THE PENUEL SHOW WITH PENSON MLOTSHWA 00:00 - INTRO 04:10 - Dating scene in 2024 12:40 - Male struggles, societal conditioning 20:30 - Telling ordinary stories 22:00 - Fatherlessness, absent father's 30:00 - Dating & marriage 40:20 - What would you do differently 43:00 - Body count 51:20 - Marriage 1:00:55 - Our mothers, loyalty & infidelity 1:04:35 - Jada Smith , Red table 1:07:30 - Relationship age gaps, mental health 1:18:50 - Is Jada an alpha 1:20:50 - Minnie Dlamini 1:29:35 - Fatherhood 1:37:34 - Polygamy, Polyandry 1:42:45 - Honesty 1:46:55 - Closing comments 1:52:55 - ENDS
I hope to one day get my son back... Zulu Mlotshwa. I tried everything I could within the law to gain access to him & failed. All I hope for now, is for him to grow up & come to me... knowing that he may hate me, based on what he's been mis-taught about me. We stay fighting. The world hates good men.
How did you lose him? If you were there nothing anyone tells him would show him otherwise because you would be there to show him for real. That's why I ask how did you lose him? Have you become a good man now? If you have always been then how did you lose him?
@@Drawingboredi I'd prefer to not answer this currently. I've made lots of videos about my journey in the past. And am not keen to unpack it right now. I hope that's okay 🙏🏽
On the topic of ordinary stories and relationships… including that of ur son. I’d love for u to go watch a movie called Fences by Denzel Washington - I believe it’s a beautiful story about manhood and fatherhood that isn’t told very often. Idk about u but that movie brought me to tears
This relationship is at another level- the authenticity!!! Give us at least one talk every week. You have no idea how much we learn from you. You are both talented. Thank you Penson for re- empathizing on how important it is to keep your family issues under wraps. It’s not for public consumption. Thank you from 🇳🇦🇳🇦🇳🇦
With looks and physique Penson looks older but when they both open their mouths you realise Penuel is older cause he’s more eloquent and smarter than Penson otherwise great intellectual stimulating conversation gents keep it up!
Penson recently said ive come to realise that my brother Penuel is a striker and i Penson am a defender and my role is to defend and pass him the ball so he can score for US(family) damn bro...that takes another level of respect and and and....
The problem with Penuel is that he is not interviewing Penson but debating him. We understand he is your brother but have some respect and keep it professional
Aaaahh. Penson getting emotional talking about how people will never know Penuel and the pain of him not being able to access his son. That was a deep moment for him.
As I was listening to this dating and multiple partners segment, Penuel was struggling to listen, defensive because the points were hitting home. But he was not attacking him but clarifying his belief.
Hello Pen, First of all thanks for bringing up the conversations that matter,you doing good in all ways in my opinion, we could also improve on giving our guests room to construct their conversation, their statement, the point they are trying to make before an interruption, its not necessarily happening often, but jusy enough to kinda f up the conversations in some way, i noticed it too on Vusi, a number of times he would say "sorry" , professional for "let me finish", i think there could be an improvement there ...Thank you again
I loved the conversation OMG Nina nobabili amadoda alamanayo axoxe kanje lovely❤….you kid’s especially sons must be proud to have ubabomkhulu nobabomncane ofana nani….please bring him back 🌸🙏😍
This would be very educational; informative and ground-shifting if there was a panel to give their views. Get an older & younger male and an older & younger female; people we already know and respect to be on the panel to have the conversation.
An incredible conversation. Please invite Hakeem Anderson Lesolang, one of the dopest black therapists in this country and incredibly insightful. We need more of these, please 🙏🏽
Penuel we understand Pesnon is your young brother, but please next time respect him more, allow him to speak like you allow other reputable speakers. Thanks man
That's how most siblings are though. It's not scripted. It shouldn't be. Unless you and your siblings have a different style of banter and deep reflections, I think you are asking for too much. Sorry
I as a woman my observation about being a in a society you are expected to behave in a certain ways by public eyes,we are not allowed to express ourselves as we choose too
But then why should you care? why should society dictate how you should be? no one is holding you by the neck end of the day.. i personally advice you to be yourself and avail yourself to whomever that will appreciate you for who you are. the world is already full of puppets trying to fit into society that's toxic already.
Penuel you have so many interruptions where you alter the focus with immature humor that a teenager. Like it’s ok to add humor but it’s an adult conversation and that discipline to maintain that level of professionalism even with a younger brother. Keep putting up content for those of us in USA
Penuel, its already established at this point that you're a smart and knowledgeable guy but maybe try to just listen when your guest is speaking instead of constantly interrupting. Watching from that point when Penson was listing/describing the dynamics in popular sitcoms so that he can build on his point, you kept interrupting as if to show that you know as much or more about what he's saying. Relax a little next but overall, great podcast.
I love Podcast & Chill but today when their episode was premiering I actually stopped watching after 5 minutes and came here and I was hooked, you guys conversate about real issues that affects us Men and Women, big up!!
Amazing conversation... Deep, enlightening, this conversation actually challenges my mind at another level seeing you guys unpacking these necessary topics which are society norms.
Thank you obhuti Baka Mlotshwa🙏🙏🙏...I am so glad I tuned in.I love how the two of always try to come up with solutions and a a Single Boy Mom I m always trying to find positive male role models for my son🙏🙏🙏keep having honest difficult Conversations that we not ready to have.
We've become a selfish society. The other thing is over exposure. We know too much about too many people, unfortunately that means being exposed to things which make us feel like certain things are no longer worth it. As a result people have decided on short-term enjoyment.😮
Penuel asked questions that represent some of the ideas that the people who may disagree with Penson. It does not necessarily mean he disturbed/disagreed with Penson just because he is his young brother!!!
That trauma introduction is true because, when i push through a challenge or bad circumstance, it takes changing my perspective, and improving my conversation skills with myself and others to become the person who will fully overcome my adversity.
As for “like a dog with that lil pink thing out” 🤣🤣 Jeewzzz! This is infinitely one of my favourite subjects. Let’s keep having these conversations please - they are necessary and they can help us fix a lot ❤🖤 Thank you gents. Keep up the good work 😉
There's so much that is expected from us based on the ideology of others about our sexual lifestyle, behaviour, dating, marriage choice, expression age,tbased on the societal conditions of others often judged if you wanna express yourself according to how i wabe my self that i can be independent,strong,who to date,when to sexually preferences according to me, and when to committee
😂😂😂 yabona nina bafana bami niyangiqeda ( "nengane yakho embi,,😅 hheyi ungibukani wena,,,😢😮 I want my dad 😅😅 that part killz me") shout out and big up Jimbos'es
Cela nenze iplan for i Bridge for iyNgane zase Zama High, the school is performing but the kids might not get to school when there's heavily rains... Part of giving back to the less fortunate 🙏🏾
30:02 Peson is 💯..... fathers and mother... males and females are biological different and therefore naturally have different role in society and within the household. Where i do disagree or might add is that it's up to that union to define their roles that works for them and not to fit in society
Love the interview ayi but ke was defeated when my brother says he dowsnt understand marriage. Awoa. Marriage is the foundation of building healthy families, which feeds into creating a healthier society. Have a life partner if you have no intention of having kids.
Yho, don’t fight me. I’m just adding my input into this conversation. You don’t have to agree with it. A pure woman should be with a pure man. Explain why a woman should keep herself pure only to settle down with a man that’s been around several times. People should date each other based on their level of purity.
Simple and klar!this one isn't even offering to settle. He doesn't want marriage so who must stay pure to get picked by him 😂😂 for what, just to be made an additional baby mama ? The nerve 😤
These two things came to mind listening to you gents discuss The Smiths🤣: - Psychologist on The Real Talk Show on SABC 3 said "in general relationships have a duration of 20-25 years." Now let's think about that statement. The behaviour of partners are bound to get better or worse. - Will and Jayda are self-employed so "do what you gotta do for income". Business mindset: If the world loves a subject you provide then releasing a book wouldn't be a bad decision.
I support Pensyls view that dating multiple people shift the heart from its original place which is the centre of the chest. The mere fact that so much being invested in each other to everytime find yourself on a kickstart is senseless. Investments meaning emotional, financial etc. Your identity is not locked up in someone who would hopefully come by someday. Multiple relationships does not increase in value😂😂
I agree that things need to be kept within the family... however, I think grace needs to be extended for when someone was wronged, like cheated on. Being cheated on is a traumatic experience. In a situation like that, the person is not sane. The person would quite literally act in a way they would have never acted had that not happened. Enhle acted in a way she's never acted before, and I knew she would recollect herself. She had devoted her whole life to him, and at that point, the pain, grief, and loss was immense. At times, that public outcry is a trauma response... it's what you think you need to do to survive that ordeal. At that point, you are literally trying to survive the trauma, and saving face is the last thing on your mind. So we can't expect sanity from someone who is literally going crazy... eventually, they will gather themselves, but at that point they are trying to survive.
Penuel please can you allow your brother to complete his thoughts without interrupting him. Would have liked for this to be a conversation not you debating and challenging most of what your brother was saying. Great dialogue nevertheless.
Bathong Penuel can you just learn to back down and let your guest speaker finish their point...gosh i almost clicked off because its so annoying trying to listen to him while you're constantly interjecting and derailing his point which has so much wisdom. Or you are scared he might outshine you with wisdom....you might be factually intelligent but he is definitely wiser....so listen to him more you might learn a lot.
THE PENUEL SHOW WITH PENSON MLOTSHWA
00:00 - INTRO
04:10 - Dating scene in 2024
12:40 - Male struggles, societal conditioning
20:30 - Telling ordinary stories
22:00 - Fatherlessness, absent father's
30:00 - Dating & marriage
40:20 - What would you do differently
43:00 - Body count
51:20 - Marriage
1:00:55 - Our mothers, loyalty & infidelity
1:04:35 - Jada Smith , Red table
1:07:30 - Relationship age gaps, mental health
1:18:50 - Is Jada an alpha
1:20:50 - Minnie Dlamini
1:29:35 - Fatherhood
1:37:34 - Polygamy, Polyandry
1:42:45 - Honesty
1:46:55 - Closing comments
1:52:55 - ENDS
IMAGINE HAVING A BROTHER YOU CAN CONVERSE WITH, ON THIS LEVEL..
We don't have...😅
I have a sibling I can converse kanje
i have one
@MyMystery9 you are blessed, bro. 🙌
Dope
I dont care what people say about you guys, you are our black success story. Siyabonga - kukhanye njalo
I hope to one day get my son back... Zulu Mlotshwa.
I tried everything I could within the law to gain access to him & failed.
All I hope for now, is for him to grow up & come to me... knowing that he may hate me, based on what he's been mis-taught about me.
We stay fighting. The world hates good men.
How did you lose him? If you were there nothing anyone tells him would show him otherwise because you would be there to show him for real. That's why I ask how did you lose him? Have you become a good man now? If you have always been then how did you lose him?
It's so sad I wonder what led to the fights between you and her Mom maybe we will learn from that development.
@@Drawingboredi I'd prefer to not answer this currently. I've made lots of videos about my journey in the past. And am not keen to unpack it right now.
I hope that's okay 🙏🏽
Kuzolunga my brother we feel your pain
On the topic of ordinary stories and relationships… including that of ur son. I’d love for u to go watch a movie called Fences by Denzel Washington - I believe it’s a beautiful story about manhood and fatherhood that isn’t told very often. Idk about u but that movie brought me to tears
The blueprint for healthy relationships babu Penson is in the holy bible
wisdom in plain sight
Amen 🙏
Those "What", "Huh" moments are priceless. The real in the conversations you have is so appreciated.
Let your brother SPEAK!!! Yoh…😢 liked his perspectives.
HE LOOKS DOWN ON HIM FOR SOME REASON, HE DOESNT SEE HIM AS AN EQUAL
This relationship is at another level- the authenticity!!! Give us at least one talk every week. You have no idea how much we learn from you. You are both talented. Thank you Penson for re- empathizing on how important it is to keep your family issues under wraps. It’s not for public consumption. Thank you from 🇳🇦🇳🇦🇳🇦
With looks and physique Penson looks older but when they both open their mouths you realise Penuel is older cause he’s more eloquent and smarter than Penson otherwise great intellectual stimulating conversation gents keep it up!
I kind of always hate how God pen makes penson sound so average
Penson recently said ive come to realise that my brother Penuel is a striker and i Penson am a defender and my role is to defend and pass him the ball so he can score for US(family) damn bro...that takes another level of respect and and and....
27:36 I hear Penson. Mom and dad are both needed for a child, it helps with balance.
The problem with Penuel is that he is not interviewing Penson but debating him. We understand he is your brother but have some respect and keep it professional
Penson....a voice of reason....reality not fake social media.
Lol that brother dynamic is full of chemistry, I'm here for it.
I hope this isn't the last we see of this in the african space.
Aaaahh. Penson getting emotional talking about how people will never know Penuel and the pain of him not being able to access his son. That was a deep moment for him.
Seconds in. Imani wasebaba kangaka uPenson ✅ looking after your health really pays off ❤❤❤❤❤
He is such a good looking man
I love how they get along as brothers ❤❤ great show
I always enjoy listening to Penuel & Penson unpack. Their differing opinions are very eye-opening.
As I was listening to this dating and multiple partners segment, Penuel was struggling to listen, defensive because the points were hitting home. But he was not attacking him but clarifying his belief.
Hello Pen, First of all thanks for bringing up the conversations that matter,you doing good in all ways in my opinion, we could also improve on giving our guests room to construct their conversation, their statement, the point they are trying to make before an interruption, its not necessarily happening often, but jusy enough to kinda f up the conversations in some way, i noticed it too on Vusi, a number of times he would say "sorry" , professional for "let me finish", i think there could be an improvement there ...Thank you again
Something about these two, makes envy the brother relationship that i wish i had with my own brother🙇🏾
Yoh thank you for introducing us to pension mlotshwa- he’s candy for the eye
I loved the conversation OMG Nina nobabili amadoda alamanayo axoxe kanje lovely❤….you kid’s especially sons must be proud to have ubabomkhulu nobabomncane ofana nani….please bring him back 🌸🙏😍
Thank you for the real conversation… love person
This would be very educational; informative and ground-shifting if there was a panel to give their views.
Get an older & younger male and an older & younger female; people we already know and respect to be on the panel to have the conversation.
That loud Sip @45:26 was legit a younger brother trying the most to irritate the older brother...... They do this to me all the time😂😂😂
"ahhhh"😂😂
An incredible conversation. Please invite Hakeem Anderson Lesolang, one of the dopest black therapists in this country and incredibly insightful. We need more of these, please 🙏🏽
Penson has foresight, he's bringing great points and sounds very mature about his views.
I just discovered your brother, damn he good. But you handled him as a young brother and that’s what made it interesting for me.
Penuel we understand Pesnon is your young brother, but please next time respect him more, allow him to speak like you allow other reputable speakers. Thanks man
Eish , he cuts his sentences with questions before he finishes his points
That's how most siblings are though. It's not scripted. It shouldn't be. Unless you and your siblings have a different style of banter and deep reflections, I think you are asking for too much. Sorry
Penson is great. He understands how this relationship works. They get each other. Where are your siblings?
Personally i think the convo was perfect 🥰
@toolzntoolz9857 Relax bro,they get each other
I as a woman my observation about being a in a society you are expected to behave in a certain ways by public eyes,we are not allowed to express ourselves as we choose too
But then why should you care? why should society dictate how you should be? no one is holding you by the neck end of the day.. i personally advice you to be yourself and avail yourself to whomever that will appreciate you for who you are. the world is already full of puppets trying to fit into society that's toxic already.
@@Philly_btc hi ,I don't hold my self I to experience everything
@@NomsaBaloyi-e5h fair enough, may this nasty society not affect you. it has done its damage already.
Penuel you have so many interruptions where you alter the focus with immature humor that a teenager. Like it’s ok to add humor but it’s an adult conversation and that discipline to maintain that level of professionalism even with a younger brother. Keep putting up content for those of us in USA
Your relationship is soooo good, i loved watching these two intelligent brains go at it and watching the unmatched chemistry
My mom and dad never highlighted the challenges or marriage. that knowledge usually came from my personal mistakes and sources outside our home.
Penuel, its already established at this point that you're a smart and knowledgeable guy but maybe try to just listen when your guest is speaking instead of constantly interrupting. Watching from that point when Penson was listing/describing the dynamics in popular sitcoms so that he can build on his point, you kept interrupting as if to show that you know as much or more about what he's saying. Relax a little next but overall, great podcast.
I love Podcast & Chill but today when their episode was premiering I actually stopped watching after 5 minutes and came here and I was hooked, you guys conversate about real issues that affects us Men and Women, big up!!
Say it again!!
Amazing conversation... Deep, enlightening, this conversation actually challenges my mind at another level seeing you guys unpacking these necessary topics which are society norms.
Thank you obhuti Baka Mlotshwa🙏🙏🙏...I am so glad I tuned in.I love how the two of always try to come up with solutions and a a Single Boy Mom I m always trying to find positive male role models for my son🙏🙏🙏keep having honest difficult Conversations that we not ready to have.
We've become a selfish society. The other thing is over exposure. We know too much about too many people, unfortunately that means being exposed to things which make us feel like certain things are no longer worth it. As a result people have decided on short-term enjoyment.😮
Bro i love this relationship.
It's refreshing when it's only the two of you. Yoh the other show with 2 other people 😂😂😂 I never finish it.
Love love love the Mlotshwa bros together impromptu🤩 Lungelo is such an amazing big bro to Pen💞
Penuel asked questions that represent some of the ideas that the people who may disagree with Penson. It does not necessarily mean he disturbed/disagreed with Penson just because he is his young brother!!!
now this- slaps
That trauma introduction is true because, when i push through a challenge or bad circumstance, it takes changing my perspective, and improving my conversation skills with myself and others to become the person who will fully overcome my adversity.
Families can host conferences to educate the younger generations about life and overcoming challenged in addition to the family reunions.
As for “like a dog with that lil pink thing out” 🤣🤣 Jeewzzz!
This is infinitely one of my favourite subjects. Let’s keep having these conversations please - they are necessary and they can help us fix a lot ❤🖤
Thank you gents. Keep up the good work 😉
Penson is hot that time thanks for the chat.
Way too Hot 🔥🔥❤
Ndilinde ngomonde.
I always learn something from of your interviews.
Looking forward to this one!
Penson raised some really good points , statistics and well thought out , objective opinions and arguments. 🇿🇦
The Tate brothers in the making......!!!
Dankie boys 🙏
i enjoy watching you guys. i really need more of these conversations. you remind of me and my brother.
I love Penson..wat a beautiful sense of humour ❤
I enjoy your conversations guys, I understand Penson more futhi if ekhuluma with his brother, he asks him questions that channel him to answer kahle
There's so much that is expected from us based on the ideology of others about our sexual lifestyle, behaviour, dating, marriage choice, expression age,tbased on the societal conditions of others often judged if you wanna express yourself according to how i wabe my self that i can be independent,strong,who to date,when to sexually preferences according to me, and when to committee
Patiently waiting 👑🎈
1:23:10 Ezinye izinto, they not for the world - facts
Penson Loud sipping his tea at 45:26🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Pen& pen conversions always slaps 🔥✌🏾 no hand shake here 😂😂😂thanks
I am enjoying this podcast today
What the conversation but Buti Penson has opinions based on social media point of view
I Like This Penwell . Keep pushing Penson to the ropes . Big up guys 😂
brilliant episode
Both Penuel and Penson speak very intelligently.
dope convo... how i wish le nkulumo ibingathola iningi labantu.... coz i've leaned a lot... ubafo got profound and accurate points.... #Akabuye
😂😂😂 yabona nina bafana bami niyangiqeda ( "nengane yakho embi,,😅 hheyi ungibukani wena,,,😢😮 I want my dad 😅😅 that part killz me") shout out and big up Jimbos'es
Cela nenze iplan for i Bridge for iyNgane zase Zama High, the school is performing but the kids might not get to school when there's heavily rains... Part of giving back to the less fortunate 🙏🏾
Love your show !
You guys make a great show 😂
Beautiful 🎉❤
30:02 Peson is 💯..... fathers and mother... males and females are biological different and therefore naturally have different role in society and within the household. Where i do disagree or might add is that it's up to that union to define their roles that works for them and not to fit in society
I always tune I for the brothers chat..and i got to mention yall are funny😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Love the interview ayi but ke was defeated when my brother says he dowsnt understand marriage. Awoa. Marriage is the foundation of building healthy families, which feeds into creating a healthier society. Have a life partner if you have no intention of having kids.
Im enjoying this episode, im laughing throughout the show.😅
Penson is fkn funny! "Oh you think I dig dig. I DiDig" 🤣 clown! Thanks guys.
This brother should be an African relationship consultant
Yho, don’t fight me. I’m just adding my input into this conversation. You don’t have to agree with it. A pure woman should be with a pure man. Explain why a woman should keep herself pure only to settle down with a man that’s been around several times. People should date each other based on their level of purity.
Simple and klar!this one isn't even offering to settle. He doesn't want marriage so who must stay pure to get picked by him 😂😂 for what, just to be made an additional baby mama ? The nerve 😤
100%
That last sentence was so funny! 😂😂😂
Should yes however, Virgins nowadays desire experienced men. Most of em don't want us as virgins
Penson ❤❤charming 😊
Penson is a naughty Lil Brother🤣🤣🤣.
Amazing episode gents👊🏾.
Good conversation.
Penson's sense of humor is out of this world 😂
Where's the "gay handshake" Bros...👋🏽👋😂
I know this is gonna be a dope conversation
Clearly, the younger one has more depth
Next episode with your brother and let him speak we want to hear him hauw
Great conversation. Stop talking over him though.
I agree with My Wife and Kids and Blackish comparison but you also don't mention Everybody Hates Chris.
And please have guest speak louder it's the 3rd time I saw certain guest speaks very slow or not sure if it is the mic on the guest side
These two things came to mind listening to you gents discuss The Smiths🤣:
- Psychologist on The Real Talk Show on SABC 3 said "in general relationships have a duration of 20-25 years." Now let's think about that statement. The behaviour of partners are bound to get better or worse.
- Will and Jayda are self-employed so "do what you gotta do for income".
Business mindset: If the world loves a subject you provide then releasing a book wouldn't be a bad decision.
I support Pensyls view that dating multiple people shift the heart from its original place which is the centre of the chest. The mere fact that so much being invested in each other to everytime find yourself on a kickstart is senseless. Investments meaning emotional, financial etc. Your identity is not locked up in someone who would hopefully come by someday. Multiple relationships does not increase in value😂😂
You guys are hilarious at the beginning !!
I agree that things need to be kept within the family... however, I think grace needs to be extended for when someone was wronged, like cheated on. Being cheated on is a traumatic experience. In a situation like that, the person is not sane. The person would quite literally act in a way they would have never acted had that not happened. Enhle acted in a way she's never acted before, and I knew she would recollect herself. She had devoted her whole life to him, and at that point, the pain, grief, and loss was immense. At times, that public outcry is a trauma response... it's what you think you need to do to survive that ordeal.
At that point, you are literally trying to survive the trauma, and saving face is the last thing on your mind. So we can't expect sanity from someone who is literally going crazy... eventually, they will gather themselves, but at that point they are trying to survive.
Penuel please can you allow your brother to complete his thoughts without interrupting him. Would have liked for this to be a conversation not you debating and challenging most of what your brother was saying. Great dialogue nevertheless.
The day I get to sit with Penuel🤐 These conversations make me feel like an anomoly and I know Im not.
What does anomoly mean?
@@SomkhandaTutoringServicesnot the norm/ standard.
🌟 Man! Penson really follows Andrew Tate, and I'm not even coming from a "he's faking him" perspective
If there's a need for you to know my body count, there's also going to be a need for me to see your 3 months banks statement Sir. Sprinkle Sprinkle!!
Number 1 bomkhaya
Let’s sign up for open cards. From the beginning not along the way. Secrecy has no upsides
❤😂Penson Penuel combo
Bathong Penuel can you just learn to back down and let your guest speaker finish their point...gosh i almost clicked off because its so annoying trying to listen to him while you're constantly interjecting and derailing his point which has so much wisdom. Or you are scared he might outshine you with wisdom....you might be factually intelligent but he is definitely wiser....so listen to him more you might learn a lot.
😂😂ishu!
“Sbongile from McDonald’s. Yim no Sbongile” I died😅