Do you think ASY can become unstoppable this year? As always, here are the timestamps; 00:00 - 00:37 - Introduction 00:37 - 07:16 - Dechapol Doubling Up 07:16 - 12:12 - European Mixed 12:12 - 19:39 - Dejan & Ramadhanti Mixed Hope 19:39 - 25:08 - ASY dominance 25:08 - 34:05 - 2 More NEW Pairs in the Women's Doubles 34:05 - 41:06 - Men's Doubles Final 41:06 - 46:44 - Seo Seung Jae Better With Kang Min-hyuk? 46:44 - 50:52 - Should Aaron Chia and Soh Wooi Yik Split? 50:52 - 52:49 - Arisa Success, Yuta Struggles...interesting topic 52:49 - 56:18 - Viktor’s Performance 56:18 - 01:01:13 - How to Beat ASY 01:01:13 - 01:03:00 - Outro Hope you enjoy the video 😊
Was lucky enough to speak to Roni Augustinus in Delhi at the India open 2025. He said that ASY will not play 500 or below level tournaments for now. So her next tournament will be All England. For now her focus will be big events.
@@BenBeckmanBadminton I beg to differ as KBA is under scrutiny by the Ministry at the moment. They will "milk" all their players for monetary gains as much as possible. They are not the only associations to do so since BWF started this $$$ super series.
Without Yamaguchi on the scene currently and the retirement of TTY, I feel like Chen YF is the only one who can realistically threaten ASY on a more regular basis - we may see flashes in the pan by other players but right now this is the era of ASY
@@BenBeckmanBadminton But ASY is quite formidable. I cannot imagine anyone defeating her in less than 3 games that too for very few players in fit and 100% good form.
ASY has great defence but moreover she has great precision and ability to break the momentum of a well playing opponent. Mental strength+ physical strength+ Skills = Full package 😂
@@BenBeckmanBadminton I'm not sure WZY will be a consistent threat to ASY yet - I know ASY has had a mixed recent H2H record against her (but 9-4 or something overall) but recent losses to WZY have come during/at the tail end of her knee injury... both fully fit I think ASY still wins in 2, more often than not There are some younger players like Tomoka Miyazaki that have a chance but need to establish themselves in the top 10 before you could realistically consider them a contender for the throne
@@Olympic_Updates Agreed - and always thought her biggest strength was the toolbox of threats and counter-punches she had for any kind of opponent she plays against
IMHO... She isn't the type of a player who makes fancy and risky shots, but her ability to stay on the rally thanks to her crazy stamina and athleticism, plus consistent textbook shots (which avoid her from making unnecessary mistakes) forcing the enemy to do mistakes that she often exploits immediately.
For me,both goh and izzuddin became more creative in their gameplay especially goh.As a Malaysian i really love their gameplay,not too extreme and not too soft.
Thank you for the quality analysis, Ben, particularly re: ASY. I agree that Tunjung has the potential to beat ASY through her amazing skills and multilayered deception, provided she continues to become mentally stronger and further continues to improve her stamina. ASY is so tough to beat!
I think now big difference in women single because other player is not capable to defeat ASY because she is her peak level and unstoppable i like her player style
The India Open was interesting. ASY just looks formidable right now. I agree, she can absolutely dominate women's singles this year. I feel the first real challenge she will face will be an evolving Tomoka Miyazaki. She's still a work in progress, and she will not want to reflect at length over how she came apart in her semi final after completely and utterly dominating the first game and a half! That was a horrible defeat from a position where she only needed to trade the remaining rallies in game two and take the win from her opponent. Japan's ladies doubles is really starting to shape up well. It's weird to think of Matsuyama & Shida as their "oldest" pair but both Fukushima & Matsumoto and Sakuramoto & Igarashi are all but fresh out of the box and already hitting winning ways this year! More significantly, all three pairs have quite different styles and strengths meaning that even if their opposition has the "game" to regularly overcome one of them, the other two pairs will pose a serious threat. 2025 will be a huge year for Japanese women's doubles, although that is starting the obvious as we are only a few top level BWF tournaments into the year and these girls have already won Malaysia and India (and that's in spite of Matsuyama & Shida not even beginning their campaign yet, other than comfortably winning the All Japan Championships back in December).
@@gunturalamsyah859 Agreed. Japan just has an abundance of riches in women's doubles right now. Not a unique position for them as, in the past, they have produced outstanding pairs in this discipline. It would be fascinating to explore why and how this nation has evolved to be so strong in women's doubles in recent decades? Could we learn something from their coaching techniques or development pathways? What role does their well established professional leagues play, too?
will probably be at least 3 years before Miyazaki can be a consistent threat to ASY. That semi-final game was so painful to watch......... I do think Miyazaki will dominate eventually though. (Edit: Considering ASY is only 4 years older than Miyazaki, Miyazaki might not have much time to truly shine... we'll see...)
@@evangellydonut miyazaki has more weapon than asy tbh, but asy's consistency is just out of this world. On the other side, miyazaki's ues are comparable to tunjungs when her mental go down
Hi Ben, I don't know if you spoke about it in earlier videos, guidance to rule "Service Undue Delay" (clause 9-1-1 of laws) has been updated end of december : "This means that once players are in a position to serve and receive, any excessive delay is undue delay, whether it is a player holding their hand up indicating they are not ready, standing in a position ready to serve and doing nothing, or the side-to-side motion." It seems Viktor Axelsen applied a bit the rule at the beginning of the tourament, only doing one "side to side" or doing it very quicly compared to his usual pace and seemed it was quite parturbating him. Later in the tournament, he just completely went back to normal... (without any remark of the referee from what I saw).
I know that chenifei declares she will have the time to relax from competitions for about a year shortly after Paris olympics. Also akane yamaguchi has have a little bad condition in her body and forms since 2023. So, now, I think that nobody can stop ASY from winning any games…. In terms of her age(ASY), she will stay her best form at least for 2-3years. In a female single, ASY has a tremendous patience, stamina, and mentality to do any kinds of trainings. I respect her.
In the topic of Gicquel-Delrue, I think that one of their major issue is in the mental side. There are a lot of times where they dominates in first game (or first interval) but ends up losing. I do think that if they start to get a lot of big event win (or winning against big names) they will start to really challenges the top pair. Definitely a good pair, just needs a little oomph.
I vaguely remember that Ramadhanti played mixed doubles when she was at junior level. But I am wholeheartedly agree on Daniel Marthin on XD. I guess one of the main issue is that it's hard to get a good female player. There are a lot of good male players in Indonesia but we're limited on female players. If we're allowed to exchange players with Thailand though.. LOL
Hi Ben, thanks for taking your time to answer my question on whether Aaron SWY should split. A very in-depth and comprehensive analysis on this topic. I particularly love the idea of how to split and pair Aaron Soh with the junior world champion Aaron Kang. But definitely agree that it will be extremely risky to do so
no worries man, was an interesting question and felt there was plenty to talk about surrounding it. Yeah the more I think about it the more I like that idea, I'm just unsure whether or not BAM and the coaches will risk it
Ahh! Thank you, Ben! Great video again (as usual)! And great questions induce great videos, don't they? And for me your videos just have one problem, they are too short. I love the sheer amount of information I get from these videos. Right now I know what my smashes are missing: the correct position of the fingers in the left hand. Where is that image from? I'd like to have it as wallpaper. Did you ever consider to produce your videos without any background music? I find your voice good and you pronounce clearly so I can understand everything without problem. Maybe you give one video a try without music and see what the commentators say? But enough now, before my comment gets longer than your video does! Greetings, Célestin
Too short? Wow...you might be alone there haha. What image are u talking about? And yh, maybe I will try without music in a future episode. Thanks for the support and glad you enjoyed the episode 😊
If she continues at this pace, An Se Young will go down as the objective greatest woman’s single player of all time. People can have their personal GOATs like TTY or CYF, but like with Lin Dan, they will have to recognize that ASY is the objectively greatest of all time.
Although seems very possible that's still a huge IF. Anything can happen. But it's cool to think that we are possibly witnessing the making of the greatest WS player ever
@@BenBeckmanBadmintonI think she already has a hall of fame career and she isn’t even 23 yet… IF she keeps this pace, in 5 years she can retire as the objective GOAT. People can have their personal GOATs, the ones that inspire them most; Marin, TTY, Susi, Ning, Akane, CYF, Bang, Ratchanok, so on and so on, but they will have to acknowledge ASY as the objective GOAT the same way we acknowledge Lin Dan as the objective MS GOAT
Who consider CYF to be the GOAT of WS ? she's not even making it to top 5 2 Greatest Women's Player of All Time as of now in my opinion is Carolina Marin & Zhang Ning. TTY probably would be in my top 3 because of her consistency through the years.
Hey, I'm a little bit curious about your view on the undue delay service rule. It's quite subjective innit? Like should bwf implement a visible service time like the one in tennis to make it more objective?
How to beat ASY. Your advised was realistic but how many can maintain, inject pace & power, recover, repeat the process. Most would be "brain dead" in thinking what to do next during recovery. Not all top players recover at the same rate. She had that. TTY, during her peak was like that. Many believe that high intensity would help develop it but physically, if it's not in you, that's that. In 1983, while going up undulating steps in Seoul, I was pass by a super Ajumma carrying two baskets of food, one in each hand, I was 26 years in age, and she would, in my estimation to be early 40's.
The golden age of women's singles badminton seems to have passed, and I can't help but feel that the current era lacks strength. There was a time when the top 10 to 15 players were seen as equals. When ASY is at her peak, she truly appears unbeatable; even Wang Zhi Yi would find it tough to compete against a fully fit ASY. She is on the path to becoming the greatest of all time, and there doesn't seem to be a significant challenge in her way. Players like TTY, Akane, and Chen Yufei possess the qualities you highlighted to take her on, yet they still appeared to struggle against her.
@@adarshminj2543 IMHO that's an illusion. At the moment we have many upcoming comparatively young players and some older former number 1s. So we have a changing of the guard and ASY happens to be at the top of her game. Basically, she has a super defense, her basic game is more consistent than her opponents and her physical is excellent, plus she has great mental strength. Her attack and speed is not the best in WS.I think if Akane Yamaguchi and ASY are both 100% fit, it's 50:50. I also think ASY's anticipation seems so good is partly because her start jump timing is a little later than most.
@evangellydonut,I completely agree with your perspective. TTY stands out as the greatest women's singles player badminton has ever produced. This isn't just about her titles or head-to-head records; it's about the impact she made on the sport. Her presence elevated the women's game significantly, sparking a surge of interest worldwide. She has garnered immense popularity across the globe. As for ASY, even if she faced off against the likes of prime TTY, Marin, Akane, Okuhara, Sindhu, Chen, Xuerui, Saina, and Intanon, she would likely emerge victorious. However, it’s important to acknowledge that her journey would undoubtedly be more challenging.
I think that see my opinion is that ASY is at her very best when Pursala v sindhu - at her all time low and age factor nearing 30 Ratch. Intanon - struggling as well as we can see and age factor too nearing 30 Marin - broken leg :( TTY - injuries :((((( Chen - disappeared after olympics He bing - idk why she took retirmemt but still wont be finding ways to beat asy sorry for this Okhuara - same as pv and inatnon Actaully okhuara , sindhu and intanon are tripplet sis of 29 years all them going thru lows So now yamaguchi and wang zhi yi , and tunjung but having a terrible head to head To asy 11-0 though but still considering , are her real threats thats it .... But when we see all the players i have named they all clashed at thier prime time and we never forget the chinies dominace which theu prevalied in 2015-2020 So thats my opinion I luv your indept analysisn
10:39 what is precisely is wei’s akward hitting style ? To me it looks like her elbow is always flared and sticking out . I understand she was heavily bandaged this tournament . Maybe it’s something when she played singles ?
It looks awkward to me, almost like she doesn't throw but pushes at it. It is difficult to explain, just looks a bit "off". Sorry not explaining myself well here
@ajeshmail123 I think I'm following. But on top of this Miyazaki needs to develop better shot quality and variation herself. On top of other things too
@@BenBeckmanBadminton Thanks ben. I will too follow with you. With your breakout videos my learning and passion for this sport faster than ever. Thank you so much
Actually those are the worst type of players against ASY. Other than TTY, almost nobody with deceptive style has ever beaten ASY. Even TTY struggled 90% against ASY. The best type of players against ASY is the one who can match her rallying skill like Akane, CYF, and WZY.
If Gregoria Mariska Tunjung can continue to improve, inject extra pace from time to time and cut the number of errors, I think she can beat ASY. Also, perhaps not in the first half of 2025, Tomoka Miyazaki could also be a candidate. When she's focussed, she is dangerous, but when not, then the errors mount.
@@pauldodd2120 That's why I disagree. We have the statistic to say otherwise. If the queen of deception TTY hardly could beat ASY, why do you think others could? Why don't you look at the statistic of players that have beaten ASY or close to beating ASY? The vast majority of them have strong rallying skill rather than deceptive skill. Deception is a double edged sword. It's high risk, high reward style of play. It's a terrible weapon against super stable player like ASY. What players like Tunjung or Miyazaki need is not more deception, but more stamina and stability. Both of them tend to run out of stamina by the 3rd set which results in more errors. As long as they don't get better at this, they will never beat ASY.
Hi Ben, What do you make of the fact that Seo Seung Jae and Kim Won Ho have been split up for the Indonesia masters?? Does that move make sense given how well they have been playing together for those first two tournaments this year?
I think this decision was made before Malaysia Open so not sure I'd read too much into it. But we'll have to wait and see what the Korean coaches decide on with their MD pairings
You kept mentioning about deception. what about matching up ASY basic game ? If you look at the H2H record, only 2 players have positive H2H record against ASY : Akane Yamaguchi and Chen Yu Fei. those 2 players weren't really relying on their deception when they beat ASY, they were relying on their basic game, retrieving skills, and also accurate attack - for Yamaguchi specifically, at her best she was probably the only player I saw who was truly capable of outpacing ASY. ASY never had problems against player with good deception, hence why her record is dominant against player like TTY, Intanon, or Tunjung.
I'd be interested to see when the majority of those wins for CYF and Akane happened as simply rallying and being basic isn't a tactic that can consistently work now. On top of this, I didn't only say it was deception, I said you had to be able to play at a fast pace, be solid mentally to not be tempted to lines and tactically astute enough to be able to keep your working tactics open. I didn't simply chalk it up to deception, although I would say it's necessary. I would add that when I say deception, I don't mean it has to be crazy skills.
Re WD pair Kim Hye Jeong / Kong Hee Yong: Kim seems not to be able to make points from the back against pairs with a solid defence. At the moment, Kong seems to want to rush to the net, when she is weaker at the net and stronger from the back. Even if they fix this, Kim is probably not going to be better at the back, so I doubt they will win many tournaments.
please explain how drow seedings are made. Yuta already played this year and had a seeding and now he's playing in the qualifiers? same with those korean MDs? they weren't seeded in those pairs and now they changed partners and SEO/JIN don't have a seeding and KIM/KANG do have (5), how does that work?
That's because he has a new partner, so their ranking as a pair is not high enough. It also depends on the level of the tournament, the higher the level the more better ranked players enter.
@@pauldodd2120 bbut what you said is general knowledge but how to explain the cases I gave. in higher-ranked previous tournaments, Yuta played without qualifying, and now he suddenly has to play. and once again why KANG/KIM have (5) and SEO/JIN do not, even though SEO has recently won all the ranking points
@szpankwicz I think the seeded Korean pairs had probably played together previously. The top 32 of each tournament are in the main draw, lower ranked have to qualify (if there is a qualifying). Why don't you just look at the BWF ranking rules, acceptance list and seeding rules instead of asking?
@ well, hmmm I guess that's why there are questions, because people don't want to read a document that doesn't say anything simple and contains 8 pages of gibberish
IMHO, Maya Taguchi has more potential than Arisa Higashino in mixed. She is very fast, good at the net and from the back. Her defence ciuld be better, but I see it improving faster than Arisa's, which was always her weakness.
I'm not so sure. The more I watch Taguchi the more I feel she is a WD player not a mixed player. But we shall see, playing at this level and with Yuta can only be helping her future career whatever discipline she ends up in
Do you think ASY can become unstoppable this year?
As always, here are the timestamps;
00:00 - 00:37 - Introduction
00:37 - 07:16 - Dechapol Doubling Up
07:16 - 12:12 - European Mixed
12:12 - 19:39 - Dejan & Ramadhanti Mixed Hope
19:39 - 25:08 - ASY dominance
25:08 - 34:05 - 2 More NEW Pairs in the Women's Doubles
34:05 - 41:06 - Men's Doubles Final
41:06 - 46:44 - Seo Seung Jae Better With Kang Min-hyuk?
46:44 - 50:52 - Should Aaron Chia and Soh Wooi Yik Split?
50:52 - 52:49 - Arisa Success, Yuta Struggles...interesting topic
52:49 - 56:18 - Viktor’s Performance
56:18 - 01:01:13 - How to Beat ASY
01:01:13 - 01:03:00 - Outro
Hope you enjoy the video 😊
If not get any injury i believe so
One thing for sure. She is far from done. We all know staying in top 3 is harder than chasing the rank. She is unreal.
Was lucky enough to speak to Roni Augustinus in Delhi at the India open 2025. He said that ASY will not play 500 or below level tournaments for now. So her next tournament will be All England. For now her focus will be big events.
as it should be!
Of course! Especially she must be chasing the second world championship gold medal right now 👀
@@BenBeckmanBadminton I beg to differ as KBA is under scrutiny by the Ministry at the moment. They will "milk" all their players for monetary gains as much as possible. They are not the only associations to do so since BWF started this $$$ super series.
@ongkimchoon7383 well she isn't playing the Indonesia Masters like previous years so it's looking positive
No one can truly challenge ASY atm, she a superb all around player with no real weaknesses.
The longer, the better! haha always love your vide. thank you very much for your efforts!
Hahaha, amazing! Thanks
Without Yamaguchi on the scene currently and the retirement of TTY, I feel like Chen YF is the only one who can realistically threaten ASY on a more regular basis - we may see flashes in the pan by other players but right now this is the era of ASY
a fully fit WZY will be a threat too seeming as she is a carbon copy of TTY with a little less defence but a little more attack
@@BenBeckmanBadminton But ASY is quite formidable. I cannot imagine anyone defeating her in less than 3 games that too for very few players in fit and 100% good form.
ASY has great defence but moreover she has great precision and ability to break the momentum of a well playing opponent.
Mental strength+ physical strength+ Skills = Full package 😂
@@BenBeckmanBadminton I'm not sure WZY will be a consistent threat to ASY yet - I know ASY has had a mixed recent H2H record against her (but 9-4 or something overall) but recent losses to WZY have come during/at the tail end of her knee injury... both fully fit I think ASY still wins in 2, more often than not
There are some younger players like Tomoka Miyazaki that have a chance but need to establish themselves in the top 10 before you could realistically consider them a contender for the throne
@@Olympic_Updates Agreed - and always thought her biggest strength was the toolbox of threats and counter-punches she had for any kind of opponent she plays against
ASY’s era
IMHO...
She isn't the type of a player who makes fancy and risky shots, but her ability to stay on the rally thanks to her crazy stamina and athleticism, plus consistent textbook shots (which avoid her from making unnecessary mistakes) forcing the enemy to do mistakes that she often exploits immediately.
A female Chen Long basically
If ASY continue her dominance in her discipline we can see a domination just like Axelsen did.
She’s already there mate
@lincolnfineblanket1464 Let see if she can sustain for the rest of this year
I love your videos! Always exciting to see new videos from you, keep up the great work, can't wait to watch more!
thanks, appreciate it
For me,both goh and izzuddin became more creative in their gameplay especially goh.As a Malaysian i really love their gameplay,not too extreme and not too soft.
Thank you for the quality analysis, Ben, particularly re: ASY. I agree that Tunjung has the potential to beat ASY through her amazing skills and multilayered deception, provided she continues to become mentally stronger and further continues to improve her stamina. ASY is so tough to beat!
I think now big difference in women single because other player is not capable to defeat ASY because she is her peak level and unstoppable i like her player style
The India Open was interesting. ASY just looks formidable right now. I agree, she can absolutely dominate women's singles this year. I feel the first real challenge she will face will be an evolving Tomoka Miyazaki. She's still a work in progress, and she will not want to reflect at length over how she came apart in her semi final after completely and utterly dominating the first game and a half! That was a horrible defeat from a position where she only needed to trade the remaining rallies in game two and take the win from her opponent. Japan's ladies doubles is really starting to shape up well. It's weird to think of Matsuyama & Shida as their "oldest" pair but both Fukushima & Matsumoto and Sakuramoto & Igarashi are all but fresh out of the box and already hitting winning ways this year! More significantly, all three pairs have quite different styles and strengths meaning that even if their opposition has the "game" to regularly overcome one of them, the other two pairs will pose a serious threat. 2025 will be a huge year for Japanese women's doubles, although that is starting the obvious as we are only a few top level BWF tournaments into the year and these girls have already won Malaysia and India (and that's in spite of Matsuyama & Shida not even beginning their campaign yet, other than comfortably winning the All Japan Championships back in December).
I curious what will happen if nakanishi iwanaga join the elite japan wd
@@gunturalamsyah859 Agreed. Japan just has an abundance of riches in women's doubles right now. Not a unique position for them as, in the past, they have produced outstanding pairs in this discipline. It would be fascinating to explore why and how this nation has evolved to be so strong in women's doubles in recent decades? Could we learn something from their coaching techniques or development pathways? What role does their well established professional leagues play, too?
will probably be at least 3 years before Miyazaki can be a consistent threat to ASY. That semi-final game was so painful to watch......... I do think Miyazaki will dominate eventually though. (Edit: Considering ASY is only 4 years older than Miyazaki, Miyazaki might not have much time to truly shine... we'll see...)
@@evangellydonut miyazaki has more weapon than asy tbh, but asy's consistency is just out of this world. On the other side, miyazaki's ues are comparable to tunjungs when her mental go down
Hi Ben, I don't know if you spoke about it in earlier videos,
guidance to rule "Service Undue Delay" (clause 9-1-1 of laws) has been updated end of december :
"This means that once players are in a position to serve and receive, any excessive delay is undue delay,
whether it is a player holding their hand up indicating they are not ready,
standing in a position ready to serve and doing nothing, or the side-to-side motion."
It seems Viktor Axelsen applied a bit the rule at the beginning of the tourament, only doing one "side to side" or doing it very quicly compared to his usual pace and seemed it was quite parturbating him.
Later in the tournament, he just completely went back to normal... (without any remark of the referee from what I saw).
I noticed a bit more side to side in India as opposed to Malaysia
@@BenBeckmanBadminton I may be confused between the two events indeed
Loonking forward how the rule will ba applied... or not.
Love these long videos 👍
Happy to hear that, it's what this channel is becoming about 😄
I know that chenifei declares she will have the time to relax from competitions for about a year shortly after Paris olympics. Also akane yamaguchi has have a little bad condition in her body and forms since 2023. So, now, I think that nobody can stop ASY from winning any games…. In terms of her age(ASY), she will stay her best form at least for 2-3years. In a female single, ASY has a tremendous patience, stamina, and mentality to do any kinds of trainings. I respect her.
In the topic of Gicquel-Delrue, I think that one of their major issue is in the mental side. There are a lot of times where they dominates in first game (or first interval) but ends up losing.
I do think that if they start to get a lot of big event win (or winning against big names) they will start to really challenges the top pair. Definitely a good pair, just needs a little oomph.
I vaguely remember that Ramadhanti played mixed doubles when she was at junior level. But I am wholeheartedly agree on Daniel Marthin on XD. I guess one of the main issue is that it's hard to get a good female player. There are a lot of good male players in Indonesia but we're limited on female players.
If we're allowed to exchange players with Thailand though.. LOL
Malaysian ‘casual’ fans really love splitting up pairs whenever a pair or a player in a pair is struggling relatively to their best performance 😅😅
I LOVE UR VIDEOSSS
@Shadow-zt4cm thank you 😊
Hi Ben, thanks for taking your time to answer my question on whether Aaron SWY should split.
A very in-depth and comprehensive analysis on this topic.
I particularly love the idea of how to split and pair Aaron Soh with the junior world champion Aaron Kang.
But definitely agree that it will be extremely risky to do so
no worries man, was an interesting question and felt there was plenty to talk about surrounding it. Yeah the more I think about it the more I like that idea, I'm just unsure whether or not BAM and the coaches will risk it
Ahh! Thank you, Ben! Great video again (as usual)! And great questions induce great videos, don't they? And for me your videos just have one problem, they are too short.
I love the sheer amount of information I get from these videos.
Right now I know what my smashes are missing: the correct position of the fingers in the left hand. Where is that image from? I'd like to have it as wallpaper.
Did you ever consider to produce your videos without any background music? I find your voice good and you pronounce clearly so I can understand everything without problem.
Maybe you give one video a try without music and see what the commentators say?
But enough now, before my comment gets longer than your video does!
Greetings, Célestin
Too short? Wow...you might be alone there haha. What image are u talking about? And yh, maybe I will try without music in a future episode. Thanks for the support and glad you enjoyed the episode 😊
Chen yu fei is back in 2025. will she still be in Big 4 in WS?
we'll have to wait and see what her level is. Plus her motivations. But if she is going to come back then they must be high
@@BenBeckmanBadminton CYF has stated that she is aiming for LA 2028, so it seems that she still has the motivation to aim high.
If she continues at this pace, An Se Young will go down as the objective greatest woman’s single player of all time.
People can have their personal GOATs like TTY or CYF, but like with Lin Dan, they will have to recognize that ASY is the objectively greatest of all time.
Although seems very possible that's still a huge IF. Anything can happen. But it's cool to think that we are possibly witnessing the making of the greatest WS player ever
@@BenBeckmanBadmintonI think she already has a hall of fame career and she isn’t even 23 yet… IF she keeps this pace, in 5 years she can retire as the objective GOAT.
People can have their personal GOATs, the ones that inspire them most; Marin, TTY, Susi, Ning, Akane, CYF, Bang, Ratchanok, so on and so on, but they will have to acknowledge ASY as the objective GOAT the same way we acknowledge Lin Dan as the objective MS GOAT
Who consider CYF to be the GOAT of WS ? she's not even making it to top 5
2 Greatest Women's Player of All Time as of now in my opinion is Carolina Marin & Zhang Ning. TTY probably would be in my top 3 because of her consistency through the years.
Hey, I'm a little bit curious about your view on the undue delay service rule. It's quite subjective innit? Like should bwf implement a visible service time like the one in tennis to make it more objective?
Difficult to say although that seems like a logical option.
Where is Zheng siwei and huang Yaqiong video?
Working on it. It will come
Great review as usual! Any thoughts about Mia’s complaints?
Thank you. I'd rather not comment, it isn't my place to as I wasn't at the tournament so would be unfair to offer any opinion.
How to beat ASY. Your advised was realistic but how many can maintain, inject pace & power, recover, repeat the process. Most would be "brain dead" in thinking what to do next during recovery. Not all top players recover at the same rate. She had that. TTY, during her peak was like that. Many believe that high intensity would help develop it but physically, if it's not in you, that's that. In 1983, while going up undulating steps in Seoul, I was pass by a super Ajumma carrying two baskets of food, one in each hand, I was 26 years in age, and she would, in my estimation to be early 40's.
Not many can, that's why ASY so difficult to beat
If AKANE YAMAGUCHI gets back and takes her carrier seriously (some times she is not soo serious on court) ,she can definitely control AN SE YOUNG
She's one of a few that could trouble and beat ASY. She has what is necessary
The golden age of women's singles badminton seems to have passed, and I can't help but feel that the current era lacks strength. There was a time when the top 10 to 15 players were seen as equals. When ASY is at her peak, she truly appears unbeatable; even Wang Zhi Yi would find it tough to compete against a fully fit ASY. She is on the path to becoming the greatest of all time, and there doesn't seem to be a significant challenge in her way. Players like TTY, Akane, and Chen Yufei possess the qualities you highlighted to take her on, yet they still appeared to struggle against her.
TTY was born in '94, ASY in '02... I think back in TTY's prime, she can be evenly matched with ASY.
@@adarshminj2543 IMHO that's an illusion. At the moment we have many upcoming comparatively young players and some older former number 1s. So we have a changing of the guard and ASY happens to be at the top of her game. Basically, she has a super defense, her basic game is more consistent than her opponents and her physical is excellent, plus she has great mental strength. Her attack and speed is not the best in WS.I think if Akane Yamaguchi and ASY are both 100% fit, it's 50:50. I also think ASY's anticipation seems so good is partly because her start jump timing is a little later than most.
@@evangellydonut Same for Ratchanok.
@evangellydonut,I completely agree with your perspective. TTY stands out as the greatest women's singles player badminton has ever produced. This isn't just about her titles or head-to-head records; it's about the impact she made on the sport. Her presence elevated the women's game significantly, sparking a surge of interest worldwide. She has garnered immense popularity across the globe.
As for ASY, even if she faced off against the likes of prime TTY, Marin, Akane, Okuhara, Sindhu, Chen, Xuerui, Saina, and Intanon, she would likely emerge victorious. However, it’s important to acknowledge that her journey would undoubtedly be more challenging.
I think that see my opinion is that ASY is at her very best when
Pursala v sindhu - at her all time low and age factor nearing 30
Ratch. Intanon - struggling as well as we can see and age factor too nearing 30
Marin - broken leg :(
TTY - injuries :(((((
Chen - disappeared after olympics
He bing - idk why she took retirmemt but still wont be finding ways to beat asy sorry for this
Okhuara - same as pv and inatnon
Actaully okhuara , sindhu and intanon are tripplet sis of 29 years all them going thru lows
So now yamaguchi and wang zhi yi , and tunjung but having a terrible head to head To asy 11-0 though but still considering , are her real threats thats it .... But when we see all the players i have named they all clashed at thier prime time and we never forget the chinies dominace which theu prevalied in 2015-2020
So thats my opinion
I luv your indept analysisn
10:39 what is precisely is wei’s akward hitting style ? To me it looks like her elbow is always flared and sticking out . I understand she was heavily bandaged this tournament . Maybe it’s something when she played singles ?
It looks awkward to me, almost like she doesn't throw but pushes at it. It is difficult to explain, just looks a bit "off". Sorry not explaining myself well here
Tomoka Miyazaki will give toughest fight ASY this. Her hip rotation is faster than enough to break ASY Anticipation. Just my thoughts
Ok, although I'm not quite sure how hip rotation is a big enough deciding factor. Let's see how Miyazaki progresses
@BenBeckmanBadminton react to ASY's neutral net plays to corners
@ajeshmail123 I think I'm following. But on top of this Miyazaki needs to develop better shot quality and variation herself. On top of other things too
@@BenBeckmanBadminton Thanks ben. I will too follow with you. With your breakout videos my learning and passion for this sport faster than ever. Thank you so much
@ajeshmail123 thank you and hope u continue to enjoy (and learn) 🤗
thank u for being more than just an AI voice over
No problem 😊
CYF is coming back
love it
Deceptive player need more extraa tactics to beat ASY
cc: GMT, intanon, chocuwong, TTY :)
Actually those are the worst type of players against ASY. Other than TTY, almost nobody with deceptive style has ever beaten ASY. Even TTY struggled 90% against ASY.
The best type of players against ASY is the one who can match her rallying skill like Akane, CYF, and WZY.
If Gregoria Mariska Tunjung can continue to improve, inject extra pace from time to time and cut the number of errors, I think she can beat ASY. Also, perhaps not in the first half of 2025, Tomoka Miyazaki could also be a candidate. When she's focussed, she is dangerous, but when not, then the errors mount.
@@reinartes7079Ben says you need deceptions to nullify An Se Young's reading of the game.
@@pauldodd2120 That's why I disagree. We have the statistic to say otherwise. If the queen of deception TTY hardly could beat ASY, why do you think others could?
Why don't you look at the statistic of players that have beaten ASY or close to beating ASY? The vast majority of them have strong rallying skill rather than deceptive skill. Deception is a double edged sword. It's high risk, high reward style of play. It's a terrible weapon against super stable player like ASY.
What players like Tunjung or Miyazaki need is not more deception, but more stamina and stability. Both of them tend to run out of stamina by the 3rd set which results in more errors. As long as they don't get better at this, they will never beat ASY.
@@reinartes7079 I totally agree with you. Your analysis is correct. From Korea.
I thought her name was Arisa Higashino? why has it change? or i am mistaken.
She's got married so her last name is changed.
yes, as someone else wrote she got married, to Yu Igarashi and Arisa has taken his surname to become Arisa Igarashi
Hi Ben,
What do you make of the fact that Seo Seung Jae and Kim Won Ho have been split up for the Indonesia masters??
Does that move make sense given how well they have been playing together for those first two tournaments this year?
I think this decision was made before Malaysia Open so not sure I'd read too much into it. But we'll have to wait and see what the Korean coaches decide on with their MD pairings
You kept mentioning about deception. what about matching up ASY basic game ?
If you look at the H2H record, only 2 players have positive H2H record against ASY : Akane Yamaguchi and Chen Yu Fei. those 2 players weren't really relying on their deception when they beat ASY, they were relying on their basic game, retrieving skills, and also accurate attack - for Yamaguchi specifically, at her best she was probably the only player I saw who was truly capable of outpacing ASY.
ASY never had problems against player with good deception, hence why her record is dominant against player like TTY, Intanon, or Tunjung.
I'd be interested to see when the majority of those wins for CYF and Akane happened as simply rallying and being basic isn't a tactic that can consistently work now.
On top of this, I didn't only say it was deception, I said you had to be able to play at a fast pace, be solid mentally to not be tempted to lines and tactically astute enough to be able to keep your working tactics open. I didn't simply chalk it up to deception, although I would say it's necessary. I would add that when I say deception, I don't mean it has to be crazy skills.
Re WD pair Kim Hye Jeong / Kong Hee Yong: Kim seems not to be able to make points from the back against pairs with a solid defence. At the moment, Kong seems to want to rush to the net, when she is weaker at the net and stronger from the back. Even if they fix this, Kim is probably not going to be better at the back, so I doubt they will win many tournaments.
a good way of putting it
please explain how drow seedings are made. Yuta already played this year and had a seeding and now he's playing in the qualifiers? same with those korean MDs? they weren't seeded in those pairs and now they changed partners and SEO/JIN don't have a seeding and KIM/KANG do have (5), how does that work?
That's because he has a new partner, so their ranking as a pair is not high enough. It also depends on the level of the tournament, the higher the level the more better ranked players enter.
@@pauldodd2120 bbut what you said is general knowledge but how to explain the cases I gave.
in higher-ranked previous tournaments, Yuta played without qualifying, and now he suddenly has to play.
and once again why KANG/KIM have (5) and SEO/JIN do not, even though SEO has recently won all the ranking points
@szpankwicz I think the seeded Korean pairs had probably played together previously. The top 32 of each tournament are in the main draw, lower ranked have to qualify (if there is a qualifying). Why don't you just look at the BWF ranking rules, acceptance list and seeding rules instead of asking?
@ well, hmmm I guess that's why there are questions, because people don't want to read a document that doesn't say anything simple and contains 8 pages of gibberish
Why higashino became igarishi ??
Married to Yu Igarashi
@@SportifyRaghav She didn't like her surname, she thought Arisa Igurashi sounded great, so she found a guy with that name and married him 😂.
An se young vs Yamaguchi who is better player?
At this pace, An is going to go down as the greatest women’s singles player of all time, possibly even before 27 if she gets her second gold.
ASY is the better player. Yamaguchi had higher peak tho imo
dang I've been away from badminton for so long I didn't even know arisa higashino got married
It was relatively recent so don't feel too bad
@BenBeckmanBadminton yeah, I just checked it was August on last year
I believe DinFei lost in Malaysia Open because Din was unwell.
I didn't know this. More than made up for it in India
first like! first comment!
@vincentsu7635 nice one 😊🙏🏻
Would have loved to see you talk about the unhygienic conditions highlighted by mia blitchfeldt.
I wasn't there so didn't feel it appropriate to comment on that
@@BenBeckmanBadminton Understandable, thanks for your videos.
IMHO, Maya Taguchi has more potential than Arisa Higashino in mixed. She is very fast, good at the net and from the back. Her defence ciuld be better, but I see it improving faster than Arisa's, which was always her weakness.
I'm not so sure. The more I watch Taguchi the more I feel she is a WD player not a mixed player. But we shall see, playing at this level and with Yuta can only be helping her future career whatever discipline she ends up in