Glad you’re back! Well done as always. Also I never know when to date the first (or second if Lars was victorious) sack of Rome, because I believe Polybius places it around 386, and Livy 390, though there is an offer why Livy might be a few hours off in general. And then other sources between those two years, of course. Either way, well done! And I look forward to the next one! Vae victīs!
Yeah, it really is hard to tell exactly. With the destruction of so many sources and accounts after the sack along with the fact that the portion of Rome that was sacked was continuously rebuilt throughout the centuries we basically have no real idea. That's definitely something I'll spend some time talking about in the next video on the Sack! Thanks for watching and sticking around, I really appreciate it my friend!
Why can Americans not differentiate between Gallic and Gealic 😂 the Gaelic celts came from modern day Ireland something which you’ve gotten completely wrong in your video. You also failed to mention the Picts of modern day northeast Scotland. There were allot more celts than just Gauls and Brittons
For me I grew up in maybe the least education region of America, it literally wasn't until I was in college that I learned that Gallic and Gaelic were pronounced differently to be honest! I still struggle with it even after knowing, my apologies. And yeah I really want to cover some more of the Celts, including as you mentioned the Picts, but I'm trying to do this in a chronological order so I feel like I have to wait until Rome makes it there! Thanks for watching!
You did a not so bad job of a good overview and explanation of the area of the world its basic geographic and topographical nature and of the types of tribal peoples in it all.llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllk,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,mmmmmmmmmllllz ..................................................
I try my best but to be honest with you I really struggle with pronunciation. I'm sure you can tell that I have a pretty thick southern accent and a bit of a lisp so it's always been pretty hard. Sorry if it's a bit jarring but I promise I really am trying! Thanks for sticking through though!
So I am a little confused on your pronunciation regarding what I think is Gallic? But you pronounce it like Gaelic. or are you saying Gaelic? Sorry I am just confused.
Yeah, I should have put a note in this episode. Where I'm from the two are said the same way and really the only way to tell any difference is based on context clues! It'll be corrected in future videos, it's just hard for me to slip out of my accent! I am definitely saying Gallic though. Thanks for watching and sorry about that!
That is meant to refer to Diodorus Siculus, a Greek historian from Sicily. He wrote Bibliotheca Historica, which was this massive historical work that at various points discuses the movement of the Gauls in Europe. I don't really know why I added a G in there but that's who I meant! Thanks for watching!
I should have been a bit clearer there. The group that Rome is about to come into conflict with, a group of Gauls led by Brennus, were not native to Italy. We aren't specifically told where they came from but we do know that they crossed into Italy from the French Alps and we are fairly positive they came from somewhere in central France. So this would technically be the first known battle/conflict between Rome and a non Italian force. Also remember that at this point the Gauls of Cisalpine Gaul were confined to the foothills of the Alps, they probably only barely made it to modern day Milan. It was Brennus and his Gauls that would eventually be the reason the region would be known as Cisalpine Gaul. Hopefully that clears it up! Thanks for watching!
The 1st Punic War occurred in 264 BCE while the war with Brennus and his Gauls occurred in 387 BCE! But yes the Punic Wars were against nonitalian foes, and really was the first war for Rome as a Mediterranean power!
You make great videos covering some very interesting lesser known topics of ancient history. I've really been enjoying listening to them and have become a subscriber. However, your pronounciation is off at times in this video and others, which may be a bit jarring or confusing to some viewers. In this video for example, you pronounce the word "gaulish" as "gaelish." This sounds similar to "gaelic", which refers to the celts of Britain. Another example is your pronounciation of the "La Tène." I have always heard scholars pronounce it as follows: ua-cam.com/video/AyEPXSp4AS4/v-deo.htmlsi=p8fD0AnEWf2gAVII&t=7. I hope I'm not being too nitpicky. Please keep up the good work!
Always happen to have extra guidance in the pronunciation department! It's something I really struggle with so any help is always useful! Thanks for watching!
Still waiting! It is almost finished but I keep finding things that I am not quite happy with and that I think should be expanded on. It should be out in the next week or so though! Thanks for sticking through the wait! I just think it's a very important part of the early history of Rome and I want to make sure I do it justice.
For all of Rome's enemies I hate the Gauls the most. Rubbish fighters, easily defeated bar a couple of battles, were the weakest of Hannibal's army and the biggest pain the pain in the arse for him (they get bored easily and desert a lot) and couldn't keep it together, weakened themselves with infighting. Useless!
Good question! Italian ancestry is going to be much closer to Roman than French would be but remember that multiple groups came in after the fall of the Romans so it gets a little muddled during those centuries. The French were a combination of Gaulic, Roman, and a new group named the Franks who were Germanic peoples. But at the root both are probably closer to Romans than Gauls. Thanks for watching!
Why do people insist on viewing ancient historic writers with scepticism? If they could appear in court, their testimony would be enough to find men guilty of murder. These were highly intelligent people. Way smarter than us. Peace.
I don't think they weren't smart, I think that Livy and his fellow writers were concerned with more than just history. Doesn't necessarily mean they were wrong or not worth listening to, just means that we should look a little deeper into what they say rather than simply accepting it at face value. Thanks for watching!
No way this guy only has 730 subscribers, was expecting at least 10k
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Great video as always! I can't wait for the video on the Gallic sack of Rome!
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Glad you’re back! Well done as always. Also I never know when to date the first (or second if Lars was victorious) sack of Rome, because I believe Polybius places it around 386, and Livy 390, though there is an offer why Livy might be a few hours off in general. And then other sources between those two years, of course. Either way, well done! And I look forward to the next one! Vae victīs!
Yeah, it really is hard to tell exactly. With the destruction of so many sources and accounts after the sack along with the fact that the portion of Rome that was sacked was continuously rebuilt throughout the centuries we basically have no real idea. That's definitely something I'll spend some time talking about in the next video on the Sack! Thanks for watching and sticking around, I really appreciate it my friend!
@@idiottalkshistory also just reread my comment… off by a few years, not hours! Haha
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Great job, thanks!
Why can Americans not differentiate between Gallic and Gealic 😂 the Gaelic celts came from modern day Ireland something which you’ve gotten completely wrong in your video. You also failed to mention the Picts of modern day northeast Scotland. There were allot more celts than just Gauls and Brittons
For me I grew up in maybe the least education region of America, it literally wasn't until I was in college that I learned that Gallic and Gaelic were pronounced differently to be honest! I still struggle with it even after knowing, my apologies. And yeah I really want to cover some more of the Celts, including as you mentioned the Picts, but I'm trying to do this in a chronological order so I feel like I have to wait until Rome makes it there! Thanks for watching!
You did a not so bad job of a good overview and explanation of the area of the world its basic geographic and topographical nature and of the types of tribal peoples in it all.llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllk,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,mmmmmmmmmllllz ..................................................
Don't be afraid to look up words' pronunciations.
I try my best but to be honest with you I really struggle with pronunciation. I'm sure you can tell that I have a pretty thick southern accent and a bit of a lisp so it's always been pretty hard. Sorry if it's a bit jarring but I promise I really am trying! Thanks for sticking through though!
So I am a little confused on your pronunciation regarding what I think is Gallic? But you pronounce it like Gaelic. or are you saying Gaelic? Sorry I am just confused.
Yeah, I should have put a note in this episode. Where I'm from the two are said the same way and really the only way to tell any difference is based on context clues! It'll be corrected in future videos, it's just hard for me to slip out of my accent! I am definitely saying Gallic though. Thanks for watching and sorry about that!
@@idiottalkshistory duely understood. Thanks for the clarification lad. Love the content, keep it up!
I might be wrong and it’s a small matter but at 7:11 was the reference to Diogenes meant to be Dionysius or is there a different Diogenes
That is meant to refer to Diodorus Siculus, a Greek historian from Sicily. He wrote Bibliotheca Historica, which was this massive historical work that at various points discuses the movement of the Gauls in Europe. I don't really know why I added a G in there but that's who I meant! Thanks for watching!
0:25 soooo cisalpine gauls aren't native to italy now?
I should have been a bit clearer there. The group that Rome is about to come into conflict with, a group of Gauls led by Brennus, were not native to Italy. We aren't specifically told where they came from but we do know that they crossed into Italy from the French Alps and we are fairly positive they came from somewhere in central France. So this would technically be the first known battle/conflict between Rome and a non Italian force. Also remember that at this point the Gauls of Cisalpine Gaul were confined to the foothills of the Alps, they probably only barely made it to modern day Milan. It was Brennus and his Gauls that would eventually be the reason the region would be known as Cisalpine Gaul. Hopefully that clears it up! Thanks for watching!
@@idiottalkshistory maybe i'm missing something, but werent the punic wars against a nonitalian foe?
The 1st Punic War occurred in 264 BCE while the war with Brennus and his Gauls occurred in 387 BCE! But yes the Punic Wars were against nonitalian foes, and really was the first war for Rome as a Mediterranean power!
@@idiottalkshistory Thank you for clearing that up, that makes sense
You make great videos covering some very interesting lesser known topics of ancient history. I've really been enjoying listening to them and have become a subscriber. However, your pronounciation is off at times in this video and others, which may be a bit jarring or confusing to some viewers. In this video for example, you pronounce the word "gaulish" as "gaelish." This sounds similar to "gaelic", which refers to the celts of Britain. Another example is your pronounciation of the "La Tène." I have always heard scholars pronounce it as follows: ua-cam.com/video/AyEPXSp4AS4/v-deo.htmlsi=p8fD0AnEWf2gAVII&t=7.
I hope I'm not being too nitpicky. Please keep up the good work!
Always happen to have extra guidance in the pronunciation department! It's something I really struggle with so any help is always useful! Thanks for watching!
Am i blind? Or are we still waiting for the sack of rome video? Im watching the playlist of Roman history and i dont see it on the list.
Still waiting! It is almost finished but I keep finding things that I am not quite happy with and that I think should be expanded on. It should be out in the next week or so though! Thanks for sticking through the wait! I just think it's a very important part of the early history of Rome and I want to make sure I do it justice.
@@idiottalkshistory hell yeah! I'm happy to wait for a quality video.
For all of Rome's enemies I hate the Gauls the most. Rubbish fighters, easily defeated bar a couple of battles, were the weakest of Hannibal's army and the biggest pain the pain in the arse for him (they get bored easily and desert a lot) and couldn't keep it together, weakened themselves with infighting. Useless!
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Were French and Italian gauls or Roman
Good question! Italian ancestry is going to be much closer to Roman than French would be but remember that multiple groups came in after the fall of the Romans so it gets a little muddled during those centuries. The French were a combination of Gaulic, Roman, and a new group named the Franks who were Germanic peoples. But at the root both are probably closer to Romans than Gauls. Thanks for watching!
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tf the french are far closer to gauls than roman and other way around for italians
Why do people insist on viewing ancient historic writers with scepticism? If they could appear in court, their testimony would be enough to find men guilty of murder. These were highly intelligent people. Way smarter than us. Peace.
I don't think they weren't smart, I think that Livy and his fellow writers were concerned with more than just history. Doesn't necessarily mean they were wrong or not worth listening to, just means that we should look a little deeper into what they say rather than simply accepting it at face value. Thanks for watching!