Bigger cells becoming the new norm? Will one day everything connect to an app? Get one here - bit.ly/3z77PLy *full 12V test of all the power stations to follow.
I have an older lifepo4 energizer power station only has a 144wh battery and a 240 watt inverter and claims to do just 8amps out of the dc. I've found that I can power up a 5kw diesel heater when the battery is fully charged and not when less than about 60 percent. These smaller batteries might be able to hold a higher voltage if you test them fully charged. Thanks for these videos.
Thanks for your video. Since the purchase of the EB3A I´ve been using the unit in intensive mode 40 times. One charge a day in stardard mode from the wall socket and discharge along the day in different appliances (washing machine (cold programm), laptop, mobiles charging, home lightning,...) and I´ve noticed that it is lasting longer to charge from 0% to 100% from the first day. And I guess one day will be time to change the battery pack. Is it really difficult to build a battery pack for replacement with its BMS as seen in your video? Do we need to use the same BMS?
Your cable from the heater may be too small for the length, and you are suffering voltage drop/sag along that supply for the heater. Try shortening or using a larger gauge cable. My friend had this issue with his and this I found was the problem
I'm going to do a whole video seeing which power stations can run different diesel heaters. Charge level might also play a role in whether they light or not. :)
I had to fix one of these for a lady - solar input had a Cold solder that broke where connected to board - I made solder joint completely around connector - this solar input connector / board looks to be common between some brands and is not a sturdy enough in use - over all unit looks well made
Hello. Would you be able to expand its capacity by extra external battery? Say 12v 24V. Cracking break down on stuff.. I do like taking things apart but it's normally to sort them.😁 stay safe 🏴
I'm surprised you were unable to power the diesel heater. I have the EB3a and it works perfectly powering my 5kw diesel heater. Ran for 12 hours from full charge with 45% charge remaining.
And that's why I want to test various portable heaters with the power stations. As the Jackery powered the same heater that the EcoFlow and Bluetti couldn't. State of charge may also play a factor in this.
@David McLuckie Your cable from the heater may be too small for the length, and you are suffering voltage drop/sag along that supply cable for the heater. Try shortening or using a larger gauge cable. My friend had this issue with his, and this I found was the problem
By mistake I plugged in a big solar panel, exceeding 28vdc and the mppt regulator burned out. Any suggestions on repair or spare parts? Would greatly appreciate any help.
It would be nice if they could lengthen the screen time linger through the firmware update. I just bought one of these on an Amazon 4th of July sale (US) for $198US. Not bad. Nice to get a look at the guts of the unit.
It's something I've been thinking about. I need a test that I can set up and leave, but have the results waiting for me. I'm very open to suggestions. Something like a 200W load and some kind of time measuring device.
Thinking of getting a power bank to mainly run the diesel heater 5kw , would the jackery 240w (small one )work just fine ,or is it worth going one more level up in the jackery range ?
I just made a video on my channel of one of these running and window ac unit in my RV and then have 6 golf cart batteries and inverter plugged into rv and BLUETTI plugged into outlet in rv charging at same time. So it ended up only taking 200 watts from lead acid bank so I will be able run ac all night.
Your opinion is greatly appreciated an respected in which ever you recomend I just seen alot of people buying the maxspeedrod all in one diesel heater if you thunk I should purchase something else please advise me in the best fir alot of usage an cheapness 749.00 a month to live on dint allow a man any room for making mistakes on purchasing stuff
I have the all in one, and it works great, but don't expect 5kw out of it, I'll say more like 3.5 at max, I've run mine in the basement, but when it's get really cold, it won't be enough for my needs... And if you try to adjust the fuel ratio to bring up the heat, you gain little, but burn alot more diesel.. I turn it up until I see some smoke, and then dial it back a little to get it to run as hot as possible, but not soot...
The maxpeedingrods all-in-one (that one - www.maxpeedingrods.co.uk/product/1-5kw-diesel-air-heater-with-moblie-control-for-motorhomes-for-campervans-for-travel-trailers.html?search=diesel%20heater) uses the nice controller that can connect to your phone. Also if you use the code 'mcluckie' at the checkout it should take 10% off.
Nice to see that has earth pass through, North America with US style plug don’t have that, just a plastic hole we’re the ground pin supposed to be. The yellow plugs inside are xt60 connector, common in rc hobby world
Great video! I purchased one of these on Prime Days (Amazon) and would love to use this for portable ham radio ops, but the limit to 10 amps DC also would limit my TX power. While you were in there did you see anywhere to tap off to get 12v but have a greater than 10 amp service? I'd rather not have to drag my 30 amp power supply to run the Yaesu as that wouldn't be very portable. 😉
You could try tapping of the batteries before they go into the inverter. But this would still be at battery voltage and would need to be stepped down to your 12V
I have a sort of knock off unit which beeps and beeps every time there is a high power demand like my fridge turning on... It's ok with the diesel heater. I opened up the unit but as I am a civil engineer not an electrical one. I don't know which part to disable or what it looks like any assistance would be greatly appreciated Cheers Dave
Chances are there will be a piezo buzzer somewhere. Should look like this - www.google.co.uk/search?q=piezo+buzzer&newwindow=1&sxsrf=ALiCzsYFvxF07ZjEcL4GuFXxSXttK0_5TQ:1670004032325&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjS4_rowdv7AhWQTcAKHaeyDwcQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=3128&bih=1138&dpr=1.1#imgrc=Div0rOTwpU-6OM They come in a variety of sizes.
13:52 any idea if that battery pack with BMS salvaged from broken unit will work without that extra com cable or whatever it is connected with a different MPPT controller?
Unlikely. The connection with the rest of the system tells that particular BMS to turn the output on/off etc. But it would be fairly easy to just remove that board and solder on a seperate BMS.
Love your power station teardown videos. Can you do a Ctechi gt200 please.. they're currently in stock and on offer on Ctechi's official ebay store.. thanks
What's your opinion on solor panel fir a van all I have is 4 big deep cycle marina batteries hooked to my battery under the hood which is fed by a 105 amp alternator an I'm running a 6000 peak 3000 continues traveler brand power inverter I have a mini fridge with freezer microwave a 32 in snsrt tv an the diesel heater an a string of 12 volt led lights tgsts all I'm powering off the 4 batteries in back of van it stsy abone 12.8 volts whennout in rosd 5 to 7 days as ling as I crank up engine ince or twice a day fir about 30 min so I was thinking solor would keep batteries topped off an engine running when driving I'd keep a fully charged battery bank my problem is I've never had any dealings wth solor so I hsvr no idea whst size panels I'd need 109 watt or more?? Whst should I buy in size do you recommend there fairly cheap in the states
I'd put as many solar panels on as you can fit. How often does your van move? I ask this as I'd also mount the panels on the adjustable bases so they can be angled up to point at the sun.
The EB3A app is very basic, could do with more features like keeping the display illuminated etc. Hopefully they will add more features in the updates. Also WiFi.
I wonder if the space around the battery's is for air insulation. I've had mine in the winter with no heat and been scared they would die from the cold. Van life
The cold doesn't kill them but depending on the BMS it'll either refuse to charge until they are warmer or it'll charge at a much slower rate until the batteries heat up.
I'm surprised it's 24v inside there. With those cells if they had run the batteries in 2p4s and everything based off 12v DC, I bet the diesel heater test would have worked better.
I have the EB3A and it does what its suppose to do. But If they made the EB3A with lets say 700 watts it would be little more useful or one that can take a supplemental battery like the Ecoflow River. That is a great idea for smaller capacity solar generators such as the EB3A.
UK plug design may be awkward for its cable out design but it does prevent lazy people from unplugging appliances by just tugging on the cable and putting stress on wire contacts. Up there for thinking on that one!
@@DavidMcLuckie Whilst you had the unit dismantled, did you notice any restrictions to remove and rotate the 240v output socket 90 degrees anticlockwise.
There's an app for nearly everything, won't be long before we have an app for our toileting, needing to push a button to open the bay doors, once we've watched a series of ads, or paid extra to skip them, of course... :P
You have only %48 battery level and trying to power up on Chinese heather… sadly , the heather didn’t work it. Because power supply has not power enough. I ll buy it definitely. Thank you for your video.
Hi David. Firstly; I have a apologies to you about ; I didn’t believe 600w power station has not handle a diesel heather. I was very confused it. Secondly; I didn’t think , power supply will come very bad power for 12v DC… this is worst. Finally; I have apologize to you again. I love to watch your videos. If anyone want to buy a power station. Please don’t buy Eb3a . Don’t buy for diesel heather. Buy different power station , like jackery or different brand one. Thank you for video and reviews again.
You have to use the DC barrel plug and regulate the voltage and amperage to what it indicates for the MPPT charge regulator in the unit. I've seen DIY lithium ion add on battery packs, I'd prefer a LiFePo4 instead of a Li-on battery pack for a back-up. For the solar then you have to have a MPPT solar charge regulator to run your solar to the battery pack to keep the whole thing charged.
But holy crap, the % went down as a rusty ship on the ocean 😵 Nothing to use for heavy loads... I'll stick to my gasoline generator a few years longer 😅
like i said in my comment above about the Ecoflow River; you can add a supplementary batter to double its capacity. A unit like that should have all the power you need. It is hard to be those Gasoline engine Generators .
& I must have added I only bought an eb3a today it's on back order with the company so possible I could get a refund but others are saying it works with theirs ? Start it on lower power ? I dunno
Hey David I hope all is well with you I text you a few dsys ago about a happybuy.brand 2kw diesel heater I was having major issues iut of you responded an I wint to thank you for that well since then I've replaced everything then foing a crack in the body of heater so it must of bern fuvking more air tgsn needed an couldnt light,, My next question is you have tested the MAxspeedrod diesel heater I have a chance to purchase a 5kw all in one fir 148.00 us dollars I only get 749.09 a month on disability so a purchase of that amount I have to be sure of whst I'm getting I need your opinion it's going in a 92 Chevy astro van do you recommend the maxsoeedrod heaters for a all winter ling use I live full time in my van so it will be used every night an off at dsy every night I noticed they hsve balanced fans an alot of upgrades so would it be a goid purchase fir me or is there another brand of diesel heater you recommend for alot of usage I gotta have one tgats going to stand up to a slk winter usage at night every night I value your opinion otherwise I wouldn't be asking you I've sat an binge watched every video you have put out except the one on car stereos its next lol please David gibe me ur best opinion an do u recommend the all in one it's going between the driver and passenger seat or do u recommend the floor mount with external fuel tank
I have an older lifepo4 energizer power station only has a 144wh battery and a 240 watt inverter and claims to do just 8amps out of the dc. I've found that I can power up a 5kw diesel heater when the battery is fully charged and not when less than about 60 percent. These smaller batteries might be able to hold a higher voltage if you test them fully charged. Thanks for these videos.
That's an excellent test scenario. Thank you.
I have been waiting for this..
Thanks for your video. Since the purchase of the EB3A I´ve been using the unit in intensive mode 40 times. One charge a day in stardard mode from the wall socket and discharge along the day in different appliances (washing machine (cold programm), laptop, mobiles charging, home lightning,...) and I´ve noticed that it is lasting longer to charge from 0% to 100% from the first day. And I guess one day will be time to change the battery pack.
Is it really difficult to build a battery pack for replacement with its BMS as seen in your video? Do we need to use the same BMS?
Your cable from the heater may be too small for the length, and you are suffering voltage drop/sag along that supply for the heater. Try shortening or using a larger gauge cable. My friend had this issue with his and this I found was the problem
I just grabbed one of these on an Amazon return auction brand new in box! Hooked it up to my stealth camper setup in the back of my pickup truck.
Surprisingly, mine runs my diesel heater just fine!
I'm going to do a whole video seeing which power stations can run different diesel heaters. Charge level might also play a role in whether they light or not. :)
I had to fix one of these for a lady - solar input had a Cold solder that broke where connected to board - I made solder joint completely around connector -
this solar input connector / board looks to be common between some brands and is not a sturdy enough in use - over all unit looks well made
Hello.
Would you be able to expand its capacity by extra external battery? Say 12v 24V. Cracking break down on stuff.. I do like taking things apart but it's normally to sort them.😁 stay safe 🏴
I'm surprised you were unable to power the diesel heater. I have the EB3a and it works perfectly powering my 5kw diesel heater. Ran for 12 hours from full charge with 45% charge remaining.
And that's why I want to test various portable heaters with the power stations. As the Jackery powered the same heater that the EcoFlow and Bluetti couldn't. State of charge may also play a factor in this.
@David McLuckie Your cable from the heater may be too small for the length, and you are suffering voltage drop/sag along that supply cable for the heater. Try shortening or using a larger gauge cable. My friend had this issue with his, and this I found was the problem
@@DeltaCmndrElitethanks for sharing this nugget of wisdom.
So is there something that could sit between a power pack and a diesel heater, to give it a boost while the heater needs it's glow plug on?
By mistake I plugged in a big solar panel, exceeding 28vdc and the mppt regulator burned out. Any suggestions on repair or spare parts? Would greatly appreciate any help.
It would be nice if they could lengthen the screen time linger through the firmware update. I just bought one of these on an Amazon 4th of July sale (US) for $198US. Not bad. Nice to get a look at the guts of the unit.
Nice Video!
Do you have an idea where to locate the Bluetooth-Module?
I would like to deactivate it.
Hi, would you please consider doing capacity checks on the portable power stations?
It's something I've been thinking about. I need a test that I can set up and leave, but have the results waiting for me. I'm very open to suggestions. Something like a 200W load and some kind of time measuring device.
brilliant video and it answer my question about the Earth
Thinking of getting a power bank to mainly run the diesel heater 5kw , would the jackery 240w (small one )work just fine ,or is it worth going one more level up in the jackery range ?
The bigger you go the longer you can run for. Or the longer you can go before needing to recharge the Jackery.
I just made a video on my channel of one of these running and window ac unit in my RV and then have 6 golf cart batteries and inverter plugged into rv and BLUETTI plugged into outlet in rv charging at same time. So it ended up only taking 200 watts from lead acid bank so I will be able run ac all night.
Your opinion is greatly appreciated an respected in which ever you recomend I just seen alot of people buying the maxspeedrod all in one diesel heater if you thunk I should purchase something else please advise me in the best fir alot of usage an cheapness 749.00 a month to live on dint allow a man any room for making mistakes on purchasing stuff
I have the all in one, and it works great, but don't expect 5kw out of it, I'll say more like 3.5 at max, I've run mine in the basement, but when it's get really cold, it won't be enough for my needs... And if you try to adjust the fuel ratio to bring up the heat, you gain little, but burn alot more diesel.. I turn it up until I see some smoke, and then dial it back a little to get it to run as hot as possible, but not soot...
The maxpeedingrods all-in-one (that one - www.maxpeedingrods.co.uk/product/1-5kw-diesel-air-heater-with-moblie-control-for-motorhomes-for-campervans-for-travel-trailers.html?search=diesel%20heater) uses the nice controller that can connect to your phone. Also if you use the code 'mcluckie' at the checkout it should take 10% off.
I reckon that socket on the side of the battery management board is a charging balance socket.
do you think i shoudl run a diesel heater in my RX7 instead of heater matrix? lol
Hi! Please tell us about the AC input of the American version for 110V. Does the power supply support 220V voltage input?
I don't have an American version.
No, 110v for the AC plug input and 12v-28v for the DC plug input.
Nice to see that has earth pass through, North America with US style plug don’t have that, just a plastic hole we’re the ground pin supposed to be.
The yellow plugs inside are xt60 connector, common in rc hobby world
Great video! I purchased one of these on Prime Days (Amazon) and would love to use this for portable ham radio ops, but the limit to 10 amps DC also would limit my TX power. While you were in there did you see anywhere to tap off to get 12v but have a greater than 10 amp service? I'd rather not have to drag my 30 amp power supply to run the Yaesu as that wouldn't be very portable. 😉
You could try tapping of the batteries before they go into the inverter. But this would still be at battery voltage and would need to be stepped down to your 12V
I have a sort of knock off unit which beeps and beeps every time there is a high power demand like my fridge turning on...
It's ok with the diesel heater.
I opened up the unit but as I am a civil engineer not an electrical one.
I don't know which part to disable or what it looks like any assistance would be greatly appreciated
Cheers Dave
Chances are there will be a piezo buzzer somewhere. Should look like this - www.google.co.uk/search?q=piezo+buzzer&newwindow=1&sxsrf=ALiCzsYFvxF07ZjEcL4GuFXxSXttK0_5TQ:1670004032325&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjS4_rowdv7AhWQTcAKHaeyDwcQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=3128&bih=1138&dpr=1.1#imgrc=Div0rOTwpU-6OM
They come in a variety of sizes.
How to turn off BT? Is there BT antena or connector?
What is the voltage on the cells alone
13:52 any idea if that battery pack with BMS salvaged from broken unit will work without that extra com cable or whatever it is connected with a different MPPT controller?
Unlikely. The connection with the rest of the system tells that particular BMS to turn the output on/off etc. But it would be fairly easy to just remove that board and solder on a seperate BMS.
Love your power station teardown videos. Can you do a Ctechi gt200 please.. they're currently in stock and on offer on Ctechi's official ebay store.. thanks
Watts ÷ volts = amps so power lift will lower the voltage to provide the current needed for non voltage sensitive items
What's your opinion on solor panel fir a van all I have is 4 big deep cycle marina batteries hooked to my battery under the hood which is fed by a 105 amp alternator an I'm running a 6000 peak 3000 continues traveler brand power inverter I have a mini fridge with freezer microwave a 32 in snsrt tv an the diesel heater an a string of 12 volt led lights tgsts all I'm powering off the 4 batteries in back of van it stsy abone 12.8 volts whennout in rosd 5 to 7 days as ling as I crank up engine ince or twice a day fir about 30 min so I was thinking solor would keep batteries topped off an engine running when driving I'd keep a fully charged battery bank my problem is I've never had any dealings wth solor so I hsvr no idea whst size panels I'd need 109 watt or more?? Whst should I buy in size do you recommend there fairly cheap in the states
I'd put as many solar panels on as you can fit. How often does your van move? I ask this as I'd also mount the panels on the adjustable bases so they can be angled up to point at the sun.
Hey David, is there a hack to keep the EB3As display to stay on longer than by the factory ? Its so annoying.
The EB3A app is very basic, could do with more features like keeping the display illuminated etc. Hopefully they will add more features in the updates. Also WiFi.
@@ralphwilmot6351 how do you keep the display illuminated thru the app? Ive never saw that mode on my App?
I wonder if the space around the battery's is for air insulation. I've had mine in the winter with no heat and been scared they would die from the cold. Van life
The cold doesn't kill them but depending on the BMS it'll either refuse to charge until they are warmer or it'll charge at a much slower rate until the batteries heat up.
I'm surprised it's 24v inside there. With those cells if they had run the batteries in 2p4s and everything based off 12v DC, I bet the diesel heater test would have worked better.
I have the EB3A and it does what its suppose to do. But If they made the EB3A with lets say 700 watts it would be little more useful or one that can take a supplemental battery like the Ecoflow River. That is a great idea for smaller capacity solar generators such as the EB3A.
Bigger inverters get my vote. Add on batteries would be good as well, but of course that would increase the price.
@@DavidMcLuckie for sure
@@mannyfragoza9652 I just posted video on my channel where I used my lead acid batteries to charge this while running my 4000 btu window ac
@@supremeautomotive6749 very interesting ill have a look
You can add on battery to the EB3A through the solar charging port, the 8mm jack. I recharge mine regularly this way from larger batteries.
Will it run the heater converting through the ac output?
Yes, no problem.
Pink towel, you sure? great strip down David, 😀
Formerly pink. :)
UK plug design may be awkward for its cable out design but it does prevent lazy people from unplugging appliances by just tugging on the cable and putting stress on wire contacts. Up there for thinking on that one!
I'm sure I've watched videos on people doing that exact test. :)
Lazy Europeans
@@DavidMcLuckie Whilst you had the unit dismantled, did you notice any restrictions
to remove and rotate the 240v output socket 90 degrees anticlockwise.
is it possible to more batteries inside eb3a ? even if i dont close it its ok
You could put another set of batteries in parallel as long as it is the same voltage and has its own BMS.
@@DavidMcLuckie wow thankyou so much for the idea
There's an app for nearly everything, won't be long before we have an app for our toileting, needing to push a button to open the bay doors, once we've watched a series of ads, or paid extra to skip them, of course... :P
Don't give them ideas.
You have only %48 battery level and trying to power up on Chinese heather… sadly , the heather didn’t work it. Because power supply has not power enough. I ll buy it definitely. Thank you for your video.
Actually it wasn't that.
Hi David. Firstly; I have a apologies to you about ; I didn’t believe 600w power station has not handle a diesel heather. I was very confused it. Secondly; I didn’t think , power supply will come very bad power for 12v DC… this is worst.
Finally; I have apologize to you again. I love to watch your videos. If anyone want to buy a power station. Please don’t buy Eb3a . Don’t buy for diesel heather. Buy different power station , like jackery or different brand one. Thank you for video and reviews again.
It would have been better if the EB3A had an accessory port wherin I can connect an extra battery.
You have to use the DC barrel plug and regulate the voltage and amperage to what it indicates for the MPPT charge regulator in the unit. I've seen DIY lithium ion add on battery packs, I'd prefer a LiFePo4 instead of a Li-on battery pack for a back-up. For the solar then you have to have a MPPT solar charge regulator to run your solar to the battery pack to keep the whole thing charged.
I build custom power banks with 10,000 lumens led. I use Tesla 18650 3s15p battery pack @600 watt.
Sounds more like it is 1200 watt surge 600 watt continuous. Maybe one should read the destruction papers ?
It is. 600W still isn't enough for me. :)
@@DavidMcLuckie Yeah that isn't an awful lot. Better than the one I got though. Mine it only 200 watt continuous. Works good on my laptop.
But holy crap, the % went down as a rusty ship on the ocean 😵 Nothing to use for heavy loads... I'll stick to my gasoline generator a few years longer 😅
like i said in my comment above about the Ecoflow River; you can add a supplementary batter to double its capacity. A unit like that should have all the power you need. It is hard to be those Gasoline engine Generators .
Great I've just bought one to power a diesel heater 🙃 wtf do I do now I thought it would have done it
& I must have added I only bought an eb3a today it's on back order with the company so possible I could get a refund but others are saying it works with theirs ? Start it on lower power ? I dunno
It depends on the heater now I think. Some start under 10A some take nearer 12A. I'm going to do more testing.
tbh, i don't care for wireless charging, so i take that apart if i ever get it lol
The insides of the EB3A don't look good for me. It does have overheating issues.
hullllooooooo
Hey David I hope all is well with you I text you a few dsys ago about a happybuy.brand 2kw diesel heater I was having major issues iut of you responded an I wint to thank you for that well since then I've replaced everything then foing a crack in the body of heater so it must of bern fuvking more air tgsn needed an couldnt light,,
My next question is you have tested the MAxspeedrod diesel heater I have a chance to purchase a 5kw all in one fir 148.00 us dollars I only get 749.09 a month on disability so a purchase of that amount I have to be sure of whst I'm getting I need your opinion it's going in a 92 Chevy astro van do you recommend the maxsoeedrod heaters for a all winter ling use I live full time in my van so it will be used every night an off at dsy every night I noticed they hsve balanced fans an alot of upgrades so would it be a goid purchase fir me or is there another brand of diesel heater you recommend for alot of usage I gotta have one tgats going to stand up to a slk winter usage at night every night I value your opinion otherwise I wouldn't be asking you I've sat an binge watched every video you have put out except the one on car stereos its next lol please David gibe me ur best opinion an do u recommend the all in one it's going between the driver and passenger seat or do u recommend the floor mount with external fuel tank