Patton got into A LOT of trouble for this. Eisenhower temporarily removed him from command, privately reprimanded Patton, and made him publicly apologize to the soldier.
@@straightpride442 ignoring the mental health of your soldiers does not make you a "man". Ignoring 100 years of studies (the first after WW1) that prove how she'll shock is a real thing is just stupid and counterproductive. This man should have been treated like the others.
That was the idea. Patton was trying to make the boy more afraid of HIM, than of the battlefield. As you guys said, it worked. Bob Knight and Woody Hayes did the same thing in sports.
@@kingkrool1935 He instigate discipline to the soldier imagine he let it slide then the whole army might do it too. Its war there is no time to tuck in to comfy blankets and have a time out. While his Brothers in arms die in battle he is there crying. That is why Gen. Patton is furious about it.
Everyone’s a badass until bullets start flying. Combat can bring out the best and the worst of all of us. Say what you will about Patton and leaders like him. In times of war, you’d rather have them than not.
To understand "shell shock" some soldiers in World War 1 were found dead after an artillery barrage dead without a mark on them. The intense concussion of the blast hat caused brain hemorrhaging. No wonder some cracked and went insane.
@Sabrina Dugan Foreign servicemen who were in their country as an occupying force with the aim of destroying their organisation and installing a puppet regime. I'm obviously not saying that the Taliban were in the right, absolutely not, but that does not mean our servicemen had any right to be there. If you still can't see how the war on terror has not only been a failure but outright counterproductive then there's probably no helping you.
Interestingly, the rate of PTSD in troops that underwent sporadic, minor bombardments in Vietnam, and Afghanistan is super high. I think the constant dread and never having a moment you felt safe takes a toll on you.
@@ddandymann people generaly hate when you come and blow up their stuff and murder their people. hell imagine you would do that to the us. force your way of life on the americans and occupy them. they have so many god damn wappons its basicly a giant volunteer private army gunning you down with military equipment because they would rather shoot you then put up with your bullshit. now some fanatics did 9/11. i doubt the whole of afghanistan etc were behind that. So you piss THEM off by murdering their people and think THEY would be HAPPY to HAVE you in their nation? i totaly agree with you, 20 years after 9/11 the only thing the "liberation" of afghanistan managed was waste of lifes,money and even more radicalism because people are pissed you murder their people and blow up their houses.
As a young man Patton fought in WW1. He saw with his own eyes a sea of men who were driven completely mad from the constant shelling. Men that couldn't stop cackling, screaming, twitching.. men that actually went blind due to the constant concussion damaging their corneas. There were thousands of men in sanitariums decades after the war who were stuck in a crouching position and still wouldn't stand up straight out of the intense fear of being shot. Patton believed those men were cowards and what he did to those men (it happened to more than one soldier) was a great disservice that lowered the morale of his subordinates. Let's be clear here, he was absolutely talented as an officer, but he wasn't very popular with his staff for a reason. He was a glory hound.
@SP - I think you have it exactly correct. I talked with an elderly man in the late 1970s who had served under Patton in the Third Army. He explained to me that most of the troops disliked Patton and considered him a harsh taskmaster.
@@jlmurrel I grew up in a time when a good deal of my classmates had WWII Veterans as Fathers . In my neighborhood I knew a man who had served under Patton . When that movie came out he talked about Patton. He didn’t care for him .
In a way this is what made Patton insane. A great General and also out of touch with reality, which might be the same thing. In a weird connection, it's what Ender's Game is about, they led a great battle because the kids thought it was a simulation, they were disconnected from the reality because they didn't know it was reality.
I'm 67 1/2, and to this day, I jump at any sudden noise or movement. To be safe, I no longer drive. I am not afraid to meet an enemy, I just push my internal nuke button.
It is cowardice to run from the inevitable which is death. General Patton was a great general and a war hero. He saved a lot of lives because of his valor and skill in war.
+Tommy Stedham From en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_S._Patton_slapping_incidents: "..23 August he brought Kuhl into his office, apologized, and shook hands with him as well.[32] After the apology, Kuhl said he thought Patton was "a great general," and that "at the time, he didn't know how sick I was."[32]
It’s a miracle to me that Patton was held accountable for the way he treated that soldier. It was one of the earliest times in American history that a veteran suffering from ptsd had his rights defended by his fellow soldiers and by people higher up from the general rank.
@@tevyeb people like him crack under combat first. It’s always these “brave” folks that comes into battle thinking their super man and that they are fearless that get the most trauma cause war is nothing like they expected. I bet he doesn’t even have the guts to take out dead rats and squirrels let alone seeing dead humans on the battlefield.
Must have picked that one up from his time at the Virginia Military Institute. It says right in the main arch a quote by Stonewall Jackson. "Never take counsel of your fears."
@@Bullski123 That wasn't a new thing for George C. Scott. He expressed disapproval of the Oscars years earlier when he was first nominated for Anatomy of a Murder (1959).
AOR xMinxG yeah like a communist community and also let me correct you, more like you all “required to” agree to each other’s leftist ideology except all ideologies that doesn’t fit whoever’s in charge of the Democrats, which meant Republican ideologies.
"Sorry, Bart. You can push them out of a plane, you can march them off a cliff, you can send them to die on some God-forsaken rock... But for some reason... you can't slap them. Now apologize to that boy at once."
Hazing is different than abuse, you wouldn’t slap someone permanently traumatized seeing their entire family die in a car accident. So why’s it okay if the traumatized person is in the army, and the accident was a mine? Or an enemy ambush? War is horrible, there isn’t any good reason to punish those already paying the mental and physical price for freedom.
Alexander Wang I shoulda edited out my profanities but I was talking about the sentiment behind the quote, I’ve watched Simpsons since I was a little girl
Jackie Ann okay, thanks for clearing up. I agree with the sentiment, shell shocked soldiers should’ve been treated better but it was unfortunate ignorance that was present at the time, so it’s sad that they weren’t being taken seriously.
@@alexanderwang7034 I've read that the German Wehrmacht had a better understanding of and treatment for shell shocked soldiers than the American Army did.
My Dad was on Sicily under Patton when this historic incident occurred. George C Scott was magnificent in his role as Patton. Young Tim Considine--who recently passed on--played the young soldier. A memorable screen moment.
He also played Johnny Fontaine in The Godfather when Don Vito slapped him and told him to stop crying like a woman and act like a man while Tom Hagen giggled. OK, I made that up. Tim Considine didn’t play Johnny Fontaine in The Godfather. But Brando did a great Patton slapping some man into the blubbering Johnny.
My grandfather was a naval corpsman in the Pacific. He told my dad before he passed that PTSD, which was called shell shock or war fatigue, was a condition that required medical attention, not a slap.
Patton actually did this to another soldier as well, I agree that his conduct in these instances were uncalled for. In his defense through "Battle Fatigue" while understood by medical personnel was not well understood by military leaders Patton included. Before WW1 the US military rejected Shell Shock and stated it as an act of cowardice to avoid fighting and those guilty were given harsh punishment. Patton had immense respect for solders who were physically wounded. His old school beliefs I can respect but he did go too far with this. Also people should remember that Patton personally and publicly apologized to the solders he slapped and both accepted his apology. Despite his impulsive brash behavior, he led the single greatest advance in US military history against Germany to relieve the 101st airborne besieged at Bastogne.
DarkSektori was the liberation of bastone in 1945 really the greatest thing the US military ever accomplished? Oh man they have to learn what a real battle is line the eastern front and not fighting the last half trained soldiers whoes tanks cant even move anymore do to lack of fuel. i always find it funny when the us raises the Ardennenoffensive on the same stage as Moscow 41, Stalingrad 42 or Kursk 43. even the Battle of Berlin 45 was more impressive and harder fought than the Battle in the Ardennen forest. the only reason the ardennenoffensive was possible was because the us army was to arrogant to aknowlage the massing of german troops as a threat. the battle was lost for the germans the day it started.
I read somewhere that one of the times Patton slapped a soldier, he hadn't had any sleep for about 48 hours. Obviously, he was exhausted and short-tempered at the time.
Even Omar Bradley criticized Patton for doing this, noting that Patton didn't what the hell of combat could do to a person. Actually, another author, the name escapes me, noted that it's remarkable more men didn't suffer from this kind of mental and emotional trauma while on the battlefield.
I shared the same sentiment as the other comments. RIP Tim Considine, who plays the shell-shocked soldier. I imagined it was intimidating to act alongside acting royalty in George C. Scott. But he did, and memorably. I remember being shocked by it when I saw the movie in high school.
"A report to the Commissar General of State Security (NKVD chief) Lavrentiy Beria on October 10, 1941, noted that since the beginning of the war, NKVD anti-retreat troops had detained a total of 657,364 retreating, spies, traitors, instigators and deserting personnel, of which 25,878 were arrested (of which 10,201 were sentenced to death by court martial and the rest were returned to active duty)" Most of the men who retreated were just sent back to the front.
I think that Patton was so hard and his devotion to duty so strong, that he couldn't understand PTSD despite being in battle constantly. PTSD is a real thing though. That lead him to make this mistake.
I luv when ppl frame history into today's mind set...the world was different back then just like 200 yrs before ww2...things were different back then..norms and values change both good and bad
When I saw this movie in the theater, at the end when Patton shouted "You goddamned COWARD!" you could hear a pin drop--the audience was stunned by the power of this scene.
@@brittanyliburd9245 My grandfather was a 4F...but, I'm sure had he not been disqualified from service medically,...he'd have been in Patton's unit! :)
Joe L: The hell he didn’t. I’ve spoken with dozens of men who have personally heard Patton use phenomenal profanity. He was the most profane practitioner of motivational language of all the American generals.
the soldier he slapped was suffering from PTSD and malaria. He was not a coward, a pussy or a weakling he was a brave soldier who suffered greatly while doing his duty. on the flip side however he is very lucky he wasnt in the Wehrmacht or Red Army the former might have court-martialed and shot him the latter would have simply shot him with no trial.
@@sethmellen1 to a certain extent yes, I don’t consider someone on puberty blockers suddenly deciding what bathroom to use brave. But a very wise definition of brave, I can’t remember who said it, but it goes, “Brave isn’t not being afraid, it’s continuing to fight despite being afraid ”
"Every man is scared in his first action. If he says he's not, he's a goddamn liar. But the real hero is the man who fights even though he's scared. Some men will get over their fright in a minute under fire, some take an hour, and for some it takes days. But the real man never lets his fear of death overpower his honor, his sense of duty to his country, and his innate manhood." - Gen. Patton
"Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best; it removes all that is base. All men are afraid in battle. The coward is the one who lets his fear overcome his sense of duty. Duty is the essence of manhood". - George S. Patton.
Apparently the actual moment is even crazier. At least two orderly had to restrain him from pulling out his pistol. And when he apologized, the formation yelled and begged him to not apologize.
Patton never begged for anyone in his life. The soldier that he slapped sent a word of thanks to Patton for bringing back his courage. I knew a lot of people who served under George Patton, people who were there. You have much to learn about Warriors my young Padawan. People become cowardly when they are thinking of themselves and not sacrificing themselves for the greater good. You have much to learn.
@@prodigalson6166 Um, no : Both of the men Patton slapped were running fevers, and one of them-- Private Charles H. Kuhl-- was later diagnosed with malaria. Kuhl later forgave Patton on the grounds "at the time, he didn't know how sick I was." The other man, Private Paul G. Bennett, was diagnosed with dehydration, fatigue, and confusion, and the medical staff refused his request to be returned to his unit. Patton wrote in his diary that he'd been informed privately that Bennett was AWOL and had "falsely represented his condition", but this contradicts Bennett's medical assessment. You can't "falsely represent" fever or dehydration.
Leo Peridot I wouldn’t disrespect their courage by calling it bad luck by draw some were forced to the front.... maybe but I’d like to believe as others I’m sure that the ones at the front knew the danger and did it anyway bc they loved their country and the freedom of their families and they were willing to give their lives in defense of those freedoms
The irony is that not only could Patton not recognize the psychological wounds in his men, he couldn't even recognize them in himself. I think this is further evidenced by his complete alienation by the rest of civilian society, resulting in him retreating to the battlefield, which is a much more familiar environment for him. This was unironically Richard Nixon's favorite film.
My cancer ridden father, who was a n Irish immigrant, said to me from his hospital bed about 2 weeks before he died in June 1977 that America gave him a lot to be thankful for and that he was grateful to Gen. Patton for coming to the rescue in the Ardennes during the Battle of the Bulge. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@rustyhowe3907 I'm starting to think that PTSD is contagious. Even today, I get nervous when someone raises their voice to me; when I get angry, I start yelling, too.
Patton actually slapped 2 soldiers that day. One of the soldiers Patton slapped had been in combat for over a year. He was a member of an artillery crew that had been hit by a German arty round earlier that day. He was the only one who lived. He declined to go the hospital voluntarily, his CO ordered him to go because he stopped talking. Patton should have been court martialed for striking that soldier.
I’ve been told by a number of combat veterans that the big mouth barracks brawlers were the first to chicken out under fire. The timid looking choir boys would fight like tigers while in battle.
Justin Nguyen idk, soldiers heart has a positive ring to it, like if you just committed an act of valor. Shell shock actually sounds like something bad just happened.
I had the good fortune of talking with a VA doctor who was involved (currently 2016) with the triage of our young troops who are returning from the Middle East battlefront with mental trauma....He says that there are 3 separate and distinct types of patients with PTSD symptoms and they are about split with 33% in each catagory. One type has PTSD and is willing to come forward and be treated. The second type has PTSD and will not come forward to be treated---they are usually forced into a visit to the VA by family or friends after the symptoms become extreme; and the Third type claims to have PTSD and makes a claim for compensation, but he/she is faking it. He told me that separating the three types early on in the treatment is very hard to do and that the VA spends vast amounts of $$$ in an effort to determine who really needs help versus who is the fake.
I suffer for PTSD and I am the 2nd one on your list . I was treated but still did I did not take of it . I still believe my thoughts and emotions . Tried to kill my self or cause harm to my self many many times . Tried it with bottle , drugs and both with the same time . Jump out of a car at 60 mph or so . Walked in front of cars many times but it seems thay I get my self in away . Now I own a gun I would never take any other life other than my own with it . But one day and if it gets really really bad I will use it . For the last 10 years it's not as bad as it had been 46 years ago . I never would make a clame at the VA . This problem started before I joined up but never finished I was wash up after the 6th week into it . But what that time I was in what it done was added to all my failures I had before . I was worthless when I was born to this vary day . All the failures that had stacked on me is what did it . The Navy thing just doubled that at once . I was beaten when I was a kid . I left home at the age of 13 , I failed an education . I failed at jobs , I failed the NAVY . That what broke me or I should say all of that combined made me snaped . I self destruct . I expect things to go wrong and it always will . Every fking thing fights me . I get tired but I dont want to give up . I call it the war with in . and it dont stop . It's not the NAVY fualt or anything like that . They did not caused it . I am not on of those kind of people like my brother that did joined the services now getting checks for PTSD or other things . I joined I did not make it and that is it . The only reason why I do go to the VA is because I cant afford other places for Treatments . I do suffer from mental illnesses . I believe payments is not a treatment . A check is not Treatment . A check is for because of Disabilities . If ones been cured then the checks should be stoped . In my case the voices in my head wont stop never have and never will . Nightmares keeps comming . swets , just believing thing that cant be is a struggle for me Dayly life is a stuggle .
The thing that is so crazy about this scene is Patton went from a sympathetic, praying General for a wounded soldier and even when he approaches the then called shell shocked soldier slowly and emphatically. BUT when he hears the sobbing soldier’s reason for being there he explodes in a rage and not having none of this poor soldiers excuse! I would think the staff should of had enough sense to hide this guy knowing Patton’s rep!
@@Kyle-2020 to be fair Post traumatic stress syndrome was not widely known or recognized back then . 1940’s mental health was still in the dark ages as far as warfare was concerned
Patton was a very complicated man. He ran the gamut of emotions in just minutes. This is typical of geniuses. Patton would pray earnestly and then swear for 5 minutes straight without repeating the same word. In the movie, when the German Lieutenant was informing Rommel of Pattons' character and temperament, at one point he stopped and could see Rommel looking defeated. Rommel knew that he met his match.
I'm honored to be included in a comment section with so many war heroes who understand so well the physical and psychological toll of modern warfare. Unlike most of the cowards in this comment sections, he actually joined the army to fight a war. I hate humanity...
Tyler Brennon not much of a choice when they’re drafted. You chose to join up and that’s great for you but a lot of people don’t have that in them. Especially when they’re forced. Maybe understand that before you go around casting judgement. Those same drafted soldiers in Vietnam were called baby killers and came back from a war and their government abandoned them. Sometimes it’s a choice and sometimes it’s not. Just saying that.
Don't hate yourself bro, hating humanity isn't a solution. The problem is, most of the UA-cam comments today were acting like Reddit and Facebook talker like jerks. If you have problem like this, you better seek some help rather than typing some burdern. This is Patton movie, not some real life.
There is more to the story.....During the invasion of Italy Major General George Allen was in charge of the Big Red One Division (Which was part of the II Corp That Patton led). And some of the men of the units started to desert. Patton called the Allen of the 1st Division and asked for a SITREP..General Allen told him that his division is "thinning out" in some places (meaning they lost man power and not all of it was from physical battle wounds)...Patton figured that the men were deserting and seeing Private Charles Kuhl wearing the Big Red One Patch and not seeing any physical wounds sealed his fate pretty much. (Same for Pvt. Bennet. The other soldier who was slapped)
I knew the late Tim Considine and his un-late older brother, John. They were Hollywood royalty. Their father, John Considine, Sr. was one of the great producers at MGM, "Boys' Town", "Edison the Man" and other classics. They would share their experiences of "learning to swim in the big outdoor pool at the Hearst Ranch" and other memories of growing up on the MGM lot.
Fun fact: The shell-shocked soldier was played by Tim Considine, who also played the oldest son Mike on the TV show My Three Sons. He left the show about halfway through its run.
I also like the part right before this scene begins when he is talking to a wounded fellow statesman who said he was hit in the chest. And patton replied that the last German he saw didn't have any chest. Didn't have a head either
Patton had a personal camera and sometimes took snaps of German corpses. It is said that postwar he claimed that the USA had been fighting the wrong enemy but at the time he was enthusiastic enough about killing Germans.
I remember we had a young soldier cry in Afghanistan that he couldn’t take it anymore. Cried so hard we had to send him back home to behavioral health. All the way up to deployment he bragged about deploying. He embarrassed his platoon the company, his ncos and his unit.
The soldier that got slapped was Tim Considine of Spin and Marty Disney shorts and a The Shaggy Dog. Played the role of Mike Douglas as the elder son on My Three Sons.
No. There's always an exception piece of junk like you in the mix. If you weaklings didn't exist real men wouldn't have to be if it is up to people like you you'd hand over your whole family's and your guts on a platter to whoever asked you for it. You goddamn coward @@marknorris1381
And he had gone to an astrologer in New York during the 1930s (in addition to reincarnation, Patton also believed in Astrology). The astrologer told him that there would in fact be another world war, and he would be leading men in combat during that war. The astrologer also told him that he would not live long after the war- that if he were to make his mark, militarily speaking, it would have to be so during this conflict.
Psychological injuries due to prolonged combat and being shelled are no less real than physical injuries. Patton's behavior was wrong and Eisenhower was right in dressing down Patton for slapping a soldier.
A. Rahman nope, your a full grown man in WAR... theres NO time for one on one counseling and/or cry time. Theres men and woman who died from bravery... you dont DARE cry out of fear when you havent even been wounded. General Patton fought many battles and seen it all... hes right, NO cowards belong in the army
Waffen SS no PTSD. We nearly beat you on the Bulge if it was not for Pattons wrath- you've grown soft. He was the only general we truly feared as he hated weaklings like us as burdens and maligners.
General! he has PTSD. Nobody knew about it then. Little knowledge is a dangerous thing. I am glad he did not shoot him. Seems like Patton himself was under lot of stress. I had young US Marine patients like that in Vietnam in 1969. They told me Doc! "I have' battle rattle'. I can't take it". I knew exactly what they were talking about. I kept them in the hospital till their condition improved or referred them to Psychiatrist. We had 6 psychiatrists at our Field hospital, in Danang. Four of the psychiatrists were housed in the same hootch I was. All of them were under terrible stress due to rocket constantly flying overhead and threats of ground invasion by Viet-Cong. I as surgeon gave these psychiatrists, therapy/ counselling, and it did work. It brought back smiles on their faces. I as a surgeon was trained to have cool nerves. I think in boot camps, they should be instructed, how to handle stress.
"Patton asks him what his problem is, and the soldier tells him his nerves are shot. Instead of reacting with the compassion of the life-giving King who knows what his men are up against, Patton flies into a rage and slaps the soldier across the face, calls him a coward, humiliates and abuses him, and sends him from the hospital to the front lines. Though he does not know it, what he has seen is the face of his own hidden fear and weakness projected onto another. He has glimpsed the Weakling within."
Patton may have been eccentric, and he was in the wrong during this incident, but calling him a coward is just plain dumb. The man had balls made of iron.
It's one of the greatest scenes in cinematic history. Patton goes from being deeeply moved, almost to tears at the sacrifice made by a wounded soldier; then when he comes across the soldier with PTSD, he goes completely berserk. This scene is a master class in acting; Scott throroughly deserved the Oscar for Best Actor.
Seeing this video pop up on UA-cam now makes me think about Band of Brothers. Specifically the scene where Buck Compton is taken off the defensive lines of Bastogne for "a bad case of trenchfoot."
Great acting. Masterpiece. About the real slapping incident, the German general in the movie said it best: "You really think they will sacrifice the best fieldcommander they have on account of a little slap around the ear? Think again!"
This scene really brings to life what happened in Sicily. For those who have studied George S. Patton, this outburst almost ended his career, but General Eisenhower dismissed the incident, due to the fact that they had to win the war in Europe, and Patton was the key to doing so.
Caleb Crites he didn’t dismiss the incident. It cost his career dearly. Patton was not the key to anything. He was a valuable commander for breakthrough operations, hardly critical.
This was one of the final straws in Patton’s reputation with Ike. There’s a reason he didn’t land on dday. And no he wasn’t key to the war… it would’ve been won just the same if he didn’t exist.
I think what gets swept under the rug is the politics of it. We talk about how northern generals in the Civil War were political and undermining eachother and so on. What would make ww2 any different? At the time to any general it would be clear that the allies were going to win and whoever was in charge when it happened and got the glory would have garenteed political success after the war. Eisenhower became president for example. Patton's success would have put a target on his back to his rivals. They'd see if they could get him removed and them placed in his position they'd be the new winner and glory getter. I wouldn't be surprised at all if we found some evidence eventually that some rival of Patton paid the reporters to report the story so much. It also seems odd that during ww2, when the media was censored and supposed to focus on victories, was allowed to even run so much with this story. You'd think someone at the censors would say "Patton is too important to our war effort to have this story printed." Instead it seems the opposite. Seems like someone higher up pushed the story to be wider spread and a big deal. I'm not downplaying what Patton did but let's be honest this was ww2 and this sort of thing would have been censored unless someone wanted Patton gone.
What did Patton actually DO? He was kept out of DDay because he was thought incompetent; he drove a few miles unopposed and then besieged Metz - which was pointless because it was both empty and irrelevant; he failed to seal the Ardennes pocket; he fought to major battles at all; he died in a car crash. So what’s all the fuss about?
You see the most accurate depiction of his character and yet you still praise this pos? You’d probably ride for McArthur too, or General Curtis “bombs away” Lemay…
A bit over 20% of troops suffered shell shock in WWII. There were speciality hospitals that were established to treat shell shock and men would be sent to these hospitals rather than traditional hospitals . These hospitals had some success treating men so they could return to active duty, but many others were not able to function in active duty after treatment. They would be transferred back to US or other places away from combat. Shell shock affected every branch of the military ! A person can research how shell shock was treated , it's very interesting. Even Patton had a break down visiting a concentration camp, when he runs out , with his hand over his mouth !!
Pattons only value was on the battlefield. Once the fighting was done he had no worth anymore. Of course he wanted anotger war. He wasnt the type to sit idly in retirement.
Patton, Eisenhower, McArthur, Bradley, George Marshall, and others were all protégés of Gen. John “Black Jack” Pershing during WWI I feel like he doesn’t get enough credit for that so I thought I’d mention it here
This scene reminds me of a similar scene in Stanley Kubricks Paths of Glory (1957) where a French general strikes a shell shocked soldier a couple of times.
Patton was extremely ignorant to the effects of PTSD I think he was a great leader and military tactician and strategist especially in motivating his men to work as a team but where he really screwed up was letting his ego control him and also not taking into account the internal wounds as men are suffering not just the physical ones. At least Ike Eisenhower chewed his ass out for doing this and Patton to his credit apologized.
I think one of the reasons why Patton was ignorant of PTSD was simply because he felt that most soldiers should be like him. He had seen his share of battle in WWI and came out the way he did, with even more of a fire for battle, and when he saw someone cower, even young men, he took it as cowardice.
the Issue with "Combat fatigue" is that it is real but is very easy to fake. also it develops faster in weaker people and slowly in stronger people. one problem is that the more you allow people to leave the more people will leave. the more you allow PTSD to become and excuse to escape combat the more you will have people use it.
Indy Wanderer ,I disliked Eisenhower, that bastard sent thousands of men into action yet had never been in combat himself , he should have never been in command of the US army , as Monty said he is not a proper soldier,
Spoken like someone who doesn’t care to know history (or who knows it and yet would be happy to help the Wehrmacht and ss, etc. in their aggressive war). So, either ignorant, or the lowest of the low deluded criminal
My dad was a medic in Pattons 3rd Army....had a picture of Patton taking a piss in the Rhine River in his wallet.....true story...RIP Dad...
Can you show the pic?
@The Wraith Patton said he always wanted to do that when he reached the Rein. Take this Hitler! lol
@The Wraith Not really, just dark humor.
yea ok troll
What a legendary picture! I literally just laughed out loud 😅
Patton got into A LOT of trouble for this. Eisenhower temporarily removed him from command, privately reprimanded Patton, and made him publicly apologize to the soldier.
@@straightpride442 ignoring the mental health of your soldiers does not make you a "man". Ignoring 100 years of studies (the first after WW1) that prove how she'll shock is a real thing is just stupid and counterproductive.
This man should have been treated like the others.
@@straightpride442 27740 and is getting worst by the day
@@straightpride442 username checks out
Did you order that code red?
@Hamual Davis Lol straight shaming coward
I won't have you in my UA-cam comments
"He has a coma...unfortunately we don't know if he'll ever wake up again."
"You hear me! YA GOT DAMN COWARD!!!"
"Oh look at that, he woke up."
It was super effective!
That was the idea. Patton was trying to make the boy more afraid of HIM, than of the battlefield. As you guys said, it worked. Bob Knight and Woody Hayes did the same thing in sports.
@@stephaniegormley9982 "I _SLAP_ the PTSD outta my soldiers!!!"
-George S. Patton
@@DJones476 - The cure!
@@DJones476 "I am the PTSD" - Patton
Even the soldier with the oxygen mask woke out of his coma!!!
I guess he thought he's about to order me out of this bed
Na, he's still sleeping.
Why can’t he just give the shell shocked soldier some time to recover and have some of his other men take his place?
@@kingkrool1935 He instigate discipline to the soldier imagine he let it slide then the whole army might do it too. Its war there is no time to tuck in to comfy blankets and have a time out. While his Brothers in arms die in battle he is there crying. That is why Gen. Patton is furious about it.
@@hughmungus2392 I get it and they may be short on men but regardless of that everyone needs to replenish
"You're going to the front or I'm going to put you in front of a firing squad!"
*Imperial Guard intensifies*
ah is this a Warhammer 40k man
Send Patton into 40k and Chaos would be defeated within days
If Patton would have tried placing him in front of a firing squad, his career as a general would have been over.
Imperial Commissar: "what the heck is a field hospital?"
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Admech Biologos : We prefer to call it a repair shop
Everyone’s a badass until bullets start flying. Combat can bring out the best and the worst of all of us. Say what you will about Patton and leaders like him. In times of war, you’d rather have them than not.
Exactly Jerry!
For some odd reason General Patton reminds me of Colonel Nathan Jessup in the movie "A few good men".
Ma007rk I agree.
Yes that's true.
Jerry Kinion There are no field commanders of high rank anymore, you dipshit.
To understand "shell shock" some soldiers in World War 1 were found dead after an artillery barrage dead without a mark on them. The intense concussion of the blast hat caused brain hemorrhaging. No wonder some cracked and went insane.
@Sabrina Dugan So where exactly would you recommend hiding from a carpet bombing campaign from the largest airforce on Earth?
@Sabrina Dugan Foreign servicemen who were in their country as an occupying force with the aim of destroying their organisation and installing a puppet regime. I'm obviously not saying that the Taliban were in the right, absolutely not, but that does not mean our servicemen had any right to be there.
If you still can't see how the war on terror has not only been a failure but outright counterproductive then there's probably no helping you.
its the price of winning a war... we are all here today living comfy thanks to them
Interestingly, the rate of PTSD in troops that underwent sporadic, minor bombardments in Vietnam, and Afghanistan is super high. I think the constant dread and never having a moment you felt safe takes a toll on you.
@@ddandymann people generaly hate when you come and blow up their stuff and murder their people. hell imagine you would do that to the us. force your way of life on the americans and occupy them.
they have so many god damn wappons its basicly a giant volunteer private army gunning you down with military equipment because they would rather shoot you then put up with your bullshit.
now some fanatics did 9/11. i doubt the whole of afghanistan etc were behind that. So you piss THEM off by murdering their people and think THEY would be HAPPY to HAVE you in their nation?
i totaly agree with you, 20 years after 9/11 the only thing the "liberation" of afghanistan managed was waste of lifes,money and even more radicalism because people are pissed you murder their people and blow up their houses.
George C.Scott was the only actor that could have played this part!
Burt Lancaster, Kirk Douglas, Richard Burton, Charlton Heston, Gene Hackman, Tom Hanks.
@@Cryptonymicus tom hanks .. no
@@Cryptonymicus Tom Hanks is my favorite actor but I can't see him playing the role of Patton
Kelsey Grammer did a good job portraying him in "An American Carol"
@Leo Peridot How could the guy who portrayed Major Dad do a sucky job of portraying General George C. Scott?
As a young man Patton fought in WW1. He saw with his own eyes a sea of men who were driven completely mad from the constant shelling. Men that couldn't stop cackling, screaming, twitching.. men that actually went blind due to the constant concussion damaging their corneas. There were thousands of men in sanitariums decades after the war who were stuck in a crouching position and still wouldn't stand up straight out of the intense fear of being shot. Patton believed those men were cowards and what he did to those men (it happened to more than one soldier) was a great disservice that lowered the morale of his subordinates. Let's be clear here, he was absolutely talented as an officer, but he wasn't very popular with his staff for a reason. He was a glory hound.
@SP - I think you have it exactly correct. I talked with an elderly man in the late 1970s who had served under Patton in the Third Army. He explained to me that most of the troops disliked Patton and considered him a harsh taskmaster.
@@jlmurrel I grew up in a time when a good deal of my classmates had WWII Veterans as Fathers . In my neighborhood I knew a man who had served under Patton . When that movie came out he talked about Patton. He didn’t care for him .
In a way this is what made Patton insane. A great General and also out of touch with reality, which might be the same thing. In a weird connection, it's what Ender's Game is about, they led a great battle because the kids thought it was a simulation, they were disconnected from the reality because they didn't know it was reality.
I'm 67 1/2, and to this day, I jump at any sudden noise or movement. To be safe, I no longer drive. I am not afraid to meet an enemy, I just push my internal nuke button.
It is cowardice to run from the inevitable which is death. General Patton was a great general and a war hero. He saved a lot of lives because of his valor and skill in war.
He played this role so well that when I was a kid I thought he was general George Patton
Tbh, sometimes I forget he isn’t either. They look so much alike too.
I know, lol look at the constant anger he's in
@@tomlyons8440first name is same. The actor is george c. scott
@@speedking7224 literally sounds like the name of a 5 star american general lol
Me either 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 when I think on Patton, I still think on this Patton and not the real one.
In reality, the man he slapped about was suffering from undiagnosed malaria. And he had nothing but admiration for his general
+Richard Sheehan Do you have a link for that story?
+Tommy Stedham From en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_S._Patton_slapping_incidents: "..23 August he brought Kuhl into his office, apologized, and shook hands with him as well.[32] After the apology, Kuhl said he thought Patton was "a great general," and that "at the time, he didn't know how sick I was."[32]
+Richard Sheehan Okay, thanks.
Superdog I'm sorry, I didn't realise you fought on the Mediterranean front back in 1943?
UNDIAGNOSED MALARIA MY ASS.
Now this is acting, gave me goosebumps.
It’s a miracle to me that Patton was held accountable for the way he treated that soldier. It was one of the earliest times in American history that a veteran suffering from ptsd had his rights defended by his fellow soldiers and by people higher up from the general rank.
I mean compare it to Paths of Glory
He was held accountable because he struck a subordinate.
That soldier should've been court martialed. Early example of a "woke" military. Patton was right.
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@@mywifesboyfriend5741 No replies will be read?
So, who's the coward?
Hypocrite clown.
@@tevyeb people like him crack under combat first. It’s always these “brave” folks that comes into battle thinking their super man and that they are fearless that get the most trauma cause war is nothing like they expected. I bet he doesn’t even have the guts to take out dead rats and squirrels let alone seeing dead humans on the battlefield.
This guy is one of the best actors I have ever seen or will ever see
"Never accept your fears as advisers."
- George Patton
Yeah, only if you want to live.
But not if you want to succeed.
We face death everyday, but we still drive our cars, cross the street, and go on airplanes.
Nice burn. Lol.
Must have picked that one up from his time at the Virginia Military Institute. It says right in the main arch a quote by Stonewall Jackson. "Never take counsel of your fears."
Brilliant acting...
Such realistic depiction of Patton. Truly amazing acting
And he refused to accept the academy award for his performance ,citing a dislike of the voting process and the concept of acting competitions.
He certainly made ole Patton a hero…
@@Bullski123 That wasn't a new thing for George C. Scott. He expressed disapproval of the Oscars years earlier when he was first nominated for Anatomy of a Murder (1959).
Imagine if Patton could see colleges now.
It would sound like thunder waking a baby in the dorms.
Neil Hardie What is safe spaces anyway? All I've heard is a place where everyone agrees with you.
AOR xMinxG yeah like a communist community and also let me correct you, more like you all “required to” agree to each other’s leftist ideology except all ideologies that doesn’t fit whoever’s in charge of the Democrats, which meant Republican ideologies.
Imagine if college safe spaces could see Patton.
I imagine he'd drive the tanks down and cut those commies yellow guts out and grease the tank treads with em.
"Sorry, Bart. You can push them out of a plane, you can march them off a cliff, you can send them to die on some God-forsaken rock... But for some reason... you can't slap them.
Now apologize to that boy at once."
Hazing is different than abuse, you wouldn’t slap someone permanently traumatized seeing their entire family die in a car accident. So why’s it okay if the traumatized person is in the army, and the accident was a mine? Or an enemy ambush? War is horrible, there isn’t any good reason to punish those already paying the mental and physical price for freedom.
Jackie Ann he was referencing the simpsons
Alexander Wang I shoulda edited out my profanities but I was talking about the sentiment behind the quote, I’ve watched Simpsons since I was a little girl
Jackie Ann okay, thanks for clearing up. I agree with the sentiment, shell shocked soldiers should’ve been treated better but it was unfortunate ignorance that was present at the time, so it’s sad that they weren’t being taken seriously.
@@alexanderwang7034 I've read that the German Wehrmacht had a better understanding of and treatment for shell shocked soldiers than the American Army did.
My Dad was on Sicily under Patton when this historic incident occurred. George C Scott was magnificent in his role as Patton. Young Tim Considine--who recently passed on--played the young soldier. A memorable screen moment.
So was my Uncle Claude. He was part of a Recon unit.
Actually, it happened twice, he slapped 2 solders on two different occasions.
God bless General Patton, George C. Scott, and Tim Considine! ❤❤❤
Tim Considine played the soldier that Patton slapped. Rest in Peace, Tim.
Yea I just read that in an article. Didn't realize Tim was on My Three Sons. Must've been b4 my time.
Considine was my AYSO soccer coach in 1991
It's ironic the soldier he slapped was a hero in an episode of the hit TV show Combat with Vic Morrow
He also played Johnny Fontaine in The Godfather when Don Vito slapped him and told him to stop crying like a woman and act like a man while Tom Hagen giggled. OK, I made that up. Tim Considine didn’t play Johnny Fontaine in The Godfather. But Brando did a great Patton slapping some man into the blubbering Johnny.
My grandfather was a naval corpsman in the Pacific. He told my dad before he passed that PTSD, which was called shell shock or war fatigue, was a condition that required medical attention, not a slap.
My great grandpa topd my grandpa the exact opposite. He fought in Jugoslavia
Medical attention? Not really. Those troops need time and rest more than anything.
@@lightattheend5023 yugoslavia
@@vato3328 Jugoslavija.
@@lightattheend5023 you can’t spell or something
Patton actually did this to another soldier as well, I agree that his conduct in these instances were uncalled for. In his defense through "Battle Fatigue" while understood by medical personnel was not well understood by military leaders Patton included. Before WW1 the US military rejected Shell Shock and stated it as an act of cowardice to avoid fighting and those guilty were given harsh punishment. Patton had immense respect for solders who were physically wounded. His old school beliefs I can respect but he did go too far with this. Also people should remember that Patton personally and publicly apologized to the solders he slapped and both accepted his apology. Despite his impulsive brash behavior, he led the single greatest advance in US military history against Germany to relieve the 101st airborne besieged at Bastogne.
DarkSektori was the liberation of bastone in 1945 really the greatest thing the US military ever accomplished? Oh man they have to learn what a real battle is line the eastern front and not fighting the last half trained soldiers whoes tanks cant even move anymore do to lack of fuel.
i always find it funny when the us raises the Ardennenoffensive on the same stage as Moscow 41, Stalingrad 42 or Kursk 43. even the Battle of Berlin 45 was more impressive and harder fought than the Battle in the Ardennen forest.
the only reason the ardennenoffensive was possible was because the us army was to arrogant to aknowlage the massing of german troops as a threat. the battle was lost for the germans the day it started.
problem is you can't tell the difference between "battle fatigue" and "malingering"
I read somewhere that one of the times Patton slapped a soldier, he hadn't had any sleep for about 48 hours. Obviously, he was exhausted and short-tempered at the time.
DarkSektori It's the Army not a sjw safe space.
Even Omar Bradley criticized Patton for doing this, noting that Patton didn't what the hell of combat could do to a person. Actually, another author, the name escapes me, noted that it's remarkable more men didn't suffer from this kind of mental and emotional trauma while on the battlefield.
I shared the same sentiment as the other comments. RIP Tim Considine, who plays the shell-shocked soldier. I imagined it was intimidating to act alongside acting royalty in George C. Scott. But he did, and memorably. I remember being shocked by it when I saw the movie in high school.
My Grandfather served under him. Loved him he said. Told me he would follow him thru hell and back.
RIP Ole blood and guts
Soviet officer: “Patton was reprimanded for merely slapping a soldier? We shot them for only retreating!
*Lol*
The Russians sent their liberated POWs to gulags.
Officer ? You mean commissar
"A report to the Commissar General of State Security (NKVD chief) Lavrentiy Beria on October 10, 1941, noted that since the beginning of the war, NKVD anti-retreat troops had detained a total of 657,364 retreating, spies, traitors, instigators and deserting personnel, of which 25,878 were arrested (of which 10,201 were sentenced to death by court martial and the rest were returned to active duty)"
Most of the men who retreated were just sent back to the front.
In a real army, (which the American military is not,) cowards are not tolerated.
I think that Patton was so hard and his devotion to duty so strong, that he couldn't understand PTSD despite being in battle constantly. PTSD is a real thing though. That lead him to make this mistake.
I don't think he cared.
Problem I guess is that the soldier looks like a weak guy so he thinks it’s cowardice. If he was 6’4 then it would look different.
Also considering PTSD was a stigma in the military and not openly talked about until very recentlty without being reprimanded
I luv when ppl frame history into today's mind set...the world was different back then just like 200 yrs before ww2...things were different back then..norms and values change both good and bad
@Paul Remer why would he be crying if he has malaria
When I saw this movie in the theater, at the end when Patton shouted "You goddamned COWARD!" you could hear a pin drop--the audience was stunned by the power of this scene.
This man was a BRILLIANT actor.
My grandmother's cousin, Karl Wernli (now deceased), served under Patton throughout the war and was an eyewitness to this incident in real life.
My father's friend's 3rd cousin knew a man who heard of another man who ...never mind. :)
Lol my great father was his orderly
@@brittanyliburd9245 My grandfather was a 4F...but, I'm sure had he not been disqualified from service medically,...he'd have been in Patton's unit! :)
Cool
there was at least two of these incidents
George C. Scott. Now there's an actor. The rest are just imitations.
George C Scott.
*George S Patton.*
So close.
R Lee Ermey is at the same level as George C. Scott.
Only George didn't curse like R Lee.
YouthFreedomFighters Yeah, maybe heighth- wise ......
Joe L: The hell he didn’t. I’ve spoken with dozens of men who have personally heard Patton use phenomenal profanity. He was the most profane practitioner of motivational language of all the American generals.
the soldier he slapped was suffering from PTSD and malaria. He was not a coward, a pussy or a weakling he was a brave soldier who suffered greatly while doing his duty. on the flip side however he is very lucky he wasnt in the Wehrmacht or Red Army the former might have court-martialed and shot him the latter would have simply shot him with no trial.
AmericanWarrior1776 Actually the soldier that was slapped loved Patton and only was in there for "undiagnosed" malaria.
Thomas Eastmond Patton slapped two soldiers
Please remember Patton was a veteran of WWI and the punitive campaign in Mexico. It’s not like he hadn’t seen combat, himself.
Gladly General Eisenhower told General Patton to apologize.
@@sethmellen1 to a certain extent yes, I don’t consider someone on puberty blockers suddenly deciding what bathroom to use brave.
But a very wise definition of brave, I can’t remember who said it, but it goes, “Brave isn’t not being afraid, it’s continuing to fight despite being afraid ”
"Every man is scared in his first action. If he says he's not, he's a goddamn liar. But the real hero is the man who fights even though he's scared. Some men will get over their fright in a minute under fire, some take an hour, and for some it takes days. But the real man never lets his fear of death overpower his honor, his sense of duty to his country, and his innate manhood." - Gen. Patton
its war not monopoly
I would say "overpower his mind". Fear is the mind killer, and often it is safer to go against your fear.
"Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best; it removes all that is base. All men are afraid in battle. The coward is the one who lets his fear overcome his sense of duty. Duty is the essence of manhood". - George S. Patton.
@@largelump3613 Patton was one of the greatest generals who ever lived. He wasn’t afraid to take the fight to the enemy.
@@Sigma0283 Yeah right. That tard's tank was only first in after the airborne cleared the way.
Apparently the actual moment is even crazier. At least two orderly had to restrain him from pulling out his pistol. And when he apologized, the formation yelled and begged him to not apologize.
Fun fact: When Eisenhower was informed of the incident, Patton was scared that he would be fired and actually begged Eisenhower not to send him home.
Mynameisawars scared? He was ready to go to the pacific......if he did get fired! Read the whole history........not just the movie “Ike”.
Patton never begged for anyone in his life. The soldier that he slapped sent a word of thanks to Patton for bringing back his courage. I knew a lot of people who served under George Patton, people who were there.
You have much to learn about Warriors my young Padawan. People become cowardly when they are thinking of themselves and not sacrificing themselves for the greater good. You have much to learn.
@@prodigalson6166 agreed. Just remember though everyone has their breaking point.
@@prodigalson6166 Um, no : Both of the men Patton slapped were running fevers, and one of them-- Private Charles H. Kuhl-- was later diagnosed with malaria. Kuhl later forgave Patton on the grounds "at the time, he didn't know how sick I was."
The other man, Private Paul G. Bennett, was diagnosed with dehydration, fatigue, and confusion, and the medical staff refused his request to be returned to his unit. Patton wrote in his diary that he'd been informed privately that Bennett was AWOL and had "falsely represented his condition", but this contradicts Bennett's medical assessment. You can't "falsely represent" fever or dehydration.
Everybody’s cool until you get called into Ike’s office.
Honestly, in combat, I would be that guy
I’d be that guy if at Normandy at the front of the boat. Those guys had brass balls
me too buddy. and im a conscript too. but lucky me nobody wants to do world wars anymore.
Agreed
Leo Peridot I wouldn’t disrespect their courage by calling it bad luck by draw some were forced to the front.... maybe but I’d like to believe as others I’m sure that the ones at the front knew the danger and did it anyway bc they loved their country and the freedom of their families and they were willing to give their lives in defense of those freedoms
@@marcusjohnson6412 they did it for us but lets not act like they wanted to be on that boat
The irony is that not only could Patton not recognize the psychological wounds in his men, he couldn't even recognize them in himself. I think this is further evidenced by his complete alienation by the rest of civilian society, resulting in him retreating to the battlefield, which is a much more familiar environment for him. This was unironically Richard Nixon's favorite film.
His acting is so good and brilliant.
My cancer ridden father, who was a n Irish immigrant, said to me from his hospital bed about 2 weeks before he died in June 1977 that America gave him a lot to be thankful for and that he was grateful to Gen. Patton for coming to the rescue in the Ardennes during the Battle of the Bulge. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Patton was anti-Irish.
That look he gives when he screams "You goddamn coward!"
That's how my dad (a combat vet of Korea & Vietnam) looked when he got very angry. He could have scared the Devil himself.
@@lindaoneil5085 My dad had that look too, except he learned from HIS father who was in Vietnam.
@@rustyhowe3907 I'm starting to think that PTSD is contagious. Even today, I get nervous when someone raises their voice to me; when I get angry, I start yelling, too.
@@lindaoneil5085 That's called being a human though.
@@rustyhowe3907 A human with Intermittent Explosive Disorder, yes. Maybe with some PTSD mixed in.
Patton actually slapped 2 soldiers that day. One of the soldiers Patton slapped had been in combat for over a year. He was a member of an artillery crew that had been hit by a German arty round earlier that day. He was the only one who lived. He declined to go the hospital voluntarily, his CO ordered him to go because he stopped talking. Patton should have been court martialed for striking that soldier.
I’ve been told by a number of combat veterans that the big mouth barracks brawlers were the first to chicken out under fire. The timid looking choir boys would fight like tigers while in battle.
Slap was so strong, it revived all the wounded troops.
George C Scott was AMAZING in this scene!
Why do we even call it ptsd, shell shock sounds soo much better
Murican Empire or Soldier's Heart. that's what they called it during the Civil War
Justin Nguyen idk, soldiers heart has a positive ring to it, like if you just committed an act of valor. Shell shock actually sounds like something bad just happened.
Murican Empire where is the difference between shell shock and PTSD
Johnny Bilodeau it's the same thing
Murican Empire nope it actually isn't but they are very similar the only different is shell shock is made specifically from explosions like artillery
He slapped him in front of Doctors.Big mistake! They don't look the other way !No matter what that soldier is THEIR patient!
R.I.P. Tim Considine. Original oldest son on My Three Sons and grandson of Alexander Pantages of the theater chain.
I had the good fortune of talking with a VA doctor who was involved (currently 2016) with the triage of our young troops who are returning from the Middle East battlefront with mental trauma....He says that there are 3 separate and distinct types of patients with PTSD symptoms and they are about split with 33% in each catagory. One type has PTSD and is willing to come forward and be treated. The second type has PTSD and will not come forward to be treated---they are usually forced into a visit to the VA by family or friends after the symptoms become extreme; and the Third type claims to have PTSD and makes a claim for compensation, but he/she is faking it. He told me that separating the three types early on in the treatment is very hard to do and that the VA spends vast amounts of $$$ in an effort to determine who really needs help versus who is the fake.
I suffer for PTSD and I am the 2nd one on your list . I was treated but still did I did not take of it . I still believe my thoughts and emotions . Tried to kill my self or cause harm to my self many many times . Tried it with bottle , drugs and both with the same time . Jump out of a car at 60 mph or so . Walked in front of cars many times but it seems thay I get my self in away . Now I own a gun I would never take any other life other than my own with it . But one day and if it gets really really bad I will use it . For the last 10 years it's not as bad as it had been 46 years ago . I never would make a clame at the VA . This problem started before I joined up but never finished I was wash up after the 6th week into it . But what that time I was in what it done was added to all my failures I had before . I was worthless when I was born to this vary day . All the failures that had stacked on me is what did it . The Navy thing just doubled that at once . I was beaten when I was a kid . I left home at the age of 13 , I failed an education . I failed at jobs , I failed the NAVY . That what broke me or I should say all of that combined made me snaped . I self destruct . I expect things to go wrong and it always will . Every fking thing fights me . I get tired but I dont want to give up . I call it the war with in . and it dont stop . It's not the NAVY fualt or anything like that . They did not caused it . I am not on of those kind of people like my brother that did joined the services now getting checks for PTSD or other things . I joined I did not make it and that is it . The only reason why I do go to the VA is because I cant afford other places for Treatments . I do suffer from mental illnesses . I believe payments is not a treatment . A check is not Treatment . A check is for because of Disabilities . If ones been cured then the checks should be stoped . In my case the voices in my head wont stop never have and never will . Nightmares keeps comming . swets , just believing thing that cant be is a struggle for me Dayly life is a stuggle .
General George “I Slap PTSD Outta My Soldiers” Patton ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
It went from shell shock to PTSD.
The thing that is so crazy about this scene is Patton went from a sympathetic, praying General for a wounded soldier and even when he approaches the then called shell shocked soldier slowly and emphatically. BUT when he hears the sobbing soldier’s reason for being there he explodes in a rage and not having none of this poor soldiers excuse! I would think the staff should of had enough sense to hide this guy knowing Patton’s rep!
As a Warrior, He saw it as an insult to be counted among men actually wounded.
@@Kyle-2020 I agree. He was having none of it. He was in the mentally of the times back then. Patton
@@Kyle-2020 to be fair Post traumatic stress syndrome was not widely known or recognized back then . 1940’s mental health was still in the dark ages as far as warfare was concerned
Patton was a very complicated man. He ran the gamut of emotions in just minutes. This is typical of geniuses. Patton would pray earnestly and then swear for 5 minutes straight without repeating the same word. In the movie, when the German Lieutenant was informing Rommel of Pattons' character and temperament, at one point he stopped and could see Rommel looking defeated. Rommel knew that he met his match.
You make an excellent point. He should never have been out in the open like that.
I'm honored to be included in a comment section with so many war heroes who understand so well the physical and psychological toll of modern warfare. Unlike most of the cowards in this comment sections, he actually joined the army to fight a war. I hate humanity...
I fought. I have nothing but disdain for cowards. Stuttering and crying about mortar shells and getting shot at. Be a goddamned man, or go home.
Wasn’t there a draft in world war 2? Most didn’t have a choice.
Tyler Brennon not much of a choice when they’re drafted. You chose to join up and that’s great for you but a lot of people don’t have that in them. Especially when they’re forced. Maybe understand that before you go around casting judgement. Those same drafted soldiers in Vietnam were called baby killers and came back from a war and their government abandoned them. Sometimes it’s a choice and sometimes it’s not. Just saying that.
@@darklordojeda Human nature is naturally violent; killing is literally what we are programmed to do from birth.
Don't hate yourself bro, hating humanity isn't a solution. The problem is, most of the UA-cam comments today were acting like Reddit and Facebook talker like jerks. If you have problem like this, you better seek some help rather than typing some burdern. This is Patton movie, not some real life.
There is more to the story.....During the invasion of Italy Major General George Allen was in charge of the Big Red One Division (Which was part of the II Corp That Patton led). And some of the men of the units started to desert. Patton called the Allen of the 1st Division and asked for a SITREP..General Allen told him that his division is "thinning out" in some places (meaning they lost man power and not all of it was from physical battle wounds)...Patton figured that the men were deserting and seeing Private Charles Kuhl wearing the Big Red One Patch and not seeing any physical wounds sealed his fate pretty much. (Same for Pvt. Bennet. The other soldier who was slapped)
I knew the late Tim Considine and his un-late older brother, John. They were Hollywood royalty. Their father, John Considine, Sr. was one of the great producers at MGM, "Boys' Town", "Edison the Man" and other classics. They would share their experiences of "learning to swim in the big outdoor pool at the Hearst Ranch" and other memories of growing up on the MGM lot.
He did nothing as an adult.
Fun fact: The shell-shocked soldier was played by Tim Considine, who also played the oldest son Mike on the TV show My Three Sons. He left the show about halfway through its run.
I also like the part right before this scene begins when he is talking to a wounded fellow statesman who said he was hit in the chest. And patton replied that the last German he saw didn't have any chest. Didn't have a head either
That's right. That was something.
Patton had a personal camera and sometimes took snaps of German corpses. It is said that postwar he claimed that the USA had been fighting the wrong enemy but at the time he was enthusiastic enough about killing Germans.
Hi, "Audacity, audacity, always audacity." Patton lived by this credo.!!!!!
I remember we had a young soldier cry in Afghanistan that he couldn’t take it anymore. Cried so hard we had to send him back home to behavioral health. All the way up to deployment he bragged about deploying. He embarrassed his platoon the company, his ncos and his unit.
The soldier that got slapped was Tim Considine of Spin and Marty Disney shorts and a The Shaggy Dog. Played the role of Mike Douglas as the elder son on My Three Sons.
This is the greatest seen in this movie!
*scene
When America built strong men.
The guy sitting on the bed who got slapped, was he strong?
No. There's always an exception piece of junk like you in the mix. If you weaklings didn't exist real men wouldn't have to be if it is up to people like you you'd hand over your whole family's and your guts on a platter to whoever asked you for it. You goddamn coward @@marknorris1381
Most people don't know Patton actually almost had a nervous breakdown during WW1
And he had gone to an astrologer in New York during the 1930s (in addition to reincarnation, Patton also believed in Astrology). The astrologer told him that there would in fact be another world war, and he would be leading men in combat during that war. The astrologer also told him that he would not live long after the war- that if he were to make his mark, militarily speaking, it would have to be so during this conflict.
Psychological injuries due to prolonged combat and being shelled are no less real than physical injuries. Patton's behavior was wrong and Eisenhower was right in dressing down Patton for slapping a soldier.
incorrect. good thing you’re no general. patton was right and should have done more. in war time a man should never choose himself over victory
@@DrazzBreh then why don't you go and fight in Ukraine war. After all, a man should never choose himself over victory right?
Correct. Having had both serious physical injuries and PTSD from separate incidents I rate the PTSD as worse.
Patton: "Send him to the front!"
Patton: *Stands so far away from a battle that he needs binoculars to see it.*
Queen is always behind the pawn ,but that doesn't mean pawns are stronger than it
He's a 4 star General. He is way closer than most, much more valuable to the war effort and lived up as close as anyone 1000's of times.
he served in the front during ww1 and was injured by an artillery shell but refused to receive medical treatment until he finished his advance.
bravery comes from motivation and inspiration you dont traumatize someone who is already traumatized.
A. Rahman nope, your a full grown man in WAR... theres NO time for one on one counseling and/or cry time. Theres men and woman who died from bravery... you dont DARE cry out of fear when you havent even been wounded. General Patton fought many battles and seen it all... hes right, NO cowards belong in the army
@@ikaikaxkeahi when you see your fellow soldiers get bombed to pieces and have been shot up, it’s enough to make even the strongest of men cry.
@@ikaikaxkeahi You obviously never been to war
A killer g4is !!
Damn! Somebody has a serious anger management problem! 😂
What would Patton think about PTSD............
+john moore "Coward's way out..." That's what he would think.
+john moore he'd slap the shit out of it
+john moore He'd probably slap a lot of people. And accomplish nothing through it
+Mihai You're an idiot.
Waffen SS no PTSD. We nearly beat you on the Bulge if it was not for Pattons wrath- you've grown soft. He was the only general we truly feared as he hated weaklings like us as burdens and maligners.
RIP Tim Constantine who played the soldier Patton slapped around. He played on ‘My Three Sons’ also.
Watch this video, then UA-cam Patton’s real voice, then come back to this video…
General! he has PTSD. Nobody knew about it then. Little knowledge is a dangerous thing. I am glad he did not shoot him. Seems like Patton himself was under lot of stress. I had young US Marine patients like that in Vietnam in 1969. They told me Doc! "I have' battle rattle'. I can't take it". I knew exactly what they were talking about. I kept them in the hospital till their condition improved or referred them to Psychiatrist. We had 6 psychiatrists at our Field hospital, in Danang. Four of the psychiatrists were housed in the same hootch I was. All of them were under terrible stress due to rocket constantly flying overhead and threats of ground invasion by Viet-Cong. I as surgeon gave these psychiatrists, therapy/ counselling, and it did work. It brought back smiles on their faces. I as a surgeon was trained to have cool nerves. I think in boot camps, they should be instructed, how to handle stress.
George C. Scott was only 42 when this was made, but he looked about 60.
David Jones drinking
David Jones huh I wonder why. It can’t possibly be because he’s playing a 60 year old man...
@@comradecommissar311 Scott was a violent drunk, by some accounts: maybe the booze made him look old.
"Patton asks him what his problem is, and the soldier tells him his nerves are shot. Instead of reacting with the compassion of the life-giving King who knows what his men are up against, Patton flies into a rage and slaps the soldier across the face, calls him a coward, humiliates and abuses him, and sends him from the hospital to the front lines. Though he does not know it, what he has seen is the face of his own hidden fear and weakness projected onto another. He has glimpsed the Weakling within."
Imagine if Patton seen a stress card in his army lmfao
Patton would’ve torn up that stress card and threw it in that soldier’s face. Lol
Those aren’t real
Wow, what a great performance from George C Scott.
Superb acting
Patton was the only coward i see here
Patton may have been eccentric, and he was in the wrong during this incident, but calling him a coward is just plain dumb. The man had balls made of iron.
Out of all the epic scenes in patton this one is my favourite
It's one of the greatest scenes in cinematic history. Patton goes from being deeeply moved, almost to tears at the sacrifice made by a wounded soldier; then when he comes across the soldier with PTSD, he goes completely berserk. This scene is a master class in acting; Scott throroughly deserved the Oscar for Best Actor.
Excellent description of this scene. Spot on.
What the movie leaves out is that the soldier had malaria, and that Patton kicked him.
Seeing this video pop up on UA-cam now makes me think about Band of Brothers. Specifically the scene where Buck Compton is taken off the defensive lines of Bastogne for "a bad case of trenchfoot."
I just love all these comments from people safely behind their computer screens.
Great acting. Masterpiece.
About the real slapping incident, the German general in the movie said it best:
"You really think they will sacrifice the best fieldcommander they have on account of a little slap around the ear? Think again!"
Patton was just an average general.
Poor George. Didn't know he was human and suffered with the same things all humans suffer with. RIP.
This scene really brings to life what happened in Sicily. For those who have studied George S. Patton, this outburst almost ended his career, but General Eisenhower dismissed the incident, due to the fact that they had to win the war in Europe, and Patton was the key to doing so.
Caleb Crites he didn’t dismiss the incident. It cost his career dearly. Patton was not the key to anything. He was a valuable commander for breakthrough operations, hardly critical.
This was one of the final straws in Patton’s reputation with Ike. There’s a reason he didn’t land on dday. And no he wasn’t key to the war… it would’ve been won just the same if he didn’t exist.
I think what gets swept under the rug is the politics of it.
We talk about how northern generals in the Civil War were political and undermining eachother and so on. What would make ww2 any different?
At the time to any general it would be clear that the allies were going to win and whoever was in charge when it happened and got the glory would have garenteed political success after the war. Eisenhower became president for example.
Patton's success would have put a target on his back to his rivals. They'd see if they could get him removed and them placed in his position they'd be the new winner and glory getter.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if we found some evidence eventually that some rival of Patton paid the reporters to report the story so much.
It also seems odd that during ww2, when the media was censored and supposed to focus on victories, was allowed to even run so much with this story. You'd think someone at the censors would say "Patton is too important to our war effort to have this story printed."
Instead it seems the opposite. Seems like someone higher up pushed the story to be wider spread and a big deal.
I'm not downplaying what Patton did but let's be honest this was ww2 and this sort of thing would have been censored unless someone wanted Patton gone.
Should've ended it and put him in prison.
What did Patton actually DO? He was kept out of DDay because he was thought incompetent; he drove a few miles unopposed and then besieged Metz - which was pointless because it was both empty and irrelevant; he failed to seal the Ardennes pocket; he fought to major battles at all; he died in a car crash.
So what’s all the fuss about?
To have lived among such men, I can only imagine ………. the glory.
YOU GODDAMN COWARDDDD!
lol
That look on his face is the same look my dad would get when he'd get pissed off...
Bart Simpson actually did this in the "Bart The General" episode of The Simpsons
We need him now, more than ever.
We need a borderline insane general?
You see the most accurate depiction of his character and yet you still praise this pos? You’d probably ride for McArthur too, or General Curtis “bombs away” Lemay…
He was trying to keep America great and he did
A bit over 20% of troops suffered shell shock in WWII. There were speciality hospitals that were established to treat shell shock and men would be sent to these hospitals rather than traditional hospitals . These hospitals had some success treating men so they could return to active duty, but many others were not able to function in active duty after treatment. They would be transferred back to US or other places away from combat. Shell shock affected every branch of the military ! A person can research how shell shock was treated , it's very interesting. Even Patton had a break down visiting a concentration camp, when he runs out , with his hand over his mouth !!
Patton was right when he said we fought the wrong enemy... we need men like Patton now more than ever
Pattons only value was on the battlefield. Once the fighting was done he had no worth anymore. Of course he wanted anotger war. He wasnt the type to sit idly in retirement.
Tgsnt
Oh yes..better late than never..and the ucranians are outstanding.
Patton, Eisenhower, McArthur, Bradley, George Marshall, and others were all protégés of Gen. John “Black Jack” Pershing during WWI
I feel like he doesn’t get enough credit for that so I thought I’d mention it here
This scene reminds me of a similar scene in Stanley Kubricks Paths of Glory (1957) where a French general strikes a shell shocked soldier a couple of times.
This is probably where Kubrick got the idea. Maybe it's a bit of an homage.
@@ObscuredByTime - Paths of Glory was filmed in 1957. Patton was released in 1969. It is not a homage to Franklin Schaffner's film.
@@ObscuredByTime No fue asi, Kubrick baso la trama de su película "Senderos de Gloria" de un infame general francés de la primera guerra mundial
his hand is a certified therapist with a PhD in therapy
This scene is actually based on two separate slapping incidents.
Patton was extremely ignorant to the effects of PTSD I think he was a great leader and military tactician and strategist especially in motivating his men to work as a team but where he really screwed up was letting his ego control him and also not taking into account the internal wounds as men are suffering not just the physical ones. At least Ike Eisenhower chewed his ass out for doing this and Patton to his credit apologized.
I think one of the reasons why Patton was ignorant of PTSD was simply because he felt that most soldiers should be like him. He had seen his share of battle in WWI and came out the way he did, with even more of a fire for battle, and when he saw someone cower, even young men, he took it as cowardice.
the Issue with "Combat fatigue" is that it is real but is very easy to fake. also it develops faster in weaker people and slowly in stronger people.
one problem is that the more you allow people to leave the more people will leave. the more you allow PTSD to become and excuse to escape combat the more you will have people use it.
That's why you have an actual psychiatrist diagnose it.
Indy Wanderer ,I disliked Eisenhower, that bastard sent thousands of men into action yet had never been in combat himself , he should have never been in command of the US army , as Monty said he is not a proper soldier,
He wasn't, but he did his main job very well: trying to keep Brits and Yanks together for the duration of the war.
Patton was right - we "fought the wrong enemy".
Spoken like someone who doesn’t care to know history (or who knows it and yet would be happy to help the Wehrmacht and ss, etc. in their aggressive war).
So, either ignorant, or the lowest of the low deluded criminal
@@vhufeosqap They were fighting a defensive war.
Patton said, "SS means no more in Germany than being a Democrat in America."
This is how I run my wow guild
Major General Smedly Butler knew the toll that battle took on the mind.
RIP George c scott
George "I slap the PTSD out of my soldiers" Patton