Finally someone who understands that the problem isn't simply the lack of in/outfeed table, but rollers. One sure way to eliminate it forever is for manufacturers to put 2 rollers on both sides.
You'd think that the manufacturers of planers would have figured this out by now. They need to make the vertical motion of the rollers at least somewhat independent of the vertical motion of the planer blades. But when the blades are lifted by the rollers, snipe on something is unavoidable. Can't they put a spring of some kind atop the roller bearings to permit them to rise without affecting the position of the blades? I wonder how snipe is on those dual-purpose jointer/planers where the location of the blades is fixed and the support bed is raised.
On quality industrial machines you can adjust the roller pressure which eliminates snipe. Is it just too expensive to produce for a bench top planer not to mention they are trying to keep the weight down.
I've got a lunchbox planer. It does a good job but I'd like to upgrade to a helical head but they are pricey. I'd be nervous sending that nice wood through my planer with its 3 straight blades.
I'm thinking you could get away with small 3-4" pieces that mount on the side of each corner and flush with the front and back edge surfaces. I'd add on each piece with a few dots of cynoacrylate. Then pop off with a hammer when done. Thoughts?
Place a piece of melamine inside the full width of the planer with a stop on the infeed side underneath so it can’t get pulled through. The technique in this video will work for a one off but will get expensive having to make piece a for ever piece of wood not to mention the blade wear from cutting into the plywood/ melamine of the runners.
I have one of those boards too. However, I use this technique when I have a particularly special piece that I want to be perfect. The melamine board does not yield perfect results.
You & Stumpy Nubs have shared this! The best idea of all that I checked! Part of my delemia is planing a live edge board! I'll get around that when the time comes. Thanks for your great idea!
thank you//// i am about to buy a planer...and i watched a lot off videos about snipe....like the in and outfeed, the train method but yours is more effective.
It's certainly not the best for a planer, however I plane lots of cutting board glue ups, so it's getting challenged with that too. It's a helical head, so I can rotate the cutters a few times before they'd need to be replaced.
It was some heavy duty 1" wide gorilla tape - I linked it up above. I ran the tape down the entire side. I didn't want it coming off halfway through the planer.
You used way too much tape you could of got away with using 1/4 of what you used. Great tip and one hell of a piece of walnut would of like to seen the final product.
@inside out Great point! But I really didn't want it to come off on this first attempt, so I erred on the side of too much. And there are some shots of the this great slab all sanded and finished in my walnut shelving unit video ua-cam.com/video/nyxTSVV2zts/v-deo.html Check it out!
This is the only right way all the others methods dont eliminate completely the snipe. Only by russian i seen that and i wander why any american didn't now that untill now. The russian put 4 inches sticks with glue only in the edges and with a small kick they came out easily . I'm George from Greece
When you have your machined tuned up as well as possible, there is always going to be some snipe due to the rollers applying and releasing pressure on the wood when it enters and exits. I just didn't want any on my walnut.
all joking aside, I have a used vintage ryobi AP-10 benchtop planer that has the fold down rollers along with the infeed/outfeeds. I have zero snipe for the first time In my life. I pad 50 bucks for it and bought some new German HSS blades for 30. total 80 bucks for a result that can compete with something sanded with 1000 grit sandpaper. its funny how much I've spent on previous planers that all got stolen, but created the worst snipe ever.
While this works, and it was a well made video, this technique doesn't "eliminate snipe", but rather discards the sniped edges of boards that go through a planer.
Finally someone who understands that the problem isn't simply the lack of in/outfeed table, but rollers. One sure way to eliminate it forever is for manufacturers to put 2 rollers on both sides.
My heart skipped a beat when that gloved hand fed the board in at the end..
very good technique .
thank you from California.
That's genius level! Thanks!
Glad you like it!
I find that to be an excellent idea... plenty of scrap lying around anyway... thanks for sharing
This is the best I've seen...thanks
Thanks Beam. We all have long scrap hanging around, right? So why not give it a try!
great video. Is the blue stuff chalk? Where do you get it? Can you reuse the runners for multiple boards?
Brilliant technique.
That is amazing! Thank you for this.
You'd think that the manufacturers of planers would have figured this out by now. They need to make the vertical motion of the rollers at least somewhat independent of the vertical motion of the planer blades. But when the blades are lifted by the rollers, snipe on something is unavoidable. Can't they put a spring of some kind atop the roller bearings to permit them to rise without affecting the position of the blades? I wonder how snipe is on those dual-purpose jointer/planers where the location of the blades is fixed and the support bed is raised.
So true! You should get in the design business - make a better planer. I love the idea of independently moving rollers.
On quality industrial machines you can adjust the roller pressure which eliminates snipe. Is it just too expensive to produce for a bench top planer not to mention they are trying to keep the weight down.
This snipe hunt is real.
BTW.. with the shown set up, you can also joint your material. ..only used for the typical diy'er that doesn't have a 12" jointer in their garage.
Very true. I use a flat board and shims to run wide boards through until I get a flat surface to use to clean up the other side!
I tried this and it worked great, no snipe at all on my work piece. . Thanks.
I've got a lunchbox planer. It does a good job but I'd like to upgrade to a helical head but they are pricey. I'd be nervous sending that nice wood through my planer with its 3 straight blades.
The helical heads really do make a difference! Start saving...
Is there no snipe with helical blades ?
I'm thinking you could get away with small 3-4" pieces that mount on the side of each corner and flush with the front and back edge surfaces. I'd add on each piece with a few dots of cynoacrylate. Then pop off with a hammer when done. Thoughts?
Place a piece of melamine inside the full width of the planer with a stop on the infeed side underneath so it can’t get pulled through. The technique in this video will work for a one off but will get expensive having to make piece a for ever piece of wood not to mention the blade wear from cutting into the plywood/ melamine of the runners.
I have one of those boards too. However, I use this technique when I have a particularly special piece that I want to be perfect. The melamine board does not yield perfect results.
Better than feeding sacrificial boards in front of and following the work piece. Thanks.
Glad you liked it! Thanks for checking it out.
You & Stumpy Nubs have shared this! The best idea of all that I checked! Part of my delemia is planing a live edge board! I'll get around that when the time comes. Thanks for your great idea!
really good trick
Thanks for watching. Used this trick yesterday :)
thank you//// i am about to buy a planer...and i watched a lot off videos about snipe....like the in and outfeed, the train method but yours is more effective.
Glad I could help!
Thank you !
Thank you!
The!!!! only !!!! technique please
Great idea, been troublesome trying to setup perfe try and prevent snipe. I have the same planer, where do you get new blades for it?
It's the helical head, so you just rotate the cutter heads to get a fresh, sharp blade. Are you through all four edges already?
Thank you.
Best idea on snipe yet! Thanks so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what brand tape is that?
It's thick double sided tape. Linked up above....
Won't it screw up your blades to run plywood through the planer? All the glue will really muck them up. Better to use cheap pine
It's certainly not the best for a planer, however I plane lots of cutting board glue ups, so it's getting challenged with that too. It's a helical head, so I can rotate the cutters a few times before they'd need to be replaced.
What tape did you use?
It was some heavy duty 1" wide gorilla tape - I linked it up above. I ran the tape down the entire side. I didn't want it coming off halfway through the planer.
Nice video. But makes me appreciate my west coast weather. Burrrr. lol
Haha, ya, it was cold that day!
Very good!!
i got drunk 3 minutes in. he did warn me.
You used way too much tape you could of got away with using 1/4 of what you used. Great tip and one hell of a piece of walnut would of like to seen the final product.
@inside out Great point! But I really didn't want it to come off on this first attempt, so I erred on the side of too much. And there are some shots of the this great slab all sanded and finished in my walnut shelving unit video ua-cam.com/video/nyxTSVV2zts/v-deo.html Check it out!
This is the only right way all the others methods dont eliminate completely the snipe. Only by russian i seen that and i wander why any american didn't now that untill now. The russian put 4 inches sticks with glue only in the edges and with a small kick they came out easily . I'm George from Greece
Thanks for watching George! I can't wait until I can visit Greece again some day!
We all have probems with snipes, why not solve the point at the source: the machine?
When you have your machined tuned up as well as possible, there is always going to be some snipe due to the rollers applying and releasing pressure on the wood when it enters and exits. I just didn't want any on my walnut.
Why not use a planer sled?
@@partsdave8943 I have a planer sled - I just thought I'd share a different idea I had. Thanks for watching!
all joking aside, I have a used vintage ryobi AP-10 benchtop planer that has the fold down rollers along with the infeed/outfeeds. I have zero snipe for the first time In my life. I pad 50 bucks for it and bought some new German HSS blades for 30. total 80 bucks for a result that can compete with something sanded with 1000 grit sandpaper. its funny how much I've spent on previous planers that all got stolen, but created the worst snipe ever.
Inches is.
So easy
Ty
Neat
While this works, and it was a well made video, this technique doesn't "eliminate snipe", but rather discards the sniped edges of boards that go through a planer.
I think the title states that you can eliminate snipe on the valuable walnut. The sacrificial piece, not so much.
Awesome technique! Thanks for sharing. I can’t get over how many freeloaders are watching this video and not contributing with likes or comments.
Haha, thanks James! I'm happy to share some stuff with the community since I've gotten so much out of it myself.