Exploring the Illegal Organ Trade | Frederike Ambagtsheer | Escaped Sapiens #47

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  • Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
  • On this episode of the podcast I speak with Professor Frederike Ambagtsheer about the illegal trade and trafficking in human organs. Frederike has a background in criminology and public international law, has a doctorate on organ trade, and is currently researching organ trafficking at Erasmus MC's Transplant Institute in Rotterdam, The Netherlands. In this conversation we discuss what is currently know about the trade in human organs, focusing on the kidney trade. We cover the experience of some of the victim groups, how operations and transactions take place, and some of the health and financial implications of the trade. Our main focus is the impact of criminalization on human suffering. In particular, we explore whether evidence based alternatives to prohibition might exist that have better population health outcomes.
    Note: At around 7:50 and 8:32 Frederike talks about “voluntary” kidney sales using air quotations to indicate that the voluntary nature of donations is extremely questionable, and often occurs under severe financial duress or various forms of coercion.
    ►For more information about Frederike:
    www.organtraffickingresearch....
    These conversations are supported by the Andrea von Braun foundation (www.avbstiftung.de/), as an exploration of the rich, exciting, connected, scientifically literate, and (most importantly) sustainable future of humanity. The views expressed in these episodes are my own and those of my guests. This episode in focuses on building healthy and sustainable societies in the face of an aging population, and in particular on the larger ethical and societal implications of criminalizing demand driven products that society finds morally objectionable.
    Menu:
    0:00 - Introduction
    0:55 - Illegal Vs legal transplantation.
    4:40 - Conflict, migration and the organ trade.
    6:00 - Coerced "donation".
    8:30 - How do people become sellers/donors.
    10:30 - Where do operations take place?
    14:14 - Global hot spots.
    16:20 - Buyer remorse and dialysis.
    20:50 - How successful are transplants?
    22:40 - Outcomes for donors/sellers after illegal transplants.
    26:10 - State and personal benefits of transplants.
    35:30 - How efficient is the illegal route.
    39:40 - Prosecution of sellers.
    42:20 - Impact of prohibition.
    52:00 - Iran and the organ trade.
    53:20 - Moral condemnation and knee jerk reactions.
    59:00 - Taking from the poor, giving to the rich.
    1:03:20 - Alternatives to prohibition.
    1:09:20 - Familial pressure.
    1:10:40 - separation of trafficking and trade.
    1:30:10 - Response to alternative proposals.
    1:17:50 - Future dreams.
    1:19:15 - Bonus footage: victims and solutions.
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