I Can’t Believe They Missed It!!
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- In this video we show just how careless some shops can be. They are always going for the gravy work ignoring the serious safety concerns with the vehicle. @ford #automotive #automotiverepair #failure #ford #rust #rustbelt #nightmare
All the oil leaks kept the front intact, lol.
That was good lubrication my friend
British rustproofing
That’s how the cookie crumbles some times 😂 self lubricated system saved the front end frame
Rust belt or not, manufacturers aren't properly undercoating and painting vehicles for adequate corrosion resistance and there's no excuse.
There is no hope in the rust belt. The corrosion protection only can last for so long and once it's used up, you're done. Any car made of metal will rot when driven in salt for decades. This one did well making it 18 years.
@@AmandaHugenkiss2915
Well, if it lasted 18 years, then you're absolutely correct. However, I'm also correct about the auto manufacturers failure to properly treat later models for rust resistance.
Magnesium chloride it never stops attacking the metal even when dry any moisture in air accelerates the rust... Simple answer stop using magnesium chloride...switch to plain sand.... even more important the brake lines need to be stainless or ni copp.
@@AmandaHugenkiss291518 years of service, time for the crusher 🎉I recently sold a 2004 Grand Am for $500 with rust on it and 287k miles 3.4 v6 and it ran fine 😂
Car owners should also give an underneath car wash each time they drive in the snow to wash away all that salty snow. It helps to prevent such rust.
That's a extra independent rear suspension
Bluetooth Suspension...
Nothing connected! 😅
You wanted independence.. you got it!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's independent of the vehicle at this point!
Even worse when a shoddy shop gets the customer to spend 3k on engine repairs and the rust was there the whole time!
Purchased parts off a truck. The previous owner said that he got new tires put on it and while they were wrapping up his bill they said by the way your frame is completely rusted on both sides. It was about to fold in half. He was pissed!
Automatic oiler, to bad it never reached the rear.
That’s irreparable! A total loss.
The scrap guy will put on Craigslist and Market place for $3500 good runner drive it anywhere.
2006 rust belt car? straight to the junkyard with it
Don't do that. I can fix that. And you can get another 5 years out of it.
I can fix this
Not if it's taken care of. I drive a 1997 F150 daily in Michigan. Keep it clean, use something like Carwell underneath and inside rockers, and you're gravy.
@@CredibleHulk I'm talking about this specific car, the $ to repair that isn't worth it IMO.
@CredibleHulk Top Notch welding and Fabrication he can fix almost anything.
As a New York ex mechanic I only buy vehicles from south now and then Fluid Film under oil them. This eliminates safety and repair issues like this. My 300k mile under oiled 2006 titan is tired from towing 10k miles a year but minimal rust only on one fender and none under truck. FF oil coating is A+ stuff
That’s a good tip 👌🏻 do you use any kind of rust converter or anything before the FF oil?
Might as well go out a get another used 500 and part this one out, no way all that work would be below 5k
Sunk cost fallacy might come into play here.
Just dump it for scrap. Sure, the parts are worth something. If you are doing it yourself, how much time you got? Could take you long, long time.
@@markm0000 definitely not a fallacy in this case, you can pick up another 500 in the South or the West for much cheaper than it would be to fix this one.
My father had an Oldsmobile with the 3800 V6 that was a beater car. He drove it and put over 300k miles on it. At one point they said it rusted so badly that the engine was going to fall out. He found a guy that did classic car restoration to weld it up and made it better than new. :D
Send me same picture to Top Notch welding and fabrication, I can fix almost anything
Never buy a rust belt vehicle. Ever. 😂
I got lucky, 2013 Taurus we purchased had spent 7 years in Mexico before coming to the Great Lakes Area. It was legally title swapped to Mexico, and legally back to a US title. Not just sneaking into Mexico for an extended illegal stay without papers (taxes, registration & insurance). It's a great car we found, but we have to keep it clear, keep that salt dust from building up under the vehicle and eating the car each time it rains.
Call Top Notch welding and Fabrication
They're good as parts donors if you can get them for scrap prices.
The customers going to say you did that when you put it on the lift...🤣🤣
Calm down, those are the new five hundred Bluetooth subframe mounts. I just installed some on my 07 five hundred. They work great 👌
My nephew had a 2005 Ford 500 with same issue in Michigan. A bracket broke off the rear cradle assembly. I went to a pick and pull and tried to remove the cradle from another vehicle and both forward bolts broke. I gave up and walked away. I told my nephew that if the bolts break on his car, I won't be able to remove them without a lot of damage. I decided to inspect the front cradle and it was about to snap in half. It had an intermittent electrical issue. I suspected the GEM if it has one. I finally talked him into retiring the car and find something else. I told him that he needs to find something safer for him and his young sons.
I had an 2007 Ford five hundred and never had that problem and I live in northern new England. I did have to have both rocker panels repaired though which is a common problem on Ford cars.did not have any major oil leaks either and had 165,000 miles on it.
Great to see the potential problems, thanks!
The front cover on my 2018 Taurus is starting to seep and it only has 22000 miles on it
So glad I live in the south. Both my 20 plus year old vehicles are structurally rust free, especially my Durango. A shame such a nice sedan is disintegrating like this. You'd think whoever put the new tires on would have seen that 🤔
Had a 2005 ford freestyle that lasted to 290k miles. Had the same problem with the rear subframe. Surprisingly the CVT transmission was perfect.
Do they sell buckets of jb quick weld? If so, that should fix it
I lived in michigan for 40 years. When i moved to Alabama 6 years ago i felt out of place because i didnt see hardly any other trucks with rust on them. Ive since learned to appreciate southern cars that have no rust, due to working on the " Beast " of the rust belt. Instill love my old f150 xlt 5.4 3v triton. Its like the energizer bunny, it just keeps going and going. 😂
Those camshaft driven water pumps scare me!
That happened years ago to my wife's Escort. It went right from the mechanic to the junk yard.
No body shop touching that. It’s garbage at that point
That's something I would fix in the road where I live
Don't know what engine that is , but wondering does a 3.5 in a '12 Edge have any of those oil leak issues ?
1877karsforkids.....
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It has the uber rare 4 wheel steering option!
I bought real lemon in Ontario, rear subframe is completely gone on 2007 focus wagon, actually front subframe is very crunchy. Found another one by pure luck, vehicle is from prairie province, same year, but this car is literally brand new underneath because they don't use salt there.
Im surprised the trans is still good. most i have seen need trans nevr makes it long enough to rust out.
Ford is responsible cheap coatings and materials. This is the footage you bring to the dealership for your next negotiation.
Maybe if you didn't put it on the lift that wouldn't of happened 😂😂😂.
Just kidding, you are my go to ford guy on UA-cam. Very experienced and very intelligent, I greatly appreciate your presence for when need some ford advice on repairs! 👍
did it get fixed ?
If you tried to weld anything to this the rusty metal it just evaporates . You have to cut everything back to clean metal . Repair of that car would cost more than it is worth .
I live in the rust belt too, near Pittsburgh, and I have owned 76 different cars and trucks in my lifetime (I am 41 now), but I have NEVER seen a car rusted that badly before. 😮😮😮
This is one of the many reasons I am so glad to live in the south! Lived all over from Georgia, Florida and now North Carolina and none of my vehicles have a spot of rust! I recently sold a 1989 Volvo 240 and it had zero rust, sold my 1995 Silverado and it also had zero rust! I have family that lives in Michigan and neither of those particular vehicles would have made it 10 years without being ruined!
I'm constantly amazed how fast they rust. RIP rust in pieces.
Still a problem on the 2010+ Taurus, the same exact spot is rotting out on mine although it wasn't this bad so we just welded in some reinforcements.
Yikes... Looks like that area collected salt and dirt that would stay wet.
I’ve seen a lot of ford escapes suffer the same fate, the top half looks great and the bottom is crapped out 💩
Good catch!!
The state owes the owner a new car. Nuff said. JMHO
The shop probably noticed it, but wanted to make money on the oil leak repairs, so they didn't say anything to the owner.
BEST ownership that take care of the vehicle ever,,,, YEP,,, that's way,, the cheapest way ------ignore everything until something is nothing,,,,
No body shop will touch this cause they can't warranty it. The only way they would is to replace both rear frame rails and the rear subframe mounts and hardware. This is more than the vehicle's value. So much has to be removed from the vehicle to do the repairs. The interior has to be removed. Gas tank, wiring, rear subframe and more.
A welder, some steel plate and new hardware is the only way this one isn't totaled
Hopefully you turn that down. You guys have state inspections?
I flat out refused, I don’t need the money.
@@FordTechMakuloco
You refused to fix the oil leaks or refused to rebuild the rear subframe?
Or was it all of the above?
Next question, what do you tell your customer about their vehicle?
I’m sorry, it’s too far gone to warrant repairing?
Unfortunately, in these rust belt states, they are now using brine on the roads to help prevent ice buildup before a storm comes through and then they go back over that with a salt blend after the brine can no longer fight the refreeze!
The brine is the hardest on car bodies and undercarriages, because it gets into every tiny crevice and stays there!
It really doesn’t seem to matter how many times you wash your undercarriage, that stuff is still lurking in the tiny spaces and causing catastrophic damage!
That would fail in NY - Suspension attaching point. Rust/rot in other places could be ok though.
Illinois only does emissions in certain counties, no safety inspections. If they did half the cars would be off the road
wool wax prevents this and its simple to apply yourself. people are so clueless
FORD $500 (five hundred...) That's what it's actually worth (still, dangerous on highway or railroad tracks)
Its a mustang, youll be able to find a hundred of em with totaled front ends so you can cut the rear out of one for cheap and glue it in the rusty crusty..
It's 18 years old!! It wouldn't have lasted that long in Nova Scotia.
That's the reason I spray Wool Wax on my frame every other year
So what did you tell the customer about this and what was their response
Wtf? That's why we have an annual obligatory MOT test in the UK for most vehicles used on public roads.
That's when you weld in some angle iron a foot long towards the front and reinforce it. Aint gonna be oem but will work for a few years. Buddies 90's gm 3800 front subrame is welded solid to the car as well
When a car is new add a oil can under hood. Run little rubber lines under body . Fill can wirh trans fluid and crack it open slightly as u drive ur car is protected from rust
Aren't manufacturers suppose to treat vehicles to resist rust? What a shame to trash a vehicle for this.
What eas lifting ybe vehicle? 😳
Usually that rear rocker is toast when the suspension is rusted as well, i would get a safer rear lifting point, or a bar to connect those rear lift arms!
All you have to do is pressure wash under the car. I do it all the time and wipe down under doors and wheel wells with salt inhibitor when I have to drive through snow. It takes five minutes to do. I don’t understand how people can be so lazy.
It's different when you're driving through ice snow and salt everyday 6-8 months outta the year
That car is toast. I don't think any repair shop would put themselves in jeopardy of a lawsuit when the repair fails and the car is involved in a accident.
So here In canada we pay heavy taxes on carbon emissions, where's the accountability for these companies that turn a 17yr car into trash?
Nothing lasts forever. 17 or 18 years is a perfectly reasonable life expectancy for a front-wheel drive unibody vehicle.
Woooow it’s very fail nice 2 see you my friend
Wow! Unreal - gonna crawl under my 2016 Escape and take a good look. Live in Chicago rust belt. Rear door bottoms and hood rusting 116000 miles. Hoping trans will hold up for more miles too. Read that's the weak link. Love the 2.0l turbo engine!
The weak link on a 2016 is the block cracking between cylinders 2 and 3. Brian has another video on this
@@JimBronson thx for info! Will checkout the video
Is there a part 2? Or is this car getting recycled?
Scrap?
You know i live in the rust belt and salty roads so bad black paint will be white after winter but ive never had a car rust through any frame yet. Now bodu panels and rocker panels all end up with rust if not coated but ive always had good frames.. i do coat my stuff myself though.. not every year but once every 5..
I just saw this on a 2000 Ford 250 here in Florida. It was on a little but here pay here lot. I've been looking for a good project truck. When I politely pointed it out and stated this was a Northern salt truck the guy went ballistic threatened me and ran me off his luck.
The frame was gone, definitely dangerous.
It would have been fine if you left it on the ground 😂
Wep my 07 escape frame cracked. And my 11 ford focus has got the cancer in the middle. Just patched the rear frame on a 2000 ranger with only 60k Miles on it.
I have looked under brand new Fords in dealerships and found they already have rust. These are new cars that have never been on the road. I was shocked.
I don’t understand why people don’t wash underneath their cars with some kind of salt neutralizer wash to stop this kind of thing.
No amount of washing stops this. Water gets into places driving you can’t replicate by going to a carwash.
@@THETOPGLOCK there are neutralizers you can use. Normal soap and water will not help. I get my semi washed with it at truck wash places. No rust on it period.
@@F150customs Oh I know there are neutralizers. What I’m saying it’s physically impossible to reach certain areas with a power washer. When you’re driving 50mph on a wet salty road it goes in every nook and cranny. I do slow it by fluid filming our cars every fall. I live in Michigan and I despise winter. Haha
Yep no matter what you do, if you drive in salt, it will rust. You can allow it but you cannot stop it
@@AmandaHugenkiss2915 if you can’t stop it tell me how their are semi’s on the road 20yrs old that drive in the snow every year and don’t have a single bit of rust on them. It’s called proper maintenance. Meaning getting that salt and chemicals washed with neutralizers on a regular basis. Of course washing underneath a car or pickup is Much more difficult than a semi.
Brian move to Montana ! No rust here !
Eagle-Globe-Anchor ! 💪
Dang! That's all I have to say on that. Keep up the good informative videos.
Sounds like an inhabitable place to live 😃
I have a 2007 and it’s crap. I hate that car it’s always having one problem after the next. There’s a reason it only lasted 3 years.
Holy Moly !!
Real easy fix. Just weld on a new car.
Ahh yes the bluetooth subframes 😂
The correct repair part code is C-A-M-R-Y
"Scotty K has entered the chat." You aren't wrong though.
Unreal. It's time to part it out.
I live in the rust belt get your frame coated last longer
I 🙏 for you ❤️
Omg look at that damn !
A few tubes of JB Weld will make it good as new.
THIS is why you get under any vehicle that you are thinking of buying! If the seller will not let you look under it then RUN away!😊
Held together by gravity and rust!
Yikes! She's done for im afraid.
Galvanized steel buys you time. Shame Ford doesn’t use it. That being said, only a disciplined own can prevent these types of failures and/or catch them before it’s done.
Fluid film for the win.
Time to send that car to the salvage yard!
Moooooove!
Watching from Florida asking what's rust? lol
I've seen vehicles in Florida since new rust out bad .they rust from the inside out.
Time for a 4x4 and hose clamps
They will need sprayfoam as well. It will fill the gaps, thereby holding the wood in place.😂
Spray foam it...good as new 😂
Looks fine to me
Will probably be seeing this car on just rolled in channel in about two years with a great foam/ziptie repair for this.
Cheap steel !!!😅😅😅😅😅
Yikes!!!! Ummmm new back end?
"The back of my car bounces a lot. I replaced the springs but it's still hopping."
That still has another 100000 miles left based on the hoopties I see
The truck is not worth the repairs if I was honest I would not even bother to tell my customer cuz I’m so honest that I couldn’t bring myself to even tell them the repair cost in labor alone. But I see this a lot as well here in my shops rust belts but if it were to be done and worth it (IMO) it would have to be to a classic restoration or antique but this truck is not.
Just a everyday ford thing