I just got one of the new chests pack kits for Christmas. I had used the the Umpqua 1200 cu.in. sling pack for about 3 years and then tried the Fish Pond Summit last year. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. Being a Diabetic, I like to have the ability to carry extra food and supplies for that. The Umpqua sling pack was real good for that and the Fish Pond was limited as far as a long day went. I saw Lance using the chest pack in a couple of videos and it seemed like it would work even better for me. With the backpack and chest pack, I have enough room for what I need and it keeps higher off the water. Only used it twice but am impressed with it. You didn't mention the front bottom tippet holder that comes with it. Like on the old sling pack, it is an elastic/bungee cord with a plastic clip/lock so you can slide the cord through your tippet spools and clip the cord to the "lock". I found that taking a round plastic pen and removing the tip and ink reservoir then cutting it to size and sliding the cord through that really makes a nice smooth turning tippet holder. What C&F fly box are you two using and are you adding Velcro to the back of it?
This video is very helpful, Lance and Cheech really go into detail on these packs, i had a waist pack and just hated it. I ended up using it like a sling pack. Ordered a ZS2 and it's the best tackle organizer out performing a few vests i owned over the years. Great job guys it definitely made my decision easy.
I have the zs2 and when the middle pocket is full, the front pocket is pretty much useless. You may be able to fit an extra spool of tippet, maybe two and some leaders but that’s about it. The fishpond cross current is a way better setup up front. However, the Molly system in the rear for the water bottle holder makes this pack better. I like the design theory for the himostats on this pack to keep them tucked out of the way, but it’s somewhat cumbersome manipulating behind the Molly strap. I’ve tried everything (chest, hip, sling, vest, and backpack) and while this is close, the holy grail is still out there imo
Thanks for the video. So happy to see you guys using a release tool! Keep 'em in the water! 30 seconds out of water, trout mortality goes up 38%. 60 seconds out, it goes up to 60%! You don't need no stinkin' pictures. Another good one is the Live Wire.
I think the net holder in the back is much better than the net hanging from a zinger and banging again your leg or Back while you hike. Good packs though.
I purposely got a small chest-pack to force me to minimize what I carry. Found I was wasting too much fishing time looking through all the fly boxes then 90% of the time I would chose something from my "favorites box" anyway LOL! Having a "favorites box" for each species helps me keep things simple - don't need to carry pike streamers to the trout creeks. Might be an interesting video to see what flies you guys carry and what water you use them in.
Just bought that ORVIS Guide Sling and it's my FIRST purchase from that company. Their forcep pocket is absolutely horrible to try and sneak it up in this pocket and HOPE you grab some sewn in fabric up behind the pocket. Not a cool design! I like the attachment on this pack a lot better. More secure and easier to find!
I like the way the new ZS2 allows u to mount a Gopro to the front molle. Also lunch in the back and 3 fly boxes up front. Lance should send me a few of those boxes tho👍 You guys should do a wuts in my 300 fly boxes video! Take care fellas✌
I got one of these. The problem is that the folks at Umpqua apparently don't know how a mollie system works. The tab should be long enough to weave in and out of multiple slits. They made it just long enough to fit through only one slit.
Cheech or Lance, I have the older style like Lance is wearing, is the new style backpack portion still the same size, or is it smaller capacity wise? I use the backpack area for my drinks and food while hiking and fishing and don't want to lose the space if I upgrade. Thanks for the review!
I ended up stealing your idea of adding a C&F box in place of the foam. I used some self adhesive Velcro to get a better connection than just the pin on the fly box.
This was helpful, how about a video on pairing down your fly selection, the more I tie the more I carry and my sling is getting heavy; I'm not getting younger. Do you have a general # of each fly to carry? Just curious, I do swap out seasonal flys but still seem to need help, I’m fishing the Delaware system & tribs mostly. Thx
I'm done with my sling...I want a work station nice and close right in front of me. I was looking at the Fishponds with the flip down work station but this Umpqua looks like the one to get. How are you attaching those C&F boxes on this, just with Velcro? On a side note, I'm surprised at how many chest packs don't have closeable flip down workstations.
Cheech, I noticed you have the net retractor attached to the upper webbing-style loop in back, and not to the plastic triangular clip that dangles further down. I tried the plastic one, but my net hung too low, almost behind my thighs and knees. A no-go. Then I discovered that higher loop. Any use for that plastic clip? I assume it's for a net, but it's so low, I'm not sure how it's supposed to work. Also, a separate thing -- you know those spring-loaded, plastic headphone clips? You have one attached to your shirt in the video, for the mic. I've found that they can be fixed securely on the zipper pull cords. I only use one of the dual zippers on each pocket to open and close it (i.e., when the pockets are closed, all zipper pulls are near my left shoulder, like yours are). So for the two pull cords I don't use, I've attached one of those headphone cord clips on each, and they're great as a third hand (or fourth hand, when my mouth is already holding something!). The only thing is you have to find a clip with tight enough spring tension so things don't fall out of it. They're great for an indicator, a piece of tippet, or whatever. Thanks for this great video! And also for the my-shirt's-on-backwards pack flip. It hadn't occurred to me, so I was taking the whole pack off to access the back.
Which model C&F box are those? I have the new Umpqua chest pack. I usually slip a topper spool in one mesh pocket and a Tacky day pack in the other but those C&F look slick.
Had one and ended up hating it. Shoulder straps are not wide enough and un-padded. Plus, the front pack I found was just too large and could be a little thinner.
I tried a chest pack in the store today. It felt really close to my face even adjusted all the way out. Your thoughts please as a waist pack will get wet and I like the idea of the chest pack. Thank you.
One thing you did not talk about especially new overlook zs2 is the visibility you have when wading. My current fishpond concurrent pack I find it hard to see in front of me when wading. I should rephrase that I mean seeing my feet in front of me. How do you feel that rs2 pack fares as far as visibility
how do you guys keep from tripping over your feet when wet wading & rock hopping? i know that most of the videos you've shared have very shallow banks, but i haven't seen you guys bust it through some brush while blue lining with a chest pack. those lanyard rigs i've seen you all use seem more suited for those conditions.
also, curious what your fully loaded packs weigh? i've found that i tend to overstuff them with a bunch of extra gear, and they begin to fatigue on my shoulders on longer days.
I got one of these chest packs for Christmas this year but it doesn’t have the larger backpack, just the small mesh pack. Is the backpack something you can purchase separately?
I do wish I could remove the net holder on the back (of the new version). Seems a silly thing that they hard-wired it in there, since people have vastly different preferences with net carrying, and probably a minority will ever use that. Any ideas? Thanks again you guys for a great video.
We use a retractor without much hang up for the net holder. It’s actually a big deal among guides and other people that fish with a long handled net. I haven’t had any issues with it being there even though I don’t use it.
I attached a C&F box to the smaller Rock Creek chest pack. The foam patch has a nice design, it has wings on the side that tuck into 2 zero sweep pockets so that the Velcro won’t peel off if the corner is caught. It’s very well designed and secure. So in my case, I wanted to retain the velcro panel and attach it to the C&F box. I removed most of the foam with a razor blade and then epoxied it to the back of the C&F box. The box is locked in place with a solid Velcro connection now and the safety pin on the back is pinned as an added layer of security. Great set up.
How tall is Lance? Just curios as I’m sort of a hobbit at 5’5”. I also like to see my feet when boulder hopping in the slime but always eye the chest packs.
for boulder hopping it's hard to beat the lanyard & fanny pack style. you can still wear a backpack for non-fishing stuff like food and a jacket, leave it stashed on the beach while you're fishing.
@@patches152 Was thinking about that route but it has to be a waterproof fanny pack. I was to my chest where most taller people wade to their waste. Also what do you do with a net with a lanyard?
@@xoshooter I use the fishpond waterproof fanny pack and suspend my hand net sideways off of the pack, cheech demo'ed how he set up his net in their "how to carry a net" video or whatever they called it. Works well
Would love to know how you attached the c&f flybox to the overlook pack. Thanks!
I just got one of the new chests pack kits for Christmas. I had used the the Umpqua 1200 cu.in. sling pack for about 3 years and then tried the Fish Pond Summit last year. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. Being a Diabetic, I like to have the ability to carry extra food and supplies for that. The Umpqua sling pack was real good for that and the Fish Pond was limited as far as a long day went. I saw Lance using the chest pack in a couple of videos and it seemed like it would work even better for me. With the backpack and chest pack, I have enough room for what I need and it keeps higher off the water. Only used it twice but am impressed with it. You didn't mention the front bottom tippet holder that comes with it. Like on the old sling pack, it is an elastic/bungee cord with a plastic clip/lock so you can slide the cord through your tippet spools and clip the cord to the "lock". I found that taking a round plastic pen and removing the tip and ink reservoir then cutting it to size and sliding the cord through that really makes a nice smooth turning tippet holder. What C&F fly box are you two using and are you adding Velcro to the back of it?
Best presentation of the Overlook ZS2 500 Chest pack ever.
I'm feeling overloaded with 4 large fly boxes. I can't imagine carrying twenty like Lance.
This video is very helpful, Lance and Cheech really go into detail on these packs, i had a waist pack and just hated it. I ended up using it like a sling pack.
Ordered a ZS2 and it's the best tackle organizer out performing a few vests i owned over the years. Great job guys it definitely made my decision easy.
I tried the chest pack for a few years, I found I prefer to be able to see my feet (while rock hopping) over having quick access.
That's why they call it the "overlook." Ha ha...
This is a good point
Would you mind posting an updated version of this video to see how your setups have changed in the last 4 years? What'd you change and why?
Appreciate this video. I love seeing what you guys keep in the boat and or bring to the stream. I'd love to see more "on stream advice, tip and trips.
Excellent video. I'm always on the lookout on ways to store fly gear or fishing gear. Thanks.
bought this chest pack after seeing your review and i love it . works great .
Just picked one up and I love it for my kayak. Keeps everything at hand
Y'all are getting really good at product videos. There's a career in QVC if this whole fly fishing thing doesn't work out.
I have the zs2 and when the middle pocket is full, the front pocket is pretty much useless. You may be able to fit an extra spool of tippet, maybe two and some leaders but that’s about it. The fishpond cross current is a way better setup up front. However, the Molly system in the rear for the water bottle holder makes this pack better. I like the design theory for the himostats on this pack to keep them tucked out of the way, but it’s somewhat cumbersome manipulating behind the Molly strap. I’ve tried everything (chest, hip, sling, vest, and backpack) and while this is close, the holy grail is still out there imo
Thanks for the video. So happy to see you guys using a release tool! Keep 'em in the water! 30 seconds out of water, trout mortality goes up 38%. 60 seconds out, it goes up to 60%! You don't need no stinkin' pictures. Another good one is the Live Wire.
Lance’s backpack is like a clown car of fly boxes! 🤣🤣🤣
I think the net holder in the back is much better than the net hanging from a zinger and banging again your leg or
Back while you hike. Good packs though.
I purposely got a small chest-pack to force me to minimize what I carry. Found I was wasting too much fishing time looking through all the fly boxes then 90% of the time I would chose something from my "favorites box" anyway LOL! Having a "favorites box" for each species helps me keep things simple - don't need to carry pike streamers to the trout creeks. Might be an interesting video to see what flies you guys carry and what water you use them in.
You got any fly boxes for sale , I'm feeling like I gotta get another 10 or so to have half as many as Lance.
Just bought that ORVIS Guide Sling and it's my FIRST purchase from that company.
Their forcep pocket is absolutely horrible to try and sneak it up in this pocket and HOPE you grab some sewn in fabric up behind the pocket.
Not a cool design!
I like the attachment on this pack a lot better. More secure and easier to find!
I like the way the new ZS2 allows u to mount a Gopro to the front molle. Also lunch in the back and 3 fly boxes up front. Lance should send me a few of those boxes tho👍 You guys should do a wuts in my 300 fly boxes video! Take care fellas✌
I got one of these. The problem is that the folks at Umpqua apparently don't know how a mollie system works. The tab should be long enough to weave in and out of multiple slits. They made it just long enough to fit through only one slit.
@@austinelliott2798 I can get it to go through multiple… Maybe there was a batch with smaller latches
@@FlyFishFood Maybe so. I'm trying to remember if I bought it from Amazon or not. It might be a knock off.
Cheech or Lance, I have the older style like Lance is wearing, is the new style backpack portion still the same size, or is it smaller capacity wise? I use the backpack area for my drinks and food while hiking and fishing and don't want to lose the space if I upgrade. Thanks for the review!
I ended up stealing your idea of adding a C&F box in place of the foam. I used some self adhesive Velcro to get a better connection than just the pin on the fly box.
This was helpful, how about a video on pairing down your fly selection, the more I tie the more I carry and my sling is getting heavy; I'm not getting younger. Do you have a general # of each fly to carry? Just curious, I do swap out seasonal flys but still seem to need help, I’m fishing the Delaware system & tribs mostly. Thx
I'm done with my sling...I want a work station nice and close right in front of me. I was looking at the Fishponds with the flip down work station but this Umpqua looks like the one to get. How are you attaching those C&F boxes on this, just with Velcro? On a side note, I'm surprised at how many chest packs don't have closeable flip down workstations.
Cheech, I noticed you have the net retractor attached to the upper webbing-style loop in back, and not to the plastic triangular clip that dangles further down. I tried the plastic one, but my net hung too low, almost behind my thighs and knees. A no-go. Then I discovered that higher loop. Any use for that plastic clip? I assume it's for a net, but it's so low, I'm not sure how it's supposed to work.
Also, a separate thing -- you know those spring-loaded, plastic headphone clips? You have one attached to your shirt in the video, for the mic. I've found that they can be fixed securely on the zipper pull cords. I only use one of the dual zippers on each pocket to open and close it (i.e., when the pockets are closed, all zipper pulls are near my left shoulder, like yours are). So for the two pull cords I don't use, I've attached one of those headphone cord clips on each, and they're great as a third hand (or fourth hand, when my mouth is already holding something!). The only thing is you have to find a clip with tight enough spring tension so things don't fall out of it. They're great for an indicator, a piece of tippet, or whatever.
Thanks for this great video! And also for the my-shirt's-on-backwards pack flip. It hadn't occurred to me, so I was taking the whole pack off to access the back.
The plastic clip is good if you don’t use the gear keeper retractor. The gear keeper is just much longer than most.
Yeah I’ve found that the tippet spool holders are kinda dumb. I mean how often do you use more than one or two tippet sizes in a day of fishing
I think you guys need to carry more stuff and you need more boxes of flys
Which model C&F box are those? I have the new Umpqua chest pack. I usually slip a topper spool in one mesh pocket and a Tacky day pack in the other but those C&F look slick.
Shane Miller which c&f box is that??
Christian Wood - I wish I knew. They won’t tell me 😥
The link to the box is in the description of the video. I'm trying to figure out how they attach it to the pack - assuming it's velcro'd
christopher lampron - Thankyou! I missed that somehow in the description.
@christopher lampron One option is to cannibalize the fly patch that comes with the pack. Removing the rubber leaves a very good base for velcro.
Good stuff gentlemen!!!
Had one and ended up hating it. Shoulder straps are not wide enough and un-padded. Plus, the front pack I found was just too large and could be a little thinner.
What c&f boxes are those?
I tried a chest pack in the store today. It felt really close to my face even adjusted all the way out. Your thoughts please as a waist pack will get wet and I like the idea of the chest pack. Thank you.
One thing you did not talk about especially new overlook zs2 is the visibility you have when wading. My current fishpond concurrent pack I find it hard to see in front of me when wading. I should rephrase that I mean seeing my feet in front of me. How do you feel that rs2 pack fares as far as visibility
how do you guys keep from tripping over your feet when wet wading & rock hopping? i know that most of the videos you've shared have very shallow banks, but i haven't seen you guys bust it through some brush while blue lining with a chest pack. those lanyard rigs i've seen you all use seem more suited for those conditions.
also, curious what your fully loaded packs weigh? i've found that i tend to overstuff them with a bunch of extra gear, and they begin to fatigue on my shoulders on longer days.
I got one of these chest packs for Christmas this year but it doesn’t have the larger backpack, just the small mesh pack. Is the backpack something you can purchase separately?
Hey guys, will a single bugger beast jr fit in the main pocket?
Joe Healey I don’t think so.
Looks cool but all I need is a tool necklace and a small fly box in the pocket of my board shorts 😂
I do wish I could remove the net holder on the back (of the new version). Seems a silly thing that they hard-wired it in there, since people have vastly different preferences with net carrying, and probably a minority will ever use that. Any ideas? Thanks again you guys for a great video.
We use a retractor without much hang up for the net holder. It’s actually a big deal among guides and other people that fish with a long handled net. I haven’t had any issues with it being there even though I don’t use it.
Did you attach velcro strips to the back of the C&F box to attach it to the pack?
I know I did.
@@jan-olekland9580 so it's not a special box that fits in that place? It's just adapted?
Jordan Streun correct
I attached a C&F box to the smaller Rock Creek chest pack. The foam patch has a nice design, it has wings on the side that tuck into 2 zero sweep pockets so that the Velcro won’t peel off if the corner is caught. It’s very well designed and secure. So in my case, I wanted to retain the velcro panel and attach it to the C&F box. I removed most of the foam with a razor blade and then epoxied it to the back of the C&F box. The box is locked in place with a solid Velcro connection now and the safety pin on the back is pinned as an added layer of security. Great set up.
👍👍👍
How tall is Lance? Just curios as I’m sort of a hobbit at 5’5”. I also like to see my feet when boulder hopping in the slime but always eye the chest packs.
for boulder hopping it's hard to beat the lanyard & fanny pack style. you can still wear a backpack for non-fishing stuff like food and a jacket, leave it stashed on the beach while you're fishing.
@@patches152 Was thinking about that route but it has to be a waterproof fanny pack. I was to my chest where most taller people wade to their waste. Also what do you do with a net with a lanyard?
@@xoshooter I use the fishpond waterproof fanny pack and suspend my hand net sideways off of the pack, cheech demo'ed how he set up his net in their "how to carry a net" video or whatever they called it. Works well
You guys do videos in one state or go around?
Awesome!
Bras for bros. I dig it!
Cheech I understand that you still use an Ambi-Sling Zs as well. How do they compare? Is there a time you prefer one over the other?
Lance Lewis this pack is much more accessible than the sling. I still have the sling that I travel with sometimes.
Fly Fish Food Thanks. I’m a big guy too, so I’ll have to check it out.
Do you guys have difficulty seeing your feet when wading with these? That would be my concern.
Как заказать такие сумочки в Россию?
and no toilet paper? That needs a place
this comment is more relevant now than ever
Vest' are the work of the Devil! You aren't going to make it halfway, through a session, before you start feeling neck/shoulder pain.
Used chest packs. Don’t like them. Fishing tandem rigs top fly gets snagged in pack. Fish breaks off.
Very nice gear, even If, to me, you are using too much tackle to fishing.
Cool bags but you need to make room for two IPAs and a cigar
Dang! Fire the audio engineer!
Still prefer a vest to a pack...
Low energy.. better free.
🤮 so many fly boxes haha 😂😂 I know part of why we love it is the complexity but does anyone really need to carry TWENTY fly boxes .
Im pretty upset about it too. Thanks for sharing.