@@thesocker7920lol that a bit over kill with the cpu ryzen 7 7800xd and the rx 6800 but if you do plan to upgrade for rx 7900 xt you be fine but just my opinion I would put extra money into a good gpu instead a overkill cpu.
@@thesocker7920 Are you only gaming? I would suggest going to one of the Budget AM5 platform CPU's if only for gaming at 1440p. Unless you plan to play 4k in the future and upgrade your GPU in next 2-3 years. If not planning to upgrade at all I would personally just go AM4 platform and stick to the Ryzen 5600 and the 6800 GPU. Thing absolutely destroys 1440p gaming.
I got a 6700 xt a few months ago, while I can't run every game on max settings with max fps, It's still a massive upgrade from the rx 580 I was using, most games I can still get about 100-165 steady fps, even on god of war 2018 which I just got on max settings im still getting a steady 110 fps
recently upgraded into a ryzen 7 5700x3d for $190 and an rx 6800 for $360 to play games @ 1440p 144hz. initially, i thought i needed a beefier gpu (rx 7800 xt), but when i actually used this combo and stopped watching all the benchmark vids, i found that all the games i play ran buttery smooth and that i was perfectly fine with this combo.
Tell me more about this. I have a 5700x3d with an rx6600 @1080p right now but I feel it won’t be enough when I go ultra wide 1440p. I’d want to play on high or ultra on my sim racing games. Feels like I’m getting caught in the fps trap too
@@dominicaubrey4588 I'd recommend upgrading your GPU to the RX 6750 XT or higher (watch a benchmark video in your favorite game at 1440p before making a decision)
Back in March I built a AM4 platform build using the Ryzen 5 5600 and the 6800. Use stock fan on the Ryzen 5 5600 never runs hot. I get 115+ FPS in every game I play at high settings 95-100+ in ultra settings in most games. Phenomenal value build as I only spent $900 to do it.
I run a 5950x3d with an Intel A770 16g. At first launch it was a little rocky, Intel has been flooding out drivers for the last year. Now I can run virtually anything at high-ultra settings at minimum 100fps.
2:07 why is anyone looking at any 4060 for 1440p gaming. The reason the 16GB Ti version did not increase it's bus size is because it is made for 1080p gaming. The 16GB was done for content creators, mainly AI/LLM because many were buying used 3060 for the higher VRAM. This is why Nvidia didnt send the card out for testing, especially since majority are game testers. But I did see a few productivity testers test it.
I have the 4080 super and it's perfect because I can play competitive games at 165 fps on high settings on my 1440p monitor, but then I can also run cyberpunk at 4k, max settings with path tracing, with a locked 60 fps on my 70 inch living room TV.
@Greenalex89 That's where DLSS, Ray reconstruction, and Frame Gen come in. I was pretty skeptical, but those software features really make a difference.
@@zaofactor sure they do, but they come with a price. the whole DLSS frame gen concept is a lazy cop out from the game companies when it comes to optimizing..
@s.muller8688 DLSS And Ray Reconstruction literally have no real downsides, especially in quality mode. It's literally free frames. But all games don't lend themselves to frame gen as much as they would like you to think.
minute silence for my friend who didnt listen to me, he got 4060 ti 16 gb proart model for 602 euros , rx 7900 gre cost 652 euros . we play same games 1440p ( im on 7900 gre) u can imagine how he feels now when my card beats even his RT+ FG setup haha
@@ShadowGamingPC1 yeah :( he totaly went nvidia geek for a day even tho we talked he get same as me xD here nvidia cards are always 100-200 euros more than in us
I play cs2 competitive, I run a 5800X3D and a 6950XT always went nvidia before but will never go back tbh, prefer the amd software and don't care about ray tracing etc
two things: 1) can I add these gpu's to a ryzen 5 5600x? 2) what power supply do I need? I believe 650w will not be enough for 1440p, I should probably think about 750w?
Whats the case of getting the 7900xt over the 7900xtx for high 1440p non ray tracing gaming? I cant figure out which to look at due to reviews all being at least a year old
What gpu you recommendet for me, i have 7 5800X3D and i play cs2? I have now 7800 xt but i think i have some strange lags with my 2 screen setup and i want come back nvidia bcs easyer..
Hello and thx again for your informative video! I have a question, here in my country rx 7700xt has the same price with rx 6800, what u would suggest and why? Thx in advanced
Unless you do other things than gaming ( like content creation / editing etc ) always go for AMD you will get a better price/performance ratio, and bad AMD drivers is a myth.
Been running 5800X + 6900XT for nearly 3 years now, plenty of performance. Sadly that myth killed something in my system with a driver update a while back and it’s gotten so bad that I have to buy a new one. AMD customer service has been nothing but top tier for me but it doesn’t change the current state of things for me. Giving team green a chance for a change now, even though it REALLY hurts the wallet.
I just got my 4070 Super for the same price as 7900 GRE to pair with a Ryzen 5 7600. I choose the 4070 Super mainly because of the 70-100 watt difference in power it uses. From now on I'll be saving money each day I use the 4070 Super as electricity costs quite a bit in Europe. A lot of people overlook this part when choosing a GPU.
Well, lets say its 100W more an u play 6h/day, 5 days/week on FULL load. That makes 45€ difference between the 2 if the price is 0,29€/kwh within a year. The 4070 super would start paying off after a year if u hardcore game every day almost and on full load (unrealistic). But the 7900GRE is amazing at overclocking+ undervolting and u can get a almost 7900XT lvl performance and still have 16 gigs of VRAM. So u can have way more fps for way longer years than with the 4070 super since it wont be VRAm limited in 2 years.
@@Greenalex89 Prices for both cards were the same in Europe 600$. Also electricity is bit ore expensive here. I really wanted to go AMD but the difference in watts/h made my choice easier. I also play at 1440p only and not the latest tittles. I hate to say it but in this situation Nvidia was the "smartest" choice. I did make the switch from intel CPU to AMD for this new build.
Can’t decide between the 7900gre and 4070 super. Got a 7700x and the pc will be all white. The price difference isn’t much so that doesn’t really matter the nvidia is like $50 more. Just can’t decide. My son will be playing Fortnite on it and I’ll play some Minecraft maybe some GTA. Which one would you recommend? I’m getting a steel legend motherboard and there’s a matching 7900 gre and amd has more vram but I like the efficiency of the 4070s.. bout to flip a coin lol.
rtx 4060 8gb (new generation dlss + fg) or rtx 3060 12gb dlss, no fg. Which one is better for 1440p? Please don't mention the 4080 or 4070, or any AMD brand, because the stock of AMD GPUs is sold out in my country 😂😂
i have a rx 7600 and a i5 13400f on 1080p but i want to go for 1440p with a rx 6800 xt and i7 14700k i know the cpu is abit of overkill but for the price in my country its worth it (i live in a third world country and the prices are just a balloon) if i find a 7800 xt for a fair price i would get that do you have any suggestions ?
Erm, i suggest you play Horizon Forbidden West, even at 1080p, with my 7800xt, even though it is perfectly smooth, never dipping lower than 60fps, the memory it uses at 1080p is roughly 10-12GB, it will likely be higher in higher resolutions, unless, memory is utilized differently....
@@salim-z6i Are you from US? There's a 929$ pre-built with Ryzen 5 7600, rtx 4060 ,32gb 6000mt/s ram and 1tb storage nvme If you don't want to build If you want to build yourself go with: B650 mobo ~160$ Ryzen ~180$ RAM ~100$ PSU ~60-70 I think
I'm looking to upgrade my i7-6700k and GTX 1070 and I'm considering the 7800X3D coupled with a 7900 GRE or a 4070 Super. My main game is Escape From Tarkov.
I have bought the rtx 4070ti super and I am very happy with it. It has 16 gb vram,dlss3 with frame generation. It would be enough for 1440p ultra gaming.
@@ShadowGamingPC1 np. idk if its just on my location but I got my 6800xt for equivalent of $315 usd used. And oh damn its a beast if you dont really care about rt and upscaling.
I recently bought : Ryzen 5 7600X 32GB ram DDR5 6400 AMD 7800XT 2TB NVME PCIE Is worth it? there are better options with the same or less budget?. I would like recommendations of best monitors under -200 to play 2k. Excellent video, keep on it !.
thanks bro! great system for 1440p resolution, if I had to change something, it would be the ram, I would've picked a 6000 cl30 kit and try to upgrade to the RX 7900 GRE (only if the price made sense ofc) here you have a nice monitor for the price amzn.to/3xPOq4u, if you can spend a bit more, I'd go with this one instead amzn.to/4cVHkKS
Best value would be turning it all in and getting to the AM4 platform if you have no desire to upgrade down the road. Like on my end I will just build fresh every 3-4 years anyways. Everyone sells going for AM5 for upgradable path but you can't beat the value to performance of buying AM4 currently. I saved $250-300 going this path for the same performance by utilizing sells at the time. $900 total cost for 120+ FPS in almost every game high/ultra settings.
it really depends, if your fav games won't require more than 12gb I'd go for the 4070 super, it's newer and it provides basically the same level of performance, but, if you require more vram, and the 3090 used is reliable, go for that one!
Building my first pc in 2 weeks Would be great if shadow could reply will a 7600x be ok and CORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6400MHz CL32 Intel XMP iCUE Compatible Computer Memory - Black and Silicon Power 1TB UD90 NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCle M.2 SSD R/W up to 5,000/4,800 MB/s (SP01KGBP44UD9005) SP. And Corsair RM750e (2023) Fully Modular Low-Noise ATX Power Supply And Gigabyte B650M D3HP AX Motherboard and DEEPCOOL AK400 Performance Single Tower Heatpipe CPU Cooler. Don’t want a bottle neck also how many frames would I get just want a smooth playing pc with high enough frames sorry for the way I’ve typed it new to this stuff.
You don't need 6400mhz ram, 6000mhz is cheaper and gives nearly the same performance as 6400mhz This b650 is pretty basic, if you wanted to upgrade CPU to Ryzen 7 in future I wouldn't recommend but it's ok budget friendly The PSU is veryyyy expensive over 100$ for PSU that's crazy There are cheaper alternatives CPU cooler is alright 😘 What's your GPU???
@@He_him7 every game in 1440p resolution will be smooth :) I would consider changing PSU for cheaper one because this is too expensive, search little bit and you'll find something cheaper with same specs, sorry for not giving any models etc, there's storm going on and even replying is pain :( And the RAM for 6000mhz ;)
budget reasonable :( what is your budget ? in my mind if u on 1440p monitor, min upgrade i would go is 100% more performance, that would be smting like rx 7800 xt . budget one is rx 6800 on newegg
should I buy these parts and keep them under $1000? CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (gifted) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X Refined SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($18.89 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI MAG B550M MORTAR MAX WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($69.98 @ Amazon) Storage: Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($102.97 @ B&H) Video Card: PowerColor Red Devil OC Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card ($549.99 @ Amazon) Case: Cooler Master Q300L V2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (Purchased) Power Supply: Segotep GP 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply Case Fan: Phanteks M25-120 PWM 84.26 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack ($20.84 @ Amazon) Custom: Cable Matters 2 Pack 4 Pin PWM 3 Computer Case Fan Splitter Cable - 12 Inches ($8.98) Custom: GPU Support Bracket, BERLAT Graphics Card GPU Brace Support, Adjustable Height Graphics Card Holder, Video Card Sag Holder Bracket, Universal VGA Graphics Card Holder - All-Aluminum Metal Materi ($5.99 @ Amazon) Total: $917.63 questions I would like answered: -can I make this cheaper without losing too much performance? -is there a better mico motherboard with good wifi and Bluetooth (for cheaper, like the MSI PRO B550M-VC WIFI Micro ATX but better? -is there better performing 2 TB storage? -is there better (16x2) RAM? -is there a better graphics card I can use? (for around the same price, or cheaper) *note I want to use this PC to play games on high settings like cyberpunk, and modded Minecraft, but also CAD (Onshape) -are the 4 total fans (including the pre-installed case fan) enough for cooling? -is a better power supply needed? (I would like to keep the price low) sorry for the long list lol any help is wanted!!
You could go $200 cheaper by buying the 6800 on Amazon right now. Depending on your monitor it will pair with that ryzen 5 5600 for 110 FPS+ in almost any game at high/ultra settings. And lower settings for competitive will top 180+ in Warzone for example. I would recommend going to 750W power supply. Best to go higher wattage and not cut corners on the PSU.
From the 1st few minutes of your video I think you need to rethink this. Due to the most under thought about piece of Computer system gaming or otherwise depending on use is the Monitor. You can have the best as of to date RTX4090 and not get any more than 60 fps of 1080p if all you have is a 60-75 hz 1080p monitor. Order should be monitor then GPU. Then you can worry about other bottle necks such as CPUs Mem and so on.
cheapest at world 6700xt/6750xt or rx6800 without dlss and the stuff who needs 12-17gb vram (6700xt at german EOL and costs now 500-1000€) :D till 580 no nvidias :D
Im stuck trying to decide between the 4070 super, 7900 gre, 4070 ti super, and the 7900 xt... 1440p 144hz gaming is the goal, and i dont want to upgrade again for around 5 years. On the other hand, I do need a monitor upgrade as well.
all 3 GPUs will be enough for 1440p 144hz, but if you want it to last that long, then the 4070 Ti super is the one that will age the best in my opinion (unless FSR gets improved to the point where is the same as DLSS)
What are you playing game wise? I don't see any reason to have to spend more than $350 - 500 to game at 144Hz 1440p. You would be just fine with 7800 XT, 6800 XT, or 6800. My Ryzen 5 5600 + 6800 build gets 160+ on any competitive shooter game, I get 120+ in most areas when playing Hogwarts Legacy. Honestly I rarely see the Frames drop below the 110-120 mark at high/ultra settings. I guess if you want something that always stays 140+ in all settings one of those is great, but I just don't think the cost is worth it unless you have the money to blow. Just my thoughts but no wrong decision.
@@andrewroof8042 game wise things like baldur's gate 3, helldivers 2, the finals, etc. A mix of story driven rpgs and shooters The idea is to upgrade to 1440p and achieve 144hz, high to ultra settings today, then ramp the settings down over time until I get down to 40ish fps low to medium settings, by then I'll be due for an upgrade B/c of that I'm thinking that going a little bit overkill might be worth. I know "futureproofing" isn't really a thing but I don't expect the same level of performance for that long
Depends on your needs and wants. If you don't already have something I would suggest just going with 6700 XT. Lots of people selling them to go for their upgrades.
I bought my fist Radeon card (6800) earlier this year. I will never go back to Nvidia unless they come more in line with Radeon pricing. The 6800 was only $380 on sale at that time and it destroys everythin within a $100 price point. I wanted the 7800 XT but I didn't want to spend $120-140 more.
2:43 ok i can tell where you are going already. So I will say it for you now. If you are a hardcore gamer and you watch your pocket, and even if you don't but you mainly looking GPU for gaming, then AMD is your best bet. If you a hard content creator and you game, you should never look at AMD, only if maybe you use DaVinci Resolve for video editing. Nvidia is KING in balancing both at a high level. All you gamers seem to think GPUs, especially Nvidia's are only made for gamers. And if raytracing is not important to you, then stick to AMD.
its obvious brother, its the pricing lol why we are like dodging bullets here? almost nvidia is overpriced as fck of course people will complain and sht on that card but hey if u have the money then its all goods in the hood lol tbh i like 4070 i just dont like the pricing its like they are scamming me and making joke to my face lol
@@rxxdlb i like the 4070 for its performance and power consumption its less than 200w tbh and the pricing is still kinda overpriced since in my place it cost 685 usd now which is a big what the fck did u get yours around 685 too? idk but i feel like 12gb shoud be around less than 500 or probably 450 and 520 usd+ should be 16gb vram other if not its feels like a scam since its so hard to play 1440p with less than 12gb i mean 10gb is kinda fair but 8gb is like at the edge resulting to bad game experience
Can’t decide between the 7900gre and 4070 super. Got a 7700x and the pc will be all white. The price difference isn’t much so that doesn’t really matter the nvidia is like $50 more. Just can’t decide. My son will be playing Fortnite on it and I’ll play some Minecraft maybe some GTA. Which one would you recommend? I’m getting a steel legend motherboard and there’s a matching 7900 gre and amd has more vram but I like the efficiency of the 4070s.. bout to flip a coin lol.
@@Denis_.97 I was leaning more towards the 7900 gre but ya I don’t know still. Hoping they both go on sale for Amazon prime day. We’ll see if the gre drops $100 under the 4070s I’ll get the gre.. have to get a white gpu and they’re usually a little more expensive.
@@joshuacollins789 well 4070 super is a better choice long-term due to dlss tecnology and ray tracing is significally better then amd's but the 7900 gre is better for 1080p gaming. So 1440 p gaming you should get rtx 4070 super 1080p gaming get 7900gre
I’ve been really happy with my 6800. Paired with Ryzen 7600, it has done everything I’ve asked it to do
amazing combo
I'm going with the same GPU, if my budget decides it. CPU on the other hand is the 7800x3d.
@@thesocker7920lol that a bit over kill with the cpu ryzen 7 7800xd and the rx 6800 but if you do plan to upgrade for rx 7900 xt you be fine but just my opinion I would put extra money into a good gpu instead a overkill cpu.
@@iamjustme4542 Yeah the bundle at microcenter was just too good of a deal...
@@thesocker7920 Are you only gaming? I would suggest going to one of the Budget AM5 platform CPU's if only for gaming at 1440p. Unless you plan to play 4k in the future and upgrade your GPU in next 2-3 years. If not planning to upgrade at all I would personally just go AM4 platform and stick to the Ryzen 5600 and the 6800 GPU. Thing absolutely destroys 1440p gaming.
I got a 6700 xt a few months ago, while I can't run every game on max settings with max fps, It's still a massive upgrade from the rx 580 I was using, most games I can still get about 100-165 steady fps, even on god of war 2018 which I just got on max settings im still getting a steady 110 fps
awesome!!!
Sick! is this on 1440p? Im planning to get the same and switch to 1440p
recently upgraded into a ryzen 7 5700x3d for $190 and an rx 6800 for $360 to play games @ 1440p 144hz.
initially, i thought i needed a beefier gpu (rx 7800 xt), but when i actually used this combo and stopped watching all the benchmark vids, i found that all the games i play ran buttery smooth and that i was perfectly fine with this combo.
that happens to most of us, we fall into the "higher fps" trap
Tell me more about this. I have a 5700x3d with an rx6600 @1080p right now but I feel it won’t be enough when I go ultra wide 1440p. I’d want to play on high or ultra on my sim racing games.
Feels like I’m getting caught in the fps trap too
@@dominicaubrey4588 I'd recommend upgrading your GPU to the RX 6750 XT or higher (watch a benchmark video in your favorite game at 1440p before making a decision)
Back in March I built a AM4 platform build using the Ryzen 5 5600 and the 6800. Use stock fan on the Ryzen 5 5600 never runs hot. I get 115+ FPS in every game I play at high settings 95-100+ in ultra settings in most games. Phenomenal value build as I only spent $900 to do it.
great build!
I run a 5950x3d with an Intel A770 16g. At first launch it was a little rocky, Intel has been flooding out drivers for the last year. Now I can run virtually anything at high-ultra settings at minimum 100fps.
5950x3d doesn't exist
@@Synful_ he probably meant 7950x3d, although, that's a pretty far drop from the cpu to the gpu lol
@@GlacikingTheIceColdKing yea massive, pairing an Intel with amd x3d should be criminal lol
Iv actually really enjoyed the 4080, going to hand it down to my son’s PC soon
2:07 why is anyone looking at any 4060 for 1440p gaming. The reason the 16GB Ti version did not increase it's bus size is because it is made for 1080p gaming. The 16GB was done for content creators, mainly AI/LLM because many were buying used 3060 for the higher VRAM. This is why Nvidia didnt send the card out for testing, especially since majority are game testers. But I did see a few productivity testers test it.
What is your favorite Gaming GPU right now? Mine is the RTX 4070 Ti Super (my second favorite is the RX 6750 XT)
for me, it's definitely going to be my 6950 xt! its such a amazing gpu for its price point and it crushes at 1440p!
probably a 4070 (ti, super, ti super, idk) or a 7800 xt
Mine is the 4070 super, please oil up 🙏
@@mltprngkim391 ayoooo
Looking for a used one for under 100 that can do 4K also. Whats best one?
To be fair depending on what game your CPU could be important
I have the 4080 super and it's perfect because I can play competitive games at 165 fps on high settings on my 1440p monitor, but then I can also run cyberpunk at 4k, max settings with path tracing, with a locked 60 fps on my 70 inch living room TV.
It's expensive but well worth it. 😊
even the 4090 cant run path tracing above 25 fps in Cyberpunk phantom liberty in 4k native..
@Greenalex89 That's where DLSS, Ray reconstruction, and Frame Gen come in. I was pretty skeptical, but those software features really make a difference.
@@zaofactor sure they do, but they come with a price. the whole DLSS frame gen concept is a lazy cop out from the game companies when it comes to optimizing..
@s.muller8688 DLSS And Ray Reconstruction literally have no real downsides, especially in quality mode. It's literally free frames. But all games don't lend themselves to frame gen as much as they would like you to think.
minute silence for my friend who didnt listen to me, he got 4060 ti 16 gb proart model for 602 euros , rx 7900 gre cost 652 euros . we play same games 1440p ( im on 7900 gre) u can imagine how he feels now when my card beats even his RT+ FG setup haha
@@gogaming5449 I feel bad for your friend :(
@@ShadowGamingPC1 yeah :( he totaly went nvidia geek for a day even tho we talked he get same as me xD here nvidia cards are always 100-200 euros more than in us
My 4060 is playing all my games just fine no issues. And I am currently playing The First Descendant.
It def plays just fine. It just doesn't have great value to performance. many better options for the new builder.
@@andrewroof8042 My 4060 costed me only $200 dollars brand new. I would way that is a good price to performance for me.
Same
I play cs2 competitive, I run a 5800X3D and a 6950XT always went nvidia before but will never go back tbh, prefer the amd software and don't care about ray tracing etc
7600xt 16 GB is the most popular mining GPU for the price already stock out
what coin are people mining now? how much dollar per day?
6800 with the i5 12600kf is a killer 1440 combo for cheap! Loving it.
two things:
1) can I add these gpu's to a ryzen 5 5600x?
2) what power supply do I need? I believe 650w will not be enough for 1440p, I should probably think about 750w?
Whats the case of getting the 7900xt over the 7900xtx for high 1440p non ray tracing gaming? I cant figure out which to look at due to reviews all being at least a year old
What gpu you recommendet for me, i have 7 5800X3D and i play cs2? I have now 7800 xt but i think i have some strange lags with my 2 screen setup and i want come back nvidia bcs easyer..
I have a 3080/7800x3d, and want to achieve 1440p/360hz. 4070ti? I see a 4080 for 800 on Ebay
Hello and thx again for your informative video! I have a question, here in my country rx 7700xt has the same price with rx 6800, what u would suggest and why? Thx in advanced
@@michealevag5685 7700 xt, newer architecture and av1 encoding
Got a barely used 3070 for 300$. It’s been a very Good high settings 1440p gpu and I’ve really enjoyed it.(gigabyte vision)
4070 TI Super is a 4080-lite, same die and VRAM even. It has better raytracing than all AMD cards and plays 4k with few exceptions.
that's the one I want
@@Synful_ get the 4080 super
@igotthejuice2090 not worth the extra money and my psu isn't big enough
@@Synful_ $200 well worth it
Unless you do other things than gaming ( like content creation / editing etc ) always go for AMD you will get a better price/performance ratio, and bad AMD drivers is a myth.
Light/mid editing and content creation is possible :)
But not anything heavy 🪨
Been running 5800X + 6900XT for nearly 3 years now, plenty of performance. Sadly that myth killed something in my system with a driver update a while back and it’s gotten so bad that I have to buy a new one. AMD customer service has been nothing but top tier for me but it doesn’t change the current state of things for me. Giving team green a chance for a change now, even though it REALLY hurts the wallet.
You gave so much clarity for me, thanks, i am going with 4070 super 👌
I just got my 4070 Super for the same price as 7900 GRE to pair with a Ryzen 5 7600. I choose the 4070 Super mainly because of the 70-100 watt difference in power it uses. From now on I'll be saving money each day I use the 4070 Super as electricity costs quite a bit in Europe. A lot of people overlook this part when choosing a GPU.
Well, lets say its 100W more an u play 6h/day, 5 days/week on FULL load. That makes 45€ difference between the 2 if the price is 0,29€/kwh within a year. The 4070 super would start paying off after a year if u hardcore game every day almost and on full load (unrealistic). But the 7900GRE is amazing at overclocking+ undervolting and u can get a almost 7900XT lvl performance and still have 16 gigs of VRAM. So u can have way more fps for way longer years than with the 4070 super since it wont be VRAm limited in 2 years.
@@Greenalex89 Prices for both cards were the same in Europe 600$. Also electricity is bit ore expensive here. I really wanted to go AMD but the difference in watts/h made my choice easier. I also play at 1440p only and not the latest tittles. I hate to say it but in this situation Nvidia was the "smartest" choice. I did make the switch from intel CPU to AMD for this new build.
I'm running Ryzen5 7500f with an rtx 3080ti am I cooked for ultrawide 1440p 21:9?
Nah ur fine for years to come
Can’t decide between the 7900gre and 4070 super. Got a 7700x and the pc will be all white. The price difference isn’t much so that doesn’t really matter the nvidia is like $50 more. Just can’t decide. My son will be playing Fortnite on it and I’ll play some Minecraft maybe some GTA. Which one would you recommend? I’m getting a steel legend motherboard and there’s a matching 7900 gre and amd has more vram but I like the efficiency of the 4070s.. bout to flip a coin lol.
hahaha flip a coin is the right answer tbh, for those games, Vram is not important, and both GPUs will work perfect
@@ShadowGamingPC1 Thanks ya I’m just waiting for Amazon prime day and see how much of a sale there is on each and get one then.
Love u Valentino keep on the grind hopefully you can get some of the traction you deserve!
thanks brother I appreciate your support!
rtx 4060 8gb (new generation dlss + fg) or rtx 3060 12gb dlss, no fg. Which one is better for 1440p? Please don't mention the 4080 or 4070, or any AMD brand, because the stock of AMD GPUs is sold out in my country 😂😂
4060
7900 GRE or RTX 4070 Super? Only WQHD
i have a rx 7600 and a i5 13400f on 1080p but i want to go for 1440p with a rx 6800 xt and i7 14700k i know the cpu is abit of overkill but for the price in my country its worth it (i live in a third world country and the prices are just a balloon) if i find a 7800 xt for a fair price i would get that
do you have any suggestions ?
You don't have to upgrade CPU, it's good enough for 6800XT in 1440p
Erm, i suggest you play Horizon Forbidden West, even at 1080p, with my 7800xt, even though it is perfectly smooth, never dipping lower than 60fps, the memory it uses at 1080p is roughly 10-12GB, it will likely be higher in higher resolutions, unless, memory is utilized differently....
im sick of playing on low quality i have a 3050 and i5 11400 what you suggest for an upgrade for 1000 s budget
@@Aegie Aerocool Integrator 500W and team group elite ram ddr4 8gb 3200 ×2 and H510M pro thank you for your help
@@salim-z6i Are you from US?
There's a 929$ pre-built with Ryzen 5 7600, rtx 4060 ,32gb 6000mt/s ram and 1tb storage nvme
If you don't want to build
If you want to build yourself go with:
B650 mobo ~160$
Ryzen ~180$
RAM ~100$
PSU ~60-70 I think
@@Aegie no i'm from morocco that is impossible to find a gamer pc with that configuration for 1000 s
@@salim-z6i I don't see my comments
@@salim-z6i any names of Morocco shops so I can build you something nice
I'm looking to upgrade my i7-6700k and GTX 1070 and I'm considering the 7800X3D coupled with a 7900 GRE or a 4070 Super. My main game is Escape From Tarkov.
both the 4070 super and 7900 gre will give you excellent performance
U will get huge performance just from the cpu upgrade..tarkov is cpu hunger
Is a 4070 super and 7700x combo good for 3440:1440p? Ultrawide 1440p.
@@JaronPalone yes!
I got 4070 on play 4k and 1440 p I'm happy
I have bought the rtx 4070ti super and I am very happy with it. It has 16 gb vram,dlss3 with frame generation. It would be enough for 1440p ultra gaming.
No mentions for 6800xt? I was expecting it to be on this list just for the fact on how good it is still today. Anyways, Great Video! Subbed
The 6800 XT is goated that is right, I missed it, my bad! and thanks :)
@@ShadowGamingPC1 np. idk if its just on my location but I got my 6800xt for equivalent of $315 usd used. And oh damn its a beast if you dont really care about rt and upscaling.
By the middle of next year these won't be the best for 1440p but hopefully they go down in price when the 50 series releases for this tier of cards.
I agree, but the 4070 Ti Super, 4070 Super, 7900 XT and 7900 GRE will be relevant still
@@ShadowGamingPC1 Yeah. I should still have my RTX 4070 Ti Super through next generation.
Big thumbs up to all the 8-bit minecrafters out there that decided they needed a rtx4090 with a 256-bit bus!
Cheap? I think you meant ONLY in USA ?
yes US only
not really in the UK is cheap too way cheaper than Europe
RX 6800xt is out of the stock most of the time so I am grabbing a RX 7700 Xt
check rx 6800 on newegg its 350$ , no brainer deal
Get the 7800xt instead
4060 Ti 8gb or 6750xt for the same price?
6750xt all day. You're gonna want that 16GB.
I recently bought :
Ryzen 5 7600X
32GB ram DDR5 6400
AMD 7800XT
2TB NVME PCIE
Is worth it? there are better options with the same or less budget?.
I would like recommendations of best monitors under -200 to play 2k.
Excellent video, keep on it !.
thanks bro!
great system for 1440p resolution, if I had to change something, it would be the ram, I would've picked a 6000 cl30 kit and try to upgrade to the RX 7900 GRE (only if the price made sense ofc)
here you have a nice monitor for the price amzn.to/3xPOq4u, if you can spend a bit more, I'd go with this one instead amzn.to/4cVHkKS
@@ShadowGamingPC1 Thank you very much sir🙏🙏🙏
Best value would be turning it all in and getting to the AM4 platform if you have no desire to upgrade down the road. Like on my end I will just build fresh every 3-4 years anyways. Everyone sells going for AM5 for upgradable path but you can't beat the value to performance of buying AM4 currently. I saved $250-300 going this path for the same performance by utilizing sells at the time. $900 total cost for 120+ FPS in almost every game high/ultra settings.
@@andrewroof8042 Its a great point honestly, its a smart move.
Nice combo
previous nvidia to 7600 XT 16GB owner you can do content with it I clicked off when it seemed like the only verbal option was nvidia
how about intel arc cards? do you have some reccomendations? if ever someone would buy one
yes but I recommend them for 1080p usually
@@ShadowGamingPC1my Arc A770 runs Cyberpunk at 1440p no problem....
@@westwonic I'm not saying they can't. I'm saying that in my opinion some GPUs are better in terms of value at 1440p
what do you think i should get rtx 3090 used or 4070 super as they are the same price
it really depends, if your fav games won't require more than 12gb I'd go for the 4070 super, it's newer and it provides basically the same level of performance, but, if you require more vram, and the 3090 used is reliable, go for that one!
3090 ? are you crazy? 4070 gives you frame generation !!!!
@@Voltomess that is true! Good point if he uses it
@@Voltomess but then again i'm doing mixed workloads and gaming and the vram is pulling me towards the 3090
I would take a 3090 over a 4070 super. I’m running 3080ti and wouldn’t trade for anything but the 4090. Still pumps numbers well
Where did you find the 7900 GRE Reference cards???
Building my first pc in 2 weeks Would be great if shadow could reply will a 7600x be ok and CORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6400MHz CL32 Intel XMP iCUE Compatible Computer Memory - Black and Silicon Power 1TB UD90 NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCle M.2 SSD R/W up to 5,000/4,800 MB/s (SP01KGBP44UD9005)
SP. And Corsair RM750e (2023) Fully Modular Low-Noise ATX Power Supply
And Gigabyte B650M D3HP AX Motherboard and DEEPCOOL AK400 Performance Single Tower Heatpipe CPU Cooler. Don’t want a bottle neck also how many frames would I get just want a smooth playing pc with high enough frames sorry for the way I’ve typed it new to this stuff.
You don't need 6400mhz ram, 6000mhz is cheaper and gives nearly the same performance as 6400mhz
This b650 is pretty basic, if you wanted to upgrade CPU to Ryzen 7 in future I wouldn't recommend but it's ok budget friendly
The PSU is veryyyy expensive over 100$ for PSU that's crazy
There are cheaper alternatives
CPU cooler is alright 😘
What's your GPU???
@@Aegie thanks for the help really appreciate it and 7600x
@@He_him7 that's the CPU - processor Ryzen 5 7600x
Or did you mean Radeon Rx 7600? The GPU - graphics card
@@Aegie sorry didn’t read what u said properly I actually want to go with the RX 6950 xt and Ryzen 7600X what fps would I get
@@He_him7 every game in 1440p resolution will be smooth :)
I would consider changing PSU for cheaper one because this is too expensive, search little bit and you'll find something cheaper with same specs, sorry for not giving any models etc, there's storm going on and even replying is pain :(
And the RAM for 6000mhz ;)
Please, what would be the best budget reasonable upgrade from my perfect so far 2070S?? Subscribed
budget reasonable :( what is your budget ? in my mind if u on 1440p monitor, min upgrade i would go is 100% more performance, that would be smting like rx 7800 xt . budget one is rx 6800 on newegg
@@gogaming5449 500$ max to 550$ budget, must be new card
Save up and get 4070 ti super. It will last you long time
should I buy these parts and keep them under $1000?
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (gifted)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X Refined SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($18.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550M MORTAR MAX WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($102.97 @ B&H)
Video Card: PowerColor Red Devil OC Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card ($549.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Q300L V2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (Purchased)
Power Supply: Segotep GP 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply
Case Fan: Phanteks M25-120 PWM 84.26 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack ($20.84 @ Amazon)
Custom: Cable Matters 2 Pack 4 Pin PWM 3 Computer Case Fan Splitter Cable - 12 Inches ($8.98)
Custom: GPU Support Bracket, BERLAT Graphics Card GPU Brace Support, Adjustable Height Graphics Card Holder, Video Card Sag Holder Bracket, Universal VGA Graphics Card Holder - All-Aluminum Metal Materi ($5.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $917.63
questions I would like answered:
-can I make this cheaper without losing too much performance?
-is there a better mico motherboard with good wifi and Bluetooth (for cheaper, like the MSI PRO B550M-VC WIFI Micro ATX but better?
-is there better performing 2 TB storage?
-is there better (16x2) RAM?
-is there a better graphics card I can use? (for around the same price, or cheaper)
*note I want to use this PC to play games on high settings like cyberpunk, and modded Minecraft, but also CAD (Onshape)
-are the 4 total fans (including the pre-installed case fan) enough for cooling?
-is a better power supply needed? (I would like to keep the price low)
sorry for the long list lol
any help is wanted!!
You could go $200 cheaper by buying the 6800 on Amazon right now. Depending on your monitor it will pair with that ryzen 5 5600 for 110 FPS+ in almost any game at high/ultra settings. And lower settings for competitive will top 180+ in Warzone for example.
I would recommend going to 750W power supply. Best to go higher wattage and not cut corners on the PSU.
@@andrewroof8042 thank you for the input! Really appreciate it
From the 1st few minutes of your video I think you need to rethink this. Due to the most under thought about piece of Computer system gaming or otherwise depending on use is the Monitor. You can have the best as of to date RTX4090 and not get any more than 60 fps of 1080p if all you have is a 60-75 hz 1080p monitor. Order should be monitor then GPU. Then you can worry about other bottle necks such as CPUs Mem and so on.
@@ardithconley2628 I agree and disagree, the monitor is a peripheral (super important ofc) but not a PC component
bro watched the hardware unboxed vid lmao
Merc 6950xt is available on Amazon for 500$ , 1440 monster.
Love my 4080 super, I play every game in 4k max settings. Combined with a ryzen 7 7800x3d this things a beast.
cheapest at world 6700xt/6750xt or rx6800 without dlss and the stuff who needs 12-17gb vram (6700xt at german EOL and costs now 500-1000€) :D
till 580 no nvidias :D
The 7900 gre is more expensive than 4070 super where i live so ... I'll just go with that
Im stuck trying to decide between the 4070 super, 7900 gre, 4070 ti super, and the 7900 xt...
1440p 144hz gaming is the goal, and i dont want to upgrade again for around 5 years. On the other hand, I do need a monitor upgrade as well.
all 3 GPUs will be enough for 1440p 144hz, but if you want it to last that long, then the 4070 Ti super is the one that will age the best in my opinion (unless FSR gets improved to the point where is the same as DLSS)
What are you playing game wise? I don't see any reason to have to spend more than $350 - 500 to game at 144Hz 1440p. You would be just fine with 7800 XT, 6800 XT, or 6800.
My Ryzen 5 5600 + 6800 build gets 160+ on any competitive shooter game, I get 120+ in most areas when playing Hogwarts Legacy. Honestly I rarely see the Frames drop below the 110-120 mark at high/ultra settings.
I guess if you want something that always stays 140+ in all settings one of those is great, but I just don't think the cost is worth it unless you have the money to blow. Just my thoughts but no wrong decision.
Also 6950 XT....if wanting to spend $500 check that sucker out
@@andrewroof8042 game wise things like baldur's gate 3, helldivers 2, the finals, etc. A mix of story driven rpgs and shooters
The idea is to upgrade to 1440p and achieve 144hz, high to ultra settings today, then ramp the settings down over time until I get down to 40ish fps low to medium settings, by then I'll be due for an upgrade
B/c of that I'm thinking that going a little bit overkill might be worth. I know "futureproofing" isn't really a thing but I don't expect the same level of performance for that long
@@skycaptain39 What CPU are you using? or do you plan to upgrade that also?
What's the best used graphics cards currently?
Depends on your needs and wants. If you don't already have something I would suggest just going with 6700 XT. Lots of people selling them to go for their upgrades.
What about a 4060 ti(8 gigs of vram)?
@@New_York228 don’t buy it!
Are u hispan?
Nice video bro!
thanks man!
i bought 4070 ti no regrets.
I got a prebuilt legiont5 4070 super 7 7700x for 1200.
That's why I got XFX merc rx 7900 xtx from amd redeon it's a better graphics card than nvidia
dont worry. i dont buy nvidia cards ever.
I bought my fist Radeon card (6800) earlier this year. I will never go back to Nvidia unless they come more in line with Radeon pricing. The 6800 was only $380 on sale at that time and it destroys everythin within a $100 price point. I wanted the 7800 XT but I didn't want to spend $120-140 more.
@@andrewroof8042hows the games run on dx11 on amd is there any fps problems ?
there is a thing as a bad graphics card i still use gtx 650 but it cant run anything 😭
I have a gtx 980 so don't feel bad
im on a gtx 1070 just upgraded to 1440p and luckily, it still pulls some good numbers on ultra/high settings. Usually around 70-90 fps with FSR on
Love u valentino
The ssd could be more important if you dont have enough gb to install the game in the first place 😂
2:43 ok i can tell where you are going already. So I will say it for you now. If you are a hardcore gamer and you watch your pocket, and even if you don't but you mainly looking GPU for gaming, then AMD is your best bet. If you a hard content creator and you game, you should never look at AMD, only if maybe you use DaVinci Resolve for video editing. Nvidia is KING in balancing both at a high level. All you gamers seem to think GPUs, especially Nvidia's are only made for gamers. And if raytracing is not important to you, then stick to AMD.
I could grab my 4070 ti for 600~650
Where is my 3080 ti FE
6600 xt can handle 1440p med-high settings
rx 6800 for 2024 )))) omg man
best gpu for UWQHD? okay its 1440p but 30% extra
Those things:
6800XT
7800XT
4070S
7900GRE
4070ti super
7900XT
7900XTX
4080S
I have 4070 can’t complain, and also I don’t get why people shit on this card.
its obvious brother, its the pricing lol why we are like dodging bullets here? almost nvidia is overpriced as fck of course people will complain and sht on that card but hey if u have the money then its all goods in the hood lol
tbh i like 4070 i just dont like the pricing its like they are scamming me and making joke to my face lol
@@ajjames1960 yeap pricing is way off
at the launch should have waited...
@@rxxdlb i like the 4070 for its performance and power consumption its less than 200w tbh and the pricing is still kinda overpriced since in my place it cost 685 usd now which is a big what the fck
did u get yours around 685 too? idk but i feel like 12gb shoud be around less than 500 or probably 450 and 520 usd+ should be 16gb vram other if not its feels like a scam since its so hard to play 1440p with less than 12gb i mean 10gb is kinda fair but 8gb is like at the edge resulting to bad game experience
@@ajjames1960 yeap around 685ish, it was Gigabyte, only if i had more patience could have grabbed the TI Super ...
was so exited :))
nice
thanks bro
@@ShadowGamingPC1 Your videos really do help when considering pc parts! Its the least I can do!
loling at you on 4k ..
Can’t decide between the 7900gre and 4070 super. Got a 7700x and the pc will be all white. The price difference isn’t much so that doesn’t really matter the nvidia is like $50 more. Just can’t decide. My son will be playing Fortnite on it and I’ll play some Minecraft maybe some GTA. Which one would you recommend? I’m getting a steel legend motherboard and there’s a matching 7900 gre and amd has more vram but I like the efficiency of the 4070s.. bout to flip a coin lol.
get 4070 super
@@Denis_.97 I was leaning more towards the 7900 gre but ya I don’t know still. Hoping they both go on sale for Amazon prime day. We’ll see if the gre drops $100 under the 4070s I’ll get the gre.. have to get a white gpu and they’re usually a little more expensive.
@@joshuacollins789 well 4070 super is a better choice long-term due to dlss tecnology and ray tracing is significally better then amd's but the 7900 gre is better for 1080p gaming. So 1440 p gaming you should get rtx 4070 super 1080p gaming get 7900gre
@@joshuacollins789 flip a coin
@@Denis_.97 7900GRE for 1080p 💀
What's your Dru** dealer?
ryzen 5 5600x with Radeon rtx 6650 xt it's a good combination?
Yes it is still a good combo