Who Is Doctor Wellington Yueh | Prelude To Dune Part 1

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  • Опубліковано 24 кві 2020
  • Chang Chen has been cast as Doctor Wellington Yueh in Dune (2020) which is to be directed by Denis Villeneuve. In this video, I break down who Dr. Yueh is, what we can expect to see from him in this movie and what makes him such an intriguing character.
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  • @iamsheep
    @iamsheep 2 роки тому +79

    Chang Chen is a terrific actor. He has a great ability to internalise pain and emotion in his performances, which makes him perfect casting for Doctor Yueh. He has great performances in some of the art house films in Asia such as Eros, Three Times and The Go Master. He was also great in the martial arts action films Brotherhood of Blades (1 & 2) where he plays a tragic character with a secret.

    • @fezzz78
      @fezzz78 2 роки тому +3

      To bad he got nothing to do in Dune

    • @louisthewolf0816
      @louisthewolf0816 2 роки тому +1

      @@fezzz78 isnt he the Doctor in 2021's film?

  • @DngrDan
    @DngrDan 2 роки тому +44

    He played a great Yueh. A little underused but still enjoyed his portrayal. You could tell he was keeping a horrible secret in all of his scenes but still went out of his way to help Paul because he cared about him.

    • @Balon-Breakspear
      @Balon-Breakspear 2 роки тому +3

      Well put he did play a great Yueh but like you said underused

    • @caronstout354
      @caronstout354 2 роки тому +2

      His ultimate betrayal wasn't to his Duke, but to Baron Harrkonnen...he saved the very people that the Baron wanted dead the most.

    • @Davepool-hs7vr
      @Davepool-hs7vr Рік тому +1

      @@caronstout354 too bad that Duke Leto missed hitting the Baron with the gas

    • @paulhunter6742
      @paulhunter6742 5 місяців тому

      Even though Dr Yeuh's betrayal brought down Duke Leto and most his supporters. Dr Yeuh still did everything he could to preserve Atredies line. He managed get Duke's signet ring (Symbol Atredies power) still suits and tent/ Para compose without those Paul and Jessica would perishEd in Dune's desert

    • @paulhunter6742
      @paulhunter6742 5 місяців тому

      ​@@Davepool-hs7vr: The Baron being of suspect nature turns on his Hoffmann's shield only few minutes before Duke Leto bites down poison gas tooth. He also moved away quickly enough using his suspensers too avoid getting full dose of poison.

  • @divinglamb1150
    @divinglamb1150 4 роки тому +67

    Can't imagine a better casting choice. Fantastic look at Dr Yueh (Chang Chen).

  • @billgerhard6803
    @billgerhard6803 4 роки тому +29

    So sad. This story brought tears to my eyes. But I’m grateful for having a better understanding of Dr. Yueh.

  • @mugensamurai
    @mugensamurai 2 роки тому +8

    RIP Dean Stockwell. You were an incredible actor.

    • @jondobbs69
      @jondobbs69 11 місяців тому

      Agreed. I've always liked him as a character actor. He died the month after the film came out. I wonder if he was ever able to see a cut of it, but likely not, as his health was probably horrible toward the end. Either way, RIP homie.

  • @swagikuro
    @swagikuro 3 роки тому +26

    As a long time fan of asian cinema, I was very pleased and surprised to see Chen in the trailer. He's a great actor, solid choice.

    • @macruz8503
      @macruz8503 2 роки тому

      @Penious: Dam brah! Thats racist.

  • @trevormalcolm4328
    @trevormalcolm4328 4 роки тому +76

    I read the first 3 novels in my early 20’s (I’m the wrong side of 50 now!) I can’t wait for the new movie! And I must say, you’re doing a great job of these
    Videos.

  • @kevinlindstrom8486
    @kevinlindstrom8486 3 роки тому +9

    My goodness. I have been a huge Dune lover since the 80s, but it never occurred to me that it was inflicting harm on the BARON that was what motivated De. Yueh. I always thought it was hope for his wife. Now I have to read it again! Thank you!

  • @shidelerdantheogre8487
    @shidelerdantheogre8487 4 роки тому +69

    I think it’s a good casting choice, he definitely looks the part.
    I’m curious how they’ll reveal to the audience what his motives are because a lot of his character development is through internal monologue.

    • @arnoldfernbladst3875
      @arnoldfernbladst3875 3 роки тому +5

      I never read the prequel and only recently found out what they did to break his conditioning. It's disturbing that Herbert had to come up with a new torture that would be worse than anything already thought up in the history of mankind.

  • @sacajawe9
    @sacajawe9 3 роки тому +9

    Good description of Doctor Wellington Yueh. Zhang Zhen is a charismatic actor who can definitely portray a complex character. But just how well will also depend on the script.

  • @jeffreyrobinson3555
    @jeffreyrobinson3555 3 роки тому +12

    You covered him well. I think it’s amazing that in such a short novel and Yueh having such short part in the novel that Herbert could give him so much depth.
    So sad that he is remembered so harshly in the dune universe ‘a thousand deaths were not enough for Yueh’
    In many ways the novel turns on him.

  • @cooperlisa69
    @cooperlisa69 3 роки тому +9

    I love and respect the actor Chang Chen. My favorite tv series of his is "Love and Destiny".

  • @plamenslavov4169
    @plamenslavov4169 4 роки тому +19

    I discovered your channel yesterday as I was searching for more video analyses of characters in the Dune Saga and was really astonished by your coverage of these masterful series which Frank Herbert has crafted. I find your analysis of doctor Yueh to be very well-made and spot-on, as he is perhaps the most overlooked and misunderstood character in Dune.
    Personally, I love how Herbert has managed to craft characters who are ultimately fallible, despite their incredible abilities and arduous training. It is tragic to watch them become prisoners of their own mental anguish, illusions or circumstances that are simply outside of their control. However, as the famous psychiatrist and Holocaust survivor Viktor Frankl once said: "An abnormal reaction to an abnormal situation is normal behaviour."
    And even though their actions and reasoning may appear twisted and confliced to the outside viewer (Yueh being a perfect example of that, as you pointed out), I've always found beauty in seeing them remain stoic and brave in the face of such inhuman ordeals. And that I think is Herbert's genius. I hope that the upcoming adaptation of Dune will be able to convey that beauty of human nature, along with the remaining themes which make the series so great :)

  • @SF49ersfanatic
    @SF49ersfanatic 2 роки тому +9

    Well after hearing your (welcomed) explanations it seems Villeneuve didnt give this complex character the deserved plateform he merits. Of course you gotta make choices as the movie was already 2h30 long…

  • @Reynevan100
    @Reynevan100 3 роки тому +3

    Yueh. Man whose betrayal shaped millenia to come.

  • @refulgent_fanta
    @refulgent_fanta 3 роки тому +6

    Watching these videos made me realize that Dune lore is WAY more complex that Star Wars lore.
    I don't remember exactly how things are in the book, it's been a while since I read it. But I always believed that Yueh knew deep down in his subconscious that the Harkonnens most likely killed his wife. And he agrees to go along with the betrayal because he hopes they'll kill him too.

  • @marknovak6498
    @marknovak6498 4 роки тому +8

    The genius of having a character who was going to betray but was so pivotal to the plot. He made one mistake it portraying his thinking at the moment of his death that gave the baron just edgy enough to save his own life at the moment Yueh's vengeance would have fallen in place. He was a minor character put in the biggest inflation point of the whole saga. They did not ruin him by telling us too much about him and the means of the conditioning in the book nor in the other six books of the core Dune saga.

    • @NerdCookies
      @NerdCookies  4 роки тому +2

      Yep, it was also cool to see how he reacted to others who suspected a traitor. Brian's contributions gave us details we didn't really need. I love the way Frank left it

  • @TishaHayes
    @TishaHayes 3 роки тому +28

    The most profound failure was of Thufur to not imagine that imperial conditioning could be broken. Surely Thufur would of known of the uncertain status of Yueh's wife and that this would be a potential leverage point.

    • @calql8er
      @calql8er 2 роки тому +5

      Correct

    • @blkbrdmntrvimes6438
      @blkbrdmntrvimes6438 2 роки тому +3

      In his defense he is one of the oldest mentats still in active service, further it's been years since imbibing the juice of safoo ,overall the mistake is truly detrimental and he's genuinely disappointed and remorseful that he failed the Duke.

    • @Gojoseon
      @Gojoseon 2 роки тому +6

      Like Lady Jessica, Thufir probably thought the likely loss of his wife to the Harkonnens was a strong reason for Yueh to side with the Atreides. And he wasn’t new either-he and Lady Jessica knew each other for at least six years prior to the events of Dune.

    • @paulhunter6742
      @paulhunter6742 Рік тому

      Mentat Thufir can only work with facts given to him. Just as he could not predict attempt on Paul's life. How could he known Dr Yewh mental conditioning had been broken.

  • @sceanlyonz4571
    @sceanlyonz4571 2 роки тому +4

    The Harkonnens struck gold in using Dr Yueh to achieve what they thought was something that would give them the upper hand as he was so close to the House Atriedes but his influence was subverted

  • @Cass-es5kl
    @Cass-es5kl 3 роки тому

    Live the choice for this character. I also enjoy your channel alot. You have done very well fleshing out the characters. Awesome job

  • @bm4114
    @bm4114 2 роки тому

    I’ve consumed a million of these dune lore videos and I’d still fail the test

  • @peterde-la-garde3081
    @peterde-la-garde3081 2 роки тому +1

    Thank You for the hard work you do in producing these videos, I enjoyed hearing your views and everyone's comments. All his characters have meat on their bones which makes it a good read.This episode was well done , how you fleshed out Dr Yeuhs character .
    I have found the books and movies I have enjoyed that highlight the to and fro of good and evil have an evil character that you can't fully hate you end up empathising and reach a middle ground. Frank Herbert did a great job with Dr Yueh, I'm looking forward to the latest movie version of the saga and think Chang Chen will present a good portrayal of the character , as I read the story he is close to what my minds eye saw as an image of the character.

  • @kdryan21
    @kdryan21 4 роки тому +6

    Is Yueh sinister or tragic? He didn't ask to betray the Duke; he was twisted into what he was. In the end he gave the Duke a shot at killing his mortal enemy and saved Jessica and Paul. At the same time, if he had gone to the Duke, what would Leto have done? I would think he would have made every effort to save Yueh's life. At the least they could have helped him deal with her loss. It speaks to Yueh's true character that he would allow thousands to die to save one, no matter who, speaks volumes.

    • @boxtears
      @boxtears 2 роки тому

      Do the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few? It's individualism versus collectivism. Yueh may have been wrong but he was also being an individualist.

    • @caronstout354
      @caronstout354 2 роки тому +1

      Dr. Yueh managed to make the best of a very bad situation while sticking it to the Baron at the same time.

  • @stephenpointon
    @stephenpointon 3 роки тому +51

    i always thought Dean Stockwell did a damm good job especially after the re-editing and the butchered script . Saying that I have great hope that the new casting will show the depth of the character.

    • @pjmax7287
      @pjmax7287 2 роки тому +2

      I more or less agree. Stockwell did as well as he could, given what he had to work with.

    • @Trumpetsblow33
      @Trumpetsblow33 2 роки тому +2

      Agreed

    • @caronstout354
      @caronstout354 2 роки тому

      He turned what would have been a stereotypical villain into a deeply moving portrayal of a flawed and wounded man in a desperate situation.

  • @MakingModels
    @MakingModels 4 роки тому +6

    Fantastic look at Dr Yueh. One of your best video's yet. And getting close to that 1k.. KUTGW. :)

  • @djolds1
    @djolds1 3 роки тому

    Insightful. Thank you for the character analysis.

  • @memberofthehardright
    @memberofthehardright 4 роки тому +4

    Great postulations on the tragic events surrounding Dr Yueh...

  • @jimmywrangles
    @jimmywrangles 4 роки тому +4

    Poor Dr Yueh, I always felt bad for him. It didn't matter which way he turned he was trapped. PS Nearly 1000 subs woohoooo. Keep up the excellent work it's very much appreciated. Thumbs up from Australia.👍

  • @ferrz4005
    @ferrz4005 3 роки тому +3

    Me encanta que hayan elegido a Chang Chen... Es un actor impresionante

  • @VIV292
    @VIV292 4 роки тому +5

    He was a tortured soul and very complex character. Thanks for info

  • @calql8er
    @calql8er 2 роки тому +4

    The first thing that crossed my mind when we learn the Harkonnens have Yueh's wife is did not the Duke also know this? Having known it maybe could he have rescued her or at least been on guard against possible treachery from Yueh. And how did the Fremen know there was a traitor? I read Dune in high school and always pictured the 'red' (not black) diamond as being much larger, covering more of the forehead with some kind of intricate design inscribed therein. But what we get is this tiny little red diamond which one can barely see. We don't even get to see it in the miniseries with their way over-the-top costuming.

    • @dagnirglaurunga1620
      @dagnirglaurunga1620 2 роки тому

      Yueh kept it to himself, I can't bring myself to empathize with him for betraying the man who showed him nothing but kindness and respect for 6 years. All of that on the word of the baron who clearly couldn't be trusted

    • @calql8er
      @calql8er 2 роки тому

      @@dagnirglaurunga1620 Yueh knew he was going to die. I love the Dune books...sort of. I really like the books his son wrote. Dune should be made into a three year mini-series. I just think the three efforts to put it on film haven't quite worked out.

  • @miguelruiz8183
    @miguelruiz8183 4 роки тому +1

    Nerd Cookies watching your vids have made me want to watch the Original Dune, definitely subscribing!!!!

  • @Highinsight7
    @Highinsight7 3 роки тому +8

    MY ONE problem with the story line of DUNE (one of my FAVORITE stories of all time!) IS Dr Yeuh.. Yueh's wife was "kidnapped" by the Barron.... he used this to "blackmail" Yueh into doing his bidding and treason against the House of Atreides... I believe (well really... KNOW) knowing the Harkonnen's as well as Yueh did and how brutal and savage they are... he would have already guessed that they killed his wife (which they did) and when finished with him, the Barron would also kill him as well (which they do...!) It's simple math... HE WOULD HAVE absolutely known this! PERIOD! I believe he would have let Leto know what was going on WELL in advance... most likely when they're still on Caladan... (YES!, I know he (Yueh)was being watched through an eye insert by the Barron... BUT clever folks have many ways around these things...) and Yueh might have even confided with Lady Jessica who is also an Beni Gesserit, as was Yueh's wife, Wanna Marcus. This has bothered me FOR YEARS... I can't really see it any other "logical" way... Yueh even plans on getting revenge on the Barron... EVEN IF he was able to kill the Barron through Leto... The Harkonnen's ARE NOT going to allow him to live... PERIOD... OR his wife (who is already dead at this point, and has been for a while) He might as well do the noble thing and save the house of Atreides as he was sworn to do... (now that makes perfect scene... ) and... his "conditioning" would have allowed him to do so.

    • @caronstout354
      @caronstout354 2 роки тому

      Bi-la kaifa!

    • @MrKhankab
      @MrKhankab Рік тому

      Yueh knew his wife was probably dead. He was basically betraying Leto so he can kill the baron. He got turned from a doctor who could do no harm. To an angry husband who is blinded by revenge. Just think of "the crow"

    • @Highinsight7
      @Highinsight7 Рік тому

      @@MrKhankab Love "The Crow"... "blinded by revenge..."

  • @XyZed1000
    @XyZed1000 4 роки тому +3

    Wow, so many subs since the last time I was here. Can't wait for the 1k sub video! I think the doc is overlooked, mainly by those who didn't read the books as the onscreen adaptions couldn't really do the character and, what he was going through, justice. I guess it's not an easy thing to bring to the big screen. If done correctly, people watching won't immediately think 'villains puppet' but, instead can relate to the turmoil this character is going through.

    • @NerdCookies
      @NerdCookies  4 роки тому +1

      No film adaptation should be expected to perfectly capture what's in the book. However, I'm hoping that this can be a more faithful representation than previous iterations. I have no idea what to do for a 1k subs video other than thanking great supporters like you... Any ideas?

    • @XyZed1000
      @XyZed1000 4 роки тому

      @@NerdCookies I've not got a clue 😅

  • @df4250
    @df4250 3 роки тому

    That was an excellent analysis of a very complex character and yes, you were right, even though he's a secondary character, his role is very complex and tends to be incompletely dealt with in previous versions. It would be interesting to see how his role develops in this new portrayal because his role is so central to the whole story.

  • @sorokahdeen
    @sorokahdeen 3 роки тому

    Good examination of a pivotal character whose importance is easily overlooked.

  • @bradfordreed6175
    @bradfordreed6175 4 роки тому +6

    Alfie Allen would likely not have been the best casting choice for Yueh, but if Iwan Rheon had been cast as Piter, the film would reek with associations for the audience to fill in the blanks.

  • @jimschiltz5343
    @jimschiltz5343 3 роки тому

    Good video! Well done

  • @2hot2handle65
    @2hot2handle65 2 роки тому

    The 2021 Yueh speaks standard Chinese. Timothy Chalamet actually says one line of perfect Chinese without any accent. The details they put in this movie blow my mind.

  • @Happening.Center
    @Happening.Center 3 роки тому +3

    When Star Wars fans find out their sagas we're actually supposed to be Dune sagas. Yeah, Star Wars is a re-hashed Dune. It was always supposed to be Dune. Let the SPICE flow thru you. Mmmmmmmm much to learn you do ; )

  • @shadowraith1
    @shadowraith1 4 роки тому +3

    Another interesting character in Frank Herbert's Dune trilogy. I've never read any of the expanded Dune universe books. Just stayed with originals. Yueh is a tragic figure. However whether the deep seated feelings he has can be portrayed on film. Remains to be seen. Watching a movie or reading a book are two very different experiences. Though Jackson's LOT came really close. Thanks for your reflections.👍👀👀👀👍

  • @eldridgemiles8397
    @eldridgemiles8397 4 роки тому +6

    You do a really good job on the Dune series. Could you also do a topic on the Imperial sardaukar sometime?

    • @NerdCookies
      @NerdCookies  4 роки тому +2

      Thank you! I was thinking about doing that. It would be good to get a look at the Sardaukar in the trailer.

  • @Jessymandias
    @Jessymandias 3 роки тому +1

    My favorite character

  • @mikemaselli1568
    @mikemaselli1568 Рік тому

    You nailed the role!

  • @jameskuhn4020
    @jameskuhn4020 3 роки тому +4

    I've been watching and listening to your insightful analysis of the Dune characters, and I commend you for your thoughtful understanding of Dune. I read the series.many years ago, through "Chapterhouse". Your knowledge of the characters is profound.

  • @jpelletier03
    @jpelletier03 3 роки тому +2

    People may disagree, but when reading the books, to me, Doctor Yueh came across as a tragic character. Ravaged by regret, and guilt, love and loss. There was so much pain there.

  • @guyagena8205
    @guyagena8205 3 роки тому +2

    Like your vids, thanks. Couple of questions about the good Doctor:
    1. Considering the amount of sneaking going on, wouldn't imperial conditioning have a back-door to fail the safe?
    2. Again, in a universe where there is no paranoia 'cause everyone IS out to get you, how did Yueh get past the fearsome Hawat and/or the Bene Jess?
    I'm thinking I missed something, Herbert's too good on those kinds of details.

  • @ssjjss666
    @ssjjss666 4 роки тому +3

    Dr. Yueh's mother-in-law: How come we never see you two anymore?
    Dr. Yueh: Well, ah. . . it's complicated.

  • @Jadyra
    @Jadyra 2 роки тому +3

    The first step in avoiding the trap is knowing the trap exists.

  • @WOranos
    @WOranos 2 роки тому

    “‘Yueh! Yueh! Yueh!’ goes the refrain. ‘A million deaths were not enough for Yueh!’”

  • @apexnine
    @apexnine 2 роки тому

    I'll get slammed by some for this reference.
    In the expanded universe (Winds of Dune) Yueh was Suk doctor to House Vernius of IX. Yueh was the doctor who helped put back together the destroyed body of Rhombur Vernius who ruled on for decades after. Later after the death of Rhombur House Vernius fell apart. Here Yueh had no place to go and half jokingly asked the Atreides if they needed a Suk doctor. They accepted.

  • @earthknight60
    @earthknight60 Рік тому

    This also highlights some of the issues of the Bene Gesserit. It wasn't really the Harkonnens who removed/broke the conditioning, it was his Bene Gesserit wife who broke it, and the Harkonnens figured this out and exploited it.

  • @swamisalami3000
    @swamisalami3000 3 роки тому +1

    Dean Stockwell was one hell of a Yueh!!

  • @ToxicManFlu
    @ToxicManFlu 3 роки тому +2

    Great job on this character deep dive. It is very difficult to adapt Epic stories to screen because though a picture paints a thousand words imagery cannot convey THAT much back story. I dont think we are going to see more than a scene with flash backs for the doctor, there isnt really another way to do it in the given amount of time

  • @Tacsmoker
    @Tacsmoker 4 роки тому +5

    i want to see an 'Imperial conditioning' scene,
    and a 'breaking of the Imperial conditioning scene'
    i understand this took time, but some examples would be nice to see....
    cheers Nerd Cookies, i alway leave here thinking about stuff or ive learned something new.

    • @NerdCookies
      @NerdCookies  4 роки тому +2

      Glad I could provide some food for thought. Half the fun of these stories is what you think about after you read it. I would like the audience to know the significance of what he's doing.

    • @martinharris5017
      @martinharris5017 4 роки тому +1

      Jodorowsky's un-filmed version had a "breaking scene" that would have been shocking and controversial (it involved a torture scene with Yueh's wife).

    • @Tacsmoker
      @Tacsmoker 4 роки тому +1

      @@martinharris5017 I would have liked to see that, cheers for the info mate.

    • @WickedKingLycoan
      @WickedKingLycoan 4 роки тому +1

      It’s very simple. I don’t know you, but imagine that your spouse, the love of your life was kidnapped. You then receive periodic film clips of their torture over days, months, years, all the while never being able to talk with your spouse. Never being able to console or help them, never being able to rescue them from their torture, never being able to wrest yourself from anguish at their torture. Never actually knowing who has done this. All you are able to do is to watch random films sent secretly to you of the degradation, rape, torture of your spouse. Then a message comes. Never forget that you are also a Suk Doctor, incorruptible with a proud history reaching far back of integrity, self assurance in your abilities.You can’t show weakness or corruption. Ever. Then one day after a few years of this, you receive a message.

  • @EnjoySackLunch
    @EnjoySackLunch 2 роки тому

    RIP Dean Stockwell, who’s Yeuh was just the right balance of haunted, trapped and earnest.
    One of the most grounded and human parts of an otherwise madcap film.

  • @lordmuaddib
    @lordmuaddib 4 роки тому +2

    i strongly believe inner monologues can be potrayed. in the 1984 movie there were tons of bad examples due to the fact they stopped the momentum of each scene. but, give em the right space at the right moment (when yueh is alone, maybe?) and it might be done

    • @hindsightpov4218
      @hindsightpov4218 4 роки тому +1

      The SciFi channel Dune miniseries showed the inner dialogue can be expressed without coming across as silly. I have a good feeling Villeneuve’s Dune will adapt the inner dialogue well.

  • @UporaFilms
    @UporaFilms 2 роки тому +1

    A million deaths were not enough for Yueh!

  • @Erykthebat
    @Erykthebat 3 роки тому +1

    Yueh Yueh Yueh, a million deaths is not enough for Yueh.

  • @Gentou
    @Gentou 2 роки тому

    I really need to try reading through Dune again. Wasn't able to initially due to undiagnosed ADD.

  • @grandsome1
    @grandsome1 3 роки тому

    They could expose his inner thoughts in the film with secret tears, his scene in the tunnels and his final letter.

  • @hypatia137
    @hypatia137 2 роки тому +1

    I think Yueh considered the high possibility of his wife's murder, but he could not just simply accept this. Because this possibility gave him even more unbeareable anguish. So, he chose to believe the idea that Wanna was still alive, and completely allowed himself to be conditioned to this idea. He loved his wife excessively and the thought of life without her was worst thing for him. Frank Herbert gives a reasonable explanation and proof for his too emotion-driven actions and irrational decisions. Somewhere in the book, as you know, Yueh sees Lady Jessica looking sleeping Paul with deep love and pride, and he envies this motherly love. Then he ponders desperatly that the reason why Wanna did not give him a child? Thus, in fact, he was a very gentile, emotional and fatherly man by his innate nature. His sentimental personality gave him fear to lose and so anxiety, such fear and anxiety rendered him open to pychological harassment of evil people, and this harassment made him mentally damaged and obsessive to his delusions.

  • @samhouston1979
    @samhouston1979 2 роки тому

    can you imagine how advanced medicine would be 10,000 years in the future?

  • @bookchaser1103
    @bookchaser1103 4 роки тому +1

    I heard part of the Baron's psychological torture was forcing Yueh to watch the sequel trilogy over and over again until he actually believed it made sense and was carefully planned out in advance ... P.S. It's cool you have new Dune 2020 photos to use in your video.

    • @NerdCookies
      @NerdCookies  4 роки тому +2

      🤣 that would break anyone

  • @Yorgar
    @Yorgar 2 роки тому

    What I like is that neither the Atreides nor Harkonnen see what Yeuh is doing. In one case it shows how good he is at hiding it and the other is should have seen it coming.

  • @Davepool-hs7vr
    @Davepool-hs7vr Рік тому

    Can you do a video on the orange bible

  • @raydavison4288
    @raydavison4288 Рік тому

    The major flaw in the character development of Dr. Yueh is that although he, and all other physicians of his kind were supposed to be deeply conditioned to be resistant to all & any attempts to subvert their loyalty to their employers, all it took to subvert Yueh was a threat to his wife. Wouldn't such a threat be just the kind of thing that he was conditioned against?

  • @yourcheapdate4564
    @yourcheapdate4564 2 роки тому +1

    I never understood the betrayal. I really think that it would have been obvious to those around Yueh when he had turned. This was always the part of the book that made no sense to me. Everyone is always on guard in this universe. It just never made sense that this would go unnoticed. Yueh would always be someone under the utmost scrutiny...always seems like an out of the ordinary plot device, even when I read it at twelve.

    • @jimclark2824
      @jimclark2824 2 роки тому +3

      Same for me. So, I revisited this part of the story recently and my mind is filling in some blanks. Yueh was married to a BG, and she had taught him some of their abilities. I doubt he'd been able to hide his betrayal from Jessica though. She even knew he was hiding something towards the end, but something came up, and she changed her focus before she could explore further. Whats most interesting is how was his conditioning broken? Just torturing a spouse would have been the first thing he'd been taught to resist. So, I now believe that the Baron didn't break his conditioning. Yueh broke his own conditioning with the BG training his wife gave him so he could get revenge. It's the best I can come up with to explain how his conditioning was broken.

    • @JTheTeach
      @JTheTeach Рік тому +1

      I don't think a Sook Doctors indoctrination had ever been broken before; that's the only way I can see it making some sense. The breaking of Yueh's conditioning was developed by twisted Mentat Pieter Devries, so it may have been a novel unknown approach.

  • @metzyahrosenstein4827
    @metzyahrosenstein4827 2 роки тому

    Yueh was always pretty similar to the 2021 portrayal in my head likely just cuz of his last name.

  • @junesilvermanb2979
    @junesilvermanb2979 Рік тому +1

    The Suk School is a prominent medical school in Frank Herbert's science fiction Dune universe.
    Suk doctors are the universe's most competent and trusted physicians.
    Those who have received the "Suk Imperial Conditioning" are incapable of inflicting harm upon their charges.
    These individuals bear a black diamond tattoo on their foreheads, and wear their hair in a special silver ring.
    The fallibility of Suk training is proven in Dune (1965), in a situation involving Dr. Wellington Yueh.
    The Harkonnen twisted Mentat Piter De Vries notes:
    "Hawat will have divined that we have an agent planted on him ... The obvious suspect is Dr. Yueh, who is indeed our agent. But Hawat has investigated and found that our doctor is a Suk School graduate with Imperial Conditioning - supposedly safe enough to minister even to the Emperor. Great store is set on Imperial Conditioning. It's assumed that ultimate conditioning cannot be removed without killing the subject. However, as someone once observed, given the right lever you can move a planet. We found the lever that moved the doctor."
    To gain such leverage against Yueh, Baron Vladimir Harkonnen had abducted and tortured Yueh's wife, Wanna.
    The doctor is thus compelled to betray House Atreides in exchange for her release.
    Even so, Yueh allows Paul Atreides and Lady Jessica to escape the attack and gives Duke Leto Atreides the means to kill the Baron (though Leto fails to do so).
    Later in the series, in Heretics of Dune (1984) and Chapterhouse: Dune (1985), many Bene Gesserits are trained by Suk Schools to become doctors for the Sisterhood.
    The origins of the school are explored in the Legends of Dune prequel trilogy (2002-2004) by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson.
    It gets its name from Dr. Mohandas Suk, a physician instrumental in fighting a catastrophic thinking machine-created plague among humans during the Butlerian Jihad.
    After the war, he sets out to establish a medical institution which will assure "that no threat of machine, war, or plague can ever harm us again."

  • @TheSimbiotes
    @TheSimbiotes 3 роки тому +1

    Does anyone know the name of the author of the picture on 5:34?

  • @RamsesTheFourth
    @RamsesTheFourth 2 роки тому +2

    Too bad they didnt give him almost any screen time in new Dune. I guess they wanted to surprise the audience with the betrayal.

  • @HugoStiglitz88
    @HugoStiglitz88 3 роки тому

    Should I wait for the movie or listen to the audiobooks first? I kind of don't want to spoil the movie. I'll listen to the book either way tho

  • @permeus2nd
    @permeus2nd 2 роки тому

    So the only one I can think of doing the internal dialogue without it feeling too out of place is personal logs, it could still come over as forced if done badly but it can work, I’m thinking of Star Trek DS9 in the pale moonlight an episode that most fans put forward as one of the best Trek has to offer it lets us see what is on Siscos mind about the actions he has taken and while it would feel silly if everyone in the Dune film did it it could help flesh out some of the more complicated characters that have a lot of internal talking in the books, maybe it’s they recording a personal log or a letter to Paul explaining why they did what they did.

  • @2rico4u
    @2rico4u 4 роки тому +1

    House Harkonnen lore video next, please!

    • @NerdCookies
      @NerdCookies  4 роки тому +1

      I did one on Vladimir Harkonnen and Beast Rabban already. I have Piter and Feyd on the list as well ;)

    • @2rico4u
      @2rico4u 4 роки тому

      @@NerdCookies yeah, I saw them. Really good material. Awesome! Piter is a very interesting character, and a scary one because of his intelligence. Feyd is interesting for me because I don't know much about him.

  • @LaChigary
    @LaChigary 2 роки тому

    I am very curious about what doctor Yueh's wife had to go through , and what she was like . Is there any in-depth information about her ?
    Dr. Yueh mentions that the Harkonnen taken apart like a doll in the new Dune , so what does that mean ? .

  • @darkeklawe
    @darkeklawe 3 роки тому

    Would like to see your opinion and ideas for the Shadout Mapes

  • @UGABulldawg
    @UGABulldawg 2 роки тому

    Still can’t believe the doctor took down the entire family

  • @gunslingerspartan
    @gunslingerspartan 3 роки тому +1

    it's a shame the bit where he gives paul his orange catholic bible and tells him to read from where his mark is, but paul reads his wifes mark, her favourite passage and it sends him into an upset was left out from the movie adaptation

  • @HugoStiglitz88
    @HugoStiglitz88 3 місяці тому

    Imo the only thing they didn't do a good job on in the movie is explaining why they trusted Dr Yue so much. They never mention the conditioning, and never show him struggling to hide his plan from Jessica. I think that wouldn't have taken long and it's important detail because without it, the audience can think that the atreides are dumb when they're not at all

  • @jacobnavarro3675
    @jacobnavarro3675 2 роки тому

    If it's true that had the Harkonens not used Dr. Yueh as the pawn, they would have just used someone else within house Atriedies... why use the Suk Doctor at all? (Since he was such a time-consuming challenge to break). I think they decided they needed to use him because he's the least likely for the Atriedes to suspect due to his conditioning. Therefore, turning the Suk Doctor becomes the most likely option to succeed, which of course it did. Luckily, the villains weren't able to fully predict the fallout of the plan and it nearly killed them all.

  • @jesse_campbell
    @jesse_campbell 2 роки тому

    This fictional character's plight highlights the role freedom plays in legitimizing virtue. His programmed benevolence wasn't really a virtue, since it was compelled. He had no choice. If he had been free to betray the Atreides, he likely wouldn't have. Because his benevolence was compelled, it served as a fulcrum, a checkmate to get him to choose between two compulsory forms of benevolence-loyalty towards the Atreides, and loyalty towards his wife. If there were no conditioning, he could have betrayed his wife and spared his employers, saving thousands of lives in the process. Every other servant was loyal to Leto and his family because of free will and love born of mutual respect, no conditioning needed.
    Compelled virtues are not virtues at all; they collapse when the scaffolding of compulsion is removed, or manifest as malicious compliance (which might be the best description of Yueh's treason). I hope that real-life dictatorships that compel their people to act well will succumb to this fatal flaw in tyrannical governance. It is sad and disturbing to see how many free people are now striving to outsource responsibility for their lives and actions, preferring to carry the childish burden of blind obedience rather than the adult burden of personal responsibility.
    Could tyranny be a symptom of cowardice in leaders and followers? Frank Herbert's solution, his "Golden Path," was just getting a segment of humanity out of sight of officious managers, letting chaos and rolled dice and freedom of individuals determine outcomes, instead of insecure authority figures.

  • @shanejohns7901
    @shanejohns7901 Місяць тому

    So without Yueh's betrayal, wouldn't the Harkonnens still have attacked with the many Imperial Sardukar soldiers? And wouldn't the Atreides house still have been destroyed? Only this time, likely without any possibility for Paul and/or his mother Jessica being capable of surviving, and without House Harkonnen losing their evil Mentat from the gas released by the fake tooth?

  • @danelamoreaux4166
    @danelamoreaux4166 2 роки тому

    I could listen to you talk nerdy about anything

  • @Weedman1968
    @Weedman1968 2 роки тому

    this is just a dude who will help collect the box office in Chinese cinemas

  • @cherylthommo1
    @cherylthommo1 4 роки тому +3

    A million deaths is not enough...

  • @HigherMammal
    @HigherMammal 4 роки тому +1

    You could say he had some beef, Wellington.

  • @haroldaranda8042
    @haroldaranda8042 3 роки тому +1

    Remember the tooth!

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 10 місяців тому

    I still think the first Dune Movie was closer to the book than part one.

  • @Shadow__133
    @Shadow__133 3 роки тому +1

    @12:06 they had to put a chinese somewhere...

  • @christiansmith9306
    @christiansmith9306 3 роки тому

    Still got the hair wrong. Isnt there a silver ring supposed to hold his hair?

  • @sebastianfairchild4733
    @sebastianfairchild4733 2 роки тому

    The doctor don’t deserve a video, IJS.

  • @junoeggers8878
    @junoeggers8878 2 роки тому

    I agree that the conditioning is not broken, but twisted in their past when a disease was so rampant that it could not be cured you cut it out to relive the suffering of the inflicted. So since the evil of the Baron can not be cured it must be cut out to bring his wife and Duke relive of suffering. This means unfortunately using the Duke as the "delivery system" for the "cure". The Duke's son is saved by this operation and thus the disease is destroyed.

  • @pac1fic055
    @pac1fic055 2 роки тому

    There’s a brief scene in the movie where Dr. Yueh and Paul converse in what appears to be Chinese. Was that the case, or was it a made up language that sounded like Chinese?

  • @natyreyes1580
    @natyreyes1580 2 роки тому

    Michelle Yeoh as Dr. Wellington.♥️ That will be my choice.

  • @albertoenriquez21
    @albertoenriquez21 2 роки тому

    I wonder if Tsunade, a character from the Naruto anime series, was inspired by Dr Yueh....

  • @higcraigerson2737
    @higcraigerson2737 2 роки тому

    So the Doctors wife was a bene gessurit... did the order not care that one of their own was held captive by the Harkonnans? Or would the Bene Gs be in it, and in that case... his wife as well?... someone who knows this story, am I onto something?

  • @williamgunderson3002
    @williamgunderson3002 3 роки тому

    "Inconceivable! You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." 😁 Amazing character breakdown.

  • @orsonlannister9847
    @orsonlannister9847 2 роки тому

    I'm only half way through and maybe this will come up but won't the Bene Gesserit be unhappy to learn one of their own was brutally tortured and murdered by the Harkonnens?

  • @dagnirglaurunga1620
    @dagnirglaurunga1620 2 роки тому +2

    I can't bring myself to empathize with yueh for betraying a man who showed him nothing but kindness and respect for 6 years. All on the word of the baron who can't be trusted. He should have told the Duke about his wife he would have done something.