Phenomenal Game and Great Story in my opinion. But, we all knew it wasn't realistically gonna win GOTY last year. But it was definitely a top 3 game. Good review too btw.
I completely disagree with you on story the story was complete ass and dog slog don’t play with me. TS is not good in the story department idc if it’s your opinion bro it’s not true 💀
The story was really bad, especially the third act. They took a very personal Spider-Man villain (venom) and made his motivations completely impersonal to Spider-Man. They made kraven continuously show up on screen to scowl at people then leave with no direct Spider-Man interaction. Multiple times Spider-Man had a direct line of sight on kraven who is a literal terrorist and just let him go. Kravens motivations were also completely weak, just “wanting to find an equal to kill him” with little reason. Kraven spent time and money to figure out each villain so he could surprise attack and cheaply kill them but with Spider-Man he just straight up fought him? Makes absolutely no sense. Also, why did kraven ignore fighting Spider-Man until near the end when he was looking for an equal the whole time- but chose instead to fight everyone that SPIDER-MAN HAS ALREADY BEATEN MULTIPLE TIMES. Spider-Man was the obvious choice in the first place. The symbiotes taking over the city concept is not only overdone but doesn’t match the character of venom whatsoever, they should’ve done a more personal plot between Peter and venom. They built up the betrayal plot between Harry and Peter the whole game, made Harry start to hate Peter, made Peter reject the symbiote- made Harry get the symbiote through his pure rage against Peter- only to FORGIVE PETER AND WANT HIM TO JOIN HIM INSTANTLY??????
I think ur right about some of the problems the game has, and using those to generalize the whole story as bad. Up until Venom is introduced the story is great. Kravens motivation is perfectly in line with his character, and he does lure Peter into the arena like he does with all the villains. Also I can’t think of a time when Peter let Kraven go without reason, normally because there were civilians in danger, or because Connors needed the cure, both of which were more important than stopping Kraven in that moment. However, you are completely right about the critique of Venom. And while the symbiote invasion makes for fun gameplay, it definitely doesn’t fit Venom’s character for him to be the one leading it. I feel like they should have saved that for if they make a Venom game, and have Venom fighting through a symbiote city. Also Miles is way too underutilized when he’s supposed to be the co-protagonist.
@@fro7e891 I think it was cheap writing to have kraven appear on screen multiple times just for Spider-Man to get distracted, its honestly really annoying to just have them stare-off eachother and kraven just walks away. They should’ve had a small boss fight in the church at least because why did they just talk? When kraven is literally a terrorist who at that very moment is running a scheme that has already caused many deaths and will do so in the future. Kraven literally at that point blew up a mega boat carrier, lit the east harbour on fire, kidnapped and murdered multiple people, and had direct intentions to kill dr Connor’s who Spider-Man needed to remove the black suit. If Peter stopped kraven it would’ve saved doc without even needing to cure him first- curing him first just lets kraven kidnap him again and then kill him- which I don’t get why kraven didn’t do. Nothing could be a greater priority than stopping Kraven at the time. it also still makes no sense that he would go for Spider-Man last instead of first because Spider-Man was clearly the most superior opponent compared to all of those villains. Kraven literally just started having the villains fight eachother to find out who the most superior one is when he literally could’ve gone straight to Spider-Man and SHOULD HAVE. That’s what he does in 99% of all other comic adaptations of him. and as I said; with his other direct kills he cleverly devised a plan to kill them. With scorpion he found out how to pierce his suit, with electro he must’ve thought of something too since electro is basically immune to any physical attack. why didn’t he plan anything other than using his bare hands against Spider-Man? And yeah they totally underused miles, it’s really sad tbh. Hopefully he gets more light next time.
You kept blaming Insomniac in this video when it was Sony that rushed the game, it’s not even a rumor it’s confirmed that they made the game come out sooner then they wanted to
I actually didn't see that but thanks for the info, and I didn't mean to make it seem like Insomniac completely ruined the game, but thanks for letting me know!
This game is the poster child for missed potential. It had so much potential to be one of the greatest Spider-Man games ever. But of course it was rushed, developed during covid and of course the involvement of Sweet Baby Inc didn't help.
@@user-ts9qz5oy3j but this game doesn't deserve all this praise. It's 8/10 maximum or, looking at the plot and how Peter Parker's character portrayed here it's 5/10
The gameplay is fun, traversal could've been much more like Web of Shadows (best web swing traversal, way better than SM2). And the combat is much more challenging, I'm not a fan of parrying here but after Bloodborne and Sekiro this isn't as challenging... On the other side the story, world building and character development is... Not great. Something is wrong with Peter that he is in the need to be rescued a lot by his less experienced sidekick... -MJ is annoying and uglified. Also she betrayed Peter. -Miles contributes very little to the story. -Rio Morales is more concerned about music instruments than Mr. Negative out of jail. -Hailey is forced to be playable and also uglified. -Norman Osborn is the most concerned and caring evil father. -Where is the police? -If Kraven is the best hunter why does he need an army? -Danika and Gankee are extremely annoying. Ufffff... There is so much more but I'm getting angry with SBI and Bryan Intihar...
Not great is an understatement the story is complete ASS anybody who defends it needs a smack in the head to get their gears running it actually pisses me off to see people defend the story. It makes me so mad that this series had potential just to get wasted with the direction they’re going in. I loved this series and it was close and personal to me now it’s not it’s fucking ass and I’ll never get the third game they already retired Peter at like 25 get out of here right now before I actually hurt you has anybody read the comics he is not human he fights well into his 30-40’s and that’s arguably his prime where his best fights and stories happened. I hate insomniac for this And it’s not even about all that they do to Peter they fuck up some much in this shitty game
You brain must be leaking smoke for thinking these incredible white lie and fake criticism that you told to yourself about the story. Maybe a day in the psy will do you good.
Me personally, I think it did, all of the big 3 contenders both had there flaws, tears of the kingdom was way too long and boring, and baldurs gate 3 is straight dogshit. People just say that the story sucked because it's not as good as the first one
No stop and be quiet NOW. People say the story is bad because the story is bad it has no relation to the first game. This game misses so many points narratively and fumbles place to place don’t you dare fucking pretend it’s about the first game I’m standing on the truth and the truth is this STORY WAS ASS objectively, had nothing to do with the first
It socks as well as like the end like how come anti venom can't just cure Harry or how come Peter can't just take it off and make anti agent venom for Harry and the killing of Peter's rogues gallery I feel like some things just wasn't Don well or was flat out bad ideas
@@ImagineStudios60 every awards show is honestly redundant. They wanna pat themselves on the back at every opportunity when hardly any of them did anything. That goes across the entire board. Not just games. But movies and TV shows and others that I can't think of.
@@charlesbomerschein9707 I know they do it for movies and Tv. But my channel is kinda about gaming. I just wanted to make clear that I done with awards shows.I won’t make a video about awards shows ok!!!
Glad to see a lot more people than I expected taking my side no this
Phenomenal Game and Great Story in my opinion. But, we all knew it wasn't realistically gonna win GOTY last year. But it was definitely a top 3 game. Good review too btw.
I completely disagree with you on story the story was complete ass and dog slog don’t play with me. TS is not good in the story department idc if it’s your opinion bro it’s not true 💀
@@Noname-gm5om Bro took an opinion so seriously 💀
The story was really bad, especially the third act. They took a very personal Spider-Man villain (venom) and made his motivations completely impersonal to Spider-Man. They made kraven continuously show up on screen to scowl at people then leave with no direct Spider-Man interaction. Multiple times Spider-Man had a direct line of sight on kraven who is a literal terrorist and just let him go. Kravens motivations were also completely weak, just “wanting to find an equal to kill him” with little reason. Kraven spent time and money to figure out each villain so he could surprise attack and cheaply kill them but with Spider-Man he just straight up fought him? Makes absolutely no sense. Also, why did kraven ignore fighting Spider-Man until near the end when he was looking for an equal the whole time- but chose instead to fight everyone that SPIDER-MAN HAS ALREADY BEATEN MULTIPLE TIMES. Spider-Man was the obvious choice in the first place. The symbiotes taking over the city concept is not only overdone but doesn’t match the character of venom whatsoever, they should’ve done a more personal plot between Peter and venom. They built up the betrayal plot between Harry and Peter the whole game, made Harry start to hate Peter, made Peter reject the symbiote- made Harry get the symbiote through his pure rage against Peter- only to FORGIVE PETER AND WANT HIM TO JOIN HIM INSTANTLY??????
I ain't readin allat
@@TheUnholyMcChicken all good, it’s for people who want to
I think ur right about some of the problems the game has, and using those to generalize the whole story as bad. Up until Venom is introduced the story is great. Kravens motivation is perfectly in line with his character, and he does lure Peter into the arena like he does with all the villains. Also I can’t think of a time when Peter let Kraven go without reason, normally because there were civilians in danger, or because Connors needed the cure, both of which were more important than stopping Kraven in that moment. However, you are completely right about the critique of Venom. And while the symbiote invasion makes for fun gameplay, it definitely doesn’t fit Venom’s character for him to be the one leading it. I feel like they should have saved that for if they make a Venom game, and have Venom fighting through a symbiote city. Also Miles is way too underutilized when he’s supposed to be the co-protagonist.
@@fro7e891 I think it was cheap writing to have kraven appear on screen multiple times just for Spider-Man to get distracted, its honestly really annoying to just have them stare-off eachother and kraven just walks away. They should’ve had a small boss fight in the church at least because why did they just talk? When kraven is literally a terrorist who at that very moment is running a scheme that has already caused many deaths and will do so in the future. Kraven literally at that point blew up a mega boat carrier, lit the east harbour on fire, kidnapped and murdered multiple people, and had direct intentions to kill dr Connor’s who Spider-Man needed to remove the black suit. If Peter stopped kraven it would’ve saved doc without even needing to cure him first- curing him first just lets kraven kidnap him again and then kill him- which I don’t get why kraven didn’t do. Nothing could be a greater priority than stopping Kraven at the time. it also still makes no sense that he would go for Spider-Man last instead of first because Spider-Man was clearly the most superior opponent compared to all of those villains. Kraven literally just started having the villains fight eachother to find out who the most superior one is when he literally could’ve gone straight to Spider-Man and SHOULD HAVE. That’s what he does in 99% of all other comic adaptations of him. and as I said; with his other direct kills he cleverly devised a plan to kill them. With scorpion he found out how to pierce his suit, with electro he must’ve thought of something too since electro is basically immune to any physical attack. why didn’t he plan anything other than using his bare hands against Spider-Man? And yeah they totally underused miles, it’s really sad tbh. Hopefully he gets more light next time.
Absolutely fucking atrocious not to mention the character assassination
You kept blaming Insomniac in this video when it was Sony that rushed the game, it’s not even a rumor it’s confirmed that they made the game come out sooner then they wanted to
I actually didn't see that but thanks for the info, and I didn't mean to make it seem like Insomniac completely ruined the game, but thanks for letting me know!
the plot sucked
There are other problems than just being rushed. The story is just not good
@@Exzimius which is a symptom of it being rushed
@@Michael-Gaming-6009 No, it's not. It's a symptom of actually bad writing.
This game is the poster child for missed potential. It had so much potential to be one of the greatest Spider-Man games ever. But of course it was rushed, developed during covid and of course the involvement of Sweet Baby Inc didn't help.
And yet it receive a lot of praise from critics and fans.
@@user-ts9qz5oy3j but this game doesn't deserve all this praise. It's 8/10 maximum or, looking at the plot and how Peter Parker's character portrayed here it's 5/10
The gameplay is fun, traversal could've been much more like Web of Shadows (best web swing traversal, way better than SM2). And the combat is much more challenging, I'm not a fan of parrying here but after Bloodborne and Sekiro this isn't as challenging...
On the other side the story, world building and character development is... Not great.
Something is wrong with Peter that he is in the need to be rescued a lot by his less experienced sidekick...
-MJ is annoying and uglified. Also she betrayed Peter.
-Miles contributes very little to the story.
-Rio Morales is more concerned about music instruments than Mr. Negative out of jail.
-Hailey is forced to be playable and also uglified.
-Norman Osborn is the most concerned and caring evil father.
-Where is the police?
-If Kraven is the best hunter why does he need an army?
-Danika and Gankee are extremely annoying.
Ufffff... There is so much more but I'm getting angry with SBI and Bryan Intihar...
Not great is an understatement the story is complete ASS anybody who defends it needs a smack in the head to get their gears running it actually pisses me off to see people defend the story. It makes me so mad that this series had potential just to get wasted with the direction they’re going in. I loved this series and it was close and personal to me now it’s not it’s fucking ass and I’ll never get the third game they already retired Peter at like 25 get out of here right now before I actually hurt you has anybody read the comics he is not human he fights well into his 30-40’s and that’s arguably his prime where his best fights and stories happened. I hate insomniac for this
And it’s not even about all that they do to Peter they fuck up some much in this shitty game
You brain must be leaking smoke for thinking these incredible white lie and fake criticism that you told to yourself about the story. Maybe a day in the psy will do you good.
Nah the game had so much wasted potential and the first game is alot better🙌🏾
Everyone don’t seem to realize that the first game doesn’t receive any awards either.
That's to be expected though since it was also going up against RDR2 and GOW, but atleast one award should've been given to it
@@Just_Kn1ghtwell as far as I’m concerned, this game is a masterpiece just like the one that you mentioned.
@@user-ts9qz5oy3j And I respect that, I'm still very excited to see the next game insomniac has for us and the future DLC
Me personally, I think it did, all of the big 3 contenders both had there flaws, tears of the kingdom was way too long and boring, and baldurs gate 3 is straight dogshit. People just say that the story sucked because it's not as good as the first one
No stop and be quiet NOW. People say the story is bad because the story is bad it has no relation to the first game. This game misses so many points narratively and fumbles place to place don’t you dare fucking pretend it’s about the first game I’m standing on the truth and the truth is this STORY WAS ASS objectively, had nothing to do with the first
@@Noname-gm5om dude chill the fuck out it's just an opinion it's not that deep, and it's still better than anything else that was nominated for GOTY💀
@@Noname-gm5omthe story is super good you prick and no amount of subjective criticism will change that. So get lost.
It socks as well as like the end like how come anti venom can't just cure Harry or how come Peter can't just take it off and make anti agent venom for Harry and the killing of Peter's rogues gallery I feel like some things just wasn't Don well or was flat out bad ideas
Nah first game was better
Far better
You’re wrong. Both games are better.
Not at all. The story was a tiny bit better but everything else goes to spider-man 2
@@user-ts9qz5oy3jok
No the story was cheeks
It does but BG3 deserves it more
No.
No
Short answer: no. But that said, any awards show is just a joke anyways.
I agree am sorry am not watching anymore games awards show have our steams about them am not watching ok!!!!
@@ImagineStudios60 every awards show is honestly redundant. They wanna pat themselves on the back at every opportunity when hardly any of them did anything. That goes across the entire board. Not just games. But movies and TV shows and others that I can't think of.
@@charlesbomerschein9707 I know they do it for movies and Tv. But my channel is kinda about gaming. I just wanted to make clear that I done with awards shows.I won’t make a video about awards shows ok!!!
Nah I don’t think so
The first game and miles game is better in my opinion
You've chosen....
Wisely
They’re all good.