I'm a middle aged woman current living in a small apartment in Dallas, Texas and your videos bring me so much pleasure. I used to have a house and one of the pleasures I had while married was working on projects in the garage. I brought me joy to find things that just needed a little work before they became part of my life. Thank you for your videos!
I'm a middle-age man in NE Colorado. I totally understand. My ex and I liked doing the same thing. I still do. I have a MCM end table I'm giving some TLC to and a chair my chiropractor used as a saw horse amd got with the saw. Lol
@@montyholland3357 Man I miss it! I wish so much I had even a patio area for smaller projects. The smell of sawdust is like the smell of fresh cut grass... smells that just make you feel good!
Why do I love your videos? Not just your calm, soothing voice, but also the tap tap tap of the hammer. The hum of the Dremel. The headless Minneapolitans walking by. The beautiful results. It's a good day to watch a Dashner video.
the time between sounds is like perfect. Many videos today is constant stimulation with no silence. These have nice silent breaks after talking that are so peaceful
It took me three tries to finish this because it was so relaxing I kept falling asleep. I dig keeping the worn look, especially the stencil on the bottom, preserves its character.
I admire your courage and confidence in taking things apart, knowing you will be able to put them back together again. For some reason, I can’t seem to overcome that fear. It’s part of why I keep watching.
Since I was employed by a church all of my working life, this chair immediately caught my attention. I have spent many worship services sitting in chairs that looked just like this. I think that this is the first time that I have differed with you on the extent of a restoration. I would have preferred that you took this chair closer to its original look, I have to say that I still like how it looked after you completed it. Thanks for posting this. Stay safe.
I agree with you to an extent, Eddie. I think that I would have repaired the finish damage on the bottom seat where it looks like somebody sat a bucket or something. But then carried out the rest conserving the finish and repairing as was done in the video. .
@@Shane-Singleton I bet a plant used to sit on that chair. Round circle and water damage: I recognize that look too easily from my own life lessons on plants and furniture.
My Daddy who did so many and beautiful refinishing projects did a chair like this. I treasure so much. I love your channel & always think of Daddy when watching💕
What a sweet piece. So much character, with its wear. My dad "evangelized" a lot in the 70's, and before these types of chairs were replaced with metal folding chairs, we visited a lot of churches with rec halls filled with these.
The secret to getting the nail out without hurting anything: press a hot soldering iron to the nail. Let it heat until smoking (it may take a while depending on your tip and if it has a good blob of tin to conduct heat). The nail will conduct the heat and burn its way free. Works wonders on ring-shank nails and stuff in pallet wood. If you plan to sand a bit a map torch will get really stubborn nails that are poking through the material in a hurry. This isn't great for finishing nails with heads below the surface, but it does make it a lot easier for the ones you can get a tiny bit of purchase on.
I was amused with this project because I am from Michigan, about 30 miles from St. Peters. I always called these chairs finger pinchers, because the are so awkward to fold.
I was so glad to see that you kept the stenciled name of the church on the chair. My uncle worked on a project and aquired several of those style chairs. Always came in handy during family gatherings. As usual your videos never disappoint, thanks again.
Thanks for helping to dull the dreariness of staying at home. Hope your garage has lots more goodies in store. Thanks for sharing another great video. Keep it up and stay safe. ATB
Its fun to see you focus more on the structural integrity of a project that needs to work as intended not just look brand new. Comment for the algorithm.
Hi. Nice job on that sweet chair. I am in England, also in lockdown and mending furniture that's been hanging around awhile. Yesterday a mid-century teak coffee table, today two vintage vintners stools. Tomorrow it might be that 1960s wooden sofa frame that I've been bumping into for months... it'll be a beauty. Keep up the good work!
@@DashnerDesignRestoration LOL I am doing the same with the food in my freezer. This is a great opportunity to "clean house". ... from Oakville Ontario
I have an amazing MCM coffee table I'm restoring and a chair. THANKS to your channel I've gotten back the urge to restore furniture again. My ex and I used to all the time. Kinda lost the desire afterwards, ya know. THANKS for a wonderful project 😊.
I love your video. This is just like the chairs in my home church, built in 1950. I had just thought about these old chairs a few weeks ago and wondered if they are still used or where I could find some from my WV church. I now live in GA. Glad you have restored one like the ones I remember. Thank you.
You know dude, if you are having some trouble finding stuff to make a video on you could do some on tool upkeep and refurbishment, I'm sure you have some things laying around that could be sharpened or taken apart and oiled/lubed up etc.
I've been subscribed to your channel for some time now because I've always enjoyed your calm vocalization of your thought process and your steady ingenuity and deliberate drive to finish each project. But now in these times of distress, it is cathartic-like and calming to watch your videos. Thanks. "I didn't want to force it to be square, I just wanted it to take whatever shape felt the most natural . . . so I just let it be as it wanted to be."
Watching your channel feels like watching National Geographic....VINTAGEWOOD.... And then there's your Majestic voice, without any deafening Artificial Music... So Pure & Blissful. 😍
Yay! Dasher Dan 😀 made my day. I've watched all your videos and learned a lot. I'm doing a mcm coffee table right now - taking apart and applying wood glue and clamps!
i love the way you can feel that everything he does is planned out and done with intent, both his explanations and his projects. you can tell he is an artisan that knows his medium. that combined with his calming voice makes this one of my favorite channels.
This project made me so happy! It is a lovely refresh to make this old chair useful again without losing any of its worn charm. I like the practice of celebrating defects, and probably because this project does that particularly well, I think it's my favorite piece from you to date.
I often use wire cutters to pull a nail instead of pliers. The pointed ends will fit down into the hole to get some grab, and also they cut into the nail a bit for extra bite to get it out. I enjoy your channel .
When I was a kid my uncle had a huge old Victorian home. As he got older a lot of it was closed to maintain a smaller living area for him and my aunt. In what was the grand dining room, against the wall stood 6 or 8 of those exact chairs. Funny, I hadn't thought of that in years. Thanks for the memories :)
I love that you kept the character of the chair! Some pieces need to be fully restored, but this was one with a lot of charm in the wear and tear. Looks great!
I also appreciate an object that also tells a little bit of a story. One could look at this chair and see the history of this chair. I believe the reason that churches prefered to use this chair because it gave you a sense of eternity the longer that you sat in one of those. I imagine when the chair broke they just disposed of it to anybody that wanted it. Finally to do service as a plant stand because it looked interesting. Did you want to tell you that in some instances the chairmakers would pin their rungs to help hold the set of the joint because glues took longer to dry back then. Thanks for the great content.
So great to see the preservation of wood furniture. Those of us that love wood really admire the clever ways you approach preserving vintage wood furniture.
I didn't realize until the end of the video what the print on the chair said - I was extremely surprised to see St Clair! I was born in a hospital less than a mile from that church but was immediately adopted by a family in Pennsylvania. Such an odd coincidence as I've been watching your videos for at least a year now!
Unintentionally ASMR. I love your videos. They are informative and so great to watch. I love the history. Your voice over is so soothing. Asmr for sure. Great stuff all around. Keep up the great work!!
Thank you for sharing, Mr. Dashner. I concur with your decision to "let it do what it wanted." I would have given the seat just a little more TLC to tone down whatever that circle is on the seat, though.
An old classic solidly made chair that's seen it's fair share of use! Thanks for bringing it back to life.... I see another 50 years of use in its future!
Just wanted to say thanks for posting. You're videos are informational, entertaining and soothing. And you inspired me to redo a project that had been sitting for a long time. Thanks.
What a pleasure to watch. You are an artist. I loved that chair. I would buy it in a heartbeat. I'm sure you have plenty of goodies laying around your garage. Keep those videos rolling! 😄😄😄
Your patience is to be admired. I love the time you take to do such a through job. I think I would have called it quits when you found those dowels had been nailed. Learned so much from your videos
Nice project. Turned out great. Now I am going to be looking for an old wooden chair that needs some love for my next project. Interestingly it would have not have taken much more time to strip the old finish back to bare wood and give it a fresh look with a new finish. Thanks for taking the time and effort to video and post this.
The chair turned out great and I love the colour. With the broken rods on the back I'd suggest you split them on the line of the brad. Pull out the two halves and then with pointy-nose pliers grab the brad in the hole and pry it up. It would save carving out the wood to grab the brad. Also the brads might have been in the original construction which negated the use of clamps and drying time. Keep up the wonderful restorations.
To get those nails out holding the dowels in, did you consider driving it straight through with a nail set? I’ve found this technique works well. When enough of the nail sticks out the other side you can grab it with vise grips and twist as you pull. If you’re afraid of blowing out the other side you can back it up with a block of wood. Sometimes heating the nail by touching a soldering iron to it for a second or two help also. The finished product turned out nice, thanks.
To remove the nail, cut the dowel flush; drill the dowel in the center and through the nail and remove the dowel stump until the hole is empty, except for whatever remains of the nail. Now you have access to the nail from the inside of the hole. You can grab the nail in the hole with narrow pointed pliers and push it out instead of pulling it.
I love your philosophy of just letting the chair "be who it wants to be" :) I wonder if a little spot welder or soldering iron could be used to attach another piece of metal to the nail for some pulling purchase. I've seen this done on metal machinery when bolt heads break off.
Good job! And I think you made a good call by reinforcing the chair and mostly leaving the cosmetics alone. It looks great, and I like the block lettering on the back. Thanks for sharing. Hope you are safe and healthy!
Hi thanks for the video, I would have liked if you cleaned up those spots on the seat because it would make it look much better while still keeping the vintage look. Keep up the great content!
Those dowels certainly needed a lot of work. Great job and the gel stain matched perfectly. Here's hoping you find all kinds of gems like this in your garage. Best to you and yours
Suggestion: get yourself a pair of diagonal wire cutters. You can grab just the tip of the head of the nail and level it upward pretty easily. They will hold far better than a pair of pliers, and you don't have to dig out near as much around the head (usually nothing) to get the nail out.
New subscriber in Apple Valley here! Your videos are so relaxing, so satisfying, and so lovely. I appreciate you putting out a video despite thrifting being a non-option! Thank you for sharing your work! ❤️
I have learned a lot on your channel and after years now I can do things much easier and correctly! I quest you can teach an old dog new tricks! Thanks ✌️☮️😎
I'm a middle aged woman current living in a small apartment in Dallas, Texas and your videos bring me so much pleasure. I used to have a house and one of the pleasures I had while married was working on projects in the garage. I brought me joy to find things that just needed a little work before they became part of my life. Thank you for your videos!
That makes me happy to hear. Thank you!
I'm a middle-age man in NE Colorado. I totally understand. My ex and I liked doing the same thing. I still do. I have a MCM end table I'm giving some TLC to and a chair my chiropractor used as a saw horse amd got with the saw. Lol
@@montyholland3357
Man I miss it! I wish so much I had even a patio area for smaller projects. The smell of sawdust is like the smell of fresh cut grass... smells that just make you feel good!
Sawdust is one of the best scents in the world.
I tell everyone he's the bob ross of furniture repair. Lol
Why do I love your videos? Not just your calm, soothing voice, but also the tap tap tap of the hammer. The hum of the Dremel. The headless Minneapolitans walking by. The beautiful results.
It's a good day to watch a Dashner video.
The headless Minnesotans haaaa
So true!
the time between sounds is like perfect. Many videos today is constant stimulation with no silence. These have nice silent breaks after talking that are so peaceful
It took me three tries to finish this because it was so relaxing I kept falling asleep. I dig keeping the worn look, especially the stencil on the bottom, preserves its character.
I admire your courage and confidence in taking things apart, knowing you will be able to put them back together again. For some reason, I can’t seem to overcome that fear. It’s part of why I keep watching.
Since I was employed by a church all of my working life, this chair immediately caught my attention. I have spent many worship services sitting in chairs that looked just like this.
I think that this is the first time that I have differed with you on the extent of a restoration.
I would have preferred that you took this chair closer to its original look, I have to say that I still like how it looked after you completed it. Thanks for posting this. Stay safe.
Maybe someday down the line I’ll do a complete refinish. Thanks for watching and be well.
Huh? He cleaned up. What could make it look more original?
I agree with you to an extent, Eddie. I think that I would have repaired the finish damage on the bottom seat where it looks like somebody sat a bucket or something. But then carried out the rest conserving the finish and repairing as was done in the video. .
@@Shane-Singleton I bet a plant used to sit on that chair. Round circle and water damage: I recognize that look too easily from my own life lessons on plants and furniture.
@@howellomaha I imagine you're probably correct. Seems like that chair would make a fairly unique and cool looking plant stand.
I think my blood pressure just lowered by 20 points after watching this 😌
So true. A great way to relieve stress.
My Daddy who did so many and beautiful refinishing projects did a chair like this. I treasure so much. I love your channel & always think of Daddy when watching💕
"I just let it be how it wanted to be" -words of wisdom said by many before -but every time it is repeated, it sounds refreshing and right.
What a sweet piece. So much character, with its wear. My dad "evangelized" a lot in the 70's, and before these types of chairs were replaced with metal folding chairs, we visited a lot of churches with rec halls filled with these.
It was refreshing to see you do a partial restoration, keeping the worn look of the chair. It helps to show its history. Thanks for sharing!
That’s a great $5 chair! You made it last another 50 years and didn’t change a thing!
The secret to getting the nail out without hurting anything:
press a hot soldering iron to the nail. Let it heat until smoking (it may take a while depending on your tip and if it has a good blob of tin to conduct heat). The nail will conduct the heat and burn its way free. Works wonders on ring-shank nails and stuff in pallet wood. If you plan to sand a bit a map torch will get really stubborn nails that are poking through the material in a hurry.
This isn't great for finishing nails with heads below the surface, but it does make it a lot easier for the ones you can get a tiny bit of purchase on.
how you leave those imperfect things and respect time they have been through. it's kind of humble. I like these.
I was amused with this project because I am from Michigan, about 30 miles from St. Peters. I always called these chairs finger pinchers, because the are so awkward to fold.
Oh my god Yes!
I was so glad to see that you kept the stenciled name of the church on the chair.
My uncle worked on a project and aquired several of those style chairs. Always came in handy during family gatherings.
As usual your videos never disappoint, thanks again.
In my old school building there were chairs that looked a lot like this one. A fine old chair, love the way you treated it 😁🇳🇱
Once again the Bob Ross of furniture. So calm so relaxing.
Thanks for helping to dull the dreariness of staying at home. Hope your garage has lots more goodies in store. Thanks for sharing another great video. Keep it up and stay safe. ATB
Thanks for watching and be well.
Its fun to see you focus more on the structural integrity of a project that needs to work as intended not just look brand new. Comment for the algorithm.
I'm glad you preserved the original finish.
Hi. Nice job on that sweet chair. I am in England, also in lockdown and mending furniture that's been hanging around awhile. Yesterday a mid-century teak coffee table, today two vintage vintners stools. Tomorrow it might be that 1960s wooden sofa frame that I've been bumping into for months... it'll be a beauty. Keep up the good work!
Are you on Instagram? I'd love to see your finished projects.
I've had a really frustrating day and have a blood pressure headache. Your videos are so soothing and inspiring that they have medicinal value!
Nice piece. I hope you have more left in your garage to keep you busy till we get past this.
Thanks, I'm trying to pull stuff out every day.
@@DashnerDesignRestoration LOL I am doing the same with the food in my freezer. This is a great opportunity to "clean house". ... from Oakville Ontario
@@Peggyt-jp6mt Here I thought I was the only Ontarian to discover his channel!
@@VeryHarmonious To be honest, I am not fond of mid century furniture and I dislike red/brown stain but I love listening to his voice.
I have an amazing MCM coffee table I'm restoring and a chair. THANKS to your channel I've gotten back the urge to restore furniture again. My ex and I used to all the time. Kinda lost the desire afterwards, ya know. THANKS for a wonderful project 😊.
I love these types of chairs. Metal and wood are such a nice match.
I love your video. This is just like the chairs in my home church, built in 1950. I had just thought about these old chairs a few weeks ago and wondered if they are still used or where I could find some from my WV church. I now live in GA.
Glad you have restored one like the ones I remember. Thank you.
So pretty, I’m so happy you didn’t strip it and refinish it as it has so much more character this way 💖💖💖
Thank you.
How did I miss this ? Fabulous, wonderful!
I love those old chairs. I hope you’re using it.
I like how you left it looking antique and aged. It's one of those chairs that looks right as it is. 💜
Thanks for watching.
You know dude, if you are having some trouble finding stuff to make a video on you could do some on tool upkeep and refurbishment, I'm sure you have some things laying around that could be sharpened or taken apart and oiled/lubed up etc.
I remember sitting on chairs like that one in Sunday school. And playing with the loose slats. Thanks for the flashback
I've been subscribed to your channel for some time now because I've always enjoyed your calm vocalization of your thought process and your steady ingenuity and deliberate drive to finish each project. But now in these times of distress, it is cathartic-like and calming to watch your videos. Thanks.
"I didn't want to
force it to be square, I just wanted it to take whatever shape felt the most natural . . . so I just let it be as it wanted to be."
The Bob Ross of restoration. Fab!
Watching your channel feels like watching National Geographic....VINTAGEWOOD....
And then there's your Majestic voice, without any deafening Artificial Music... So Pure & Blissful. 😍
Yay! Dasher Dan 😀 made my day. I've watched all your videos and learned a lot. I'm doing a mcm coffee table right now - taking apart and applying wood glue and clamps!
Have fun with your project. Thanks for watching!
That males two of us. I'm doing a MCM coffee table I found curbside.
i love the way you can feel that everything he does is planned out and done with intent, both his explanations and his projects. you can tell he is an artisan that knows his medium.
that combined with his calming voice makes this one of my favorite channels.
This project made me so happy! It is a lovely refresh to make this old chair useful again without losing any of its worn charm. I like the practice of celebrating defects, and probably because this project does that particularly well, I think it's my favorite piece from you to date.
I often use wire cutters to pull a nail instead of pliers. The pointed ends will fit down into the hole to get some grab, and also they cut into the nail a bit for extra bite to get it out. I enjoy your channel .
Another great job. Glad you didn't change the old look.
Great job, love that you kept the history on the surface. Great chair.
When I was a kid my uncle had a huge old Victorian home. As he got older a lot of it was closed to maintain a smaller living area for him and my aunt. In what was the grand dining room, against the wall stood 6 or 8 of those exact chairs. Funny, I hadn't thought of that in years. Thanks for the memories :)
I love how you are thrifting in your own garage.
I love that you kept the character of the chair! Some pieces need to be fully restored, but this was one with a lot of charm in the wear and tear. Looks great!
"It's a quiet day in Minneapolis". Wow. It took me aback for a second.
I love that chair and how you cared for it. I enjoy and always learn so much watching your videos. Thank you, and stay safe.
Beautiful job. This is the calming content we all need right now.
❤ these older wooden chairs
Nice! Bet it feels good to finally get to a project piece you purchased over a year ago.
I also appreciate an object that also tells a little bit of a story. One could look at this chair and see the history of this chair. I believe the reason that churches prefered to use this chair because it gave you a sense of eternity the longer that you sat in one of those. I imagine when the chair broke they just disposed of it to anybody that wanted it. Finally to do service as a plant stand because it looked interesting.
Did you want to tell you that in some instances the chairmakers would pin their rungs to help hold the set of the joint because glues took longer to dry back then.
Thanks for the great content.
So great to see the preservation of wood furniture. Those of us that love wood really admire the clever ways you approach preserving vintage wood furniture.
I didn't realize until the end of the video what the print on the chair said - I was extremely surprised to see St Clair! I was born in a hospital less than a mile from that church but was immediately adopted by a family in Pennsylvania. Such an odd coincidence as I've been watching your videos for at least a year now!
Unintentionally ASMR. I love your videos. They are informative and so great to watch. I love the history. Your voice over is so soothing. Asmr for sure. Great stuff all around. Keep up the great work!!
Nice how the new rod blends in .. well done! Beautiful chair.
Thank you for sharing, Mr. Dashner. I concur with your decision to "let it do what it wanted." I would have given the seat just a little more TLC to tone down whatever that circle is on the seat, though.
An old classic solidly made chair that's seen it's fair share of use! Thanks for bringing it back to life.... I see another 50 years of use in its future!
So satisfying, seeing you pulling these nails out of the wood... quite freeing.
Just wanted to say thanks for posting. You're videos are informational, entertaining and soothing. And you inspired me to redo a project that had been sitting for a long time. Thanks.
You are an amazing woodworker - my father would do projects like this ❣️ love watching your talent
I love how soothing these videos are and it always makes me happy to see a new one posted, thank you 😊
What a pleasure to watch. You are an artist. I loved that chair. I would buy it in a heartbeat.
I'm sure you have plenty of goodies laying around your garage. Keep those videos rolling! 😄😄😄
I love this chair. What a great find. Awesome work.❤❤❤
Nice restoration, I like you kept the roughed look, not everything have to look like new. 👍👍👍
Beautiful restoration, favourite chair so far, I wish I could have it in my house 🥰
Your patience is to be admired. I love the time you take to do such a through job. I think I would have called it quits when you found those dowels had been nailed. Learned so much from your videos
I just love this idea of reusing and repairing old things, even if they're not fancy. Never stop!
Nice project. Turned out great. Now I am going to be looking for an old wooden chair that needs some love for my next project. Interestingly it would have not have taken much more time to strip the old finish back to bare wood and give it a fresh look with a new finish. Thanks for taking the time and effort to video and post this.
6:17 The woodpecker in the background makes me so happy.
(Yes, I play these videos over and over, just for my listening pleasure!)
I love to thrift for wood projects I just dont have the camera nor voice to perfectly narrate the progress. Good work dude!
The chair turned out great and I love the colour. With the broken rods on the back I'd suggest you split them on the line of the brad. Pull out the two halves and then with pointy-nose pliers grab the brad in the hole and pry it up. It would save carving out the wood to grab the brad. Also the brads might have been in the original construction which negated the use of clamps and drying time. Keep up the wonderful restorations.
To get those nails out holding the dowels in, did you consider driving it straight through with a nail set? I’ve found this technique works well. When enough of the nail sticks out the other side you can grab it with vise grips and twist as you pull. If you’re afraid of blowing out the other side you can back it up with a block of wood. Sometimes heating the nail by touching a soldering iron to it for a second or two help also. The finished product turned out nice, thanks.
To remove the nail, cut the dowel flush; drill the dowel in the center and through the nail and remove the dowel stump until the hole is empty, except for whatever remains of the nail. Now you have access to the nail from the inside of the hole. You can grab the nail in the hole with narrow pointed pliers and push it out instead of pulling it.
Almost looks like a campaign chair. Nice resto.
Sometimes less is more. Thanks for the calm and easy-going mood that your videos set. It’s especially nice during the quarantine. Be well.
Man I love watching you work.
I'm sure I heard a woodpecker in the background , he sounded impressed 👍😁
I love your philosophy of just letting the chair "be who it wants to be" :)
I wonder if a little spot welder or soldering iron could be used to attach another piece of metal to the nail for some pulling purchase. I've seen this done on metal machinery when bolt heads break off.
We had chairs like this when I was younger. Brings back memories of pitching my fingers when we had to close them.
You are a true craftsman! Great job!
"I just let it be as it wanted to be" - good teaching moment for life
Please never change how you edit these videos.
I love your talented projects' results, and it goes without saying, your relaxing and comforting voice.
Hope you can find more projects to keep us all entertained during all these fun times ! Thanks for the video!
Your voice is given me Bob Ross vibes. Love it!
Good job! And I think you made a good call by reinforcing the chair and mostly leaving the cosmetics alone. It looks great, and I like the block lettering on the back.
Thanks for sharing.
Hope you are safe and healthy!
wow such a beautiful chair
Love those sash clamps!
Hi thanks for the video, I would have liked if you cleaned up those spots on the seat because it would make it look much better while still keeping the vintage look. Keep up the great content!
Thanks for another great video. Your content is always interesting, and your voice is always soothing.
Thanks for the great video. I learn something new every time.
Those dowels certainly needed a lot of work. Great job and the gel stain matched perfectly. Here's hoping you find all kinds of gems like this in your garage. Best to you and yours
Suggestion: get yourself a pair of diagonal wire cutters. You can grab just the tip of the head of the nail and level it upward pretty easily. They will hold far better than a pair of pliers, and you don't have to dig out near as much around the head (usually nothing) to get the nail out.
Really enjoyed your commentary, no lecturing. The restoration was very sympathetic. Thanks for the video.
New subscriber in Apple Valley here! Your videos are so relaxing, so satisfying, and so lovely. I appreciate you putting out a video despite thrifting being a non-option! Thank you for sharing your work! ❤️
Another neat job. Thanks. Stay safe.
Love your chill vibe, guy.
I have learned a lot on your channel and after years now I can do things much easier and correctly! I quest you can teach an old dog new tricks! Thanks ✌️☮️😎
Keeping the character of the chair is nice.
Stay safe Mr. Dasher. 👍
That is a really nice chair.
My new favourite channel
Your channel is addictive!