What i do sometimes is grind down the rivets and then take a wide flathead screwdriver and put it between the plate and link and just hammer at it. Takes like 4 minutes. You can do this while its still on the bike.
Just did this for the first time. Instead of the flat metal use you smallest socket. It fits over the rivet but hits the edge of the link perfectly. 360 degrees of contact. Nail punch and 3 hits, out.
Well tour Dad’s method works well. If the chain is stuck Thru the bike frame, different story. Also, your example shows how easy it is to compromise the links next to the one being removed, so wishing you had emphasized this point. Please don’t take me wrong, I appreciate you for posting this. Happy riding.
This is the best video for understanding how to break chains. Epically those of us who are new to this kind of thing. I was using a chainbreaker and was ruining the chain because those pins need to be ground down FIRST. Just did it your way and all is good. Thank You very much for your post!
I remember 40 years ago having small chain splitter with half link and master wraped around my kick starter on my shovel head had to use on round and sure glad I had it if I remember they weren't expensive
All you need is and over sized nut underneath no grinding and hit it and it come out same as if your using a chain breaker which I do have ,no extra link needed .
Thanks man for the video. I thought I was doing it correctly but it wasn't breaking free until I put the chain on the floor like you did. love the How to videos
I have never used a grinder to flatten the rivets. I have a block of aluminum with a hole drilled in it. I set the rivet head in the hole or over it and take a hammer and hit it with the sit of the hammer head. Then use a punch to finish it.
This is one of those jobs where you want to go easy with the grinder. Too much pressure and you can melt the two pieces together and make punching the rivet through more difficult. There have been times when I didn't have a nut for a screw so I pulled out my grinder and used it to melt the screw to the metal I was working on (don't use this on critical components obviously).
Instead of punching the pins out, Put the chain on the sprocket get a old flat head screwdriver that has a smaller tip than the length of the pins and hit it with a hammer (after grinding the rivets off) will take less time its what we used to do in a motorcycle shop i used to work in its quite time effective
heres how to get it apart and reuse the thing... first get a hammer and a hammer and a small nail (not TOO small) then put the links in a vice and use the hammer and sail to hammer it apart. you can use the vice to compress them almost all the way then flip the chain over and use the hammer and nail to hammer it through the whole way... then your done!
Great video i have a Polaris Trail boss 325 ATV and it worked perfect!! I kept trying to tighten my chain but i would not tighten so i tried this and it worked!!! Thanks!!
Did the same about a month ago. But all I had was a hand drill. And some Dremel bits. Yeah truly not upload worthy. Thanks for posting, you made it look so easy. Aloha
Okay like 4 months ago I had to take a link from my dirtbike chain. Let's just say I used a blow torch, a grinder, a screw driver, and a sledge hammer and couldn't get it done. So I went and bought a $15 chain breaker and took me 5 minutes. Don't ask why I used a blow torch.
I had to grind the piece to a very thin before it started moving. with this method it's a must to uninstall the chain before because the work is bit aggressive. but it a working method.
I replaced the thermostat on a friend of mine Mazda Tribute today. One bolt was soo tight that i snapped a small bone in my hand because of the tork i made with the wrench... It made a big noise when it snapped. My friend heard it from the other side of the garage! Actually the bolt was holding stronger then my bone!
WHAT!?! Sounds like a good way to destroy a case half.... Not worth being a cheap @$$, a master link for a couple bucks is definitely worth the peace of mind, a set of cases will set you back several hundred!
jbsleddin actually its stronger than the original links because its permanently welded together and cant come off from wear and tear. I seen the factory links and master links break or come apart before.
jbsleddin yeah but it also depends where you live, I welded them back together but prefer master links. The nearest store that sells master links is 30 min away. Local tractor dealerships also never had small enough
And one douche bag (so far) that can not even appreciate a bit of good advice like this. I bought a workshop chain splitter last year, and it is worth the investment - even if you use it once a year - especially for chains that is not "linked". I should have done it 25years ago when I started riding bikes.. - but then again - links was the norm.. (back in the day, as you like to point out)
Yeah this is a good point to make though that the poster should have probably made that if it's an O ring chain you shouldn't do this as you will destroy the o rings with the heat.
Doesn't have fancy tools even to this day then pulls out an electric grinder haha
Snitch bae I came here to type this exact, comment lol wtf
Why would a grinder be a fancy tool xD its a basic home tool
Lol, if you think a grinders a fancy tool, you likely pay to have your work done.
16 bucks at harbor freight and you’re set
@@seandoucette2125 18 volt makita is in my tool bag ready to go haha
Back in the day we had a stone mounted in a electric drill! Worked fine before angle grinders were $9 and lasted as long as a Big Mac.
What i do sometimes is grind down the rivets and then take a wide flathead screwdriver and put it between the plate and link and just hammer at it. Takes like 4 minutes. You can do this while its still on the bike.
BlackLinesMatter this helped so much. Thank you
I used to do it this way...but you gotta love a Motion Pro chain breaker...
Best ending almost ever.
you and your fancy smancy grinder, i hand file my links apart!! LOL
*sure you do!!!*
I'm dead serious!!! A hand file and a punch in th vise!
Chuckie25 grinders are like $30 these days. Decent files are almost that expensive
Maybe he doesn’t have electricity
@@jbouchard4877 im just afraid of grinders, dont know how to properly use them
Just did this for the first time. Instead of the flat metal use you smallest socket. It fits over the rivet but hits the edge of the link perfectly. 360 degrees of contact. Nail punch and 3 hits, out.
Well tour Dad’s method works well. If the chain is stuck Thru the bike frame, different story. Also, your example shows how easy it is to compromise the links next to the one being removed, so wishing you had emphasized this point. Please don’t take me wrong, I appreciate you for posting this. Happy riding.
This is the best video for understanding how to break chains. Epically those of us who are new to this kind of thing. I was using a chainbreaker and was ruining the chain because those pins need to be ground down FIRST. Just did it your way and all is good. Thank You very much for your post!
My Dad never taught me this but just did this last night when my chain breaker broke.
My step dad taught me how to do this last year, it works great!
I remember 40 years ago having small chain splitter with half link and master wraped around my kick starter on my shovel head had to use on round and sure glad I had it if I remember they weren't expensive
All you need is and over sized nut underneath no grinding and hit it and it come out same as if your using a chain breaker which I do have ,no extra link needed .
This is a badass machine so far.
Thanks man for the video. I thought I was doing it correctly but it wasn't breaking free until I put the chain on the floor like you did. love the How to videos
I have never used a grinder to flatten the rivets. I have a block of aluminum with a hole drilled in it. I set the rivet head in the hole or over it and take a hammer and hit it with the sit of the hammer head. Then use a punch to finish it.
That's like climbing mount everest just to see snowfall
"Without any special tools"
Pulls out $80 angle grinder....
I don't even know any other method.
me neither :D
uiiii saatana säki oot ollu tääl 3v sitte! =D
P3t3rG1 hammer and screwdriver between the link
Using a chain breaker
Awesome tip works a charm👌🏼cheers mate
Thanks a lot currently 5am into my build and no stores open so thanks a ton
This is one of those jobs where you want to go easy with the grinder. Too much pressure and you can melt the two pieces together and make punching the rivet through more difficult. There have been times when I didn't have a nut for a screw so I pulled out my grinder and used it to melt the screw to the metal I was working on (don't use this on critical components obviously).
wish my dad would have taught me this! I had to teach myself how to do this haha
Instead of punching the pins out, Put the chain on the sprocket get a old flat head screwdriver that has a smaller tip than the length of the pins and hit it with a hammer (after grinding the rivets off) will take less time its what we used to do in a motorcycle shop i used to work in its quite time effective
I do this all the time with my dad! Well, whenever we have to take a link out of a chain. (Pretty often)
fookin genius, thanks man
heres how to get it apart and reuse the thing... first get a hammer and a hammer and a small nail (not TOO small) then put the links in a vice and use the hammer and sail to hammer it apart. you can use the vice to compress them almost all the way then flip the chain over and use the hammer and nail to hammer it through the whole way... then your done!
“I ain’t got no fancy tools” *pulls out grinder* lmao who gotta grinder at home
I've done that many times to replace the timing chains on many engines.
Good one but I shall be interested to see how you rivet it back together!
Master link
I just figured out a way to attach an angle grinder disk to a drill because my grinder broke and I wanted to try this
Omg this actually worked thank you
ending of the video gave me heart attack !!
your dad gave you a grinder at 12? thought you said no special tools... if I had a grinder I wouldn't need to watch a video
From personal experience I was using grinders on my bikes at 12 without even having a supervisor🤷🏻♂️ lol I was born before these osha parents tho 🤣
Great video i have a Polaris Trail boss 325 ATV and it worked perfect!! I kept trying to tighten my chain but i would not tighten so i tried this and it worked!!! Thanks!!
I haven't got any fancy tools ...
Gets out his grinder. Duh.
I don't have a fancy tool like a grinder, and the chain must be broken in order to remove it from my motorcycle.
Nice quick vid!
Did the same about a month ago. But all I had was a hand drill. And some Dremel bits. Yeah truly not upload worthy.
Thanks for posting, you made it look so easy.
Aloha
Before I had a grinder I used a Robertson screwdriver a vice n a hammer 😂
I followed your exact steps took me 10 minutes lol rocking a smaller sproket
If I had the money for an angle grinder, I’d have the money for a chain breaker. 🤣
Awesome vid and edits and filming and bike
Awesome, thanks mate. All the best, from NZ.
Good stuff as always Groutaone. I just got a Yamaha 450 Dirtbike!!! Yay xD Hope to get good footage to show you our deserts here xD
Keep it up dude :)
Okay like 4 months ago I had to take a link from my dirtbike chain. Let's just say I used a blow torch, a grinder, a screw driver, and a sledge hammer and couldn't get it done. So I went and bought a $15 chain breaker and took me 5 minutes. Don't ask why I used a blow torch.
Needs....more cowbell! Merry Christmas Groutaone!
Am I the only one who totally stressed out by this video?
Same thing i been doing. The 530 basically looks like it has a bigger pin size
Who didnt have a grinder when they were 12!
That's how I did it.
Your way works just as good
Solid work sir
I have a 530 chain.. it's a thick chain for a 150cc go kart
Good, tnx, but bad method... the steel plates should be at the nearest point of the pins or rivets to avoid bending the links
Thank you mate good help 😊
Thank-you very much
Caution headphone wearers --> 0:58 it gets deadly
The thing is you hit the other link with the grinder and now weakened the joining link
Legend 💥
I do the same put i put a socket in the vice and put section of chain over it
I had to grind the piece to a very thin before it started moving. with this method it's a must to uninstall the chain before because the work is bit aggressive. but it a working method.
Old school lol. I've done this a million times
What about the reattaching the new link?
Just buy a friggin breaker jeez that's what ebays there for
So how do you punch it out while it's still on the bike?
my atv has a 420 chain and my biddy has a new 428 chain can i use it without changing sprockets
cant do this while its on the bike though
hate how easy you made this look...
it will be real nice on that rig your building
I replaced the thermostat on a friend of mine Mazda Tribute today. One bolt was soo tight that i snapped a small bone in my hand because of the tork i made with the wrench... It made a big noise when it snapped. My friend heard it from the other side of the garage! Actually the bolt was holding stronger then my bone!
Ive just used 2 screw drivers and hit it with a hammer
Awesome
So will you have 2 master links??
thankyou for your help!!!
I finally didn't learn anything from groutaone ha. Good vid though!
How remove a chain that's already off the bike.
Cool trick
that was an XR 75
@groutaone why did you take down alot of your cr500 videos?
Thanks
Could you not just open the master link, cut the ones off you need then reset the master for free??
Lol I completely wore out my chain in a month
Too tight
hey bud u grind the rivets? I thought u did it with out that?
I just use a vice
If you can use a dremel to grind it down, shouldnt u be able to just put a grind-end or dremel tools on a normal electric screwdriver and just go?
Canadian eh
i tried breaking mine with an axe, didnt work
Never give up
Bolt cutters ftw
i do this all the time but i weld it back on then lube it again thats all, never had it snapping on me yet
WHAT!?! Sounds like a good way to destroy a case half.... Not worth being a cheap @$$, a master link for a couple bucks is definitely worth the peace of mind, a set of cases will set you back several hundred!
jbsleddin
actually its stronger than the original links because its permanently welded together and cant come off from wear and tear. I seen the factory links and master links break or come apart before.
jbsleddin yeah but it also depends where you live, I welded them back together but prefer master links. The nearest store that sells master links is 30 min away. Local tractor dealerships also never had small enough
If it is an "O-ring" chain, the rubber inside will be damaged by the heat from welding. But in an emergency - if that is all you can do, so be it.
jbsleddin ya but the go cart chain i replaced was so old and worn out we just bought a new chain
I busted two pins trying to get my chain apart. I have the grinder but still can’t get the chain apart. Hard to punch when it’s still in the bike.
And one douche bag (so far) that can not even appreciate a bit of good advice like this. I bought a workshop chain splitter last year, and it is worth the investment - even if you use it once a year - especially for chains that is not "linked". I should have done it 25years ago when I started riding bikes.. - but then again - links was the norm.. (back in the day, as you like to point out)
Ik its a old video but, Hammering back togeather kind of strips it out and is kinda loose and my links keeps poping off any tips?
Hammering what back together?
hey do most quads also have 520?
Thank god someone finally made a video like this. All these moron UA-cam mechanics think we have 100 dollar chain tools just laying around...
Sounds broke in here😂
No wayyy
if u cut your chain to short how can i fix that error? or do i hv to buy another chain?
Yes you can fix it but you will need another connector link
Cool
ro lagunas you can punch them out without grinding.
Spencer Cross no sorry u have to grinder them that's the only way
ro lagunas who are you to say you CANT when someone just said you could do it? Regardless I'll just keep my knowledge to myself then since you CANT 😜
Side*
Oh, please, you're damaging the oil rings. Get a splitter
If you observe, that's a non-o-ring chain. Nothing but steel and grease on that old school bruiser.
Yeah this is a good point to make though that the poster should have probably made that if it's an O ring chain you shouldn't do this as you will destroy the o rings with the heat.
thts how i do it,
ONG!🤣