and it's definitely sad to see so many awful games that only exist for the sake of platinum trophies. Anyway great video!
Some people share the same account and set a schedule to platinum games in cooperation while the other guy is sleeping or working. These lunatics want to get at the top for no reason, if sony recognized the top 10 platinum owners and gifted them with PS+ for free or something I would get it
Long grinds can still be impressive. It's the determination and mental strength that carries most people through it. If it were an AFK grind then that's something different
I do platinums for myself and fun, but my long term goal is to eventually submit myself to hopefully have it reviewed by some platinum UA-camrs. I’m not there yet but that’s a medium or long term goal to keep In to r back of my mind.
I keep trying to play games just to enjoy them but my trophy brain won’t let me. It’s stoped me from playing highly rated games for the first time and replayed games I’ve enjoyed in the past.
This stuff is such a weird numbers games. I try to platinum every game I play, unless its a ridiculous grind or I just find it far too difficult to do. But its such a time sink, especially if you're playing bigger or longer games. I sort of feel like getting platinum for those crappy 'mini games' shouldn't count. You might be able to platinum a game in a single day, but others can take weeks. I genuinely don't understand how people have the time or the money, and that's coming from someone who games every evening after work. I have less than 50 plats. Its madness lol
To be honest I don't care about leaderboards, it's impressive to look at some others players every now and then but I want to have fun before anything else. I usually don't go for the very grindy trophies or the ultra hard ones but every now and then I put myself in that situation, mostly when I really love a game or when I have a "need" for a challenge, otherwise I'm just having fun.
This sort of trophy hunting is just ludicrous to me. I'm a trophy hunter myself...but mostly because of my OCD😂 But I don't choose games for their ease of platinum, I platinum the games I wanna play and are worth my time. I have platinums that took only a few hours, like Life is Strange...but also ones that took 500h+, like Monster Hunter World/Iceborne, or White Knight Chronicles and even MMOs, like FFXIV and PSO2 that took 1kh+😅
I only have a ps3 and most of the games I have don’t even have trophies available. So most of my games I 100% are on steam and after 9 years I have around 8 100% games. I very rarely go for 100% on games, but I do plan to go for more.
For me trophy hunting is something I like to do for me - an extra challenge I set for myself to complete in games that I enjoy. This is the only way trophy hunting stays fun for me. Trying to get on the leaderboard is pointless with all the shovelware. The games themselves should be at the forefront.
When I platted Slyder, in 24 seconds, i just remember feeling like a dirty little schlag. You'd have to be a proper mad-lad with a barren field of fcuks to spend so much time doing this. It's a mixture of crazy and impressive.
8:08 Disagree here, the devs making shovelware for a cash grab is a much more understandable motive (e.g. they could have a family) than the "trophy hunters" who consume them for... what?
I just always wondered about the PSN advent calendar campaign where they convert trophy points into raffle tickets. I mean, the guys on top of the leaderboard actually should win everything? :D
I’ve gotten 16 platinums ever since I got my ps5 back in March 23 2023, I go for it if I like the game, simple as that. If I obsess with it i know I’ll be miserable.
"ultra rare trophies, there was a time when they were really impressive but it depends on the context of the game and they used to mean something" They were honestly always like this tho, albeit less abundant, even back in the early trophy days, so many "hard" or "skilled" ultra rares are actually mindless grinds.
I would say i was & still half am a trophy hunter, however this year my views are changing as for me the fun is being sucked out by mundane tasks or long grinds and for what reason. I recently got a xbox 360 just to play games to enjoy without looking at lists/guides or difficulty because the realisation is i am missing out on some fantastic games because of this. My view now is to play the game what every difficulty level i can manage to the credits & consider the game done unless i really enjoy it and what to do everything. My compulsive thing now is collecting games which from other youtubers like Retroghetto & Cayle i am enjoying more (apart from the spending) lol but going around hunting for games & collections is bringing some love back for gaming for me, but each are to their own & do what makes you happy
I'm playing more handheld games on the go and Nintendo titles for the same reason and I enjoy the freedom that comes with it 😊😊 I don't have time for multiple 100 plus open world grindy games anymore, I simply just don't have the time for it
i just got my 39th platinum and am currently basing my next game on what is in my backlog for trophy number 40 but i have at least 4 games where i am really close to the platinum but am being held back by dumb reason - e.g mortal kombat 11 unable to complete the strategy tutorial, fall guys the squad goals trophy, crash bandicoot games i suck at the time trials
Seeing the same stack of games 7 times in a list with a near 100% completion rate just looks ugly, i have done some of these back in 2021but when i realised that more and more were coming i just stopped, i regret those platinums now, i only go for actual games.
Don’t regret your history. I made over 100 Ratalaika games as well but I HAD really fun with that a while ago. Now I stopped because it’s got boring but it’s history of your account. Don’t regret
I enjoy going for platinums and going for the 100% on all the games on my account. Couldn’t care less about the leaderboards though. I don’t even have my psn linked to profiles
Only Shovelware I have is My Name is Mayo 1&2 and even then that was my brother who did those games on my account to mess with my trophy list 😆. Sitting at 196 platinums right now that are mostly some of my favorite games. Only a few (like Beyond Two Souls) are games I genuinely didn’t enjoy and just wanted to up my completion rate.
I find it annoying that some games require you to love them to get the platinum (do all the content) yet some require you to eventually hate the game (ridiculous challenges that dont share identity with the main game). Sekiro platinum is a pleasure. RE4 remake demands you give everything to it and mainline it lol.
I think at this point is an addiction. Most of these games are even games. There was once a time I was pulling 15-20 plats a month (hell I think I pulled at least 50 during the 2022 Discord Challenge which was more than double most people) and most of those were Ratalaika or easier indie titles. Now I'm pulling 5-6 plats a month and I'm happy with that.
I think that’s definitely apart of it but also if people just wanna get as high as possible and enjoy the hunt and are competitive I think that’s very understandable as well
Decent, insightful vid. I actually feel a bit sorry for these guys, it's clearly an unhealthy, expensive addiction. They probably started off enjoying it, but I imagine it is just a massive chore now.
i'd love to get more platinum trophies on my profile. Occassionally i will grind through to get them but some of the games i play need sooooo much grinding to get them
The guys are playing games, easy games and stacking them. They however are also playing substantial games in between. I somehow feel that it’s more than one person on each of these high ranking profiles because you literally have to be playing games all the time. They spending money though and that’s what the businessmen want.
Just as we as players created forums like psn to what they are ...maybe one day a forum that scores platinum depending on what they actually are would be the next big thing. At least that would give me personaly kinda a selfinh joy, cause it shouldnt bother me what other choose to play ....i know ....but just saying it would be nice =p
Don't get me wrong, I have several shovelware plats, and I don't really care about it. But to get to the level of having 100+ of those kinds of games, I just feel like what's the point, it's like just playing the game for the plat. There's so many games where I'm like yeah I'm actually really enjoying this, I'm gonna go for the plat, but then there's others where I'm like yeah nah I've had enough of this game
A while ago i stopped my order for sea of thieves. The game has almost 300 bronze trophies and barely anything else. After a year of playing, i have a total of 450 trophies. I completed as much as i can, and this would completely permanently destroy my account. I know you shouldn't care about stats, but when i put time and care into games i don't want it to go to waste because of a game like this. The trophy struggle is real 😂
rick crying at the hakoom moment, sorry i just couldnt stop laughing 🤣🤣🤣, also what happened to your wrist? you ok bro, dont tell me smites been giving you a hard time
I wouldn't say I'm competing in the leaderboards I'm just trying to reach the max level on PSN and get the Platinum badge in fact I don't even count these towards my total Platinum I consider myself to have 168 Plats rather then the 1000 plus I have
Those people only care about the leaderboard in some websites and that's why they play those awful shovelware games. but PSN doesn't have a leaderboard , so just forget about the leaderboard in those websites because it's meaningless. just play whatever you want and enjoy it , that's the only thing that matters.
I like to think of platinums as something to show off when you do everything in a game and can be competetive, but to spend so much time and money on games that no one is enjoying the gameplay for is kind of dumb. Might as well just sell $1-$5 dollar platinums no gameplay needed. It should be something to be proud of in a game that is well known and respected imo.
The leaderboards are shit to me, so many accounts are flagged for stupidest of reasons then there’s thousands of accounts still in the leaderboards that have clearly cheated
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what are your thoughts on the current state of platinum trophy hunters and the leaderboards?
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Very well respected. I'm currently trying to balance out between trophies & achievements having 279 plats (currently trying to make ZZZ my 280th since I'm addicted to the game since trying on launch) though my downside of trophy hunters as of late is they are getting to critical, like let's say you autopop a PS5 game from your PS4 save they'll complain about it, like come on you put in the work on the previous version let it slide. I like getting feedback through social posts of games I complete but if they'll nit pick gives me less motivation to 100%
@@ShoutingzombiePSTrophyHunter I see trrophies more of a list of games you have played, and how far you managed to beat them. Autopopping then means getting “rewarded” for not doing just that. Yes you beat it on ps4, but you didnt on ps5. Each to their own ofc.
If people want to buy shit games for easy platinums that's fine. It's always been part of trophy hunting it's just gotten easier/faster over time since game creators see the demand for insanely easy and fast platinums and are meeting it.
It used to mean you had some skills; now it just means you have more money to waste on garbage games than someone else 😂
Didn't much care for platninum leaderboards but I did check ever so often for the game I played and where I was for my country and to find friends. While I did have a ton of multiplayer games on ps3 I am more selective on ps4. While I do have things like Spyro, I also have stuff like FFXV which is less than1600 earned a wide range of stuff at 80-90% but still under 20 plats total which makes them special to me. :3 Thanks for the video PB.
If you’re enjoying a game and want more of it, then get the platinum!
BUT if you change your mind half way through no problem come back another time… or not.
Basically platinum's and trophies in general should be pressure free and enjoyment full ✌🏻
couldn't agree more brah
Me staring at probably 150ish games in my backlog when I first created my PSN profile account. I learned that there's a reason a lot of those games will stay the way they are is because they're not worth my time or effort. Some of them I rented or had free at some point and would need to buy as well, so yeah, don't stress about it
@@devinloew7681 absolutely a backlog can be full of great games you forgot about but also bad games you should leave behind so never feel backlog pressure, if something new is out and your excited to play I would never avoid it because of a big backlog that’s too much pressure on what should be a fun hobby! 😀
@LeechyPlatinum Love that take! I wish you joy in your gaming. I've been playing Inscryption a lot lately and just enjoying it. It seems like I'll do a game or two on my account and then play a game on an alternate account that I'm just wanting to have fun with, no pressure.
I see some platinum hunters to do it just for the sake of it, they enjoy the fact they'll get a platinum rather than the game itself. Doing checklist, shortcuts and tricks only to get that trophy and not enjoy half of what they're doing. Ain't a race, or a competition just personal completition.
There are fun games to complete, some that are a pain but that is the point. Not everything needs to be a challenge someone needs to tackle on in order to have well, everything just whatever you like and enjoy
Gonna hard disagree. There’s literally nothing impressive or “hard working” about farming and region stacking shovelware platinums. You can do several hundred of these games an hour. It takes 0 effort, 0 skill or thought. It’s just a money sink. It’s also impossible to discredit them as they have 0 credit or respect in the platinum community.
Oh no th9986 disagrees with them! 😢😮😱😟
@@DeItaBIake Cope boot licker, it’s a fact.
@@DeItaBIakeso you're saying you like being a b*tch and farming $1 platinum trophies?
@@DeItaBIake Hes not wrong... What's impressive or hard working about buying a game and stacking it multiple times? Especially seeing as a lot are auto pops... Or buying those dreadful games that have plats that can be earned in a few mins or hour? Nothing at all. Its honestly sad that someone would keep doing that to watch a number go up tbh. Go buy and play games you actually enjoy and if you want to 100% them then do so.
It's even more sad that people care about how others spend their money and time.
Literally who cares? If someone wants to grab a 5 min platinum (that is available to everyone) then let them. If you have too much pride and ego over it, then don't buy em. But don't be a crybaby over actions that do not affect you in the slightest.
Live your own life, man. I'm sure you gotta better things to do than dis how people live.
Well at least I hope so.
I have much respect for the casual trophy hunter it's the only genre where I find casuals the superior species. Do what you want when you want fun times.
oh yeah, I actually think being a casual consumer of anything is where the most fun is. I casually consumed anime for a long long time but the more I watched the more certain things annoyed me haha take me back
@@PlatinumBro casual 4 lyf in life
I'm a casual hunter I don't care about plats too much I just get as much trophies as is fun for me, most of my games are in the B to A rank on the website.
I only have 18 plats had this account since 2008, 143 games at a 42% completion rate. I also have Xbox now so I split time and games between the 2 consoles. I'm even more casual on Xbox achievements.
I never have respect for any trophy hunter that has thousands of quick platinums (where you can pop the platinum trophy in like 15 minutes, and then duplicate said platinum like 3-4 times). It's just an empty inflated trophy list at that point.
I'm a Platinum Hunter, (currently sitting at 190) and all of them are full fledged games. And some of them were hard AF.
AND!!! I never sacrificed the most sacred rule of being a gamer, "Have fun and enjoy the game first"
As much as I agree with you, it really doesn’t matter if you respect them or not. People do it because they want to do it and if they want to spend their money on it and they’re happy then I hope they continue.
A lot of people enjoy having more platinums than there friends even if that means doing crappy games, to get there and I don’t think any of them are sacrificing the enjoyment of playing games they just have a different of enjoying it.
This was kinda of my point too, well said Crewea
@@08creweasure, but the question from the vid was whether ppl getting quick and easy plats is just as “respectable” as playing long easy open world games. I would argue that it doesn’t matter if the game is hard or not, but if you think it is a good game. If you get thousands of plats in games you would otherwise never play, I personally fail to respect wasting in a sense your time, as all you are doing is hunting the achievement of seeing high numbers, and not enjoying the experience the game gives.
@@08crewea I doubt anyone enjoys popping shovelware jumping pizza sushi pineapple garbage
This is the way
Hakoom has fallen, I repeat, Hakoom has fallen! The King of Bahrain is dead. Long live the new King!
Pahahahaa may he rest in peace
He’s been dethroned for a while now
There’s no way anyone overtook him legit ( unless he stopped chasing plats) he was way ahead of a lot of people and all of a sudden others are hundreds ahead doesn’t make sense.
@@SecretPaintsHe doesn't play enough shovelware to stay on top. If you look at how many of these games the top 10 play compared to hakoom you can see how he got overtaken
That guy fell a long long time ago!
This is why I just trophy hunt for me and not leaderboard. I also got flagged forever ago for a trials rising glitched track that popped every trophy in 2 seconds so it's not like I even can care about leaderboards. But for me I just trophy hunt because it let's me get the most out of my games and I loved achievement hunting as a kid so it's nice to finally be able to go back and 100% games I couldn't as a kid which is mainly just a pride thing 😭
That glitched track should have been allowed.I dont see why they blacklisted it.I was gonna do it myself but didnt have enough time to download the game update.
@@Zeiytwal2mermagx Yeah its very goofy but whatever honestly only thing that annoys me about it is the fact i lost alot of fastest achievers and a couple of early top 10 achievers but it honestly took a weight off my shoulder so i know no long no life games and enjoy them more so in a way im oddly grateful?
Same😂, I got blacklisted because a hacker in gta v online back in the ps3 popped the platinum of the entire lobby, I cant even hide the game nowadays because I dont own a ps3 anymore😂
This is why I only go for platinums that I want. I never understood why some people just want easy plats that take under an hour. Platinum trophies, to me mean that you did everything in the game and you were somewhat challenged. You experienced everything.
They wanna pump those numbers up, I get it tbf
@PlatinumBro I get what they're doing, and more power to them. If the number is what matters to them, then they should do what makes them happy. They aren't harming anyone.
My perspective is that plats are like a totem to a game you played. I just don't view a lot of shovelware games as true games. So the plats aren't as meaningful to me.
But like I said, people should do what makes them happy.
I have to admit I am at the phase where whenever I look into new game I look up the trophies. I still am not on any leaderboard anyway. I do not wish to be there. I do it because of my personality. I love the feeling of getting something out of my hobby, the feeling of pop when new trophy comes. People are getting prizes on competitions I get trophies. So I enjoy it. Platinum too hard...screw it. Maybe try later when I get better at this genre. BUT...I feel like my brother is getting into this trend or I dunno. Lately I see him buy and play games not even worthy 1 dollar in sales. Fast games done in an hour. But he is saying he loves them because they are short and relaxing with his limited time. On the other hand you hear him saying things like "Ha. I have 3 new platinums and you got nothing?" "I will catch up to your platinums in no time!" But I play games like Yakuza, Assassins Creed, Final Fantasy,... and not games like him. But I don't mind and continue playing what I love and how.
Same mindset as you! I sometimes get that desire to get some quick trophies, especially after a long grind. After 2-3 of those fast plats, I quickly realize they feel so unrewarding and then I get back to the original mindset. Always the same loop but can't help it ahah
@@ppuevig8205 well me too but it is because I wanna something different sometimes. For example I play bigger longer game and I need a pause from it so I for example play shorter game from indie studio. I have a problem to be completely into one game for a long time. My concentration can't hold for so long on one game even if I love it. So sometimes I need to change it.
I wish there was a second list that separated all the people that have over 20-30 of those 2-5 minute shovelware games.
that would be great
That would instantly make lots of shovelware hunters start new accounts 😂
Even for a one off I'd be very interested to see how that would change the leaderboards.
I think its a double edged sword being a trophy hunter and being competetive at the same time.
I personally like hard/difficult/low% games, but I also want to get higher on the leaderboards. But with the state of games and trophies today where you can get hundreds of 10-minute platinums then all your hard work towards a plat that takes 1 month sees you surpassed on the leaderboard by atleast 10-15 people with easy plats.
I wish they somehow could make the leaderboards based on the difficulty of the plat and not the ammount..
I agree, I honestly don’t think you can play games not for trophies if you wanna be competitive on the leaderboards
I only like to 100% games I enjoy and even then I think of how much time I’m wasting. Then again it’s a tiny dopamine hit whenever you 100% a game.
I quite recently started hunting trophies and platinums. Got my 71st platinum few days ago. I've learned lesson to go for games I enjoy and see worth of going for. Only thing I don't like are trophies that include multiplayer or are un obtainable because server features are disabled.
I think TrueAchievements and TrueTrophies weights common trophies differently to make an adjusted score, more based on rarity.
100%, they are a great idea
This is less a look at the state of trophies and more a look at accounts that only care about the number of plats and not the quality of trophy lists. It would’ve been more interesting if you took 10 or 15 games, AAA, AA and Indy, and judge the quality of those trophies.
yeah, valid, wasn't sure if the title was fitting enough, asked people who had early access and said it was still related ha
It was a interesting look at the leaderboard. But fortunately, Trophy Hunting is so much more. The community is growing, the hobby is changeing. I am currently debating with myself what trophy hunting means to me. I went through many stages and I think, I arrived at the beginning of my journey. I just play what I like. And it is refreshing and fun.
awww yeah it is baby
I cannot think of anything more soulless than paying for easy plat games and region stacking them 24/7
If you want to compete with the whole world you have to take extreme measures.
@@akr12877 is it worth sacrafising our whole lifes?
@akr12877 whats the point of competing if the competition becomes "who wastes more money and time for useless numbers on the internet"
Atleast with normal trophies its a good show of talent and a way to show your achievements.
@@jarlboof learn how to ping,so everyone wont get notification
@dontwatchanime8063 its a glitch, calm your tits.
I'm that weirdo who is #1 on the PS5 leaderboard. Things have certainly changed a lot during the PS5 generation, and i was even friends with MrUnknown who i know you interviewed in the past. I started trophy hunting like this soon after he had quit, and seeing the parallels between my times and his have been very interesting. If you are ever curious to learn about the modern state of playing for the leaderboard, please feel free to hit me up, i'm more than happy to help people understand it better! There's definitely layers to this, and is just a different style of trophy hunting all together.
Hey man! Congrats on being number 1!
Yeah that could make for an interesting conversation some day! you on discord or Twitter? Or drop me an email ✌🏻
I think it is super lame
@@chadhunt2487 I agree
Stop wasting time!!!! You could’ve platinumed 3 games in the time it took you to write this comment
@@chadhunt2487oh no chadhunt2487 thinks it's lame! 😢😮😱😟
Was having a great day until I got told SingStar trophies aren't hard or rare enough. That pain is real sir and all I did was accidentally load the trophy list up off the XMB that one time!
Now I'm stuck with it, dancing away to 'Girls just wanna have fun' with two motion controllers, but I can't stop now. 😂
Hahahahaha this comment made me burst out laughing 😂
I am almost at platinum #50 and it feels like such an achievement, but then you look at these leaderboards... oh well at least I play games I enjoy. Keeping #50 reserved for the witcher 3 btw. Just need to replay the game on deathmarch and get all the card and then #50 will be mine!
yeah they do devalue platinums a bit but i honestly think its the fault of the devs and sony for not monitoring it
im missing 1 trophy for witcher 3 plat, i got deathmartch and all the cards in my first playtrough i missed some stupid sidequest :D
@@Azizi1163 Hopefully you can get that trophy by replaying a previous safe file? Good luck man, you got this!
It is cool to see the length that people go to stay in that top spot
I Platinum games I enjoy! If I'm not enjoying it I'll just stop playing it, I'd rather spend time in another game I'll actually enjoy than in one I don't. I personally don't do the shovelware games it ain't my thing, I have a few easy games that took an hour or more but no 1min Plats. Everyone's Platinum experience is their own so if you wanna Platinum 1000 shovelware's then you can, but personally that isn't my thing, so I just stick to games I enjoy or if I decide to torture myself for a video I'll do it, but that's rare lol. Great video PlatinumBro!!
I don't get it. Why would you want to spend so much money on games that you don't even enjoy? I've heard some people saying they actually like these shovelware games but there is no gameplay, no graphics, no story, nothing about them. I'm pretty addicted to trophy hunting myself. I 100% all the games I play but I make sure to actually like that game before buying it
Hats off to these people who are smashing out this amount of plats. really does take dedication!
exactly bro
I saw you at the crazygolf tonight! I didn't want to gatecrash your evening.
Just dropping some love here haha
shut up hahahahaha, you should have said hi!
side note, playing golf with a bad hand is not a good idea
I just platinum games I have the most fun in. I almost have 20 now lol that's nothing compared to these people with 10k, but I'm happy with the ones I got :')
Not sure why but have lost motivation for trophy hunting, last time I went trophy hunting was probably January. Just been spending time on other hobbies/enjoying playing some retro games.
i have as well man, just seems a bit pointless with all the stupid grind
I started playing video games in ‘83 & I was always kind of a completionist.
For example, I would beat a game in all difficulties (MGS comes to mind, beating it on the hardest difficulty with just a slither of health in the end) or collect everything there was to collect (breeding chocobos in FF7 for countless hours in a time where we had no internet to look for guides) so when trophies were introduced, trophy hunting just came naturally to me.
In the beginning it was all about playing games you liked and getting that feeling of accomplishment when you earned the platinum & maybe bragging to your friends about it 😂
But then leaderboards were created and people started getting competitive.
And with that people started playing games they didn’t necessarily like just to add another platinum on their trophy list. And it started spiraling downwards ever since…
At first people would play the same game from different regions (EU, US, ASIAN) or on different platforms like ps3 & vita but at least they were actually playing the game.
Nowadays with more platforms, auto-popping & 2 minute platinum games people are getting like 15 platinums from a single game in like 10 minutes; it’s ridiculous and in my personal opinion, completely pointless. It’s not a “competition” anymore about who is better in gaming but just a matter of who has more money to waste on complete garbage 🤷🏽♂
There was a time I would earn like 50 platinums a year on average but it’s been 5-6 years now since I “retired”.
What I mean by this is that I still gonna platinum the game I’m playing but I’m not trying to do it as fast as possible anymore so that I can start “working” on the next one.
My latest one, Spider Man Miles Morales, took me a month and a half to complete 😂
Anyways, I currently have 446 platinums, and though I too played some easy games just for the platinum (my name is mayo… 😞) I take more pride in the 0.1% platinums I have and my completion ratio (90%).
The current state of trophy hunting is like I said earlier, ridiculous and completely pointless.
Don’t even bother with the leaderboards. You wanna go for a platinum, do it for yourself.
Play games you actually like and enjoy and if they are challenging and you achieve that platinum you gonna feel way better about earning 1 than earning 30 playing garbage 🤷🏽♂
I agree that it’s always interesting to see the difference in platinums now compared to years ago.
I think people don’t remember but back in the day when our community was way smaller than it is now, getting easy and fast platinums was actually unheard of. If you saw a game that could be completed in 6-8 hours, then you’d probably play that game because it was considered a fast completion. The more platinums you had the more impressive you was. I think anyone remotely interested in chasing platinums/completions played these games a few years ago. I myself have around 100 on my profile.
It’s impossible to keep up with the big spenders like David. I think that’s why most gamers now go for harder platinums or actually play good games.
Also, I’m not embarrassed of my 100 easy and fast completions as I look at them with fond memories with how the smaller community use to be, but I know some people who started completely brand new accounts because they had easy games on their profiles.
@@MrDannyFC22 yeah, like I said it once meant “skill” (mostly, people beck then would also hack…) & now it just means money.
It’s like bragging to a F2P for spending $100k+ on Diablo Immortal 😂
at least you would have cool skins in diablo tho
@@PlatinumBro cosmetics are actually cheap in comparison to how much some people waste to max out their character
I’ve seen a person with over 11k resonance
That must have cost him like 300k & I’m being really conservative on my estimation
It's very much a case of don't hate the player, hate the game when it comes to the top trophy hunters playing majority shovel wear for the easy plat. You're absolutely right that these people still dedicate a lot of their time and money and we shouldn't judge them for using these options to get where they are. I may not agree with the methods, but what they do isn't wrong.
I think Sony needs to be much more picky about what games should have platinums. For a start, games should have a potential fail state or a level of effort to qualify for a platinum. So things like visual novels and shovel wear could still exist but they wouldn't qualify for a platinum but it wouldn't penalise games that technically can't be failed but require a level of effort, like simulation games.
I also think trophy list should be reviewed so that trophies don't become entirely unobtainable. For a example, if a server closes the effected trophies could be tweaked with an equal challenge. Obviously there would still be exceptions to this but a majority of unobtainables could be reinvigorated this way and give some games more longevity.
I personally think auto popping shouldn't be a thing. I think if you want to obtain a platinum again, you should have to play the game again. No shortcuts. It just cheapens the experience. I have no issue with save data transferring but I really don't agree with trophies transferring.
I do fully appreciate that there will be people who don't agree and there's potentially flaws to my opinions that I haven't thought of. I think the issue is much more nuanced and doesn't have an easy solution - if it even needs one.
I don't really put much stock into the leaderboards for myself because I know getting to a notable rank is borderline impossible and is definitely a lot more time, stress and effort than I want my hobby to be. I think when chosing to trophy hunt, as long as you set your own metric for success and choose what aspects you want to put effort into then thats what will make it fun for you. I personally use my completion percentage as my metric for success because to me it reflects my level of effort an tells me I've got everything I can out of a game I've paid for but again, I know 100% is not obtainable for me but I enjoy watching it improve as I finish games.
Great comment and very very well said. I think you’re right
im addicted to retro achievements, july 15th they releasing gamecube cheevos i like that it spreads across all consoles not just one.
hell yeah! i have played my first game using the website recently
As someone who left behind 55,000 gamerscore on my 360 account and left behind a good deal of my early Playstation trophies when I switched my PSN account a few years ago and has never been a big achievement/trophy hunter in the first place at least as far as platinums go I'm mostly just focused on getting back games I know I used to have and getting my overall completion percentage to 70 %.
Sounds like you found the balance we all want
I've been trophy hunting for a long time now, personally love the meta concept of trophies and how they can push you to play outside of your usual playstyle, plus even before trophies came along I liked to get 100% collectibles and completeion when possible.
I got to a platinum count I am happy with and have stepped back from actively collecting now, I play the games I want to and if it is a doable plat I'll go for it, but no longer chasing rankings. I was trying to get some quick platinums in order to get to a landmark number and spent a week and a half knocking out hidden object games which I didn't enjoy, I made the decision to slow down after that, only focus on what I like playing.
Thanks for the shout out:) Honestly it's pretty crazy how the things changed over the years, I would say that shovelware releases did slow down a fair bit compared to last year
Hahaha no worries, yeah it’s looking very different to last time I checked it
The Japanese visual novels don't require you to know JP tbh, there are sites for guides to change the settings to skip through it in minutes for the trophies (Since they just require completion)
Nah Sony meant they won't spam the "NEW" section of the store they don't care about quality sadly. It's why Gollum & Kong are sold, they just don't care haha.
ahhhh that's actually pretty sad tbf ha
Kinda wish there was a separate leaderboard that filters shovelware games. Would be interesting to see whos number 1.
There is on truetrophies, maybe I’ll cover that at some point
Even if I did many easy platinums or 100% and harder ones I never want to be in a leaderboard, I use websites to research what games I wanna play. The lesson I learned is those not 100% is where I quit because either they're time-consuming and also too heavily grindy or just too impossible I do not wish to be more burnout.
I decided to do quality games to 100% I reach that honeymoon phase and I can say my backlogs of 200+ games will be serviceable.
Hakoom will go down in history. There will be monuments built in his honour
I’ve already got one in my bathroom
Ever since I got flagged from the leaderboards for trophy hacking from the Vita and reached lvl 999 I felt like the weights lifting off my shoulders, now I can show off my friends my trophy level and still enjoy playing videogames.
I've had about 8 or 9 PSN accounts so half of my hard earn trophies are scattered all over. I've recently restarted on my platinum run and I can honestly say it's not fun after a while, but I can't stop until I get super bored. The one I miss is F.E.A.R. 2 I did so much grinding for that platinum before the servers closed and now on my new account, I can't show off all my hard work.
I don’t always agree with you sir but this video is spot on. I think having 10k plats is respectable and as long as they are having fun that’s what matters.
thanks brah :)
Im at 1680 platinums atm trying to be the best of the Netherlands. now I’m at place 17 of it. But yes I understand that the easy games is ruining it a bit and is not very rewarding but yeah if a game is in a sale instead of €4 it’s like €2 than I always buy them . I have like 80% games that you can complete in like 1/2 hours but I also love the grind for very hard games . Like call of duty’s fifa and now trying to go for gta 5 and I always think it’s fun that every 50 games is like a milestone on psnprofiles so I do at least every 50 games 1 game that is like under 10/15% so that looks a bit nicer I think
The only easy Platinum I’ve got is Storm Boy but the game is no where near being a shovelware game. It’s based on an Australian children’s book and is made by an indie Australian game studio. The game is like a playable storybook and is such a beautiful game. I actually cried during the ending of it. It may be one you can do in 30 minutes but I don’t think it is anyway near being a shovelware. It’s beautiful and if you’re Australian or have ever read the book or seen the film the game is a must play.
I gave up on the leaderboards long ago when I saw a video of yours talking about this situation then. Sony’s never gonna do extensive “quality control” of these leaderboards, because they create revenue for them since they take a 30% cut of the sales of these games. Money is king.
As much as I watch trophy content I’m by no means a hunter. Got a list of games I want the plat, WRC, Uncharyed 2,3,4Lost legacy (have 1), Cyberpunk, Mafia 2/3(have 1) but I just take my time with it and don’t stress it at all. I think that’s why it’s still exciting for me
Hakoom's Last of Us is autopopped to the platinum, the 7 hours best time you are looking at is for 100% (DLC included). Nothing unusual.
Makes sense
how about the uncharted vita list synced years later?
Good to see a fellow Geordie platinum fan
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I only play games I’m going to enjoy currently trying to platinum the whole trails series 😅 as long as I’m having fun I just don’t care how long I take. The last time I went hard was getting 3 plats I did every Tokyo rpg factory game before they got removed in January/ February this year
Trails or Trials? If you mean trials 100% in Trials Fusion is impossible at the moment because of the track central doesn’t work. I looking almost every day since months .
Best way
I have just started trophy hunting about a year ago (currently sitting at 7 platinums because im usually busy). I only go for games that I enjoy apart from one which was bunny raiders, i did it a year ago found it so unenjoyable that i stopped and then did it last week because it was sitting at 90% and i just wanted it over and done with
A problem I’ve had since starting is not enjoying games, halfway through a hunt I’ll have to stop and tell myself to enjoy the game
I could never imagine having 10,000 games platinums I can only do the ones I enjoy
i love your content man, keep it going
thanks! that means the world to me xxxxxx
5:30 Actually, Fortunato is from Brasil, which is indeed a South American country, but show Brasil some love man, we have a big trophy hunting community.
hahaha my bad, i was just reading his bio tbf
I wish Sony would implement something to indicate you beat the game. Once the credits roll and there is nothing else I would like to do I prefer to move on. Not every game you beat awards you with a gold trophy so a tick for beating the game would be ideal. I do it with an excel sheet but would like to show off on my profile what games I've beaten.
I try for platinums, but I'm am not going to force myself to play crappy games just for a platinum, I also hate platinums that require you to play game again, i just don't have the time
Just catching up on all the videos after returning from holiday. The leaderboards are not for me. I wouldn’t get any pleasure out of playing those types of games but like you said in the video “each to their own”. If all shovel ware games were removed then it would be interesting to see what that leaderboard looked like.
I finished Hogwarts Legacy. Took me 80 hrs. The collectibles were excessive but overall I thought the game was pretty good quality. I enjoyed the combat, the puzzles and the general exploration. Have you bought any new games recently?
I've been on xbox now for the past 2 years and haven't touched playstation since, and it's definitely sad to see so many awful games that only exist for the sake of platinum trophies. Anyway great video!
Some people share the same account and set a schedule to platinum games in cooperation while the other guy is sleeping or working. These lunatics want to get at the top for no reason, if sony recognized the top 10 platinum owners and gifted them with PS+ for free or something I would get it
sure but he doesnt do that you can easily tell if you look at his timeline of trophies earned per hour average you can see when he sleeps.
i think it probably is doable solo now the plats are so fast
I'm proud of my 127
you should be
@@PlatinumBro I have only a few fast ones, that I gifted myself for doing really grueling ones
Long grinds can still be impressive. It's the determination and mental strength that carries most people through it. If it were an AFK grind then that's something different
i agree but if long grinds are impressive, so is grinding out all these easy platinum trophies
I do platinums for myself and fun, but my long term goal is to eventually submit myself to hopefully have it reviewed by some platinum UA-camrs. I’m not there yet but that’s a medium or long term goal to keep In to r back of my mind.
best way my dude
I keep trying to play games just to enjoy them but my trophy brain won’t let me. It’s stoped me from playing highly rated games for the first time and replayed games I’ve enjoyed in the past.
This stuff is such a weird numbers games. I try to platinum every game I play, unless its a ridiculous grind or I just find it far too difficult to do. But its such a time sink, especially if you're playing bigger or longer games. I sort of feel like getting platinum for those crappy 'mini games' shouldn't count. You might be able to platinum a game in a single day, but others can take weeks. I genuinely don't understand how people have the time or the money, and that's coming from someone who games every evening after work. I have less than 50 plats. Its madness lol
To be honest I don't care about leaderboards, it's impressive to look at some others players every now and then but I want to have fun before anything else. I usually don't go for the very grindy trophies or the ultra hard ones but every now and then I put myself in that situation, mostly when I really love a game or when I have a "need" for a challenge, otherwise I'm just having fun.
if you want to be the best at anything you have to invest time and effort.
@@MrUnknown310x Yeah of course, I never said that they don't put a lot of effort or money but it's not for me
This sort of trophy hunting is just ludicrous to me. I'm a trophy hunter myself...but mostly because of my OCD😂 But I don't choose games for their ease of platinum, I platinum the games I wanna play and are worth my time.
I have platinums that took only a few hours, like Life is Strange...but also ones that took 500h+, like Monster Hunter World/Iceborne, or White Knight Chronicles and even MMOs, like FFXIV and PSO2 that took 1kh+😅
I only have a ps3 and most of the games I have don’t even have trophies available. So most of my games I 100% are on steam and after 9 years I have around 8 100% games. I very rarely go for 100% on games, but I do plan to go for more.
For me trophy hunting is something I like to do for me - an extra challenge I set for myself to complete in games that I enjoy. This is the only way trophy hunting stays fun for me. Trying to get on the leaderboard is pointless with all the shovelware. The games themselves should be at the forefront.
fair play bro me too
When I platted Slyder, in 24 seconds, i just remember feeling like a dirty little schlag.
You'd have to be a proper mad-lad with a barren field of fcuks to spend so much time doing this. It's a mixture of crazy and impressive.
you dorty schlag, i felt the same hahaha
Yeah some platinums are fun and some aren't. At the end of the day, hardly anyone will care if I have 50 platinums or 5000.
Haha so so true
8:08 Disagree here, the devs making shovelware for a cash grab is a much more understandable motive (e.g. they could have a family) than the "trophy hunters" who consume them for... what?
Regardless of my mood today my
Goal is to always pass Hakoom. Hopefully before Christmas. Lol
god speed, you got this
It's possible he stopped grinding easy games
Spreading the word.
Pocket PSN 👀
😂
I just always wondered about the PSN advent calendar campaign where they convert trophy points into raffle tickets. I mean, the guys on top of the leaderboard actually should win everything? :D
Hahaha they definitely would hahaha
I’ve gotten 16 platinums ever since I got my ps5 back in March 23 2023, I go for it if I like the game, simple as that. If I obsess with it i know I’ll be miserable.
Best way man
seeing Hakoom way down the list makes me sad. good dude. but i know he has kids now so probably doesnt play as much anymore. good for him
the OG has gone, times are a-changing
"ultra rare trophies, there was a time when they were really impressive but it depends on the context of the game and they used to mean something"
They were honestly always like this tho, albeit less abundant, even back in the early trophy days, so many "hard" or "skilled" ultra rares are actually mindless grinds.
maybe so, just took me longer to realise ha
I would say i was & still half am a trophy hunter, however this year my views are changing as for me the fun is being sucked out by mundane tasks or long grinds and for what reason. I recently got a xbox 360 just to play games to enjoy without looking at lists/guides or difficulty because the realisation is i am missing out on some fantastic games because of this. My view now is to play the game what every difficulty level i can manage to the credits & consider the game done unless i really enjoy it and what to do everything. My compulsive thing now is collecting games which from other youtubers like Retroghetto & Cayle i am enjoying more (apart from the spending) lol but going around hunting for games & collections is bringing some love back for gaming for me, but each are to their own & do what makes you happy
I'm playing more handheld games on the go and Nintendo titles for the same reason and I enjoy the freedom that comes with it 😊😊 I don't have time for multiple 100 plus open world grindy games anymore, I simply just don't have the time for it
I’m in the exact same boat as you, that’s why I started smite and Pokémon
Even hakoom got sick of the shovelware plats lol
hahaha he really did - he was from a different time, when an easy platinum took 7 hours, not 7 seconds
Maybe you could review my trophy list after I beat Hakoom, get more Triple A Platinums and Ultra Rares! Lol
not a bad idea bro x
i just got my 39th platinum and am currently basing my next game on what is in my backlog for trophy number 40 but i have at least 4 games where i am really close to the platinum but am being held back by dumb reason - e.g mortal kombat 11 unable to complete the strategy tutorial, fall guys the squad goals trophy, crash bandicoot games i suck at the time trials
Seeing the same stack of games 7 times in a list with a near 100% completion rate just looks ugly, i have done some of these back in 2021but when i realised that more and more were coming i just stopped, i regret those platinums now, i only go for actual games.
yeah haha it's pretty gnarly ha
Don’t regret your history. I made over 100 Ratalaika games as well but I HAD really fun with that a while ago. Now I stopped because it’s got boring but it’s history of your account. Don’t regret
I enjoy going for platinums and going for the 100% on all the games on my account. Couldn’t care less about the leaderboards though. I don’t even have my psn linked to profiles
i wouldn't bother haha
how do they calculate the level U R is it rarity # or trophy score that they use 2 calculate you'r level
I'm curious to know how much money each one of those players wasted in shovelware games
a lot hahaha
@@PlatinumBro $25k is generous those VNs aren't cheap I would say closer to $10 per game on average so over $100k in total lol
Only Shovelware I have is My Name is Mayo 1&2 and even then that was my brother who did those games on my account to mess with my trophy list 😆.
Sitting at 196 platinums right now that are mostly some of my favorite games. Only a few (like Beyond Two Souls) are games I genuinely didn’t enjoy and just wanted to up my completion rate.
They aren’t shovelware, those games are icon
I find it annoying that some games require you to love them to get the platinum (do all the content) yet some require you to eventually hate the game (ridiculous challenges that dont share identity with the main game).
Sekiro platinum is a pleasure. RE4 remake demands you give everything to it and mainline it lol.
I think at this point is an addiction. Most of these games are even games. There was once a time I was pulling 15-20 plats a month (hell I think I pulled at least 50 during the 2022 Discord Challenge which was more than double most people) and most of those were Ratalaika or easier indie titles. Now I'm pulling 5-6 plats a month and I'm happy with that.
I think that’s definitely apart of it but also if people just wanna get as high as possible and enjoy the hunt and are competitive I think that’s very understandable as well
Decent, insightful vid. I actually feel a bit sorry for these guys, it's clearly an unhealthy, expensive addiction. They probably started off enjoying it, but I imagine it is just a massive chore now.
Thanks! I have no doubt it’s a very taxing hobby in many ways
i'd love to get more platinum trophies on my profile. Occassionally i will grind through to get them but some of the games i play need sooooo much grinding to get them
The guys are playing games, easy games and stacking them. They however are also playing substantial games in between. I somehow feel that it’s more than one person on each of these high ranking profiles because you literally have to be playing games all the time. They spending money though and that’s what the businessmen want.
Just as we as players created forums like psn to what they are ...maybe one day a forum that scores platinum depending on what they actually are would be the next big thing. At least that would give me personaly kinda a selfinh joy, cause it shouldnt bother me what other choose to play ....i know ....but just saying it would be nice =p
Truetrophies kind of does it but it’s not quite there yet, maybe some day
Don't get me wrong, I have several shovelware plats, and I don't really care about it. But to get to the level of having 100+ of those kinds of games, I just feel like what's the point, it's like just playing the game for the plat. There's so many games where I'm like yeah I'm actually really enjoying this, I'm gonna go for the plat, but then there's others where I'm like yeah nah I've had enough of this game
I get ya. I have finally learnt to leave platinun trophies that aren’t worth it
A while ago i stopped my order for sea of thieves. The game has almost 300 bronze trophies and barely anything else. After a year of playing, i have a total of 450 trophies. I completed as much as i can, and this would completely permanently destroy my account. I know you shouldn't care about stats, but when i put time and care into games i don't want it to go to waste because of a game like this. The trophy struggle is real 😂
Hahaha I’ve been there dude I get it
A solution could be stop count duplicated platinums for the leaderboards.
yeah that's a solid idea tbf buddy
My last platnium was in January😅 took a break and now I've been grinding fs22, I only plat games I enjoy, the stacks is mental😮 poop time😂
rick crying at the hakoom moment, sorry i just couldnt stop laughing 🤣🤣🤣, also what happened to your wrist? you ok bro, dont tell me smites been giving you a hard time
hahahahah i was laughing in the edit ngl
not smite, I've sprained it :( nothing smite related
I wouldn't say I'm competing in the leaderboards I'm just trying to reach the max level on PSN and get the Platinum badge in fact I don't even count these towards my total Platinum I consider myself to have 168 Plats rather then the 1000 plus I have
Those people only care about the leaderboard in some websites and that's why they play those awful shovelware games.
but PSN doesn't have a leaderboard , so just forget about the leaderboard in those websites because it's meaningless.
just play whatever you want and enjoy it , that's the only thing that matters.
you speak like its fact lol that's just your opinion I mean if you want to technical everything is ultimately meaningless lol
Hakoom not being 1 is insane I thought nobody would catch up 27 have wow
How times have changed
I like to think of platinums as something to show off when you do everything in a game and can be competetive, but to spend so much time and money on games that no one is enjoying the gameplay for is kind of dumb. Might as well just sell $1-$5 dollar platinums no gameplay needed. It should be something to be proud of in a game that is well known and respected imo.
The leaderboards are shit to me, so many accounts are flagged for stupidest of reasons then there’s thousands of accounts still in the leaderboards that have clearly cheated
yeah I get that opinion 100%
For being someone with 175 Platinums I'm surprised I'm in the 6000s for country rank ( usa)
noice man