+seidl01 The pros don't hit this hard in a match. It's much easier to tee off on the ball standing in the same place, when you don't care about the ball going out, and when you're hitting "rally" balls.
what a privilege for the crowd if they watched that for free. it's just amazing when you see this court side view. unbelievable just how good they both are.
OK. A couple deep secrets for the one handers and wawrinka followers. 1. Two handers have more stable positions, learn to take time away, as they try to take time away from you. 2. Learn to slice really well. One handers always have a better slice naturally. 3. Be fit and move to the forehand. 4. Practice your fh moving forward for the end point. A huge fh makes your bh strategic. We all know that cross court 1h bh is nice but it doesn't win it. A huge fh after does. 5. bh = strategic/defensive, fh = weapon. If you get to wawrinka's level switch it. That's all kids.
dont have to be on wawrinka's level to attack with a backhand. it just has to be as good or better than your forehand, and good enough to beat your opponent
+cbr9927 really? It seems pretty clean / not quirky to me - particularly if you compare it to people who actually do have a weird style, such as Dolgopolov or Berasategui. Sure, there are little details of Stan's prep/timing that are slightly unusual but I'd say most of his game is quite textbook if anything. (with very good execution particularly on the one handed backhand)
@@msods both active players, although Murray just got back from major surgeries. But, I said that because Murray clearly had the better career -- more slam finals, semi-finals, masters, year-end winner, was number one in the world. Don't get me wrong, I love Stan's style, but you can't argue his career is as impressive as Murray's (even if you love his one-handed backhand haha)
I think she was saying Stan makes a lot of mistakes & Murray is faster than Wawrinka in terms of movement I think she meant this as that time Wawrinka had only won 1 Aus open & Murray was considered in the big 4, the warm up rally Murray was hitting heavier balls with more quality compared to Stan but it was nullified when stan started hitting heavier after the warm up rallys. What I conclude is that don't take the woman srsly (No offense to the ma'am)
+Sebastien Seguin gasquet doesn t have the best one....which was showed in they re wimbledon clash ...they were hitting backhand to backhand and stan easily hit a winner of richard s drive backhand ...gasquet is more variate but his backhand is nowhere near wawrinka s in terms of raw power(gasquet hits also very hard but also very rare)and cosnistently hitting it hard and dominating the game(djokovic roland garos 2015 compared to gasquet s pathetic performance)
+Le Master Trollious Hewitt is not shit that's ignorant and disrespectful he had a lot of injuries it's amazing how all these new tennis fans disrespect past champions.
If you watch the frame just before the bounce you'll see the shadow of the ball is already out past the baseline, and it hasn't even bounced yet. The frame of the ball/ground contact is missing which makes it look like it bounced in, happens all the time as well.
I don't hate anyone, @@randyyu2772, stop talking nonsense. I just find Murray to be boring and uninmpressive to watch and he has lost more finals than any top 5 player. Nough said.
@@tobiasgoldman Murray has been the more consistent player over the years, he reached about twice the amount of grand slam semis and finals that Stan reached. Stan has the bigger shots but Andy has the consistency. Consistency gets you further than big shots.
@@MartinJohnZ Well I can concede that. It's just that at the highest level of their game I would rate Stan higher and he creates more and is more entertaining to watch.
This is the difference between real professional players who have won many slams and titles and the ''really good guys'' you see down at your local courts lol, for the most part Stan and Murray aren't even going 100% here and they look incredibly good
+bob jones the rotation of his shoulders allows him to get more power he has a big drawback and opens his body up all the way and that's on top of the fact that the ball hits on the center of the racket and the strength he possess really helps create that rocket like shot
+bob jones its about balance and strength but strength in the legs and core. It's also about technique and leverage and putting all those elements together to create racquet head speed. I'm sure you know what I mean but it's a common myth that it's "not about strength". The pros spend tons of time working on explosive strength exercises.
Beautiful. Poetry in motion. All you wimpy guys playing with two hands like a little girl. . . . THIS is how a real MAN with talent hits a backhand. (Wawrinka ;)
Yes Wawrinka's 1 hand backhand is phenomenal, but two hand backhands can be equally as effective. Using a 1 hand backhand doesn't make you a "real man" aesthetically it looks better of course but quality is always more important, and both can create great quality shots. (If this was a joke forget what I just said)
Bob Dobalina I play with a one handed backhand, it doesn't make you any manlier. The biggest mistake you can make is judging others' games based on appearances and whether they play a certain way. I am a Wawrinka fan, but I also have respect for Nadal, Murray, Djokovic and everyone else hat has two handed backhands.
futnostalgia it's not a warmup - it's a practice session; these are world class athletes - very high performers and extremely competitive - just hitting easy drills gets boring very quickly - they need to hit out - go all out - it's in their nature.
One could argue that it's a joke. .. But then again the prize money when these WTA players make on a single slam alone is probably more than most people in the world make thier whole lives.
This is one of the better practice videos that shows the definition of poor control on a higher pro level. The reasons can be stated for good comparison but murray has a lot of issues to work through, carrying a bad back looking like an old man.
7:38 shows that when he wants to, he has some firepower in this forehand but 95% of the time he will hit it round and "secure"... his backhand on the other hand is quite flat and relaxed
One year on and this is still the best practice video on youtube
MrKingpenguin123 by far!! Stan is very impressive!
Three years on and i say it's still true! :)
debatable but sure
5 years on & still the best practice one
Seven years have pssed and the content still has no rival
All TV broadcasts should use this camera angle.
This camera angle makes tennis better to watch
It's unbelieveable how good they are. I guess watching them on court level you realize just with how much pace these pro's actually hit.
+seidl01
Yes, taking a full swing at the ball and keeping it in. only .00001 of tennis players at the parks can do it.
+seidl01 The pros don't hit this hard in a match. It's much easier to tee off on the ball standing in the same place, when you don't care about the ball going out, and when you're hitting "rally" balls.
what a privilege for the crowd if they watched that for free. it's just amazing when you see this court side view. unbelievable just how good they both are.
ocelot salarian Basically watching a grand slam semi-final!
but did they?
wawrinka's backhand can cure cancer......fucking amazing
jajajajaja!
Pro tennis players are amazing! Just watching the way they move and the pace they hit is awesome!
OK. A couple deep secrets for the one handers and wawrinka followers.
1. Two handers have more stable positions, learn to take time away, as they try to
take time away from you.
2. Learn to slice really well. One handers always have a better slice naturally.
3. Be fit and move to the forehand.
4. Practice your fh moving forward for the end point. A huge fh makes your
bh strategic. We all know that cross court 1h bh is nice but it doesn't win it.
A huge fh after does.
5. bh = strategic/defensive, fh = weapon. If you get to wawrinka's level switch it.
That's all kids.
geotro11 wtf? lol
reported for not adding anything good
numchiks10 ROFL I'm sorry? I don't see why one handed backhand can only be defensive
dont have to be on wawrinka's level to attack with a backhand. it just has to be as good or better than your forehand, and good enough to beat your opponent
This has to be the best training session ever.
Murray's running forehand lob at 8:00 goes unnoticed, but is the best shot of the session
Stan called it OUT ahah
It was out
it doesn't, people clap
2 of the best backhands in the business
Stans backhand is mesmerizing. I hit a one hander so watching him is seeing the pinnacle
These two were on fire on this session. Amazing strokes.
one of the best videos out there. just great
Seeing Andy's head flash across the screen around the 6 minute mark really is a nice visual of his insane foot speed
haha great catch!!
Thought this was going to be another boring back and forward practice session......turns out it was almost like a competitive match. Enjoyed!!!
Never realized how much power Andy has on both wings. Stan is scary solid.
That forehand at 7:20 gosh!! Stan crushed it can you hit any better than that??
Murray returns at 7:35
agreed
It's the horizontal smash. I love it
3:00 one of the most satisfying backhands to finish a rally
Stan kills a forehand at 7:21. Absolutely kills it.
so effortlessly too
he abuses
The ease with which Wawrinka returns those cannon balls and gives off cannon balls of his own....
Stan has one of the most unique styles in tennis. Watch him now or its gone.
+cbr9927 really? It seems pretty clean / not quirky to me - particularly if you compare it to people who actually do have a weird style, such as Dolgopolov or Berasategui.
Sure, there are little details of Stan's prep/timing that are slightly unusual but I'd say most of his game is quite textbook if anything. (with very good execution particularly on the one handed backhand)
i know they don't hit as hard in tournaments but damn it's jaw dropping.
no no Wawrinka hits as hard in tournaments, perhaps even harder
of course they do but it's the camera angle
i couldn't resist the rallies from 0:00 to 1:20 neither. Wawrinka and Murray are two monsters
omfg
more please
Such a beautiful forehand from Wawrinka
Excellent workout practice between these two pros...A+++
How do those balls survives. they bomb it every shots. amazing.
these guys practice so hard. when i practice, i dont even run for balls and let it bounce twice.
sagatbalrog it's their job. All they live for. They practice 4-5 hours every day
You practice like you play, that's why they do it.
Stan Wawrinka has the best backhand of the world !!!!
absolutely insane level
now that's why he is the champ... his practice is very serious. Champ life
2:09 that backhand noise...Wawrinka loud style
LOL
how do they get so much racket head speed?!?!?! wow!
ok. i quit
this is elegance with force. such beautiful form. my form is ugly af. it's like chicken trying to fly. :(
agreed
The drill at 4:00 is so difficult! One player hits every ball crosscourt and the other one down the line :O
I know right I have to do that in practice it sucks lol
damn. Don't think Stan can run like this anymore 😂
It's crazy that these guys have the same amount of slams...
murray is more impressive
why?
@@msods cuz murray was actually world number 1
@@justinsaehoon i was asking John, I think they are (were?) both amazing players
@@msods both active players, although Murray just got back from major surgeries. But, I said that because Murray clearly had the better career -- more slam finals, semi-finals, masters, year-end winner, was number one in the world. Don't get me wrong, I love Stan's style, but you can't argue his career is as impressive as Murray's (even if you love his one-handed backhand haha)
It's great practice. One can learn a lot from even watching tennis players play!
8:28 Stan and deliver
I started with single backhands. But my setup is always too slow. Wawrinka set up is so lightning quick.
It's because he prepares so early compared to alot of other players
It's because he prepares so early compared to alot of other players
It's because he prepares so early compared to alot of other players
+SILK334 could you repeat that please?
+Le Master Trollious sorry didn't try to do that on purpose
2:20 what was the lady saying? who definitely makes a lot more mistakes than who? and what was so much faster than Wawrinka?
Dont encourage her!
@@wraith8323 I'm genuinely asking, I couldn't make out what she was mumbling
I think she was saying Stan makes a lot of mistakes & Murray is faster than Wawrinka in terms of movement
I think she meant this as that time Wawrinka had only won 1 Aus open & Murray was considered in the big 4, the warm up rally Murray was hitting heavier balls with more quality compared to Stan but it was nullified when stan started hitting heavier after the warm up rallys.
What I conclude is that don't take the woman srsly (No offense to the ma'am)
will someone please do something about wawrinka's return already??
two take-aways
1. wawrinka backhand is best in the business.
2. murray's forehand is quite flat.
Murray's stupid slice forehand is quite a spin.
Roger Lee Wawrinka has a dominant backhand, but Gasquet has the best one in Tennis!
+Sebastien Seguin gasquet doesn t have the best one....which was showed in they re wimbledon clash ...they were hitting backhand to backhand and stan easily hit a winner of richard s drive backhand ...gasquet is more variate but his backhand is nowhere near wawrinka s in terms of raw power(gasquet hits also very hard but also very rare)and cosnistently hitting it hard and dominating the game(djokovic roland garos 2015 compared to gasquet s pathetic performance)
+Radu Vlad I have to agree with you. I think even the pros have to agree that Stan has the best one hander.
David Fong yeah but he seems to lose to federer most of time.
7:21 💣
agreed
Australia 2014 Stan
Roland Garros 2015 Stan
Wimbledon 2013 Andy
US Open 2012 Andy
Career Grand Slammer !!
+culomb oo Hewitt is shit
Murray better player than Hewitt though
+Le Master Trollious Hewitt is not shit that's ignorant and disrespectful he had a lot of injuries it's amazing how all these new tennis fans disrespect past champions.
Wawrinka called that ball out at 8:05. That landed right on the line
24 frames per second can be deceiving
So can tennis players. Happens all the time.
If you watch the frame just before the bounce you'll see the shadow of the ball is already out past the baseline, and it hasn't even bounced yet. The frame of the ball/ground contact is missing which makes it look like it bounced in, happens all the time as well.
+Rory H More like 15.
7:20 OMG
+ZETEANU that was hilarious, super fast
Murray and fed have the best snippers in tennis, they can play around with anyone.
I rate Wawrinka above Murray though. Murray is way too defensive, and doesn't even excel at that either. Don't ask me how he won his Grand Slams.
Toby G u r hating blindly
I don't hate anyone, @@randyyu2772, stop talking nonsense. I just find Murray to be boring and uninmpressive to watch and he has lost more finals than any top 5 player. Nough said.
@@tobiasgoldman Murray has been the more consistent player over the years, he reached about twice the amount of grand slam semis and finals that Stan reached. Stan has the bigger shots but Andy has the consistency. Consistency gets you further than big shots.
@@MartinJohnZ Well I can concede that. It's just that at the highest level of their game I would rate Stan higher and he creates more and is more entertaining to watch.
great practice 4 the 2 famous player...
Could you tell me what camera did you used for this one.
Me: _calls 911_
911: What is your emergency?
Me: Arrest Stan!!!
911: Reason?
Me: He is abusing the ball!!!!!!!!!!!!
Two great ball strikers
Man current Andy and Stan could never do this.
the last time both went 100% they got so injured that they can't even get back to their top game lol
Tennis of the highest order!!!
This is the difference between real professional players who have won many slams and titles and the ''really good guys'' you see down at your local courts lol, for the most part Stan and Murray aren't even going 100% here and they look incredibly good
I'd say they are 110%. They are playing with 0 pressure risking every shot and not missing. This could be some of the best tennis ever played 😂
I want wawrinka's FH
Ebby Maggie
I think so too.
This must be some of the best tennis ever played lol
Best vid ever
Awesome video
Jesus, how does Wawrinka get so much easy power off his backhand?
+bob jones the rotation of his shoulders allows him to get more power he has a big drawback and opens his body up all the way and that's on top of the fact that the ball hits on the center of the racket and the strength he possess really helps create that rocket like shot
+Nate V Nah. It was a rhetorical question, and it's not about strength.
+bob jones its about balance and strength but strength in the legs and core. It's also about technique and leverage and putting all those elements together to create racquet head speed. I'm sure you know what I mean but it's a common myth that it's "not about strength". The pros spend tons of time working on explosive strength exercises.
+chris ClarkSo it's about using body strength to gain racket head speed?
Apparently his racquet weighs 372grams..
wawrinka just expends sooo much energy, in a match vs Djokovic he often wins the first set but then just gets steadily beaten.
7:06 & 7:16
Wish I could hit like these Pros....Consistent and with power... :-((
just start hitting the ball 8 hours a day for 8 years. you will get there.
Shu Evan maybe not as good as a pro but certainly on a very high level :D
Shu Evan more importantly the right improvements (good coach) at the right time
Try playing all your life since the age of 5
this guy never just shuts up and watches does he?
Sir Pooch stfu
is that paul giamatti in the back ground talking?
It certainly is someone who doesn't like to be quiet.
Beautiful. Poetry in motion. All you wimpy guys playing with two hands like a little girl. . . . THIS is how a real MAN with talent hits a backhand. (Wawrinka ;)
Yes Wawrinka's 1 hand backhand is phenomenal, but two hand backhands can be equally as effective. Using a 1 hand backhand doesn't make you a "real man" aesthetically it looks better of course but quality is always more important, and both can create great quality shots. (If this was a joke forget what I just said)
I disagree, remember Agassi backhand? Safin payed with 2 hands too, one of the best backhand you'll ever see.
Bob Dobalina I play with a one handed backhand, it doesn't make you any manlier. The biggest mistake you can make is judging others' games based on appearances and whether they play a certain way. I am a Wawrinka fan, but I also have respect for Nadal, Murray, Djokovic and everyone else hat has two handed backhands.
Dat backhand....
7:12 パブちゃん！キレちゃった w
Buen video gracias
Interesting to see wawrinka´s shadow
Wawrinka's forehand is very much the same as Tomas Muster's......
Had the same thought while watching.
why are they playing so intensely in a warm up?
futnostalgia it's not a warmup - it's a practice session; these are world class athletes - very high performers and extremely competitive - just hitting easy drills gets boring very quickly - they need to hit out - go all out - it's in their nature.
8:47
what
Masterpiece
Why am I only watching this now
yea
うまいなぁ
POWER!!
Show esse treino. Vale o ingresso
Lol, andy always walks as if he is hurting bad.
His knee is fucked though
err they are proffessional athletes at the top of their game. Their bodies are fucked mate
Gorgeous
Good god, some of those put aways. POP!
Here here !!
ワウリンカ調子良すぎ
Satisfying.
This is ten times more exciting than womens final... WTA is a joke btw
One could argue that it's a joke. ..
But then again the prize money when these WTA players make on a single slam alone is probably more than most people in the world make thier whole lives.
yes men are better not to be rude
9:30 when wawrinka has eaten Murray soul
マリャーの球。速いね
They play real points at the end, not practice.
This is one of the better practice videos that shows the definition of poor control on a higher pro level. The reasons can be stated for good comparison but murray has a lot of issues to work through, carrying a bad back looking like an old man.
things got a lil heated lol
:30 yas
His slice is mediocre but who needs it his backhand drive is wow!!
+You En Mediocre? hahaha, i guess you have a better one right?
In this video you can see why Murray is the ultimate pusher
6onza what do you mean that ultimate pusher
7:38 shows that when he wants to, he has some firepower in this forehand but 95% of the time he will hit it round and "secure"... his backhand on the other hand is quite flat and relaxed
Vincent Chaigneau Murray has a lot of power and was hitting it hard in his first few years. Then he chose to push, which is such a huge shame.
@@kentinmania It was a serve return,he just used the power of the opponent.He couldn't generate power from a neutral position.
Yeah I think "pusher" is a bit of a relative term here