I'd like to know more about the methodology and how you tracked and calculated the bey's speed on the x-line. Especially because the whole line is almost never utilized, the distance of measurement shouldn't happen using the full line. Instead, I'd propose documenting either the last part of the line (the last 10cm before the curve) or the "exit speed" during the ~5cm trajectory towards the stadium center.
I love how you actually do a legit scientific method in this video! More people should approach competitive beyblade with this mindset rather than just slapping the heaviest bey with the roundest and shortest ratchet lmao. More videos like this please 🙌✨
Thanks for the support 🙏 yeah for sure, looking at things scientifically actually led to a decent bey ngl, taking it to a tournament soon. More videos to come too!
"More people should approach competitive beyblade with this mindset rather than just slapping the heaviest bey with the roundest and shortest ratchet" - This needs to be shouted from the rooftops
As someone who does do that mindset of shortest and roundest I do that cause I genuinely like those types the best ever since I can remember, my favorite type has always been stamina.
A blader who knows physics and can use it to make bad parts good? You're exactly the kind of person who would be a real threat in the anime my dude! Definitely earned a sub! This is the coolest thing I've ever seen in my 14 years as a blader.
Great premise for a video, technically to go full meme things like Dranzer or Driger could also work in theory to KO fast, Level is like pretty good stam and speed but sometimes it'll zoom crazy to an Xtreme Finsih. Also took a look at your channel because viewers commented about it just wanted dot say best of luck dude with your content and beytubing you seem pretty chill and video was good vibes! I may be tempted to actually try it for the fun or see if the funny can be done. God bless
Thank you, for the comment Zankye truly appreciate it😭🙏🏾 i remember watching you as a kid like a decade ago going on mfb beyhunts, you're a great beytuber and an OG. Yeah level is great, only one of the squad has it but he’s convinced all of us it’s a necessary purchase, definitely heaps of potential, like an upgrade of point? If you wanna see a meme drigger combo should watch our drigger 4-80 elevate vid 😭. Thank you again for the support truly means a lot to us, you should try the combo and let you know how it goes haha. God bless to you too 🙏🏾
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub I'll make sure to check out more of your stuff and apperciate the kind words! I'll make sure too if I plan to do this combo to cover your channel and try to help boost you out!
When it comes out, try this exact combo but with the ghost circle's blade! It's small, it's SUPER round, and it seems to a a small-ish centre of gravity. Edit: I just learned that there's going to be a 0-80 ratchet coming with ghost circle, so I think once there's a 0-60, we'll have a new meta combo.
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub I sure think it's awesome, too! Plus it might just dethrone wizard because of how round/its combo potential... but, I have a question. I'm personally new to the beyblade X hobby, well, more just re-entering it, but do you have any starter combos for me to use? I feel as if you'd certainly be better in this department than me...
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClubTyranno on 2-60R might not be the best starter combo bcuz of the burst risk. 5-60P, 1-60R or 1-60P would probably be better to start off with
@@NEKOplaysgamez ,@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub, Thanks for the suggestions! Still, I can't wait for ghost circle to come out! I sure think that it'll be a great blade for this combo, it might even surpass the meta and become the new meta! Again, thank you for the suggestions and can't wait till' a video on ghost circle comes out! P.S. Congrats on hitting 1k subs!!!
I’d love to see more deep dives into beys using the scientific method more! Not only are you entertaining, but you provide actual evidence for your testing. Can’t wait to see more from you!
Just ran this setup in a ranked tournament and boy let me tell you, when this thing connected it absolutely destroyed some of the most meta blades in the game. The trick is getting the timing down. I even had a couple of victories against Wizard Rod with it. This thing is sick!
There's just something so satisfying with how fast these beyblades can go now. I love hearing them almost becoming buzz saws just circling around the stadium, just the coolest sounds a toy can make.
I used to do Beyblade tournaments when I was a kid. Unfortunately nobody around me does them anymore and I don’t think there’s any interest. After watching some of Beyblade X on Netflix, it’s cool to see how beys and their designs have evolved. Being able to customize them so they perform a specific way is so cool
Based on your experiments ive put together my own version as im limited mostly to hasbro parts. But my Vader 3-60 gear is hilariously fast and keeps beating my pheonix 9-60 taper consistently. Im taking it to a tournament this weekend, wish me luck!
Fantastic video. Seeing people actually challenge the meta with combinations and thorough research like this really makes me smile. Subbed. Also, I had a thought. If you pull lets say the Wizard Rod and the Shinobi blades at the same speed, Knife Shinobi will be able to complete more rotations than Wizard Rod just because of it's smaller size, perhaps maybe giving it a harder hit? Even if it is the case it's probably not significant enough of a difference, but still fun to think about.
Haha thanks for the support 🙏 actually I think you may be correct! Some other comments talked about how the RPM of knife shinobi is wayyy higher than something like wizard rod, and that's why it's able to not only be so fast, specifically on level, but to also hit hard
just another absolute banger combo/video that I've come to expect from this channel, could see this cracking some windows if it jumped outta the stadium
Lmao, great vid. You actually worked your ass off, calculated all the variables and succeeded to create a Cheetah Shinobi. Great video. I am gonna bring Knife Shinobi to my first tournament this weekend. It seems to perform decently with a 3-60/HN (at least according to my tests and playstyle). We'll see how it will go. These are the crazy things I like to see, not always the same damn meta.
Im new to the scene so i dont understand a lot of it yet, but wouldnt the beyblade on the string launcher be at a disadvantage? Wouldnt that skew test results?
Not in all cases is the string launcher weaker, and sometimes for beyblades like wizard rod, a string launcher can be more beneficial due to a lower initial energy loss which helps keeps up it's spin conservation
Thank you for an educational vid, i tried with Rhino horn, coz i dont have knife shinobi, maybe its a little slower, but it hits hard and fast 😂 keep making more video like this!
I have a question : does using the bit from Dran Buster makes this even faster because of the increased amount of teeth on the bit or are the three you mentioned more viable? Thank you for the great video.
Thanks for the support 🙏 I think Accel may be quite fast, and I did consider it. Unfortunately I didn't own Accel at the time. May have to try it out because it actually adheres to multiple aerodynamic principles in addition to the teeth
It’s important to note that the Lvl bit also lets you go from stamina conservation to counter attack if hit so as long as you hold speed and are low to the ground you can push back heavier Bey’s Excited for Ghost Circle 3-60L
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub it wasent a direct like comment to u specifically it was just a realisation i had cause the name was so perfect so sorry if it came off as rude
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub interesting, well I can’t wait until I finally get my samurai saber in so I will finally have a level bit to try this with. Thanks for the info, I’ve been looking for a solid knife shinobi build to try out.
So what seems to be happening here is that the smaller radius and lower weight both have double contribution to the total rpm of the beyblade once it's off the launcher. The formula for angular velocity, or let's just say spin speed is a=T/I, with T being the torque generated by pulling on the launcher gears, a being the spin speed and I being the moment of inertia. The total I depends on the integrated function of the geometry but generally for a point it's the mass times the radius squared. What this means is that changes in radius affects the RPM by a lot more than changes in weight, and knife being light and small reduces its inertia by a ton giving it way more spin speed for the same amount of torque. The level bit also seems to act a lot like a gearshift in a car, the different radiuses of the bit give it much more efficient acceleration, not to mention it has 16 gear teeth and the third layer is the widest of all the bits we've gotten so far. So all of that angular velocity is converted into a monstrous amount of linear velocity with ridiculous efficiency. What's really interesting is the aerodynamic possibilities. Knife shinobi seems to have a lot of grooves on the blade, which normally means surface area and drag, but at the small size scale of the beyblade, the viscosity of the air takes over and lowers the reynolds number to where air can flow laminarly over gaps, such as in the case for klein fogelman airfoils. This reduces the amount of shear drag over those gaps, which is also the predominant type of drag in viscous flows, although I cant really say for sure how much of an effect this phenomenon has without making a CFD simulation or something. Maybe I'll try make one when holidays comes around. In the meantime, Id love to see you try the same concept with maybe rubber accel and other light, aerodynamic blades like wyvern gale. Keep up the content! I like your antimeta stuff.
Damn thanks so much for this insight, might apply this knowledge to other blades too! Glad to know scientifically, knife Shinobi has its positives. Thanks for the support 🙏 more on the way 🫡
This is an extremely good insight on what's at play here Do you think it's possible to analyse other blades and Beyblade combos like this? Id love to see a database with this information, kinda like Chief had one back in the OG beyblade, especially as Beyblade X seems to steadily climb its way to a gear sport
@@zensho5814 I think it would be difficult to mathematically model and simulate the interactions of every beyblade, at least for someone of my skill level. The explanation I gave was more of a possible contributing factors based on analysis of existing test battles, and the knife shinobi is a unique case of having such a wildly different model that it's behavior deviates significantly from other beys, in particular being the fucking fast. In any case, even if I could, I probably wouldn't post it here, since directing attention away from someone else's youtube channel would be self advertising and kind of a dick move lol. I will look into that chief database thing though, that sounds interesting. Thanks
Do you have the issue with the launcher ripping up the ripcord's teeth? If yes, what did you do to eliminate that issue? I haven't seen anyone doing a video for that
I like to measure the bey's tangential velocity when going for an x dash instead of speed and accounting for momentum and acceleration. For a more accurate measurement, measure the beys's overall kinetic energy.
@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub According to my calculations, knife shinobi 360-LF reaches tangential velocity of around 94.25 meters per second (or about 210.8 miles per hour) that just over a quarter of the speed of sound which is faster than the eye can see. Basically, when this thing goes for an X-dash, you see nothing but a blur.
Yeahhhh we actually have and I like it, but it just has been quite unreliable, and unfortunately has poor burst resistance. I've been trying to test it on other beys and it just falls apart sometimes 😢
Hoenstl question wouldn't dragger be better for this. I know it has the pertrusions but they arent as big as other attack beys and it still has pretty decent attack. I dont know much about combos, just wondering.
Well tbf your launching the Shinobi off a ripcord and the other off a string so.. Not exactly fair imo. Have you tried revisiting this idea with ghost circle?
You can kind of just see from the shape of the thing. Like wizard rod doesn't because it has something called outward weight distribution where the weight Is pushed to the side. You can see it through the massive gaps between the edge and the centre, meanwhile a blade like knife Shinobi is small, compact, and has no gaps.
@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub my friend just got one! Gotta steal it from him tomorrow 🔥, Ban Kee is our distributor here, can't wait to have the fastest bey created. Meanwhile, I'll try Rhinohorn. Thank you 🔥
Yes it is a remold, however the slight difference is that Shinobi is a much smoother shape than rhino horn, which helps with the aerodynamics. Savage bear could also work, but it is lighter
Aint no way a beyblade is faster than usain bolt 💀 I do have a question tho, did you make sure to calculate where the bey hit the extreme line? It seems thats in this scenario distance isnt constant since they dont ride the full rail most of the time
Honestly tbh I'm a bad scientist and there's a lot of things I didn't account. But, yes, since in the testing all the beys rode roughly the whole extreme line, it was was easy to see the points where the bey hit the extreme line, and left it. It was made easier as there were no other beys launched
I actually think that finding speed is not possible in the Extreme stadium, i use the green big Hasbro Switchstrike stadium, the rails can make the Beys act like they are in the extreme stadium, and a combo i found for super high and clean speed was Hell's Scythe/Scythe Incendio 4-60 Flat
Now i'm really considering buying Knife Shinobi, those battles we're insane and the combo seems pretty consistent, do you happen to know what the most consistent alternative to Level would be?
Level is just a more aggressive point. However I think the performance would vastly differ tbh. I know low flat is a tried and tested bit on rhino horn and it's clones. But level specifically, point would be the replacement
Knife shinobi: The Knife Shinobi and Keel Shark Dual pack, knife Shinobi and tyranno beat dual pack, the x-one game promo 3-60: keel shark Level: samurai Saber set
Yo could you break down how you did your caluclations because I got something completely different. I got an X-Dash length of 1.14 meters and a time of 0.1 seconds, and that turned out to around 11.4m/s for the fastest combo, which is still impressive but nowhere near the insane speeds you got. I don't know if I had an error somewhere but it just doesn't make sense to me how you got over a hundred km/h and I really want to get this right. Hope it isn't much trouble.
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub I got the X-Dash length by getting the circunference of the battle area, so 2pi(18.25). And I messaured to the time from the moment when it latched on to the rail to when it launched toward the center.
Should be okay, you can get a lot of power with a string launcher, fortunately the shape aids it a lot, but I do advise getting the hold launcher in general. The set also comes with level, the bit used in this combo
Um honestly I have no clue. You can generate a lot of power with a string launcher if you use it correctly, but because the bey is super aerodynamic I don't think it'll matter too much. However the launcher set does come with the level bit.
Knife Shinobi - dual pack with keel shark 3-60 - common ratchet, best purchase probably with the keel shark single booster Level - samurai Saber set, comes with the hold launcher
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
00:12 - Development
05:55 - Testing
First video I saw from you, was great!! Also please join a tournament with that bay
Bey*
Increíble video , exploto 3 veces mi wizard rood competitivo. 😮
I'd like to know more about the methodology and how you tracked and calculated the bey's speed on the x-line.
Especially because the whole line is almost never utilized, the distance of measurement shouldn't happen using the full line.
Instead, I'd propose documenting either the last part of the line (the last 10cm before the curve) or the "exit speed" during the ~5cm trajectory towards the stadium center.
Bro, could you make Hells Hammer that could make it actually good in competitive play?
Shoot. I don’t WANT you to take that combo to a tournament. I *NEED* you to take it to a tournament! That bey is a monster when played correctly!
It will happen kind sir 💪
Can confirm this thing instills fear in the hearts of your competitors.
We're hitting that Bey Time Shift with this.
Let's go 😈😈
fujiwara burn's smiling while crying and of course, approved!!
SUBARASHII!!
real lol
W Comment man!
I love how you actually do a legit scientific method in this video! More people should approach competitive beyblade with this mindset rather than just slapping the heaviest bey with the roundest and shortest ratchet lmao. More videos like this please 🙌✨
Thanks for the support 🙏 yeah for sure, looking at things scientifically actually led to a decent bey ngl, taking it to a tournament soon. More videos to come too!
Nice! I can't wait for it. Definitely gonna subscribe for more videos like this 👍
@@HZRT_lgd thanks for the support!!!
"More people should approach competitive beyblade with this mindset rather than just slapping the heaviest bey with the roundest and shortest ratchet" - This needs to be shouted from the rooftops
As someone who does do that mindset of shortest and roundest I do that cause I genuinely like those types the best ever since I can remember, my favorite type has always been stamina.
A blader who knows physics and can use it to make bad parts good? You're exactly the kind of person who would be a real threat in the anime my dude! Definitely earned a sub! This is the coolest thing I've ever seen in my 14 years as a blader.
Haha thanks for the support, more great content coming soon!
Physics + Anime BS = Would likely get far until the anime bladers put two and two together. :)
Yesss the perfect counter to wizard rod, while being weak to defence types.
The perfect bey
Haha thanks for the support 🙏 loving how balanced beyblade X can be
what you just described is an attack type
Great premise for a video, technically to go full meme things like Dranzer or Driger could also work in theory to KO fast, Level is like pretty good stam and speed but sometimes it'll zoom crazy to an Xtreme Finsih.
Also took a look at your channel because viewers commented about it just wanted dot say best of luck dude with your content and beytubing you seem pretty chill and video was good vibes! I may be tempted to actually try it for the fun or see if the funny can be done.
God bless
Thank you, for the comment Zankye truly appreciate it😭🙏🏾 i remember watching you as a kid like a decade ago going on mfb
beyhunts, you're a great beytuber and an OG.
Yeah level is great, only one of the squad has it but he’s convinced all of us it’s a necessary purchase, definitely heaps of potential, like an upgrade of point? If you wanna see a meme drigger combo should watch our drigger 4-80 elevate vid 😭.
Thank you again for the support truly means a lot to us, you should try the combo and let you know how it goes haha.
God bless to you too 🙏🏾
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub I'll make sure to check out more of your stuff and apperciate the kind words!
I'll make sure too if I plan to do this combo to cover your channel and try to help boost you out!
Thank you, truly truly appreciate the support, have a good one.
When it comes out, try this exact combo but with the ghost circle's blade! It's small, it's SUPER round, and it seems to a a small-ish centre of gravity.
Edit: I just learned that there's going to be a 0-80 ratchet coming with ghost circle, so I think once there's a 0-60, we'll have a new meta combo.
Oh you bet we're gonna be testing it out good idea! Ghost ALSO just looks awesome
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub I sure think it's awesome, too! Plus it might just dethrone wizard because of how round/its combo potential... but, I have a question. I'm personally new to the beyblade X hobby, well, more just re-entering it, but do you have any starter combos for me to use? I feel as if you'd certainly be better in this department than me...
@@hankoldenburg yeah for sure; Phoenix Wing 1-60 Rush, Wizard Rod 9-60 Ball, Dragoon 5-60 Elevate, Tyranno Beat 2-60 Rush, Keel Shark 3-60 Low Flat (best hasbro purchase alongside the phoenix wing string launcher set)
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClubTyranno on 2-60R might not be the best starter combo bcuz of the burst risk. 5-60P, 1-60R or 1-60P would probably be better to start off with
@@NEKOplaysgamez ,@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub, Thanks for the suggestions! Still, I can't wait for ghost circle to come out! I sure think that it'll be a great blade for this combo, it might even surpass the meta and become the new meta! Again, thank you for the suggestions and can't wait till' a video on ghost circle comes out! P.S. Congrats on hitting 1k subs!!!
I’d love to see more deep dives into beys using the scientific method more! Not only are you entertaining, but you provide actual evidence for your testing. Can’t wait to see more from you!
Thanks for the support 🙏 more coming soon!
How our teacher thinks we use math: ah yes they gonna be a good teacher
This guy: BEYBLADE GO BBBRRRRRR
How it should be 😤😤
0:27 Devil May Cry reference earned you a sub immediately my friend
Thank you 💪
Just ran this setup in a ranked tournament and boy let me tell you, when this thing connected it absolutely destroyed some of the most meta blades in the game. The trick is getting the timing down. I even had a couple of victories against Wizard Rod with it. This thing is sick!
It is the FASTEST bey after all, glad it worked for you
Vid got so much effort really creative too!
Thanks for the support! More to come
Dude unironically a great video, well edited, well written, well made, great idea and great execution, great job man this was really fun
Thanks for the support 🙏 more coming soon!
There's just something so satisfying with how fast these beyblades can go now. I love hearing them almost becoming buzz saws just circling around the stadium, just the coolest sounds a toy can make.
For sure, riding the X rail is so satisfying
This bey reminds me of PhoenixFeather's concept. Lightweight, low stamina, low strength, but maximized speed potential
Actually works well ngl
@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub would you mind trying out DranDagger 9-60GF? I bet it can reach that speed too
Will try!
This guy just casually made one of the strongest and fastest beyblade ever made respect
Sorry but I'm definitely copying you're combo
Haha thanks for the support, more coming soon 🙏
No need to apologise!
Ain't no way mans just made Knife Shinobi viable
Hahaha I hope so
the 3-60L combo go insane with allmost every attack bey
Ur right, level actually is just a top tier bit tbh
Ngl I run this combon Samurai and it's INSANE
Without knowing I got soar phoenix 🐦🔥 and it had 9-60 and GF like WHAT
@@eboniemorganyeah whats up with that
i cannot wait to see someone try and beat this with Ghost Circle
Gonna have to try it out!
I have been preaching the tech of Knife Shinobi since it dropped. I'm so glad other people are taking the shinobi pill!
I'm forever gonna be Shinobi pilled now 🙏
XTREME DASH SHADOW BLADE WALKING 🔥
Let's go 😈😈
I used to do Beyblade tournaments when I was a kid. Unfortunately nobody around me does them anymore and I don’t think there’s any interest. After watching some of Beyblade X on Netflix, it’s cool to see how beys and their designs have evolved. Being able to customize them so they perform a specific way is so cool
beyblade x is actually really cool! if you're a fan of metal fight or burst x is right up your alley! glad u like it
05:38 That's quite a funny visual to screenshot and send to people
It's the truth 💪
truly peak scientist
Blader actually 🙄🤓
That hit at 8:20 was insane
Fr 😭, it's crazy to see knife Shinobi push things around
Based on your experiments ive put together my own version as im limited mostly to hasbro parts.
But my Vader 3-60 gear is hilariously fast and keeps beating my pheonix 9-60 taper consistently.
Im taking it to a tournament this weekend, wish me luck!
Haha GOOD LUCK 💪 sounds like an absolutely crazy combo
that beyblade hits with the force of a dad with a belt and a mother with a slipper COMBINED
It hits hard for sure
This is absolutely horrifying and I love it. Imagine trying to stop this with your hand.
Oh no I did worst mistake of my life, actually stung like hell even when it was just spinning still
Fantastic video. Seeing people actually challenge the meta with combinations and thorough research like this really makes me smile. Subbed.
Also, I had a thought. If you pull lets say the Wizard Rod and the Shinobi blades at the same speed, Knife Shinobi will be able to complete more rotations than Wizard Rod just because of it's smaller size, perhaps maybe giving it a harder hit? Even if it is the case it's probably not significant enough of a difference, but still fun to think about.
Haha thanks for the support 🙏 actually I think you may be correct! Some other comments talked about how the RPM of knife shinobi is wayyy higher than something like wizard rod, and that's why it's able to not only be so fast, specifically on level, but to also hit hard
just another absolute banger combo/video that I've come to expect from this channel, could see this cracking some windows if it jumped outta the stadium
Haha thanks for the support 🙏🙏 yeah was actually decently surprised about this Combo tbh
Trying this method out promptly.
Have a good time!
Shinobi knife is that one dude who is really tiny but can hit hard under the right circumstances
For sure
just got into beyblades, this channel is so dope, this would def be a club i'd join
Thanks for the support, more content coming soon!
Ive had my knife Shinobu on an attack bit for a while too. Didnt put this much effort into making it viable. Really cool to seenit work!
Thanks for the kind words!
Lmao, great vid. You actually worked your ass off, calculated all the variables and succeeded to create a Cheetah Shinobi. Great video. I am gonna bring Knife Shinobi to my first tournament this weekend. It seems to perform decently with a 3-60/HN (at least according to my tests and playstyle). We'll see how it will go.
These are the crazy things I like to see, not always the same damn meta.
Thanks for the support, have fun with knife Shinobi! Definitely one of my favourite beys 💪💪
And here I am stuck on metal fight 😂
These are just as awesome as the OGs
Metal fight is the goat 💪💪
Fire vid might buy a beyblade
Not might you WILL buy a beyblade
Im new to the scene so i dont understand a lot of it yet, but wouldnt the beyblade on the string launcher be at a disadvantage? Wouldnt that skew test results?
Not in all cases is the string launcher weaker, and sometimes for beyblades like wizard rod, a string launcher can be more beneficial due to a lower initial energy loss which helps keeps up it's spin conservation
"I'll show you something you can't see!"
For sure 💪
I don’t know how i found myself across a channel of gold yet here i am.
Haha thanks for the support, more to come!
@ bro i cannot wait! I came from the era of metal and beyblade x reignited that passion
@@kikolektrique1737 haha us too, metal fight is our first love, mfb content coming soon!
Just got my Knife Shinobi earlier, can't wait to run this build next tourney.
Have fun!
Will you be testing out the ghost circle layer for this similar build?
Possibly
Have u tried by using shinobi blade?
Thank you for an educational vid, i tried with Rhino horn, coz i dont have knife shinobi, maybe its a little slower, but it hits hard and fast 😂 keep making more video like this!
Yeah rhino horn actually this so hard due to the protrusions, thanks for the support 💪
Amazing video!! learning about the potential of comboing parts:)
Thanks for the support 🙏 more coming soon!
I have a question : does using the bit from Dran Buster makes this even faster because of the increased amount of teeth on the bit or are the three you mentioned more viable? Thank you for the great video.
Thanks for the support 🙏 I think Accel may be quite fast, and I did consider it. Unfortunately I didn't own Accel at the time. May have to try it out because it actually adheres to multiple aerodynamic principles in addition to the teeth
It’s important to note that the Lvl bit also lets you go from stamina conservation to counter attack if hit so as long as you hold speed and are low to the ground you can push back heavier Bey’s
Excited for Ghost Circle 3-60L
Yeah for sure, ghost circle gonna be a hype release 💪 looking forward
the fact this was never tried in the burst era with JUDGMENT joker (as far as ik) upsets me greatly
Maybe you can try!
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub it wasent a direct like comment to u specifically it was just a realisation i had cause the name was so perfect so sorry if it came off as rude
I’m curious if the accel bit could potentially add more speed to this bey when using the extreme line
Theoretically I did consider it, however when testing irl, it just doesn't work very well unfortunately
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub interesting, well I can’t wait until I finally get my samurai saber in so I will finally have a level bit to try this with. Thanks for the info, I’ve been looking for a solid knife shinobi build to try out.
So what seems to be happening here is that the smaller radius and lower weight both have double contribution to the total rpm of the beyblade once it's off the launcher. The formula for angular velocity, or let's just say spin speed is a=T/I, with T being the torque generated by pulling on the launcher gears, a being the spin speed and I being the moment of inertia. The total I depends on the integrated function of the geometry but generally for a point it's the mass times the radius squared. What this means is that changes in radius affects the RPM by a lot more than changes in weight, and knife being light and small reduces its inertia by a ton giving it way more spin speed for the same amount of torque.
The level bit also seems to act a lot like a gearshift in a car, the different radiuses of the bit give it much more efficient acceleration, not to mention it has 16 gear teeth and the third layer is the widest of all the bits we've gotten so far. So all of that angular velocity is converted into a monstrous amount of linear velocity with ridiculous efficiency. What's really interesting is the aerodynamic possibilities. Knife shinobi seems to have a lot of grooves on the blade, which normally means surface area and drag, but at the small size scale of the beyblade, the viscosity of the air takes over and lowers the reynolds number to where air can flow laminarly over gaps, such as in the case for klein fogelman airfoils. This reduces the amount of shear drag over those gaps, which is also the predominant type of drag in viscous flows, although I cant really say for sure how much of an effect this phenomenon has without making a CFD simulation or something. Maybe I'll try make one when holidays comes around. In the meantime, Id love to see you try the same concept with maybe rubber accel and other light, aerodynamic blades like wyvern gale. Keep up the content! I like your antimeta stuff.
Damn thanks so much for this insight, might apply this knowledge to other blades too! Glad to know scientifically, knife Shinobi has its positives. Thanks for the support 🙏 more on the way 🫡
This is an extremely good insight on what's at play here
Do you think it's possible to analyse other blades and Beyblade combos like this? Id love to see a database with this information, kinda like Chief had one back in the OG beyblade, especially as Beyblade X seems to steadily climb its way to a gear sport
@@zensho5814 I think it would be difficult to mathematically model and simulate the interactions of every beyblade, at least for someone of my skill level. The explanation I gave was more of a possible contributing factors based on analysis of existing test battles, and the knife shinobi is a unique case of having such a wildly different model that it's behavior deviates significantly from other beys, in particular being the fucking fast. In any case, even if I could, I probably wouldn't post it here, since directing attention away from someone else's youtube channel would be self advertising and kind of a dick move lol. I will look into that chief database thing though, that sounds interesting. Thanks
@@tamakona113cheers and if you ever do feel free to hmu, as well as if you need data from beys
More of this monster against other combos from the comments!
Sounds like a good shout!
"A needle travelling at the speed of light can cause significant devastation on the Earth"
So true
What is the equivalent for the knife shinobi in takara tomy? Might try this build in our locals
Rhinohorn. But there's a TT knife Shinobi out
Do you have the issue with the launcher ripping up the ripcord's teeth? If yes, what did you do to eliminate that issue? I haven't seen anyone doing a video for that
Yep, unfortunately as of right now, my hold ripchord launcher is gone. I don't know right now how to mitigate this issue, will have to look into it!
I like to measure the bey's tangential velocity when going for an x dash instead of speed and accounting for momentum and acceleration.
For a more accurate measurement, measure the beys's overall kinetic energy.
All right thanks for that info!
@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub According to my calculations, knife shinobi 360-LF reaches tangential velocity of around 94.25 meters per second (or about 210.8 miles per hour) that just over a quarter of the speed of sound which is faster than the eye can see. Basically, when this thing goes for an X-dash, you see nothing but a blur.
have you considered GB as bit? can get the extreme line with the big gear and reducing the friction by minimizing the area that touch the floor
Yeahhhh we actually have and I like it, but it just has been quite unreliable, and unfortunately has poor burst resistance. I've been trying to test it on other beys and it just falls apart sometimes 😢
I gotta use this at the next Sydney tourney lmao thats insane
Hahah yessss you gotta tell us how you went, we bringing it to a Melbourne event soon!
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub Oh you guys are in the Melbourne area, huge! Are you in the Aus Beyblade discord?
Yeah we are! Looking forward to see knife shinobi on the Sydney Tournament results 💪
Hoenstl question wouldn't dragger be better for this. I know it has the pertrusions but they arent as big as other attack beys and it still has pretty decent attack. I dont know much about combos, just wondering.
It could be, but won't be as fast, but could definitely work!
Well tbf your launching the Shinobi off a ripcord and the other off a string so..
Not exactly fair imo. Have you tried revisiting this idea with ghost circle?
Not yet, got my hands on ghost circle, will definitely give it a shot
Question: How are you able to determine if a bey has weight distribution towards the center?
You can kind of just see from the shape of the thing. Like wizard rod doesn't because it has something called outward weight distribution where the weight Is pushed to the side. You can see it through the massive gaps between the edge and the centre, meanwhile a blade like knife Shinobi is small, compact, and has no gaps.
I love how Leon crests survived a beyblade coming at him at close to a cheetahs speed
Bro's just tanky
Is there like another blade you would suggest other than the Knife Shinobi?
Savage bear or anything from the rhino horn line would be usable
Why not the Rush bit? When it grabs the rail, it accelerates the ring the fastest
It's a bit too tall which definitely hampers the speed
@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub Thanks for the reply. I didn't know Rush was taller.
I'm brand new to this since Christmas for my nephew.
We still don't have this ninja officially, do you have information who's the 2nd fastest bey to make this critical hitter build?
Probably try out rhinohorn
@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub my friend just got one! Gotta steal it from him tomorrow 🔥, Ban Kee is our distributor here, can't wait to have the fastest bey created. Meanwhile, I'll try Rhinohorn. Thank you 🔥
I wish i could see this on a life sized anime stadium, that would be so fun
Damn you're right. It would go crazy 💪
Can you post the test videos you used? Im not getting the same data so far
How are you measuring your results?
What if use this combo whit horn rhino or savage bear ?
I mean knife shinobi is a Remold no?
Yes it is a remold, however the slight difference is that Shinobi is a much smoother shape than rhino horn, which helps with the aerodynamics. Savage bear could also work, but it is lighter
can you imagine a bey flying at you at 100km an hour say goodbye to your skull
Fr actual weapon of destruction
You guys are making me buy beyblades again lol
Haha good
Do you think I could get away with using shinobi 3-60 F or should I just go with the stock dran sword for tourneys
Perhaps stock dran sword, flat ain't the best on Shinobi to be honest
In the United staters where I live almost everyone hates shinobi but you just showed people possibilities!
Knife Shinobi supremacy 💪💪
Aint no way a beyblade is faster than usain bolt 💀
I do have a question tho, did you make sure to calculate where the bey hit the extreme line? It seems thats in this scenario distance isnt constant since they dont ride the full rail most of the time
Honestly tbh I'm a bad scientist and there's a lot of things I didn't account. But, yes, since in the testing all the beys rode roughly the whole extreme line, it was was easy to see the points where the bey hit the extreme line, and left it. It was made easier as there were no other beys launched
Will the ghost circle be faster than a shinobi knife?
Will have to test it out for sure!
That video made me subscribe to your channel 💪
Thanks!
I actually think that finding speed is not possible in the Extreme stadium, i use the green big Hasbro Switchstrike stadium, the rails can make the Beys act like they are in the extreme stadium, and a combo i found for super high and clean speed was Hell's Scythe/Scythe Incendio 4-60 Flat
Ahhhh okay makes sense, will use this information for later!
Now i'm really considering buying Knife Shinobi, those battles we're insane and the combo seems pretty consistent, do you happen to know what the most consistent alternative to Level would be?
Level is just a more aggressive point. However I think the performance would vastly differ tbh. I know low flat is a tried and tested bit on rhino horn and it's clones. But level specifically, point would be the replacement
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub Thx dude
Where do you get the parts of it?
Knife shinobi: The Knife Shinobi and Keel Shark Dual pack, knife Shinobi and tyranno beat dual pack, the x-one game promo
3-60: keel shark
Level: samurai Saber set
Can this combo work with Rhino Horn? Unfortunately I dont have knife shinobi
Should be able to, just might be a miniscule amount slower due to protrusions
@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub Okay will try, loved your vid!
Wtf---- bro is really showing us something we can't see
Hehehe now everyone knows a secret
Blink and you’ll miss it ahh Beyblade
What is the full build cause am new to beyblade x😅
Blade: knife Shinobi
Ratchet: 3-60
Bit: level
what is with rhino horn ? isnt it small and very round aswell ?
Yeahhhh, could give rhino horn a try!
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub would love to see it, premium content
Would this work with a standard winder launcher
Yup
Any ideas on what could replace Knife Shinobi? Don't have it yet :(
Nice video, I'm loving your content
Thanks! More content coming soon 💪 I think any of the rhinohorn copies could do the job
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub would shadow shinobi work?
Does Hell Scythe works? that Bey is aerodynamic
Got some air gaps
Can rhino horn subs shinobi knife since almost same design?
Yes, although it won't be as fast due to the jagged shape, although could hit harder
@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub hard to get the shinobi knife in Asia unless the included Nintendo game version
Yo could you break down how you did your caluclations because I got something completely different. I got an X-Dash length of 1.14 meters and a time of 0.1 seconds, and that turned out to around 11.4m/s for the fastest combo, which is still impressive but nowhere near the insane speeds you got. I don't know if I had an error somewhere but it just doesn't make sense to me how you got over a hundred km/h and I really want to get this right. Hope it isn't much trouble.
Haha all good, How'd you get your X dash length? Also from what point to what point did you measure your time?
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub I got the X-Dash length by getting the circunference of the battle area, so 2pi(18.25). And I messaured to the time from the moment when it latched on to the rail to when it launched toward the center.
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DranBuster: Am I a joke to you?
made me laugh
What product line can get the Level bit?
The samurai Saber hold launcher set
Did you calculate the acceleration of xtreme rail?
Honestly I ain't much of a physicist
@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub do you know what is the speed of dran sword or any other bey x?
LET HIM COOOOOOOK! now imma use that at a tourney myself
Good stuff 💪💪💪
does this work with Rhino Horn too?
Should be okay
But is it good with luncher that is equal to the oponents luncher 🤔
If the opponent's bey is launched harder, means more damage 😈
do you think shinobi shadow would work for the combo also?
It could work, would have to try. It is the lightest Beyblade tho and that would give it some trouble
since it light it would go speedy
i dont have any hasbro beys can you make a another one without limted beys from hasbro
Might have to try rhino horn or Shinobi shadow. Need to test them tho, but rhino horn probably the closest as knife is a clone of rhino horn
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClub thank youvery much :)
Could you do this combo with a different launcher or does it really add to it
Should be okay, you can get a lot of power with a string launcher, fortunately the shape aids it a lot, but I do advise getting the hold launcher in general. The set also comes with level, the bit used in this combo
Can youTry that combo with dranzer s blade? 🙏🙏 op video as always❤❤
Thanks for the support 🙏 will do!
Subscribing because I want to see a follow up to this, please record some of those tournament matches if they allow it as I want to see how it fares.
Coming soon!
Does the launcher matter?
Um honestly I have no clue. You can generate a lot of power with a string launcher if you use it correctly, but because the bey is super aerodynamic I don't think it'll matter too much. However the launcher set does come with the level bit.
@@MBBCMonashBeybladeBattlingClubgood to know
Any good ways I can find all the pieces to this monster? (Like what beyblades have what pieces?)
Knife Shinobi - dual pack with keel shark
3-60 - common ratchet, best purchase probably with the keel shark single booster
Level - samurai Saber set, comes with the hold launcher
Thanks