You didn't just compare Serum and Vital, you also compared years of experience with days of experience with a synth. Sure, some concepts carry over, but each synth is their own thing anyway. Should you switch? Certainly not. Should you use both? That depends on whether you prefer working with one or several synths. For me, I use several synths (depending on the sound I'm going for); Vital is one synth in that rotation now.
@@Metalpazallteway For me, Phase Plant is superior to either, but I guess that it's because it gels particularly well with my way of designing sounds. Objectively, Phase Plant has many more oscillators (32 things in the generator section is the limit), much better fx routing (multiple lanes, Snapheap and Multipass integration, multiples of effects possible), more modulations, more flexible audio rate modulations for FM/AM/PM, but also individually slightly worse effects and not as sophisticated wavetable management (though it's absolutely there, it isn't the focus like it is in Serum / Vital), and less filter options. Personally, when I need a synth, I usually grab Phase Plant. I use Vital for everything involving TTWT or fancy filters, and Serum for modifying presets from other people. For actual sound design, Serum is too limited to me now (it's mostly just "FM from B" really when you watch tutorials, too), while Vital found its niche alongside Phase Plant.
@@haslo_ I was thinking the same thing, and the fact you can move things around PP is just so much more flexible. I've heard of other subscription tables like ANA 2 which is nice with what it can do with one knob but sincerely it looks like the limitation lanes on serum or ANA2 or even Vital make phase plant the better contender due to many more voices and macros ability. Or so it appears to be so, the only thing I'm really missing from the 3 or 4 plugins is a patent sound that makes me go to them as some are more for sound design vs others may be more for music making so lush sounds or EDM modern or even 90s sound is what I look for. Kind of what like Access Virus could do.
@@mofalkmusic the thing is,that Vital uses actual FM while Serum uses phase modulation. So you'll have to modulate the phase to get the same effect, you'd get same effect as with Serum FM
@@alexhaven8709 whats a phaseplant exclusive feature ??? phase modulation or real frequency modulation?? both are old and used in ALOT of synths... phase modulation is used in mostly every "FM Synth" .. yes ironically most FM synths and most FM sections on synths are actually PM... real FM however is part of the fun of every modular synth.. and is "older" then phase modulation... however none of them is phaseplant exclusive... but phaseplant can do both.. serum and vital however both use PM as FM .. at least in the if you choose the FM Modulator that is actually PM ... however you can achieve FM through the LFOs ... and here is Vital a step ahead where you can switch the LFOs to be Keytracked and in pitch basically making the LFOs to FM Operators with completey free waveform.. you might can do that in serum but that would need quite some fiddeling with modulating the lfo speed by note and so mapping that accurately well I don't do it :D Serums LFOs on the other hand have their modulateable points.. so even Vital and Serum are similar they both have their own strengths ... I personally like the Workflow of Vital more.. it is more fluid in my opinion.. I personally also prefer the sound of vital.. since it is also more fluid or round or so... and those spectral modulators for the wavetable are my cup of tea.. as a spectral synthese fan.. however serum also has it's very unique strengths and features..
I can run 8 vitals at the same time and my cpu is fine. And i have a 10 year old lenovo pc. Serum uses wayyy too much cpu. Prolly cuz you might be an apple user or it depends on the pc
Vital is not meant to replace Serum, they co-exist. A lot of people really like to compare those 2 because they seem to be the most similar in terms of approach towards synthesis (Both wavetables, panels, LFO's and Envelopes on the front page, etc etc). However, people do have to consider that all of these similarities can be find in any other synthesizer out there. Vital works far different on the inside than Serum does and the goal from the start was to make an insanely visual synthesizer with real-time feedback and complex ways to deform your audio (Hence why Vital focuses on the Spectral Morphs). It's fun to see you replace all of your serum instances with Vital and check the result though! Really fun idea. But to close things off, please everyone, take into account that Vital is NOT MEANT to replace Serum!
Love this comment! I know it's been 2 years, but I'm curious what your opinion is on this: What can Vital do differently than Serum that allows the two to co-exist in a professional production?
Most people use Serum because it's said to be the best one out there, and there is no point using another one when you already have the best. However, if you don't have either, Vital is definitely easier to access and to use because it is free
All Synths in my opinion have value. I think Massive has great sounds, so does Serum, Vital, Sylenth1, and Spire. Do not forget about the Arturia Synths as well They are all great in their own unique way
Thanks Mo Falk! I know this is an old video, but it was eye opening for me. I just downloaded the free version of Vital because I've realized that, as I become more professional in my productions, I'm utilizing Serum too often (IMO). In your perspective, when and why should someone use Vital in their productions when they already own Serum? Much love
The concept of redoing a track with vital is very good. Too bad you didn't switch back and forth between the two tracks for us to notice the differences more easily.
I've been using and trying to understand serum for a long time and it's always gave me a huge headache, but switching to vital absolutely blew my mind and made me at ease when creating new sounds
I've been trying to find something to replace the classics since i've been in this game a while and they're feeling a bit dusty. Serum, FM8, sylenth... I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it, you can't beat the classics. Any synth worthwhile has gotta be doing something new otherwise the best it can hope for is "almost as good".
Sylenth1 anyone ? :p
Whats that lol
🤣🤣🤣
LOL
Spire anyone?
3x osc anyone? 😂😂😂
DUDE! I want that white hoodie with the serum logo on! 0:23
Actually that looks cool
Vital will most likely take over unless Serum brings something new to the game.
You didn't just compare Serum and Vital, you also compared years of experience with days of experience with a synth. Sure, some concepts carry over, but each synth is their own thing anyway.
Should you switch? Certainly not. Should you use both? That depends on whether you prefer working with one or several synths. For me, I use several synths (depending on the sound I'm going for); Vital is one synth in that rotation now.
Is phase plant anywhere in between?? Or better/worse?
@@Metalpazallteway For me, Phase Plant is superior to either, but I guess that it's because it gels particularly well with my way of designing sounds. Objectively, Phase Plant has many more oscillators (32 things in the generator section is the limit), much better fx routing (multiple lanes, Snapheap and Multipass integration, multiples of effects possible), more modulations, more flexible audio rate modulations for FM/AM/PM, but also individually slightly worse effects and not as sophisticated wavetable management (though it's absolutely there, it isn't the focus like it is in Serum / Vital), and less filter options.
Personally, when I need a synth, I usually grab Phase Plant. I use Vital for everything involving TTWT or fancy filters, and Serum for modifying presets from other people. For actual sound design, Serum is too limited to me now (it's mostly just "FM from B" really when you watch tutorials, too), while Vital found its niche alongside Phase Plant.
@@haslo_ I was thinking the same thing, and the fact you can move things around PP is just so much more flexible. I've heard of other subscription tables like ANA 2 which is nice with what it can do with one knob but sincerely it looks like the limitation lanes on serum or ANA2 or even Vital make phase plant the better contender due to many more voices and macros ability. Or so it appears to be so, the only thing I'm really missing from the 3 or 4 plugins is a patent sound that makes me go to them as some are more for sound design vs others may be more for music making so lush sounds or EDM modern or even 90s sound is what I look for. Kind of what like Access Virus could do.
Rn im watching this video just to hear "Thank You" lol
Now convert all of the Serum sounds to 3xOSC
3:43
I can see Mo is becoming a young adept of Teaselano himself :D
I womps seem like a designer shortcoming, not the synth. AKA lost in translation.
i couldnt agree more haha
@@mofalkmusic the thing is,that Vital uses actual FM while Serum uses phase modulation. So you'll have to modulate the phase to get the same effect, you'd get same effect as with Serum FM
@@peternrdstrm it literally doesnt tho lol, pretty sure thats a phaseplant exclusive feature for now. phase modulation is way more musical anyways
@@alexhaven8709 whats a phaseplant exclusive feature ??? phase modulation or real frequency modulation?? both are old and used in ALOT of synths... phase modulation is used in mostly every "FM Synth" .. yes ironically most FM synths and most FM sections on synths are actually PM... real FM however is part of the fun of every modular synth.. and is "older" then phase modulation...
however none of them is phaseplant exclusive... but phaseplant can do both..
serum and vital however both use PM as FM .. at least in the if you choose the FM Modulator that is actually PM ... however you can achieve FM through the LFOs ... and here is Vital a step ahead where you can switch the LFOs to be Keytracked and in pitch basically making the LFOs to FM Operators with completey free waveform..
you might can do that in serum but that would need quite some fiddeling with modulating the lfo speed by note and so mapping that accurately well I don't do it :D
Serums LFOs on the other hand have their modulateable points..
so even Vital and Serum are similar they both have their own strengths ...
I personally like the Workflow of Vital more.. it is more fluid in my opinion.. I personally also prefer the sound of vital.. since it is also more fluid or round or so... and those spectral modulators for the wavetable are my cup of tea.. as a spectral synthese fan..
however serum also has it's very unique strengths and features..
@@NoNameLeft1500 bruh im sayin vital uses pm. real fm is a pp exclusive feature
ahh It's not christmas yet!!
3:47 You are Santa. Please give me free sample pack.
That Jingle Bells remix tho?!?
U can really feel the crispyness of serum in the original. Fried chicken energy.
Also what was your cpu usage of vital compared to Serum? mine was way bigger with Vital!!
I can run 8 vitals at the same time and my cpu is fine. And i have a 10 year old lenovo pc. Serum uses wayyy too much cpu. Prolly cuz you might be an apple user or it depends on the pc
@@kimyona9746 i use a 5 year old intel cpu on windows and so far I've had more problems with vital than with serum
@@snowjade oof depends on computer i guess. Vital is all i use and i have absolutely no problems at all with it
3:33 i think there’s a way to gm modulate using the advanced tab
I really love that vocal sample that you always use, the one that sounds like "right", it's super cool
Vital is not meant to replace Serum, they co-exist. A lot of people really like to compare those 2 because they seem to be the most similar in terms of approach towards synthesis (Both wavetables, panels, LFO's and Envelopes on the front page, etc etc). However, people do have to consider that all of these similarities can be find in any other synthesizer out there. Vital works far different on the inside than Serum does and the goal from the start was to make an insanely visual synthesizer with real-time feedback and complex ways to deform your audio (Hence why Vital focuses on the Spectral Morphs).
It's fun to see you replace all of your serum instances with Vital and check the result though! Really fun idea.
But to close things off, please everyone, take into account that Vital is NOT MEANT to replace Serum!
Love this comment! I know it's been 2 years, but I'm curious what your opinion is on this:
What can Vital do differently than Serum that allows the two to co-exist in a professional production?
Thanks for explaining the difference😎
1:08 lol bro it works almost exactly like serum
Dude! Your studio looks just like Jonas' studio!
Most people use Serum because it's said to be the best one out there, and there is no point using another one when you already have the best. However, if you don't have either, Vital is definitely easier to access and to use because it is free
If you know how to use Serum then you've probably already paid for it lol but for anyone just starting out on a budget then Vital is a no brainer
You should turn the outro song into a song called "thank you" would be dopeee😍🔥🔥🔥
What is the Genre of this song, I want to learn to produce this genre.
Love this vid
I was hoping you would make a video on Vital!
just staying till the end to hear the final music i love itttt
I use Vital but I actually prefer Serum more just dont want to buy serum
I think you just got used to the Womps from Serum.
@@leestanford2452 they're both cool. Some adjustments will make the Vital one better.
2:20 big oof :D
Lets see a new Pigments new version VS Serum VS Vital
I think vital is just like a free version of serum. That's why I use vital, it's a really good plugin for beginners
What, if we combine Vital with Serum?
Virum.... Setal.... You know what I mean xD
2:35 Vital
4:25 Serum
Vital consume mucha cpu
Gangster Mo has entered the house
i think vital is overall better then serum
This sounds really good manh how on earth did u master the synth so fast???
The thing is: serum and vital work very similar. So getting used to vital is probably not that hard, if you are good at sounddesign
@@yony_music yea true mate👍
00:21 hahaha! Relatable. Happens to me too when I share my "my attempts at" music production with people 🤣
Can you get copyright on your videos with your own music?
All Synths in my opinion have value.
I think Massive has great sounds, so does Serum, Vital, Sylenth1, and Spire.
Do not forget about the Arturia Synths as well
They are all great in their own unique way
Okay you’ve got Nutella we get it!
for me serum better
Thank You for the "Thank You" [5:56]
Personally, I feel that Serum and Vital will go hand in hand later
yeah once people learn how to use vital
@@musicbymason lol, it's like almost the same xddddd
@@tamlin434 i know haha
Vital is basically serum with a third oscillator and a faster workflow tbh. Also spectral morphing owo
@@tamlin434 yoooooo
Nutella is one of my favourite songs 😃
serum vs vps avenger? haha
Haha dude just use both🔥
Vital gang kek
4th lol
Awkward product placement for a suger bomb.
idk what u mean that video is soooo old
@@mofalkmusic ignorance
Yo great video man
Bro you should do a tutorial how you made the vocals on Nutela ...They are so cool.
Thanks Mo Falk! I know this is an old video, but it was eye opening for me. I just downloaded the free version of Vital because I've realized that, as I become more professional in my productions, I'm utilizing Serum too often (IMO).
In your perspective, when and why should someone use Vital in their productions when they already own Serum?
Much love
The womp sounds like an FX thing to me, could probably be replicated with some sort of dimension explander type thing
Vital over Serum. Serum is fucking CPU
HOGG
Bro can you make a song using only native plugins from FL Studio. Would be so cool your music is great hope we can collab some day :).
Vital is really great synthesiser.. like Iris and Synthmaster. Serum not bad, but so difficult to use. thats why i newer use Serum.
My opinion:
Vital is good
But serum has that sound that makes serum stand out
But vital is amazing for being free
I think their are hidden gems that vital can achieve,
The concept of redoing a track with vital is very good. Too bad you didn't switch back and forth between the two tracks for us to notice the differences more easily.
Cool comparison man! But I´ll stick to serum for now ;)
how did Mo Falk made that "womp" sound?
vital is more powerfull then serum
this is dope thanks for doing this.
It is almost chrimus
is there a difference in CPU?
0:44 Who doesn't like Nutella?
Why do you look like ellon musk
Which should I buy, Serum or Electra2?
Idk
Nutella???? Cheese
Came for the dance
Am i first? I think i am boyzzz😂
Serum Win
nice production dude
Second haha
I've been using and trying to understand serum for a long time and it's always gave me a huge headache, but switching to vital absolutely blew my mind and made me at ease when creating new sounds
😍😍😍😍😍❤
N O I C E
yesssss
Brrr
🐐
Love from india (God's own country ) Kerala
I've been trying to find something to replace the classics since i've been in this game a while and they're feeling a bit dusty. Serum, FM8, sylenth... I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it, you can't beat the classics. Any synth worthwhile has gotta be doing something new otherwise the best it can hope for is "almost as good".
Super fair!!! Recently I've really liked the phase plant and kilohearts updates they've made!! But yea, again, nothing 'suuuper innovative' there