He can't. Only humans who can use the voice are Nords. Because Kynareth personally crafted them as weapons of Armageddon to fight with Shor to ensure the world endures into the next Kalpa.
@deadsoul7409 Absolutly UNTRUE. The lore is specific, Kyne specifically only gifted this ability to the Nords. Nords are different from the other races of man. They are not descendants of the Aedra, Nords were created by Kyne (by the order of Shor). Nords are the specific WEAPONS made by Shor to fight the Armageddon at the End and the Beginning of Time to ensure the next Kalpa comes to into being.
With the valhalla dlc, this whole conversation takes place with tyr, now Kratos has found peace, purpose and most importantly redemption and forgiveness for himself
14:12-15:12 Holy shit, man. This actually brought tears to my eyes. The music helped, I suppose. Brilliant. Simply brilliant. I hope to one day see Kratos meeting Guts.
Yet another entertaining and enlightening video starring our favourite grandpa dragon. Missed seeing these from you man, but great to have yet another edition to the collection. God bless you homie! 🫂
Man this video and the conversation were out of this world, talking about the experiences they have in life, what if Joshua Graham , Paarthurnax and Kratos were talking about their lives, destiny, beliefs and most of all the wisdom/knowledge they gained through the journey they have and unexpectedly Guts will join them and telling how he endured and fought the odds against him by life, destiny, beliefs, humanity and demons that would be epic to watch these characters having conversations to themselves where they all agreed, understand and related to.
The image of Guts and Kratos discussing their past, hardships, and adventures together would certainly be epic af. I even think that Guys would be one of the few mortals that Kratos could not only relate and respect. But also look up too as well. Vice versa to Guts as well.
If you go to couriers gambits UA-cam he did a good philosophical video of both Joshua and Kratos speaking to eachother about their past. ITS SO GOOD, you gotta watch it
Saying that this is great is not saying enough. Paarthurnax here feels so expanded yet lore accurate that I believe you should be in charge of writing his character. Same with Kratos.
I am loving these so much right now. Would absolutely love to see more. I won't repeat my comment from an earlier video in the playlist though. Nah I'll let that one speak for itself. It'll be found in the comments of the Joshua video.
Lok Thu`um, you convinced me zeymah, i join the way of the voice. Also...i have flown over greece and met a familiar face to you spartan. the ship captain forgives you, he wanted me to deliver.
Epic!make a meeting between two characters, the "ghost of Sparta" and "the old one", to atone for their sins. Thank you for the opportunity to hold this meeting
perhaps man will one day make machines that will be indistinguishable from them and the machines will speak in the tones of are great fictional characters like these two but weather we will co-exist with one another or be destroyed by the other...it remains to be seen or mankind out of fear for the possibility may never let it come to pass.
The AI gets Paarthurnax's voice perfectly, sounds exactly like the original but the lack of dragon language mid-conversation just makes it so not like him. Yet the philosophy is 100% loyal
Great one. But there's things that Paarthurnax says is nonsensical thought. Kratos didn’t kill any omnipotent being, the fact they have been defeated alone disprove such thing and we know the Gods of GoW are absolutely not close to that. Kratos is not THAT POWERFUL neither he is the strongest thing Paarthurnax have meet, literally Alduin is the World-Eater destroy and re-create the entire mortal multiverse/Mundas time to time, an events known as the Kalpic cycle and the Last Dragonborn beat Alduin in Sovngarde. Most importantly thing, Gods of GoW doesn't even compare to demi Gods of TES like the Demiprinces, hack the dosen't even compared to the Celestials in TES. AND COMPARED TALOS TO KRATOS ARE CRAZY.
Lore behind Kratos makes him way stronger than you might think so it's hard to actually say. I'm not gonna pretend to know exactly where he lies, but it's much stronger than you might think. I can't say for sure one way or another if he's stronger or weaker than any of the deities or demi deities in Elder Scrolls, but you can be sure he'd put up a hell of a fight
@@SebasTian58323 I know Kratos Lore Is OP and all but I can tell you for sure that he definitely doesn't compare to the Elder Scrolls Gods. The Elder scrolls Gods are stupidity Strong, and i am not even kidding. I gave you two simplest examples of them. Ancano after tapping to the full power of Eye of Magnus which hold immeasurable power inside it and was going destroy the entire world. "Opening the Eye of Magnus and tapping into full and incredible power" -Skyrim Prima guide 266 page. "But one sure for thing, it hold immeasurable power inside it. -Skyrim prime guide 166 page "You've come for me, have you?, You think I don't know what you're up to? You think I can't destroy you?* The power to unmake the world at my fingertips, and you think you can do anything about it?" -Ancano "What do we do now?" "The Eye has grown unstable. It cannot remain here, or else it may destroy this College and this world. It must be secured. Ancano's actions prove that the world is not ready for such a thing. We shall safeguard it" -Quaranir The World which In context is the mortal multiverse/Mundus. "Do you know of Arteum?” the old man asked." "The island you Psijics come from,” Glim" answered him. "It was removed from the world once. Did you know that?" "I did not.” "Such things happen.” "He nodded, more to himself, it seemed, than to Mere-Glim.“Has something been removed from the world?” he asked" "No,” Urvwen said, lowering his voice. “Something has been removed from another world. And it has come here.” "What will it do?” "I don't know. But I think it will be very bad.” "Why?” "It‟s too complicated to explain,” he sighed. “And even if you understood my explanation,it wouldn't help. Mundus-the world-is a very delicate thing, you know. Only certain rules keep it from returning to the Is/Is Not" -the Infernal City the Celestials, are cosmic entites that embodies the constellations, the Celestials, beings that aren't even Gods and was created by power flow from few stars can literally destroy the whole multiverse of Mundus just by presence of there true power, which why they use there avatars in Nirn. "The Vestige: Apex Stone?" "Valla: The Apex Stones are what allow the Celstials to manifest in this plane. By corrupting our Apex Stone, the Serpent sought to submit our consciousness to his will and corrupt us. This is what happened to the Lost One". "The Vestige: Can't we just destroy the Apex Stone?" "Valla: If you did, our full power would be released. "Mundus could not withstand such force". -Valla, the Celestial Mage. "That is why they use their avatars, the Celestials. "For some, however, wisdom is not enough. Avatars of the constellations-Celestials-wield power that even the greatest sorcerers can scarcely comprehend. Now, their gifts are just within reach" -Celestial_Crate ESO. And the Celestials aren't even God's in TES.
@@MohamedMustafaAlk I mean, a weakened Kratos-drained of his godhood-was able to overpower Atlas who was holding the pillar of creation up. Given that if the pillar fell it could destroy everything, including the infinitely sized underworld(It has been confirmed by a number of sources that the Underworld is infinite in size, such as its description in the official God of War website (now deleted) and in an interview with Cecil Kim (Concept Artist, God of War III)) it stands to reason that Atlas has the strength to hold up that much. Kratos only got stronger after this, as this happened in God of War 2, well before he stole the soul of Hades or unleashed the power of hope or anything like that. Later on he was able to keep up with and kill Hermes, who out sped Helio's light-which was able to light up all of the underworld, which again is infinite in size and still only one part of the Greek cosmology. There's also places like the domain of death(entirely different from the underworld in this case), Olympus itself, Greece and the rest of the human world, and the pocket dimension Ares made that had entire star systems in the sky. And of course people like Gaia and Zeus scale above them, and Kratos got way stronger to fight them. Then you go to the Norse side, where he kept up with Thor physically who's physical strength in battle against the world serpent damaged the world tree and sent the serpent back in time. The world tree itself exists beyond time and space, and the concepts of life and death are merely parts of it that it encompasses and transcends. All of Norse creation is a part of it, including several realms between realms and the void before the realms were made. And Thor was able to damage the tree, splintering it enough that the world serpent was sent back in time. He was also able to battle Ragnarok, who destroyed Asgard, and the branch of the world tree it sat upon-shaking the world tree to its core. Kratos was able to defeat Thor and then immediately get into a fight with Odin. Of course, Thor is the strongest Norse God, but Odin is no slouch either. Kratos has also overcome things like fate manipulation(described in the books better, but the sisters of fate tried to cut his life thread and were unable to). The cosmology of God of War is strange. But each of the pantheons that exist within the God of War universe do indeed inhabit an allocated area within the planet Earth, but within the borders of said area, they somehow still contain entire realities and universes within. Cory Barlog has this to say about how it might work. “The way I see the mythologies (in God of War) is kinda like that Hubble telescope image. That image shows the universe with all its individual galaxies - and each galaxy is a representation of a mythology. You sort of wrap that around the Earth, and in any given moment, all of those mythological belief systems existed. They all deal with the creation myths around their region - it’s just separated by geography.” As Cory Barlog states, the God of War mythology could be better summarized as being similar to the Hubble Ultra Deep Field image, except you’d have to wrap it up around the Earth. Each of these dots would show the number of mythologies that existed at the same time. All of their creation myths hold true around their region, with it being separated by “geography”. There are also statements that nothing from the new games are retcons the senior director of art and animation at Sony Santa Monica, Bruno Velazquez, has gone forward to say: "Why would we (retcon the previous games)? This is the continuation of the saga. Retcons are lazy ways out to continue a story." "Poseidon was the God of All Seas, but now he is dead." This confirms the past games were not retconned in overall scale. Poseidon is still considered the god of all oceans, as opposed to just the God of the Aegean Sea, or something similar. Matt Sophos, the head writer of the Norse game, replied, similarly to Cory Barlog, that all creation myths and their interpretations exist at the same time, in their own history separate from the linear chronology of real history. When asked about it again a full year later, he reinforced his previous answer, stating that the contradictions between each creation story are sorted out mainly via "a combination of geography and the local belief system", So, any mythologies present on the god of war universe are all canon as they happened in their versions of the myths. Bruno again has a statement about this, "All mythologies exist - all at once in the world of God of War. All creation stories are valid because all gods and myths are separated geographically. Kratos destroyed the Greek World at the end of God of War 3, and not the "entire" world. This is how it works." And, more importantly, he was subsequently asked whether the "Greek World" he was talking about referred to just Greece, or to the universe as viewed through the lens of Greek Mythology itself, his response was: "Everything related to the Greek World falls under the Greek Pantheon and its creation stories." In more clear words, the Greek World is the entirety of reality, as viewed from the lens of the Greeks/Greece. In the past God of War games and novelizations, Kratos or the Gods visited many lands outside Greece, such as Persia, Egypt, Lybia, the Mediterranean Sea, Italy, and etc, and they were still the dominant force within these locations, which further confirms that, within its boundaries, each pantheon is its own Earth. So the cosmology of God of War in insanely huge. Kratos is one of the strongest beings in there, consistently able to kill their gods-even with great effort-and so should still be a very close match for quite a bit of Elder Scrolls, though probably nowhere near the dreamer guy. There's also a difference between realms and geography, as Freya mentions that Kratos isn't a god of this realm. Also a tweet by Santa Monica states that Egypt is geography, not a realm, showing a distinction. So, yeah. Sorry for the overly long essay but I hope I showed the scale of God of War's cosmology and how Kratos ranks in it so far.
@@SebasTian58323 The Planets and The Moons , are in simpler Words , Avatars of The Gods , The Avatars which are in a state of Camatose , they are infinite in size and mass but Mortal restrictions only allow them to be precieved as Planets when in actuality they are planes , The Moon part also gives us an explicit mention of Larger Infinities . "What are planets?" "The planets are the gods and the planes of the gods, which is the same thing. That they appear as spherical heavenly bodies is a visual phenomena caused by mortal mental stress. Since each plane(t) is an infinite mass of infinite size, "What are moons?" "Small planets, insofar as one infinite mass of infinite size can be smaller than another." -Cosmology They are impossible to Understand , Thus making them complicated to the Point that math becomes Irrelevant anyway , we also have confirmation that the Bodies of Aedra remain completely uneffected by time Being broken ""Do you mean, where were the Khajiit when the Dragon Broke? R'leyt tells you where: recording it. 'One thousand eight years,' you've heard it. You think the Cyro-Nordics came up with that all on their own. You humans are better thieves than even Rajhin! While you were fighting wars with phantoms and giving birth to your own fathers, it was the Mane that watched the ja-Kha'jay, because the moons were the only constant, and you didn't have the sugar to see it. We'll give you credit: you broke Alkosh something fierce, and that's not easy. Just don't think you solved what you accomplished by it, or can ever solve it. You did it again with Big Walker, not once, but twice! Once at Rimmen, which we'll never learn to live with. The second time it was in Daggerfall, or was it Sentinel, or was it Wayrest, or was it in all three places at once? Get me, Cyrodiil? When will you wake up and realize what really happened to the Dwarves?" -Lore:Where_Were_You_..._Dragon_Broke what happens during Dragonbreaks? time becomes completely nonlinear and thus , Everything is Simultaneous . "Hmm. Breach nearby. I don't know why you're so intent on sealing them. Linear time is so overrated. Just imagine, you could die before you were even born! Wait ... that's horrifying, isn't it? I'm sorry. Never mind." -- Augur of Obscure Now move to the Mundus, the mortal multiverse and confirmed. "Unbeknownst to all but a few, Nirn has come unmoored from the fabric of the multiverse" -Online:Introduction_to_the_Lore_of_The_Elder_Scrolls_Online "Luna Beriel: The Saraathu Tong is a group of Dark Elf mages that were cast out of Morrowind for offending the Tribunal. According to Vaveli Indavel, the Tong swears allegiance to House Hlaalu. They use their expertise with portal magic to supply House Hlaalu with trade goods from across the multiverse." -Online:Luna_Beriel "Vestige: How does that help Nocturnal?" "Sotha sil: "Imagine a Daedric Prince who can exert influence throughout the multiverse at the exact same moment in time" -Online:Sotha_Sil Shadows and Adjacent Places Azra Nightweilder was a Brilliant Mage who found that All Possibilities are showed by Shadows and By Manipulating The Very same Shadows he showed that all possibilties are actually passively manifesting "... chosen to explore this relation of world to shadow, Azra was the first to realize that shadows were not a mere absence of light but a reflection of possible worlds created by forces in conflict. A light strikes a rock, and the shadow is a record of their clash, past, present and future." "Other conflicting forces produced less obvious shadows, fire and water, wind and rock, or nations at war." "With skill and patience, the shadows of all could be read, and patterns teased out, emphasized or eradicated." -First Scroll of Shadow "Manipulating a shadow could, through contagion, manipulate the object or force which cast it." Second Scroll of Shadow ... Azra attempted what had never been done before, manipulating his own shadow to such an extent that he instantiated and melded all possible Azras at the same time, crossing over from this singular existence to all the existences in shadow."" -Scroll_of_Shadow These Shadows Aka Possibilities Manifest as Adjacent places "appeared and drank from the excess. Grabbers from the Adjacent Place came into the world sideways, the slave talking having disrupted" -- 36 lessons of Vivec this is confirmed when the Augur of Obscure Directly states that he would be something different in a different Adjacent Place "Why are you stuck in a crystal skull? "I'm not in the skull. I am the skull-at least here on Nirn. Over in the Adjacent Place, I'm shaped like a throw-pillow. Imagine that! You look confused. It's just a trick of the light, mate. The skull's what you might call a manifestation." -Augur of Obscure so this concludes the Mundus part what we established for Mundus was The Oceans are really complex , containing all of maths , Transliminal Waves and complex Quasi-Tones The Earthbones are what makes the Laws of Physics Infinities can be greater and smaller There are infinite Timelines There is an Unlimited Number of Shadows and thus possibilities Infinite possibilities manifest as infinite Adjacent places And this is just Mundus, the mortal multiverse alone, let not now mention Oblivion or Aetherius or infinite layers and infinite wheels within wheels beyond!
I like that no matter who he's talking to, Paarthurnax always finds a way to talk about Berserk.
And who can blame him.
Man its feels weird hearing hearing some of my favorite characters talk and relate to each other. We need a series.
Yeah agreed this is awesome
It feels weird, indeed. But wonderful and awe-inspiring!
We need a series indeed!
Meanwhile somewhere else Alduin is hanging with Miraak, dagoth, and Chief (@TheOneAndOnlySarge)
Yes, I do, too. I wanna make ai generations. How to do it???
Bro imagine parthanax teaching Kratos the voice.
FUS ROH BOI!
@@noneofyourfckingbusiness8302you did not😂
He can't. Only humans who can use the voice are Nords. Because Kynareth personally crafted them as weapons of Armageddon to fight with Shor to ensure the world endures into the next Kalpa.
That's not entirely true, the thu'um can be learned by any race it's just that nords have an easier time learning it. @@hatemongerofthetoxicbrood6561
@deadsoul7409 Absolutly UNTRUE. The lore is specific, Kyne specifically only gifted this ability to the Nords.
Nords are different from the other races of man. They are not descendants of the Aedra, Nords were created by Kyne (by the order of Shor). Nords are the specific WEAPONS made by Shor to fight the Armageddon at the End and the Beginning of Time to ensure the next Kalpa comes to into being.
With the valhalla dlc, this whole conversation takes place with tyr, now Kratos has found peace, purpose and most importantly redemption and forgiveness for himself
Parthurnaax is the Therapist of the Multiverse.
14:12-15:12 Holy shit, man. This actually brought tears to my eyes. The music helped, I suppose.
Brilliant. Simply brilliant.
I hope to one day see Kratos meeting Guts.
You can say is like an old friend talking to another
Yet another entertaining and enlightening video starring our favourite grandpa dragon. Missed seeing these from you man, but great to have yet another edition to the collection.
God bless you homie! 🫂
Man this video and the conversation were out of this world, talking about the experiences they have in life, what if Joshua Graham , Paarthurnax and Kratos were talking about their lives, destiny, beliefs and most of all the wisdom/knowledge they gained through the journey they have and unexpectedly Guts will join them and telling how he endured and fought the odds against him by life, destiny, beliefs, humanity and demons that would be epic to watch these characters having conversations to themselves where they all agreed, understand and related to.
The image of Guts and Kratos discussing their past, hardships, and adventures together would certainly be epic af. I even think that Guys would be one of the few mortals that Kratos could not only relate and respect. But also look up too as well. Vice versa to Guts as well.
If you go to couriers gambits UA-cam he did a good philosophical video of both Joshua and Kratos speaking to eachother about their past. ITS SO GOOD, you gotta watch it
I have no idea how I stumbled in here, but god damn. I'm happy I did.
Kratos going to the Throat of the World after he beat Valhalla
Saying that this is great is not saying enough. Paarthurnax here feels so expanded yet lore accurate that I believe you should be in charge of writing his character. Same with Kratos.
I am loving these so much right now. Would absolutely love to see more. I won't repeat my comment from an earlier video in the playlist though. Nah I'll let that one speak for itself. It'll be found in the comments of the Joshua video.
It makes me wonder what Grigori (from dragons dogma) would think of Pharturnax or Alduin
He'd respect Paarthurnax for sticking by his standards and talk smack to Alduin for being a sore loser when he gets his ass beat by the Dragonborn
@@LeviathanSpeaks1469i mean not many can say that they beat the last dragonborn.
@@deadsoul7409 And Grigori always gets bested by the Arisen... Yet he never wails "I CANNOT DIE, I AM IMMORTAL" in Dovahzul after being defeated...
17:02 this made me feel like having a tear in my eye 🥹🫂
So beautiful
Really cool. I imagine this conversation with the younger Kratos going much differently
Also God of War Ragnarok is getting a Valhalla DLC tomorrow
THIS IS GOOOOD!!!!! 🔥🔥 this had me excited the whole time how they both RELATE!!
God this hit deep I wish I could more likes then the one I'm given
I had a question... Which MK character would like to meet with Paarthurnax?
Maybe Skorpion?
@@connorluff180 Hanzo Hasashi? 😀
Raiden
@@dragonofdragons1720 *Raiden must consort with Paarthurnax*
Wonder how a Spawn/Paarthurnax meeting would go...
This was absolutely beautiful.
You should have kreia meet parthanaux because i think it will be cool cause it will be the first one where there would be some hostility
How about Paarthanax meets some Jedi? Obi-Wan, Anakin, etc? That may be interesting?
Yoda!
Lok Thu`um, you convinced me zeymah, i join the way of the voice. Also...i have flown over greece and met a familiar face to you spartan. the ship captain forgives you, he wanted me to deliver.
Epic!make a meeting between two characters, the "ghost of Sparta" and "the old one", to atone for their sins. Thank you for the opportunity to hold this meeting
Need to do Kratos, Joshua Graham, Guts and Frank Castle and Caine from World in Darkness
I'd be interested if he would talk to iroh. A lot of wisdom could come from it.
Do one about Paarthurnax meeting Omni-Man during the five year time-skip, when Invincible was sent back in time, from later on in the comics. 😉
Yooo I like this conversation 👌 😊!!!
I would love to hear a conversation between Paarthurnax and Yoda. Would be fantastic.
Rorschach could be an interesting addition to this series as well as Magento and perhaps V.
outstanding
Is it just me or does Kratos sound like frank horrigan?
Thenouman is amazing ❤
Thank you
You should try iroh
Idk if you’ve played nioh 2 but I think otakemaru would love to reflect on his own actions
perhaps man will one day make machines that will be indistinguishable from them and the machines will speak in the tones of are great fictional characters like these two but weather we will co-exist with one another or be destroyed by the other...it remains to be seen or mankind out of fear for the possibility may never let it come to pass.
Can you do Batman and Dexter Morgan
Great... Now to former maniac will work together.
Do you guys write the script ? Its soo good
Can we have Paarthurnax and Darth Vader
The AI gets Paarthurnax's voice perfectly, sounds exactly like the original but the lack of dragon language mid-conversation just makes it so not like him. Yet the philosophy is 100% loyal
Great one.
But there's things that Paarthurnax says is nonsensical thought.
Kratos didn’t kill any omnipotent being, the fact they have been defeated alone disprove such thing and we know the Gods of GoW are absolutely not close to that.
Kratos is not THAT POWERFUL neither he is the strongest thing Paarthurnax have meet, literally Alduin is the World-Eater destroy and re-create the entire mortal multiverse/Mundas time to time, an events known as the Kalpic cycle and the Last Dragonborn beat Alduin in Sovngarde.
Most importantly thing, Gods of GoW doesn't even compare to demi Gods of TES like the Demiprinces, hack the dosen't even compared to the Celestials in TES.
AND COMPARED TALOS TO KRATOS ARE CRAZY.
so true, king. go off.
Lore behind Kratos makes him way stronger than you might think so it's hard to actually say. I'm not gonna pretend to know exactly where he lies, but it's much stronger than you might think. I can't say for sure one way or another if he's stronger or weaker than any of the deities or demi deities in Elder Scrolls, but you can be sure he'd put up a hell of a fight
@@SebasTian58323 I know Kratos Lore Is OP and all but I can tell you for sure that he definitely doesn't compare to the Elder Scrolls Gods.
The Elder scrolls Gods are stupidity Strong, and i am not even kidding.
I gave you two simplest examples of them.
Ancano after tapping to the full power of Eye of Magnus which hold immeasurable power inside it and was going destroy the entire world.
"Opening the Eye of Magnus and tapping into full and incredible power"
-Skyrim Prima guide 266 page.
"But one sure for thing, it hold immeasurable power inside it.
-Skyrim prime guide 166 page
"You've come for me, have you?, You think I don't know what you're up to? You think I can't destroy you?* The power to unmake the world at my fingertips, and you think you can do anything about it?"
-Ancano
"What do we do now?"
"The Eye has grown unstable. It cannot remain here, or else it may destroy this College and this world. It must be secured. Ancano's actions prove that the world is not ready for such a thing. We shall safeguard it"
-Quaranir
The World which In context is the mortal multiverse/Mundus.
"Do you know of Arteum?” the old man asked."
"The island you Psijics come from,” Glim" answered him.
"It was removed from the world once. Did you know that?"
"I did not.”
"Such things happen.”
"He nodded, more to himself, it seemed, than to Mere-Glim.“Has something been removed from the world?” he asked"
"No,” Urvwen said, lowering his voice. “Something has been removed from another world. And it has come here.”
"What will it do?”
"I don't know. But I think it will be very bad.”
"Why?”
"It‟s too complicated to explain,” he sighed. “And even if you understood my explanation,it wouldn't help. Mundus-the world-is a very delicate thing, you know. Only certain rules keep it from returning to the Is/Is Not"
-the Infernal City
the Celestials, are cosmic entites that embodies the constellations, the Celestials, beings that aren't even Gods and was created by power flow from few stars can literally destroy the whole multiverse of Mundus just by presence of there true power, which why they use there avatars in Nirn.
"The Vestige: Apex Stone?"
"Valla: The Apex Stones are what allow the Celstials to manifest in this plane. By corrupting our Apex Stone, the Serpent sought to submit our consciousness to his will and corrupt us. This is what happened to the Lost One".
"The Vestige: Can't we just destroy the Apex Stone?"
"Valla: If you did, our full power would be released. "Mundus could not withstand such force".
-Valla, the Celestial Mage.
"That is why they use their avatars, the Celestials.
"For some, however, wisdom is not enough. Avatars of the constellations-Celestials-wield power that even the greatest sorcerers can scarcely comprehend. Now, their gifts are just within reach"
-Celestial_Crate ESO.
And the Celestials aren't even God's in TES.
@@MohamedMustafaAlk I mean, a weakened Kratos-drained of his godhood-was able to overpower Atlas who was holding the pillar of creation up. Given that if the pillar fell it could destroy everything, including the infinitely sized underworld(It has been confirmed by a number of sources that the Underworld is infinite in size, such as its description in the official God of War website (now deleted) and in an interview with Cecil Kim (Concept Artist, God of War III)) it stands to reason that Atlas has the strength to hold up that much. Kratos only got stronger after this, as this happened in God of War 2, well before he stole the soul of Hades or unleashed the power of hope or anything like that. Later on he was able to keep up with and kill Hermes, who out sped Helio's light-which was able to light up all of the underworld, which again is infinite in size and still only one part of the Greek cosmology. There's also places like the domain of death(entirely different from the underworld in this case), Olympus itself, Greece and the rest of the human world, and the pocket dimension Ares made that had entire star systems in the sky. And of course people like Gaia and Zeus scale above them, and Kratos got way stronger to fight them. Then you go to the Norse side, where he kept up with Thor physically who's physical strength in battle against the world serpent damaged the world tree and sent the serpent back in time. The world tree itself exists beyond time and space, and the concepts of life and death are merely parts of it that it encompasses and transcends. All of Norse creation is a part of it, including several realms between realms and the void before the realms were made. And Thor was able to damage the tree, splintering it enough that the world serpent was sent back in time. He was also able to battle Ragnarok, who destroyed Asgard, and the branch of the world tree it sat upon-shaking the world tree to its core. Kratos was able to defeat Thor and then immediately get into a fight with Odin. Of course, Thor is the strongest Norse God, but Odin is no slouch either.
Kratos has also overcome things like fate manipulation(described in the books better, but the sisters of fate tried to cut his life thread and were unable to).
The cosmology of God of War is strange. But each of the pantheons that exist within the God of War universe do indeed inhabit an allocated area within the planet Earth, but within the borders of said area, they somehow still contain entire realities and universes within. Cory Barlog has this to say about how it might work. “The way I see the mythologies (in God of War) is kinda like that Hubble telescope image. That image shows the universe with all its individual galaxies - and each galaxy is a representation of a mythology. You sort of wrap that around the Earth, and in any given moment, all of those mythological belief systems existed. They all deal with the creation myths around their region - it’s just separated by geography.”
As Cory Barlog states, the God of War mythology could be better summarized as being similar to the Hubble Ultra Deep Field image, except you’d have to wrap it up around the Earth. Each of these dots would show the number of mythologies that existed at the same time. All of their creation myths hold true around their region, with it being separated by “geography”. There are also statements that nothing from the new games are retcons the senior director of art and animation at Sony Santa Monica, Bruno Velazquez, has gone forward to say:
"Why would we (retcon the previous games)? This is the continuation of the saga. Retcons are lazy ways out to continue a story."
"Poseidon was the God of All Seas, but now he is dead."
This confirms the past games were not retconned in overall scale. Poseidon is still considered the god of all oceans, as opposed to just the God of the Aegean Sea, or something similar. Matt Sophos, the head writer of the Norse game, replied, similarly to Cory Barlog, that all creation myths and their interpretations exist at the same time, in their own history separate from the linear chronology of real history. When asked about it again a full year later, he reinforced his previous answer, stating that the contradictions between each creation story are sorted out mainly via "a combination of geography and the local belief system",
So, any mythologies present on the god of war universe are all canon as they happened in their versions of the myths. Bruno again has a statement about this, "All mythologies exist - all at once in the world of God of War. All creation stories are valid because all gods and myths are separated geographically. Kratos destroyed the Greek World at the end of God of War 3, and not the "entire" world. This is how it works."
And, more importantly, he was subsequently asked whether the "Greek World" he was talking about referred to just Greece, or to the universe as viewed through the lens of Greek Mythology itself, his response was:
"Everything related to the Greek World falls under the Greek Pantheon and its creation stories."
In more clear words, the Greek World is the entirety of reality, as viewed from the lens of the Greeks/Greece. In the past God of War games and novelizations, Kratos or the Gods visited many lands outside Greece, such as Persia, Egypt, Lybia, the Mediterranean Sea, Italy, and etc, and they were still the dominant force within these locations, which further confirms that, within its boundaries, each pantheon is its own Earth.
So the cosmology of God of War in insanely huge. Kratos is one of the strongest beings in there, consistently able to kill their gods-even with great effort-and so should still be a very close match for quite a bit of Elder Scrolls, though probably nowhere near the dreamer guy. There's also a difference between realms and geography, as Freya mentions that Kratos isn't a god of this realm. Also a tweet by Santa Monica states that Egypt is geography, not a realm, showing a distinction.
So, yeah. Sorry for the overly long essay but I hope I showed the scale of God of War's cosmology and how Kratos ranks in it so far.
@@SebasTian58323 The Planets and The Moons , are in simpler Words , Avatars of The Gods , The Avatars which are in a state of Camatose , they are infinite in size and mass but Mortal restrictions only allow them to be precieved as Planets when in actuality they are planes , The Moon part also gives us an explicit mention of Larger Infinities .
"What are planets?"
"The planets are the gods and the planes of the gods, which is the same thing. That they appear as spherical heavenly bodies is a visual phenomena caused by mortal mental stress. Since each plane(t) is an infinite mass of infinite size,
"What are moons?"
"Small planets, insofar as one infinite mass of infinite size can be smaller than another."
-Cosmology
They are impossible to Understand , Thus making them complicated to the Point that math becomes Irrelevant
anyway , we also have confirmation that the Bodies of Aedra remain completely uneffected by time Being broken
""Do you mean, where were the Khajiit when the Dragon Broke? R'leyt tells you where: recording it. 'One thousand eight years,' you've heard it. You think the Cyro-Nordics came up with that all on their own. You humans are better thieves than even Rajhin! While you were fighting wars with phantoms and giving birth to your own fathers, it was the Mane that watched the ja-Kha'jay, because the moons were the only constant, and you didn't have the sugar to see it. We'll give you credit: you broke Alkosh something fierce, and that's not easy. Just don't think you solved what you accomplished by it, or can ever solve it. You did it again with Big Walker, not once, but twice! Once at Rimmen, which we'll never learn to live with. The second time it was in Daggerfall, or was it Sentinel, or was it Wayrest, or was it in all three places at once? Get me, Cyrodiil? When will you wake up and realize what really happened to the Dwarves?"
-Lore:Where_Were_You_..._Dragon_Broke
what happens during Dragonbreaks? time becomes completely nonlinear and thus , Everything is Simultaneous .
"Hmm. Breach nearby. I don't know why you're so intent on sealing them. Linear time is so overrated. Just imagine, you could die before you were even born! Wait ... that's horrifying, isn't it? I'm sorry. Never mind."
-- Augur of Obscure
Now move to the Mundus, the mortal multiverse and confirmed.
"Unbeknownst to all but a few, Nirn has come unmoored from the fabric of the multiverse"
-Online:Introduction_to_the_Lore_of_The_Elder_Scrolls_Online
"Luna Beriel: The Saraathu Tong is a group of Dark Elf mages that were cast out of Morrowind for offending the Tribunal. According to Vaveli Indavel, the Tong swears allegiance to House Hlaalu. They use their expertise with portal magic to supply House Hlaalu with trade goods from across the multiverse."
-Online:Luna_Beriel
"Vestige: How does that help Nocturnal?"
"Sotha sil: "Imagine a Daedric Prince who can exert influence throughout the multiverse at the exact same moment in time"
-Online:Sotha_Sil
Shadows and Adjacent Places
Azra Nightweilder was a Brilliant Mage who found that All Possibilities are showed by Shadows and By Manipulating The Very same Shadows he showed that all possibilties are actually passively manifesting
"... chosen to explore this relation of world to shadow, Azra was the first to realize that shadows were not a mere absence of light but a reflection of possible worlds created by forces in conflict. A light strikes a rock, and the shadow is a record of their clash, past, present and future."
"Other conflicting forces produced less obvious shadows, fire and water, wind and rock, or nations at war."
"With skill and patience, the shadows of all could be read, and patterns teased out, emphasized or eradicated."
-First Scroll of Shadow
"Manipulating a shadow could, through contagion, manipulate the object or force which cast it."
Second Scroll of Shadow
... Azra attempted what had never been done before, manipulating his own shadow to such an extent that he instantiated and melded all possible Azras at the same time, crossing over from this singular existence to all the existences in shadow.""
-Scroll_of_Shadow
These Shadows Aka Possibilities Manifest as Adjacent places
"appeared and drank from the excess. Grabbers from the Adjacent Place came into the world sideways, the slave talking having disrupted"
-- 36 lessons of Vivec
this is confirmed when the Augur of Obscure Directly states that he would be something different in a different Adjacent Place
"Why are you stuck in a crystal skull? "I'm not in the skull. I am the skull-at least here on Nirn. Over in the Adjacent Place, I'm shaped like a throw-pillow. Imagine that! You look confused. It's just a trick of the light, mate. The skull's what you might call a manifestation."
-Augur of Obscure
so this concludes the Mundus part
what we established for Mundus was
The Oceans are really complex , containing all of maths , Transliminal Waves and complex Quasi-Tones
The Earthbones are what makes the Laws of Physics
Infinities can be greater and smaller
There are infinite Timelines
There is an Unlimited Number of Shadows and thus possibilities
Infinite possibilities manifest as infinite Adjacent places
And this is just Mundus, the mortal multiverse alone, let not now mention Oblivion or Aetherius or infinite layers and infinite wheels within wheels beyond!
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