2024 BMW 5 Series i5 M60 with 600HP! // REVIEW on AUTOBAHN

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  • BMW 5 Series i5 M60 Review
    00:00 Walkaround
    05:20 Interior
    08:26 Test Drive
    11:25 Autobahn
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  • @thisisntgood71
    @thisisntgood71 5 місяців тому +202

    You know what I love about your videos? You're real and don't try and sugarcoat anything. Brutal honesty is hard to come by these days. Don't stop 😎

  • @rubbermoetroken
    @rubbermoetroken 5 місяців тому +344

    Despite the fake sound etc, that range falsification is just criminal. And bear in mind, you had 1,5degrees not minus 12.

    • @MP-Fin
      @MP-Fin 5 місяців тому +39

      Here in Finland it’s common in winter to be -10c to -20c everyday for months…. Imagine here….

    • @fuhrerhosty
      @fuhrerhosty 5 місяців тому +18

      ​@@MP-Fin That's why it baffles me why Sweden had like 40% of all car sales electric this year.

    • @jaceking1988
      @jaceking1988 5 місяців тому

      @@fuhrerhosty sweden wants people to drive electric cars so the government gives you like $7k if u buy a electic car and also by the year 2030 all mayor citys are going full electric so you cant even drive in the citys with a gas powered car anymore

    • @jtherealtor
      @jtherealtor 5 місяців тому +5

      @@fuhrerhosty tax benefits (extortion)?

    • @JayyyCloud
      @JayyyCloud 5 місяців тому +1

      @@fuhrerhostyGood infrastructure

  • @naurnah98
    @naurnah98 5 місяців тому +110

    Finally someone who isn’t afraid to speak the truth about all of this all electric nonsense. Subscribed!

  • @shtopfl5247
    @shtopfl5247 5 місяців тому +258

    BMW have lost their mojo, their soul in order to appeal to the Chinese market and its so obvious, the new cars feel so rushed and focused on bling bling and tech everywhere and lights and stuff that it’s frankly overwhelming you’re right in every way Max 😄

    • @Overdiedaf
      @Overdiedaf 5 місяців тому

      Nee… dat is de omslag waarin we nu zitten. Iedereen zal MOETEN

    • @shtopfl5247
      @shtopfl5247 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Overdiedaf English please or German ? 🙈

    • @marcelburghart9739
      @marcelburghart9739 5 місяців тому +3

      No they dont the " Neue Klasse" is great. Besides that BMW is a AG that means they have to make Money and they do. Thats all what matters. Besides that Europe is not the main market for BMW these times are over since decades. You have to make cars for the world not for europe otherwise you will fall off. Take Volkswagen the id7 literally nobody wants it in Asia because its made for Europe and boring.

    • @Daumex
      @Daumex 5 місяців тому +2

      @@marcelburghart9739 Cope harder ☠

    • @spikespiegel2246
      @spikespiegel2246 5 місяців тому

      gubmint ruins everything.

  • @Zsword92
    @Zsword92 5 місяців тому +243

    Appreciate your transparency about electric cars Max. I also can't go for all the fake aspects. And what's up with BMW's terrible nomenclature these days...

    • @myles6235
      @myles6235 5 місяців тому

      I find it odd that BMW has been playing audio through speakers for years and people only complain when it's an EV.

  • @paulpeter2966
    @paulpeter2966 5 місяців тому +83

    It is really mind blowing how this electric vehicles were pushed on us. How in the world is someone going to pay 130.000 € for a 300 km range? We are going backwards!
    And let not speak about the depreciation on this cars. Once new technology is out, they will be worth close to nothing in 2-5 years.

    • @emil5598
      @emil5598 5 місяців тому +9

      No car on this planet can sadly safe the environment, but to have a good benefit, we would need a instant switch now, not only to evs, but also to more green energy, like wind and water. Battery technology got much better in the last years, especially in the materials needed and recycling. But the general concept of everyone owning a car is sadly just not good for the environment. We have to build cities that are accessible without cars, and only use cars on longer ranges, we can't make a change otherwise

    • @tiagofilipe6592
      @tiagofilipe6592 5 місяців тому +5

      Very true, and keep in mind that EVs make much more pollution for being built vs ICE cars (just compare the weights). All the extra minerals and metals that have to be mined and transformed. Then one has to take into consideration that most of transport pollution are made by industry transporation and not by passengers cars. And in all the graphs they never take into account or show the military industry, I wonder why...

    • @tiagofilipe6592
      @tiagofilipe6592 5 місяців тому +8

      @@emil5598 You make it sound like cars are one of the major sources of pollution when that is not the case. Any port in a city makes more polllution than all the cars on that city. The industry transportation (shipping and others) make more pollution. Also the military industry they have no problem increasing spending on that. Cities are built organically and not centrally planned, they will fail miseribly unless you're on a dictature like Saudi Arabia (but let's see how that will work). NetZero will be a bigger failure than ZeroCovid, though they probbaly will make a larger damage. Increased poverty, inflation, deindustrialization and green colonialism. We already saw some glimpses of the caused misery in Sri Lanka when you joined the two ideologies.

    • @emil5598
      @emil5598 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@tiagofilipe6592I know transportation is just the 2nd heaviest sector in terms of emmissions... right after energy production.. isnt even worth improving on right? Industrie isn in 3rd place btw

    • @whocares6302
      @whocares6302 5 місяців тому

      @@emil5598 "wind or water" are among most planet and human destructive ways of obtaining power in the world. If you want to speak about safe and eco-friendly speak about nuclear. 200x more human deaths than traditional coal-mines or nuclear power plants. sadly Euro-terrorists like germany are banning nuclear power, becouse then they have no grift and control over it.

  • @ttjoseph1
    @ttjoseph1 5 місяців тому +62

    As an EV owner, I don't think EVs make sense unless you charge at home - in which case the experience is better than ICE. If you have to charge at public chargers all the time, it's a difficult sell.

    • @mjkski2
      @mjkski2 5 місяців тому +4

      Yep. This is the difference. Starting from home with a full tank as opposed to hunting down working chargers

    • @halo-7797
      @halo-7797 3 місяці тому

      I wouldn’t be upset with EVs if we simply had a choice. They know sales would be barely nearing 10% at best in the future if they didn’t plan to ban ICE cars. All that EV marketing is trying to compensate you with useless technology and "innovation" for lacking the actual driving experience. It’s like an automotive cuckholding. And the worst part is that EVs are more detrimental to the environment than ICE vehicles, it’s just removing pollution from one sector and tripling it in another.

  • @user-xv3ip5vx4e
    @user-xv3ip5vx4e 5 місяців тому +139

    Completely agree with the review. I was recently faced with a decision when buying a new car. Just couldn’t take the risk with electric so got an M340i Touring instead. Drive it across France to Switzerland and averaged over 40 mpg, so over 500 miles on a tank. Stopped for 5 mins to refuel and drove on. Cannot recharge at home and public infrastructure a lottery. Need real world range of more than 400 miles and public charging in under 15 minutes. Then it starts to look more interesting.

    • @ThisIsMTH
      @ThisIsMTH 5 місяців тому +8

      Spot on. Same boat as me (and a substantial amount of others I would guess)

    • @titibobo2000
      @titibobo2000 5 місяців тому

      ​@@ThisIsMTHHere!

    • @alexeysafronov6447
      @alexeysafronov6447 5 місяців тому

      When it will be the same as gas the price for charging up will be equal at first.
      Then, they will just add a markup for charging to keep rolling car prices further to the moon.
      Then, guess what? It will be declared that the demand of lithium is great and create deficit on that, making car prices skyrocket even further.
      And then you will have to change your battery to a refurbished one, because all others are unavailable, reducing the power of the vehicle.
      It's just a world wide fraud.

    • @n1klasmxms251
      @n1klasmxms251 5 місяців тому +6

      Bro the m340i is such a crazy good car. Over every electric car

    • @myles6235
      @myles6235 5 місяців тому +2

      Plenty of cars have 400+ miles of range. The issue in this video was a non-preconditioned battery. For low temperatures like in the video it's a must. In my experience, owning an EV is nothing close to risky, however I do drive a Tesla. That being said the 340 is a great car and you probably made a great choice. EVs are quite boring to drive.

  • @ianrobertson8514
    @ianrobertson8514 5 місяців тому +52

    "Overpaying for nonsense" just about sums it up !

    • @user-fp1vm5ev1u
      @user-fp1vm5ev1u 3 місяці тому

      Overpaying on top of overpaying for a bmw

  • @WUNNA3500
    @WUNNA3500 5 місяців тому +783

    it's not a bmw

    • @bombardjero1563
      @bombardjero1563 5 місяців тому +116

      It’s something from Korea

    • @DaleSteel
      @DaleSteel 5 місяців тому +12

      It definitely is

    • @TehScareM8
      @TehScareM8 5 місяців тому +67

      it is lmao, BMW just make ugly, stupid cars now

    • @Beluga..
      @Beluga.. 5 місяців тому +8

      Yes it’s a pachyderm

    • @PrinceBarin77
      @PrinceBarin77 5 місяців тому +6

      OP is spot on. Makes me sad.

  • @mary-roserussell8097
    @mary-roserussell8097 5 місяців тому +58

    Max. In a short road review you have encapsulated the utter dillemma of owning and running an EV. Especially a high performance one with 600 bhp like this I5 ! Yes, it goes like stink but if you use that performance for any length of time, your range disappears before your eyes ! Where is the fun or the sense in that ? Not sure what the manufacturers are doing here in pushing out these new EV's with lots of power and with incredibly exorbitant prices. . They make no sense at all.
    I have just watched a raid test by Harry Garage of a new SUV made by Lotus. Even the cheapest version puts out 600 bhp and costs almost £90,000 ! And this by a manufacturer who made their reputation by building lightweight, well handling cars that didnt cost the earth and many ordinary punters could afford.
    I am 76 years of age and been a car nut for most of my life. At present I run a Audi Q8 55TFSI bought new in June of this year. It is my second one and the firts time I reluctantly had a foray into the SUV world.....mostly because of ease of access for my aching old joints .
    I bought it mostly because I do an extensice road trip to Deutschland twice a year where I do some significant miles. Ok, it "only " has 350 bhp compare to the outputs that soem of the EV's are producing. However, even at average speeds of 80-120 mph on permitted Autobahns, my Q8 will give me a range of almost 600 miles.
    So, I can make my home in Hampshire, to the Eurotunnel site in Kent and then onto my firts stop just outside Dortmund with ease without having to refuel. It s a combined mileage of almost 500 miles. I would predict that I would need probably 2 and maybe 3 visits to a charging point to do that journey. That would probably put 2 possibly 3 hours onto that journey time.
    I really cannot stomach that much coffee and until newer technology is developed which substantially increases the range of an EV I will stick with my ICE.

    • @BaeHarrier
      @BaeHarrier 5 місяців тому +8

      Thanks for your comment. Good input and kind regards from a big Lotus fan and driver. It all ends with the Emira and I‘m sure they‘ll shut the Hethel plant after this. Lotus Engineering might survive, but that‘s it. The rest will be badge engineered EVs from China.

    • @BiiYAAAA
      @BiiYAAAA 5 місяців тому +3

      LEAVE THE WORLD BEHIND TELLS IT ALL ... MORE CONTROL

    • @mjkski2
      @mjkski2 5 місяців тому +1

      Good points but when I purchase cars I go by the 90 percent rule. Does it work well for 90 percent of my demands? So for two trips a year you could always rent a car. Lastly I would never buy an EV. With leasing, I’m not married to yesterday’s technology and especially with EV being in its infancy I think it could be a huge mistake

    • @myles6235
      @myles6235 5 місяців тому

      There are already EV's with 500 miles of range. The Lucid Air (100,000 euro) will get you your entire journey with 1 short (less than 30 minute) stop at a charge. There are certainly more to come in such a competitive market. Even a much cheaper vehicle, like the Tesla Model Y Long range, will get you there in 2 short stops. I have road tripped thousands of miles in my Tesla, never stopping for more than 30 minutes at a charger. I would hardly call 1 hour added on to your twice yearly trip enough of a downside to surpass the plentiful upsides of owning an EV. For 99% of driving, an affordable EV is much more convenient than a gasoline car.

    • @timessix8434
      @timessix8434 5 місяців тому

      Range is one thing. The time you spend standing still charging, when you really would like to be getting somewhere, is another…

  • @aldra744
    @aldra744 5 місяців тому +64

    This is very sad direction where BMW and rest auto industry is going..

  • @alistairholt
    @alistairholt 5 місяців тому +24

    I think the industry is too busy chasing performance and tech gimmicks in electric cars when they should be focussing on efficiency and range. I’d hate to have one of these.

    • @cyberpope2137
      @cyberpope2137 4 місяці тому +1

      Euro car makers don’t have the tech to get any sort of reasonable ranges, that’s why it’s all gimmicks

  • @Swaggon
    @Swaggon 5 місяців тому +59

    Yuup, G30/G31 such a beauty compared to this. Keeping my 540i G31 LCI

    • @G31-RAF
      @G31-RAF 5 місяців тому +2

      Fr I Own A G30 540i Xdrive and I Love its Design way more than this

    • @187Lausbubenbande
      @187Lausbubenbande 5 місяців тому +2

      that g30 gen the e39 and e34 are the best looking 5series.

    • @Swaggon
      @Swaggon 5 місяців тому +1

      @@187Lausbubenbande Das ist der G60. G30 ist der ältere. G30/G31 LCI + Luxury Line ist die beste Front die BMW gemacht hat. e-serie viel zu veraltet

    • @187Lausbubenbande
      @187Lausbubenbande 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Swaggon ja ich meinte ja den g30 Gen also nicht den der jz rausgekommen ist

  • @jonas72778
    @jonas72778 5 місяців тому +14

    All These new Cars simply Don’t give you the same feeling like cars 5-15 years ago … I don’t have a connection to all these cars

  • @donertv5303
    @donertv5303 5 місяців тому +16

    BMW can you please make beautiful cars again??😢

  • @lasselaitinen4161
    @lasselaitinen4161 5 місяців тому +13

    You're absolutly right on every downside of electric cars in general and especially on this BMW. I don't understand why BMW has ruined their cars. Even the 5-series. It's sad.

  • @adriankurz5385
    @adriankurz5385 5 місяців тому +8

    I love that you don't play the stupid game os other car journalists, that only say what the car manufacturers pay them to say. Keep up the good work!

    • @SimJoy
      @SimJoy 5 місяців тому

      I have noticed that most of the new 5/i5 reviewers are so impressed in their reviews and just a few mention the cost savings, it is clearly that BMW invest a lot of money to PR and reviewers, instead of investing them into the quality of their product. Also they have no interest to reduce the prices (they are even increase them) because they are selling their cars like hot cakes in China and US and they increase the profits for the share holders by making the interior cheaper (compared with G30).

  • @allelsefailed83
    @allelsefailed83 5 місяців тому +49

    It seems to me - just considering design - that there is some kind of disconnect between front and rear. I think especially the front looks much more like a (hypthotical) 1-series than a 5-series. Curious what other engine choices may be like (should there be a powerful Diesel, e. g.)

    • @AOTanoos22
      @AOTanoos22 5 місяців тому

      yea remindas me of a 2 series active tourer.

  • @BastiCi
    @BastiCi 5 місяців тому +4

    Love my F10 530i on Autobahn today...comfy, fast and i love these analogue Instruments.. everyone goes to the right when i am in the Back mirror...crazy

  • @hellodlo
    @hellodlo 5 місяців тому +2

    You're not alone, i allocated one (i5 m60) back in sept/oct and I changed my mind. Glad i did. I purchased an x5 m60i instead. way happier than dealing with public charging and its nuances

  • @FrankSchloemann
    @FrankSchloemann 5 місяців тому +9

    carbon mirrors are very important on a 2400 kg car 😂

    • @blackpanda7612
      @blackpanda7612 5 місяців тому

      Mate, Carbon mirrors are an option on almost every premium vehicle, even SUV's. SUV's like the Aston Martin DBX and Lamborghini Ururs and these cars are all HEAVY and not what I would take to a race track. So you must have been living under a rock the past decade or more to come to this realization that these premium auto makers are giving customers the options to add carbon cosmetic parts to their vehicles 😂😂

  • @jconrad8585
    @jconrad8585 5 місяців тому +54

    Agree with you completely on electric cars.
    There's really no benefit to them, the worse thing is that they don't even save the environment at the end of the day. Battery production is terrible for the environment

    • @aftl_ryz8549
      @aftl_ryz8549 5 місяців тому +8

      No car on this planet can sadly safe the environment, but to have a good benefit, we would need a instant switch now, not only to evs, but also to more green energy, like wind and water. Battery technology got much better in the last years, especially in the materials needed and recycling. But the general concept of everyone owning a car is sadly just not good for the environment. We have to build cities that are accessible without cars, and only use cars on longer ranges, we can't make a change otherwise

    • @emil5598
      @emil5598 5 місяців тому +1

      @@aftl_ryz8549 thank you, finally someone in these comments who gets the big picture! individual transport in the current form of cars cant ever be 100% zero emission. but bc right now our infrastructure is so dependent on them we cant just cut them from one day to the other. EV´s certainly arent the ultimate future of transportation but they are a crucial part of the transformation into an eco friendly future.

    • @marcelburghart9739
      @marcelburghart9739 5 місяців тому +7

      "Battery production is terrible for the environment" yeah but its a one time thing. The battery can be recycelt but burning oil is terrible for the environment evrytime. and the oil is gone forever.

    • @tiagofilipe6592
      @tiagofilipe6592 5 місяців тому

      @@aftl_ryz8549 (Interesting how there are several different users with the same comments (ESG oligarch bots?) You make it sound like cars are one of the major sources of pollution when that is not the case. Any port in a city makes more polllution than all the cars on that city. The industry transportation (shipping and others) make more pollution. Also the military industry they have no problem increasing spending on that. Cities are built organically and not centrally planned, they will fail miseribly unless you're on a dictature like Saudi Arabia (but let's see how that will work). NetZero will be a bigger failure than ZeroCovid, though they probbaly will make a larger damage. Increased poverty, inflation, deindustrialization and green colonialism. We already saw some glimpses of the caused misery in Sri Lanka when you joined the two ideologies.

    • @tiagofilipe6592
      @tiagofilipe6592 5 місяців тому

      @@marcelburghart9739 Only a small percentage is recycled and it is more expensive. They also said the same thing about solar panels and wind turbines, go see all the landfills filled with them. You'll keep buying the materials to China (kings of coal) and promote the NetZero fraud of which the EVs are the supreme example. Like true flatearthers. Also it seems some people don't like all the insreased mining for electrification, go see the disputes of the extension of one of the biggest copper mines in the Americas in Panama. Damaging rainforest and the environment.

  • @lesliecowling2427
    @lesliecowling2427 5 місяців тому +9

    Max, Love your honesty. I sometimes think I'm going crazy because everybody raves about EV's. I sat in an i5 in the showroom whilst waiting for my G30 (in service and was immediately hit by how cheap it felt inside and the boot looked smaller than my old 23 year old E46 I used to have. I also prefer the two separate binnacles for the displays. I manage to get 700 miles a tank on my 530D and once driving with efficiency in mind got 830 with it just entering reserve of 50 left.

    • @diduvee
      @diduvee 4 місяці тому +1

      I can relate. While waiting for an oil change on my G31 530D, I sat in the new 5 Series. The front of the car still makes me cringe, but spending an hour in person looking at it made it more tolerable. The interior is another story; I despise the large display, poorly integrated into the console. The comfort seats in my G31 make me dislike the new ones. Cheap plastic is everywhere. I'll stick with my G31 until the next generation. Also, I hope the electric car hype ends soon; I'm tired of paying double taxes for driving diesel with lower carbon emissions than a petrol engine...

  • @ianmush6278
    @ianmush6278 5 місяців тому +2

    I think that generally a lot of people are loving to jump on the bandwagon and hating on this car. In actual facts, I am on several bmw forums and Reddit, and I see so many people buying this car and saying how lovely it is to drive. From the US, to Europe, lots of people buying this car because they love the the tech and the looks. It’s different. It’s unique. And some people love that. And it’s reflected in BMW’s sales numbers and that’s why they are not moving away from this design language. Hate all you want

  • @punjabhero9706
    @punjabhero9706 5 місяців тому +7

    The beeping when driving over the speed limit is an EU law. So it is the same for any make and model now no matter the brand. By law it has to turn on everytime you turn on the car.

    • @blackpanda7612
      @blackpanda7612 5 місяців тому +3

      Conveniently this bit of information was kept out of the review. Instead Max just decdies to wine about it instead of giving the 'Why' to the audience. lol

    • @utlord
      @utlord 4 місяці тому

      There is no beeping in my BMX x5 which i bought in october 2023.

    • @punjabhero9706
      @punjabhero9706 4 місяці тому

      @@utlord and you live in EU?

  • @sandra_sasse7863
    @sandra_sasse7863 5 місяців тому +6

    we need a 6.0 L, V12 again

  • @inflatable2
    @inflatable2 5 місяців тому +7

    100% correct on the China design part, it's not made for us Europeans anymore.. Also about the EV part.. We'll see how well the EU plans for the desired EV transition holds up in the upcoming 5-10 years.. I still don't see it happen as currently planned.. I think we'll need a hybrid transition periode first.. Also right about the i5 M60 being pointless.. If you want a EV 5-series, just get the i40.. Best 5-series overall would probably be the 550e, which combines best of both worlds.. Like I said, hybrid is where it's at right now..

  • @scottmayers1460
    @scottmayers1460 5 місяців тому +6

    Thanks Max for that review I knew I could count on you to set me straight on this new model. I currently have a 23F 90 M5 and I was considering this but after your review unbiased as I expected it to be and it was, you’ve definitely convinced me that Bmw has lost it.

  • @totommmoto
    @totommmoto 5 місяців тому

    Finally an honest review! Thanks, Max! Let's hope the new M5 is not the same deterioration of the F90 as this one is to the m550i

  • @JasperM1972
    @JasperM1972 5 місяців тому +4

    They can pry my G31 540i keys from my cold dead hands

  • @xSleeper.
    @xSleeper. 5 місяців тому +7

    someone at BMW need to get fired...
    they won so many people with the F and G series models and now losing like every one of them with these...

    • @zsolt1062
      @zsolt1062 5 місяців тому

      F series?
      Those were the worst BMWs.

    • @cairnhill64
      @cairnhill64 5 місяців тому

      @@zsolt1062LOL…F10 was bad? You must be joking

    • @zsolt1062
      @zsolt1062 5 місяців тому

      In 35 years, I owned all 5-er.
      It was not worth keeping the F-series beyond the warranty period.

    • @cairnhill64
      @cairnhill64 5 місяців тому

      @@zsolt1062 I have a 2014 F10 535 and no issues

    • @zsolt1062
      @zsolt1062 5 місяців тому

      @@cairnhill64 I'm in Europe, here the 35i is very very rare

  • @MahmutEkinci
    @MahmutEkinci 5 місяців тому +7

    It is build for the Chinese market, now that i think about it, you are so correct. Now it makes sense

  • @Timilias
    @Timilias 5 місяців тому

    Review is spot on! You said what we all are thinking

  • @StarkenJR
    @StarkenJR 5 місяців тому +13

    I own a i4 M50 and love it so far. I have 11kW charger at home and since I live in Sweden we have a pretty good charging network for longer trips.
    As for the speed limit warning, it's a new EU law for all car makers for 2024 models to have that feature on every time the car starts.

    • @yes8032
      @yes8032 5 місяців тому

      EU rules taking away our freedom again

  • @howluxe
    @howluxe 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video

  • @rivendeckard7841
    @rivendeckard7841 5 місяців тому

    I really, REALLY appreciate how straightforward and to the point you are with criticizing this EV, not beating around the bush at all. Majority of car youtubers look like they are doing everything to sugarcoat and not touch the subjects of obvious and glaring downsides of EVs these days.
    Reality with EVs as of 2023 is this - people will not switch to electric cars en masse simply because being on a leash of a battery is simply not pragmatic at all, unless you drive around the city and doing really short runs, and have a place to charge of course. And don't even start with this "battery revolution being just around the corner" nonsense... yea, I've heard that like seven times in the last 15 years or so.
    I really like Toyota's approach - full range of types of cars, ICE and EV to year 2050, and then we will see what happens. Free market, it's the customer who makes his choice.
    Personally I'm looking forward to developement of hydrogen (engines and hydrogen cells) and synthetic fuels in the next decade or so. Those two make way more sense than all this battery nonsense.

  • @r_mohammad79
    @r_mohammad79 5 місяців тому +1

    that sadness in your voice at the end,thank you Max for saying that:1.range 2.charging time

  • @GasMeter_
    @GasMeter_ 4 місяці тому

    You dissected the issues with this car beautifully, fantastic review

  • @4jup4ter4
    @4jup4ter4 5 місяців тому +4

    I'd appreciate a hybrid more over this. Now if I was a small business that dealt with luxury hotels to airport transfers on some exotic island then id consider a small fleet of i5 M60..😭

  • @MahmutEkinci
    @MahmutEkinci 5 місяців тому +3

    12:26 that's so well said 👏 it is what it is

  • @postmarandy
    @postmarandy 5 місяців тому +1

    Who needs new cars anyway. 1990-2015 gave us enough to pick from. ❤

  • @stowkontrent
    @stowkontrent 3 місяці тому

    Spot on Max. Honest as always and who'd pay 140,000€ for that! Can't begin to imagine the R&D costs that have been invested for something not as perfect as it should be. Tensions must be high at HQ...

  • @damagi7630
    @damagi7630 5 місяців тому +3

    Oh boy. Our G30 530e is now even more beautiful.

  • @TheSoundExpander
    @TheSoundExpander 5 місяців тому +1

    You were the only on the Hypercharger? Can you confirm that it was indeed a 300kw charger, and not 2x 75kw stacks in it? Seems like it since it went down to 75kw...
    We are distrubator for Alpitronic here in Sweden, and we sometimes pull out 1or 2 of the stacks since customer just paid for 150kw and we are ordering it as 300kw chargers (nowadays the stacks are 100kw each)

  • @ardaadguzel8954
    @ardaadguzel8954 5 місяців тому +1

    I loved your honesty. In our language we have a saying goes like “ i hate you so much cause i loved you so.” I guess thats what is going on between the fans and bmw right now

    • @SimJoy
      @SimJoy 5 місяців тому

      I feel the same, I like a lot my G32 LCI and I was thinking that the G61 will be its replacement in 2-3 years and I am quite disappointed and frustrated with what they did with G60.... I hope now that the new A6 will be what it should be.

  • @yassinalsulaiman9859
    @yassinalsulaiman9859 5 місяців тому

    Just bought the 2022 545e and couldn’t be happier

  • @florinrad4647
    @florinrad4647 5 місяців тому

    Absolutely love this bima 😮😮😮😮

  • @dinmor2701
    @dinmor2701 4 місяці тому

    I love these reviews and i agree with all the critics "overpaying for nonesense!" - may our old combustion cars be with us.

  • @bach6569
    @bach6569 5 місяців тому +2

    You can also adjust the amount of regenerative braking in a tesla btw

  • @Lenz-tz6rs
    @Lenz-tz6rs 5 місяців тому +3

    Bellshill.. 2 years time, you'll all be saying how nice a BMW this is...I personally think it looks fantastic...a little bit out of the norm, like the e60..
    But I do think it's nice. The g30 is gorgeous but, like most BMWs, the end up making the previous model look dated...not straight away, but in time....love the looks, although I'm hearing bad things about the feedback through the steering...ill wait to see.

  • @Ed23038
    @Ed23038 5 місяців тому +2

    I fully agree with you that the range is not enough for such an expensive car.

  • @AdamSt-me8ed
    @AdamSt-me8ed 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the honesty Matt! It’s a great car but not for petrol heads!

  • @igrvks
    @igrvks 5 місяців тому +1

    I am fully convinced the head of BMW design department has some incriminating evidence of some corporate wrongdoing and is holding the entire company hostage.

  • @Purrada
    @Purrada 5 місяців тому

    🥸 : "Hey look at me, I got lights in MI GRILL" 🤣

  • @botiszabo122
    @botiszabo122 5 місяців тому +1

    I totally agree with everything you say

  • @krugnutthebrabby5024
    @krugnutthebrabby5024 5 місяців тому +2

    No... you're not wrong about this car. Last gen was peak 5 series.

  • @super_sigma_
    @super_sigma_ 2 місяці тому

    I just bought a G30 545e for about half the retail price and seeing this just makes me chuckle.

  • @AlwaysWildCS
    @AlwaysWildCS 5 місяців тому +1

    So basically what they did is they took a comfortable long distance car and paired it with 200-300 km distance of battery, which realistically speaking needs to be charged every 1.5 hour. Still like that it's the same 5-series as the petrol one tho. Maybe if they triple the battery...

  • @dubber4life
    @dubber4life 5 місяців тому

    Spot on on your criticisms, not being harsh at all. If you don’t buy into the trend and look at it objectively it just doesn’t make sense…

  • @mohamadalhusin1251
    @mohamadalhusin1251 5 місяців тому +3

    Je hebt 100% gelijk vind ik, E-Autos zijn te vroeg nog !

  • @lelioarlt5966
    @lelioarlt5966 Місяць тому

    You are absolutely right - Performance + Electro doesn't fit at all. I had an i4 M50 and I am glad that I could pass it on to an collegue. So much lost time on long distance travels even when keeping speed down to 145. My wife took me some 1,5 hours off with her V250d when travelling with 2 cars back home some 750km.

  • @TajwarC
    @TajwarC 5 місяців тому +6

    I just can't see who would want this given the charging situation. Someone who wants power or a drivers car will just spend their £130,000 on a real car and someone who wants a better electric car has so many other options
    unfortunately people will still buy it and that's why these sorts of cars will continue to be made. A very sad time for the automotive industry

  • @nenadmercep3974
    @nenadmercep3974 5 місяців тому

    Hey, another grumpy grandpa here. It's great to see there are other people as frustrated by new cars as I am. Well, we will always have the 80s and 90s. 🙂

  • @metaaxis1150
    @metaaxis1150 4 місяці тому

    Spot on video as usual. Another reason for me not switching to electric is that in the near future I won't have the chance to drive petrol anymore thanks to Greta! Btw, love your POV videos - which camera/setup do you use for it?

  • @spaleds
    @spaleds 5 місяців тому

    It's nice to hear, there are a lot of people, who find the new bmw 5 (i5) a bit questionable, to say the least. I gess they have a bit of ID issues over there in Munich.

  • @Christian_2511
    @Christian_2511 5 місяців тому

    I think the interior of this particular one looks better than that 520i which you tested previously.

  • @BluevesPL
    @BluevesPL 5 місяців тому +4

    G30 LCI looks 150k more expensive than that lol

  • @DimitarAngelkov
    @DimitarAngelkov 5 місяців тому

    Totally agree with Max. I am not electric cars fan either. 1-2h waste of time to cover 200-300 in the winter just doesn't work

  • @JustMe-um7sr
    @JustMe-um7sr 5 місяців тому +2

    I agree with you 1000% on your opinion of EV's. I'll keep my gas guzzler Z06 as long as I can.

  • @Knezicdex
    @Knezicdex 5 місяців тому +2

    I also have a feeling that since some time now, bmw is designing cars for the chinese market...
    Agree with you on all points...

  • @aedgar
    @aedgar 5 місяців тому

    One of the best reviews imo on this channel, ironically. It shows the practical and real world drawbacks and limitations of EV's from an enthusiast's perspective, not the cherry picked and meaningless statistics and claims that manufacturers and other "reviews" make.

    • @myles6235
      @myles6235 5 місяців тому +1

      Typically enthusiasts know you need to precondition your battery before charging in freezing temperatures. Enthusiasts don't care about real world drawbacks and limitations. No one who drives a Miata is losing sleep at night over the fact that they can't carry 4 people, they say "good, I don't want to give everyone rides all the time". What the average consumer considers a drawback or limitation, the enthusiast welcomes with open arms. That is what it means to be an enthusiast. You're just not an EV enthusiast. Which is totally fine, it's not for everyone.

    • @aedgar
      @aedgar 5 місяців тому

      @@myles6235 The drawbacks and limitations like having the rated power only at full charge *are* what prevent EV's from being enthusiast vehicles. The manufacturers aren't going to advertise or disclose all of those real world nuances, and neither are the reviews made by casuals for other casuals. If you're going to buy an EV as an enthusiast, then you want to watch a review of it made by an enthusiast, where you will see all the shortcomings.

    • @myles6235
      @myles6235 5 місяців тому +1

      @@aedgar Of course. Some EVs are better than others with that. BMW's IX is capable of full power launches from as little as 8% state of charge. My Model 3 Performance loses power beginning at around 50%, but dropping from 580 to 490 horsepower isn't really much of a downside. The car is already massively overpowered as it is. Out of spec reviews on youtube makes the most enthusiast centered EV content out there and he gets really in depth.

  • @NAMBUGMAN
    @NAMBUGMAN 5 місяців тому +9

    That range issue is exactly what I experienced in my Model 3P in Minnesota. It's a total shitshow in anything but California. It's extremely frustrating especially when you go to work, let your car get cold, and magically $10 of range just disappears before you even go to lunch.

  • @bommibum1234
    @bommibum1234 5 місяців тому +4

    I prefer the E39 M5

  • @julisx1766
    @julisx1766 5 місяців тому +1

    I got the g31 lci as 530d and absolutely love it ❤ In 1 year lease is over and im completely lost what to choose next. Might end up buying an e34 540i back to the roots... 😂

    • @derkanaura
      @derkanaura 5 місяців тому

      that car is going to be expensive bcs of mechanics but its the one of the best bmw series

  • @KubiIay
    @KubiIay 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the honest review. Indeed, the electric setup is not practical for most individuals. It is designed for people who lead a basic lifestyle, residing, working, socializing, or essentially spending their entire lives in the same city or area. While there is a constant push for electric cars, I hope we can preserve Internal Combustion Engines (ICE) by transitioning to synthetic fuels and/or hydrogen-powered ICE. If electric vehicles (EVs) are the future, then the industry needs to address the range issue and charging speeds. Until these challenges are resolved: ICE it is.

  • @francoisdequenne6204
    @francoisdequenne6204 5 місяців тому +1

    The drivetrain seems good, so the 550e could be a good pick

  • @dnzry2218
    @dnzry2218 5 місяців тому +1

    I agree with everything you said, great review! The speed limit though is not BMW’s fault, new European regulations…

  • @Billywoo12
    @Billywoo12 5 місяців тому

    “I’m on a roller coaster and I’m not 8” - 😂

  • @patrickvalkering6870
    @patrickvalkering6870 4 місяці тому

    Het POV-beeld is je handelsmerk maar het maakt me soms een beetje ziek🙃. Verder een prima review! Bedankt👍

  • @dark_noone9287
    @dark_noone9287 5 місяців тому +2

    Manufacturers don't listen to customers at all. Haptic buttons, digital climat control, futuristic (ugly led bar) interiors. I just don't get it. I understand that there are price limitations on some of those stuff or restrictions given by government but a lot of those things could be easily fixed. I don't think that actual development is an optimal business strategy xd

  • @GoldandAstro
    @GoldandAstro 5 місяців тому

    Absolutely agree

  • @SimJoy
    @SimJoy 5 місяців тому +1

    @AutoTopNL perhaps a comparison video of G30 and G60 in detail will be nice, to show all the cut corners at the outside and inside... I feel also the frustration but I suppose I have to switch to another brand now.

  • @Hisahiro1974
    @Hisahiro1974 5 місяців тому +2

    It still is a 5 series, but what they did to the interior is ??? We have a G30 at home. I’m refreshing this car and enjoying it !!!

  • @vdsans1861
    @vdsans1861 5 місяців тому

    w AutoTopNL for being absolutely unbiased

  • @MrCaly000
    @MrCaly000 5 місяців тому +1

    Really happy that you guys really say what is on your mind and no you are not being too harsh you are just saying how things really are, this new 5 Series is a disappointment !

  • @emanuelbief7088
    @emanuelbief7088 5 місяців тому

    We need another Transporter movie with these cars

  • @Luminated67
    @Luminated67 3 місяці тому

    I had the F90 M5 Comp and on a full tank you struggled to get more than 260-270 miles from it, the i5M60 will be something similar but where they differ is one you can charge nightly at home and the other you go out of your way to fill it up. So I don’t get that complaint at all.
    It’s almost as quick as the M5 was in real world conditions, maybe quicker, just not on the autobahn. But it’s not an M5 replacement because that’s coming and no doubt it will cost significantly more than this and I doubt it will be any lighter.
    Petrol heads hate EVs but for real world daily driving they are far superior and this is someone who use to own that M5.

  • @PrinceBarin77
    @PrinceBarin77 5 місяців тому +8

    Ugh. Probably helping prop up the value of my F90 though.

  • @TK-lr8tz
    @TK-lr8tz 5 місяців тому +8

    Finally an honest review on this EV nonsense. If you want an EV, you are probably someone who microwaves their burgers vs grilling them…

  • @madpistol
    @madpistol 5 місяців тому +1

    This is the biggest issue with Electric cars. They just don't perform in the cold. Gas cars perform just fine. Seeing these videos makes me want to keep my M440i GC for a very long time; I'm afraid to get something different.

    • @Receptor91
      @Receptor91 5 місяців тому +1

      ? Electric cars perform right after the start while ICE need 20 minutes to get warm ….

  • @mohammadremeity5884
    @mohammadremeity5884 5 місяців тому

    This thing shouldn't deserve the M/5 series platform I think that's a descraise way ending an Iconic Legend....

  • @ChronoHavoc
    @ChronoHavoc 5 місяців тому

    in the G30 series, the gate let flashes red only when the engine is on and the gate is open. Here, maybe when its in drive

  • @andrealocatelli5637
    @andrealocatelli5637 5 місяців тому +8

    Thank you Max for this great and honest review. No, you are not too harsch. The new i5 and i7 are ill-conceived. Super heavy and large, they completely miss to fulfill the needs of European drivers. Most importantly, these cars don't make any sense economically. Why spending 125 k€ on an i5 m60, when one has to drive 125 km/h on the motorway and stop every 250 km to get some juice? Only a stupid can waste huge money in this way. Here in Italy, i7s are already offered with huge discounts, i've seen more than 60k€ off a 155k€ car, meaning that dealers can not sell them at all (design doesn't help too). The same will happen with i5s. EU politics is to be blamed, but bmw managers didn't do better. Instead of taking the road of the i8, light and efficient, they choose bulky, fat and overdesigned. Here's the result! So sorry for this.

    • @MrLtybul
      @MrLtybul 5 місяців тому

      Companies like BMW, Mercedes, Stellantis had a whole lot of time to knock-out stupid ICE ban ideas from EU legislators, who are so blind that they will derail whole moto industry in EU. Now everyone suffers. Banning ICE cars and whole de-motorisation movement pushed by left/green is a valid case for me to leave EU.

    • @senoow4215
      @senoow4215 5 місяців тому

      They drop the prices bc they already were overpriced with future discounts in mind lol, this car is worth 80k at best for that range and perfomance, 140k should be illegal lol

  • @sefrasus7360
    @sefrasus7360 4 місяці тому

    Haha. On the i4, they removed the side covers under the bonnet from a certain production date on. Steering wheel absorber will lose its leather lining later this year. I can see the i5 is already missing both. ;)

  • @Sveniii.
    @Sveniii. 5 місяців тому +2

    I agree with almost everything you said in the video. However, i would argue that the stated low range is due to your driving style. Just with all BMWs nowadays, the estimated range adapts according to e.g. driving style, temperature and so on. And of course if you drive it really sporty and drive fast on the Autobahn there is less range then „normal“ driving. Of course it may not reach the claimed wltp range but for sure more then you showed in the video. Otherwise great video!

    • @vlad-marincalota6819
      @vlad-marincalota6819 4 місяці тому +1

      I can trash my G30 530d and from a consumption on external roads of 7.5l / 100km it goes to at max 11l / 100km. Noted, driving from 130km / h to 200+ / 250km/ h runs. So yeah, trash it how you want and the range won`t drop that drasticlly.

  • @jonastindberg3357
    @jonastindberg3357 4 місяці тому +1

    Great review that says it all! Agree 100%, EVs simply aren’t there yet! I sold my Taycan after only 6 months, back in a nice Panamera again 😀

    • @sstetsiv
      @sstetsiv 4 місяці тому +1

      what model of taycan and what model of panamera?

  • @wbwright79
    @wbwright79 5 місяців тому

    so that is actually the rear end they went with? i wonder what else can be done with that console. does it come from the factory with Pac Man and Space Invaders installed perhaps?

  • @heinzrotzoll2237
    @heinzrotzoll2237 3 місяці тому

    Exzellent test drive. You're right, performance and electricity doesn't really match.

  • @Tom-vt4pw
    @Tom-vt4pw 3 місяці тому

    You dont need big breaks to slow it down. its more a cosmetic thing. You only need it when you race and break very very often.