Thank you for your tests. I have put Osram CBIs in my Lexus and have been very satisfied ever since. High beams are hardly ever needed, even on a completely dark road, combined with the AFS, the light output is absolutely excellent.
Amazing video. I would like to see a comparison between Philips White Vision gen 2, Philips e-xtreme Vision gen 2 and Osram Night Braker Laser. Also I would like to see how an LED bulb perform in a xenon projector.
Great video. People also need to take into consideration headlamp restoration. Even with best headlight bulbs, the output still can be bad. I just bought Orginal OSRAM, and the money that I saved by buying cheaper ones, will use them to do the restoration.
Your videos kept showing up in my searches. Before I even watched one, I thought to myself, it would be cool if an engineer evaluated bulbs and other products like this. And here you are, a quality automotive engineer haha. Glad to see it! Great content!
Great, informative video as ever. An observation - I don't recall it being mentioned that the light output and colour temp of all these bulbs will change after a 'burn in' period. This can be anywhere from 200 to 500 hours and the light output typically improves after this time. Could you perform another test to demonstrate this? And compare new, out the box performance with performance from the same bulb, after it's 'burn in' period? Keep up the great work.
Thanks very much for your time, an objective test like this surely took a long time. I was going to buy the most expensive Osram bulb, but will now search for the classic D1S instead. My present Xenon bulbs in my 2008 are the original and now some 16 years old! I'm sure the new bulbs will make a significant difference.
Very good comparison. Maybe for the next test in addition to the new Osram bulbs, try adding some other brands or chinese xenon bulbs, just for comparing the numbers. Thank you for your work.
Excellent work my friend as always.. I have been importing HID’s for almost 12 years, and my supplier manufactures both Phillips and Osram. And also a cheaper brand, I have tried LED’s but I believe the manufacturer always over run them by voltage so the delaminates from the cooling surface and in my experience Xenon. Last longer than Led and also makes a better light output beam than LED, and the longevity between LED and HID the xenon is far more superior and better value for money on the long run, I have had ballasts and bulb failure with HID and one should make sure not to buy a DC ballast but rather an AC as it’s more gentle on on the bulbs, Just for fact sake I am still using my original set of HID’s in my Fiat and it is going 13 years now and for a long time it was my preferred vehicle for night driving, maybe I should look into replacing bulbs 😀 with new stock. I should
I did the Sylvania H13 LED and I absolutely love them! True plug and play and I didn’t even have to re-aim. I can see at least twice as far than the stock halogens. They already paid for themselves by letting me see a line of deer soon enough to safely brake.
This has been massively helpful. I have just had to replace my cheep Chinese hid bulbs with the phillps cool blue ones. The old ones where burnout after a year
Another thing that plays a big factor besides old bulbs or poor condition lenses is the lights projector. Very common on E39 BMW 5 series xenon lights for the chrome plating on the projector to go dull and even be burned after many years of use. Tearing down the light and replacing the projector with a high quality one like Morimoto along with new high quality bulbs such as Osrams or Phillips and new lenses gives insanely amazing results.
👍 Good stuff! Your graph on the wall is awesome information. Providing the numbers after the 20 min heat saturation time is VERY important. On the road longer trips are where being able to see is most important as the speeds are higher and being aware sooner can save your life.
Happy to see the test results. A bit over a year ago, I needed to replace one bulb in my car and it seems that previous owner had Osram Original and I bought the same as only one side needed a bulb. If I would need both bulbs, I would definitely purchased Night Breaker Laser.
You've answered a question I have been battling with for a while , which was : is it REALLY worth it spending that extra $$ on the premium/top-of-the-range product for a (huge/marginal?) gain in brightness? Now I am a Subscriber to your channel, for life :)
@Sergiu Gabor Couple of things to mention. 1 . You are using only one bulb, and 10 bulbs of the same brand and model behave differently. This stands for different batches as well. 2. You need to test in high beam, because the base of the bulb can be off by a milimeter or less, but that moves the hotspot and one bulb can produce less light but due to focal point hot spot can be when in low beam. Another bulb that produce more light can have its hotspot shifted to the area which is reserved for high beam, but the lux meter will read less light in low beam compared to the dimmer bulb. 3. Different light meters ARE sensitive differently to different kelvin reading. Given LUX meter can be sensitive ot 4500k and not so much to 5500k. 4. Different bulbs behave differently based on the lens used. There are some coated lens that give advantage to bulbs with 4300k. Like the Hella F1. 5. What you are measuring is the light output measured by lux meter. What you actually care is vissible light, as light spectrum is wider than what human eyes can see. Its about the light produced in visible spectrum. 6. You are missing the Cool blue boost.
how can they vary between batches so badly, no quality control? Also, He said cool blue boost wasnt road legal and was too blue, (and probably dimmer) so he said he wouldnt test it.
@@rmat9023 #2 But do you normally drive in high beam? I think measuring the high beam would be redundant here. I made some numerical analysis and put it in comments section. #4 I think lens is independant of the blub, so the test setup is correct,
More colour, I think refers to its CIR. Colour rendering index. 98 is high and means that colours will be represented quite accurately, without cast or dullness.
WAUW this is good information and save me money. This is good information test Osram and the video made a good case for choosing the classic. Dit is goede informatie test Osram en de video heeft de keuze voor de classic goed onderbouwd
speaking of nightbreaker osram makes an h7 nightbreaker led and its legal in germany in certain vehicles would like to see you test it if you can acquire a set
one of the best lighting systems i have driven is from 2012 Volvo V50 With Bixenon + LED Highbeams witch all so included automatic curve lights. Each time i started the car it calibrated the headlights. Up down left and right witch was friking amazing.
amazing presentation, thank you very much. personally i went for the cool blue intesnse which i found at the price of 92 euros (Greece). Again thank you
Allegedly, in Iceland, if you want to retrofit a Xenon headlight into your car, you can do so, and you do not need any washers or the auto levelling sensors, as long as the Kelvin temperature isn't above 7000K they don't care lol
here in Philippines, you can do whatever you want. As long as it is color Yellow or white. And law enforcers are only available to apprehend motorist from around 6am to 5pm. after that yo free. LOL
Here in the states, the only truly legal way to obtain HID or LED headlamps is to purchase a vehicle that comes stock with them from the factory. Plug in play crap is definitely illegal, but retrofits are no more legal than plug in play which IMO is absolutely ridiculous. However, depending on which state you live in determines the laws and how much they are enforced.
Sergiu Gabor: Your videos are very good. You are a Professional! It would be nice to see a video of how much brightness xenon bulbs lose over their lifetime.
Excelente video. Una verdadera comparación, con hechos y datos. Derriba mucha mentira que circula en youtube. En mi experiencia, debo decir que ayer precisamente, instalé los Osram night brake laser (NBL). El resultado frente a los que tenía originales, fueron los mejores. Tuve que conducir bajo condiciones extremas, neblina densa (no se veía a mas de 5 mt), lluvia intensa, carretera muy oscura. Y los bombillos Osram NBL se comportaron muy bien. Pude conducir sin problema. Solo me falta averiguar su durabilidad. Que hay mejores tecnologías, claro que las hay. Pero para mi presupuesto y las características de mi vehículo, es lo mejor que pude tener
Thanks a lot, helped me to decide to buy the basic osram xenon bulbs to replace the tired ones in my car. I do have to say tho situation is slightly different with halogen, where OSRAM CBI bulbs are considerably much "better" (not that yellow) looking than the classic/standard ones. And the price difference between halogen standard is CBI is not that crazy either if comparing to the different Xenon's. Also the same above mentioned Osram CBI bulbs almost perfectly match the stock xenon colour spectrum, in case you need to replace yours. Done this to all of my xenon-equipped cars (VW mostly)
Hope all is well with you, Sergiu. And that you come back at some point. I'm a lighting geek and I miss your content. Anyway, in regards to the Osram Classic and Original, it's clear that while the Original is not as bright, it handles side illumination a bit better than the classic (Original is more even), so I'd call it a wash between the two. That is probably the improvement Osram touts and why the Classic was discontinued.
It's great that you use a used headlight. It may not show the full performance of the new xenon lights, but realistic speaking if you need an replacement your headlights are used. As you won't buy new headlights with new bulbs it shows an realistic estimated performance.
Wow this was the best practical video about a HID bulb and more of the useful information instead of being a lecture 😁 The interest persists upon LED vs HID bulbs as to which one is suitable for different conditions like Monsoons, Winter, Clear roads etc. Also the type of project needed for the different types of bulbs and their differences. Cheers ✌️
Nice video. When you tested the colour temperatur and brightness were the bulbs already burned in? Because they always get brighter after 10-15 hrs when they burned in. Thanks and greats Matthias😀
Such a professional video. From the camera angles, to the explanations, you’re a great presenter!
Lithuanian subscriber here, thank you very much for this video, im also in search of best value of xenon bulbs, this video is gold :) keep it up.
Thank you for your tests. I have put Osram CBIs in my Lexus and have been very satisfied ever since. High beams are hardly ever needed, even on a completely dark road, combined with the AFS, the light output is absolutely excellent.
Seriously!? 😂 Yesterday I was looking for this content on your channel, because one of my xenon bulps is broken 😄 Now this gap is filled, good job! 👍
Sergiu killing it as always!
Amazing video.
I would like to see a comparison between Philips White Vision gen 2, Philips e-xtreme Vision gen 2 and Osram Night Braker Laser.
Also I would like to see how an LED bulb perform in a xenon projector.
Great video. People also need to take into consideration headlamp restoration. Even with best headlight bulbs, the output still can be bad. I just bought Orginal OSRAM, and the money that I saved by buying cheaper ones, will use them to do the restoration.
Your videos kept showing up in my searches. Before I even watched one, I thought to myself, it would be cool if an engineer evaluated bulbs and other products like this. And here you are, a quality automotive engineer haha. Glad to see it! Great content!
Great, informative video as ever. An observation - I don't recall it being mentioned that the light output and colour temp of all these bulbs will change after a 'burn in' period. This can be anywhere from 200 to 500 hours and the light output typically improves after this time. Could you perform another test to demonstrate this? And compare new, out the box performance with performance from the same bulb, after it's 'burn in' period?
Keep up the great work.
Thanks for the hard work you led segment really help me on the purchase.
You are pure gold my friend! If only 1% of YT reviewers made comparisons like this the world would be a utopia
Thank you so much! You just saved me a lot of €€ and bought a set of Osram Classic's 👍
Very high quality videos these, those views through the welding glass looked fantastic!
Big thanks! i have chosen OSRAM XENARC - Night Breaker.
Thanks very much for your time, an objective test like this surely took a long time. I was going to buy the most expensive Osram bulb, but will now search for the classic D1S instead. My present Xenon bulbs in my 2008 are the original and now some 16 years old! I'm sure the new bulbs will make a significant difference.
Very good comparison. Maybe for the next test in addition to the new Osram bulbs, try adding some other brands or chinese xenon bulbs, just for comparing the numbers. Thank you for your work.
Excellent work my friend as always..
I have been importing HID’s for almost 12 years, and my supplier manufactures both Phillips and Osram. And also a cheaper brand,
I have tried LED’s but I believe the manufacturer always over run them by voltage so the delaminates from the cooling surface and in my experience Xenon. Last longer than Led and also makes a better light output beam than LED, and the longevity between LED and HID the xenon is far more superior and better value for money on the long run,
I have had ballasts and bulb failure with HID and one should make sure not to buy a DC ballast but rather an AC as it’s more gentle on on the bulbs,
Just for fact sake I am still using my original set of HID’s in my Fiat and it is going 13 years now and for a long time it was my preferred vehicle for night driving, maybe I should look into replacing bulbs 😀 with new stock.
I should
I did the Sylvania H13 LED and I absolutely love them! True plug and play and I didn’t even have to re-aim. I can see at least twice as far than the stock halogens. They already paid for themselves by letting me see a line of deer soon enough to safely brake.
This is what I call a real, straightforward scientific test. THANK YOU!
Bravo, Sergiu! Super idee cu redarea inregistrarii testelor in paralel cu momentul sponsorului!
This has been massively helpful. I have just had to replace my cheep Chinese hid bulbs with the phillps cool blue ones. The old ones where burnout after a year
Awesome video :D , keep them coming :D
VERY, VERY GOOD comparison!!!
Another thing that plays a big factor besides old bulbs or poor condition lenses is the lights projector. Very common on E39 BMW 5 series xenon lights for the chrome plating on the projector to go dull and even be burned after many years of use. Tearing down the light and replacing the projector with a high quality one like Morimoto along with new high quality bulbs such as Osrams or Phillips and new lenses gives insanely amazing results.
👍 Good stuff! Your graph on the wall is awesome information. Providing the numbers after the 20 min heat saturation time is VERY important. On the road longer trips are where being able to see is most important as the speeds are higher and being aware sooner can save your life.
Amazing, thank you for taking the time to review and compare.
Happy to see the test results. A bit over a year ago, I needed to replace one bulb in my car and it seems that previous owner had Osram Original and I bought the same as only one side needed a bulb. If I would need both bulbs, I would definitely purchased Night Breaker Laser.
Thanks Sergiu. Helping us get past the advertising claims
You've answered a question I have been battling with for a while , which was : is it REALLY worth it spending that extra $$ on the premium/top-of-the-range product for a (huge/marginal?) gain in brightness? Now I am a Subscriber to your channel, for life :)
Thnak you for the test, just ordered Classics.
I can't like the video twice but I can post a comment. Good job, Sergiu!
Keep it going!
Best video about light ever made!!!! Thanks.
Such a great, straightforward comparison. Thanks!
Tank you very much. You saved me a lot of money. And this was the first good comparison I’ve seen. Subscription made. 😎
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Excellent testing, review, and presentation of the results. Thank you!
Hi, Thank you very much for testing those bulbs - great video and well explained!
This was an awesome video. Super informative and helpful. I hope there’s a video on the Phillips bulbs next. Especially the xtreme vision gen 2 😊 👍🏾
great video again ! alot of us is waiting for Indicators comparison !
Thanks man. Clear and detailed, well presented. Appreciate this, have subscribed.
@Sergiu Gabor
Couple of things to mention.
1 . You are using only one bulb, and 10 bulbs of the same brand and model behave differently. This stands for different batches as well.
2. You need to test in high beam, because the base of the bulb can be off by a milimeter or less, but that moves the hotspot and one bulb can produce less light but due to focal point hot spot can be when in low beam. Another bulb that produce more light can have its hotspot shifted to the area which is reserved for high beam, but the lux meter will read less light in low beam compared to the dimmer bulb.
3. Different light meters ARE sensitive differently to different kelvin reading. Given LUX meter can be sensitive ot 4500k and not so much to 5500k.
4. Different bulbs behave differently based on the lens used. There are some coated lens that give advantage to bulbs with 4300k. Like the Hella F1.
5. What you are measuring is the light output measured by lux meter. What you actually care is vissible light, as light spectrum is wider than what human eyes can see. Its about the light produced in visible spectrum.
6. You are missing the Cool blue boost.
how can they vary between batches so badly, no quality control? Also, He said cool blue boost wasnt road legal and was too blue, (and probably dimmer) so he said he wouldnt test it.
@@rmat9023 #2 But do you normally drive in high beam? I think measuring the high beam would be redundant here. I made some numerical analysis and put it in comments section.
#4 I think lens is independant of the blub, so the test setup is correct,
Excelente video amigo, te sigo siempre Saludos desde Argentina .
Great video brother!
Thank you very much Sergiu for all your efforts.
Excellent video. Your videos keep getting better and better
More colour, I think refers to its CIR. Colour rendering index. 98 is high and means that colours will be represented quite accurately, without cast or dullness.
This video is so good! thank you!
The way, you explain is excellent.. 👍 Keep it..
wow, such detailed video on such a niche topic, liked it ver much
Perfect demonstration 👍👍👍
thank you! your story helped in choosing.
Excellent review! Thank you!
Great control on the tests , nice work , keep up
Amazing comparison. I'm also curious about chinese bulbs, sukioto and stuff. Maybe you can add them for the next episode.
Really interesting :) Do a similar test with Philips lineup too if possible :)
WAUW this is good information and save me money. This is good information test Osram and the video made a good case for choosing the classic. Dit is goede informatie test Osram en de video heeft de keuze voor de classic goed onderbouwd
speaking of nightbreaker osram makes an h7 nightbreaker led and its legal in germany in certain vehicles would like to see you test it if you can acquire a set
Excellent comparison
one of the best lighting systems i have driven is from 2012 Volvo V50 With Bixenon + LED Highbeams witch all so included automatic curve lights. Each time i started the car it calibrated the headlights. Up down left and right witch was friking amazing.
Thanks might, it gave me a clear vision 😊
Great video. Can you do a comparison with the Philips range? How does the Nightbreaker compare with the Philips xtreme vision Gen 2?
these to me are my B choice. if budget is no issue then Philip's. if you want to go bang for buck. this is the brand
Philips diamond vision h4 bulb review?
Thank you for your work it helps a lot
Very good and informative video.
awesome comparison, thanks!
Exatly the info i was looking for
amazing presentation, thank you very much. personally i went for the cool blue intesnse which i found at the price of 92 euros (Greece). Again thank you
Fine Test! Great Job! Thanks!
Great video thank you Sergiu.
Renault Vel Satis headlamp unit. Great video for me as I own a Vel Satis and have family members with Vel Satis too.
Allegedly, in Iceland, if you want to retrofit a Xenon headlight into your car, you can do so, and you do not need any washers or the auto levelling sensors, as long as the Kelvin temperature isn't above 7000K they don't care lol
here in Philippines, you can do whatever you want. As long as it is color Yellow or white. And law enforcers are only available to apprehend motorist from around 6am to 5pm. after that yo free. LOL
@@MiniSaging where my wife is from in the Philippines (ilocos norte) they often just bribe teachers to give a license lol
Audi A4 B9 comes from factory with xenon headlights without washers.
Here in the states, the only truly legal way to obtain HID or LED headlamps is to purchase a vehicle that comes stock with them from the factory. Plug in play crap is definitely illegal, but retrofits are no more legal than plug in play which IMO is absolutely ridiculous. However, depending on which state you live in determines the laws and how much they are enforced.
@@dylangajdosik964 That sucks, even if you fit the OEM stuff like Auto levelling sensors and headlight washers?
Awesome work! Thanks you so much!
Awesome vid and testing, thanks
Sergiu Gabor: Your videos are very good. You are a Professional! It would be nice to see a video of how much brightness xenon bulbs lose over their lifetime.
Excelente video. Una verdadera comparación, con hechos y datos. Derriba mucha mentira que circula en youtube. En mi experiencia, debo decir que ayer precisamente, instalé los Osram night brake laser (NBL). El resultado frente a los que tenía originales, fueron los mejores. Tuve que conducir bajo condiciones extremas, neblina densa (no se veía a mas de 5 mt), lluvia intensa, carretera muy oscura. Y los bombillos Osram NBL se comportaron muy bien. Pude conducir sin problema. Solo me falta averiguar su durabilidad. Que hay mejores tecnologías, claro que las hay. Pero para mi presupuesto y las características de mi vehículo, es lo mejor que pude tener
Thank you for the video. Just got my new van with Xenons and I was interested to see what are my options for upgraded bulbs.
Thanks a lot, helped me to decide to buy the basic osram xenon bulbs to replace the tired ones in my car. I do have to say tho situation is slightly different with halogen, where OSRAM CBI bulbs are considerably much "better" (not that yellow) looking than the classic/standard ones. And the price difference between halogen standard is CBI is not that crazy either if comparing to the different Xenon's.
Also the same above mentioned Osram CBI bulbs almost perfectly match the stock xenon colour spectrum, in case you need to replace yours. Done this to all of my xenon-equipped cars (VW mostly)
Great video 👍 I'm interested in the equivalent test for D3S, and testing LEDs that can replace HIDs. Please do more videos and testing 👍🙂
Same, wondering which of the Ali express D3S to purchase and if they really are better than xenons
I agree, will you review the xenons against the led options?
Bravo ! Hi from Belgium 🇧🇪
Another excellent video. Thank you.
Hope all is well with you, Sergiu. And that you come back at some point. I'm a lighting geek and I miss your content. Anyway, in regards to the Osram Classic and Original, it's clear that while the Original is not as bright, it handles side illumination a bit better than the classic (Original is more even), so I'd call it a wash between the two. That is probably the improvement Osram touts and why the Classic was discontinued.
I enjoyed watching your test video.
It's great that you use a used headlight. It may not show the full performance of the new xenon lights, but realistic speaking if you need an replacement your headlights are used. As you won't buy new headlights with new bulbs it shows an realistic estimated performance.
Exactly 😊
Thank's a lot! Great job!
Great video. Easy to follow and logical. Thanks. Like others have suggested the Philips XV would be a welcomed comparison to add.
Fajny test. Właśnie zastanawiałem się nad kupnem Philips Gen2
Wicked video thanks I've just been out and got the osram night breaker d1s bulb thanks
Jo video Gabor
Great video! A video on the halogen bulb lineup would be useful too
Very good and clever lesson 👍
Excelent explanation, thx so much!!!
interesting as usual
Great video, thanks!
Thanks, very good information
Wow this was the best practical video about a HID bulb and more of the useful information instead of being a lecture 😁
The interest persists upon LED vs HID bulbs as to which one is suitable for different conditions like Monsoons, Winter, Clear roads etc. Also the type of project needed for the different types of bulbs and their differences.
Cheers ✌️
4300K OEM HID is great for all weather conditions. It has that warm white light which better penetrates rain, snow, dust particles, etc.
Great video , Next Philips XenonVision, Xenon XtremeVision and Xenon WhiteVision
GREAT! Thank you 🤩
Amazing Content, keep it up
Dobra Robota ! :)
Interesting video.
Thanks!
Nice video. When you tested the colour temperatur and brightness were the bulbs already burned in? Because they always get brighter after 10-15 hrs when they burned in. Thanks and greats Matthias😀