If Kenny never had his big crash the last 7 years would look completely different. Webb and Anderson wouldn't have SX titles, Eli never would have hit 50 wins, and Kenny would probably be as well decorated as RV2. He really was that good. We all got robbed of seeing one of the most talented riders in history show what he was capable of.
And what if JS7 did not crash and got hurt on so many occasions? What if RV2 did not get hurt in St. Louis 2009? Would his record be better than what he accomplished? What if all greats did not get hurt?
The same could be said about Eli’s double shoulder injury in ‘15. What if that never happened? Too say that Tomac wouldn’t have hit 50 wins without Roczens injuries isn’t completely outrageous but come on Tomacs had some gnarly injuries himself so what if not for those? Would he have 60? Now Webb and Anderson that I agree with, they would’ve been lucky to win a main event if Kenny and Tomac both had fully healthy and consistent careers.
Kenny is right up there behind tomac, not on the list but in how good he was and what he brought to the sport. His career and stats dont lie. He does make alot of excuses and most hate him cause he doesnt have an SX title, I get that. But hes tied with Webb in sx wins, and raced fewer seasons due to injury. His outdoor career doesnt lie either. He beat herlings when he was on a 250 in MXGP. 2014 rookie year champ, and 2016 was one of the best outdoor seasons ive watched. Almost a perfect season aside from a dnf on a stock Zook is nuts. Plus what hes doing now on the suzuki. Especially after the injuries hes went through. People can say what they want but Kennys brought alot to the sport and one of the best still riding today along with Tomac. Him showing up and even hanging with Jett was awesome to see. Aside from Tomac hes the second best rider still riding today, and im much more of a Tomac fan than Roczen, but his career doesnt lie. People just dislike him as a person and see him as whiney and I get that too. But you cant deny his skill on a bike. Hes beat everyone from James to Dungey and up. Hes been beat by them as well, but im happy to still have Kenny and Tomac around, and still competitive. Is he in the GOAT topic? Well of course not, but you cant deny hes top 10 atleast in the last 10 years, and I truly believe without those injuries he would be way up in that topic. But cant chnage the past, what happened is what it is. The fact hes still riding and winning or getting podiums from time to time at his age with wrist braces is pretty crazy. Plus in 2021 he was 2nd in both Championships and had the most combined points out of both disciplines. Hes came super close a few times since his injury even. He's kinda been the man to beat up until last year, whether people will admit that or not. He's been in every Championship battle or hunt before and after his injury. Pretty impressive.
Kenny is a GOAT. The severe ups and downs and he just kept marching on. And winning...that's the thing. He's still winning after all that. He'll never have the numbers of an RC or MC but that doesn't take anything from a guy like Kenny. And he's a nice guy too. Spoke to him briefly in the pits at High Point in 2012 (???) and even though he was working he took time to speak with a few of us. Very nice and even a laugh or two. Yep a GOAT of the sport.
Before I even watch this, I’m the guy who’s always said Ken would have been the GOAT of goats if he didn’t get injured so much. Yeah yeah I know laugh away
I've always thought the same thing. We got absolutely robbed of seeing one of the most talented riders in history reach his full potential. The fact that he even came back from the injuries he had shows how talented he is.
Kenny and et3 are two guys I think we never got to see fully play out. If Kenny never had his huge crash I think eli and Dungey would probably have had to work a LOT harder to win in sx. Same way I think Eli would have made everyone step up in Moto. 2015 Tomac in moto was absolutely unseen since the bubba or Ricky days. With such a stacked field too.
Of course he doesn’t rank. He doesn’t have the wins to be in the convo. What he would have been though… Now I personally don’t see how anyone couldn’t see he would have been one of if not THE goat
Haven’t watched, based off the title, not even top ten. And I built a Ken roczen replica RCH RM250. So I’m a huge fan. Edit: Jace is king of clickbating titles 😂
@@DC-oj6xg - Well, first off, you are assuming I even remotely care about your opinion...which I don't. And if you believe he does, then YOU aren't a real fan of the sport and understand what career accomplishments actually mean....lol. You are just a fan of Roczen.
Those 2 crashes robbed him and us! He should have never got on that Honda. If he didn’t have those bad injuries, he would have been the guy. Very unfortunate but that’s racing.
There is only one goat that's the point of goat maybe 2 if we say supercross and motocross but then we are talking Rc and McGrath. Kenny is a legend but he isn't Reed above Windham maybe around LaRocco
The fact this question is asked shows how nice Canard really is to just talk nice about people even full well knowing roczen doesn't even belong in the goat conversation
The man is running a business and has to deal with the shitty way youtube algorithms work. He gets great interviews and guys seem to genuinely enjoy talking with him. Maybe you should start your own channel and show him how it's done. Or just don't watch.
@md6397 ah yes you are absolutely right. With the shitty algorithm, it makes it perfectly fine to waste peoples time with titles that does not fit the content of the video! You should become a UA-camr yourself you seem to know everything about it!:)
@@williamMX1768 I should...a channel geared toward people that don't know how to stop watching a video they don't like instead of filling their diaper over the title.
@GYPSYTALES you interview cool riders. Just a shame you think you have to Lie to people to get views. You should think the riders you talk to would attract audience to listen and view your videos alone by the riders names. Good relevant video titles exist, but apparently you are too lazy to think of some
@Gypsytales please make a video explaining how you feel about Hayden vegans podium talk a lot of people see nothing wrong with being proud of being where you're from I do not believe he put anyone down I would just love to hear someone's opinion other than Steve mathes
Roczen is fast but he's king of excuses. Gets beat at high point, "I've mainly been riding sx" . 2 weeks later at wsx "I've mainly been riding mx" .. the dude would be way more likeable if he would just stop with the excuses..
If Kenny never had his big crash the last 7 years would look completely different. Webb and Anderson wouldn't have SX titles, Eli never would have hit 50 wins, and Kenny would probably be as well decorated as RV2. He really was that good. We all got robbed of seeing one of the most talented riders in history show what he was capable of.
And what if et3 did not get hurt in 2015 thunder valley?
facts
Very true!
And what if JS7 did not crash and got hurt on so many occasions? What if RV2 did not get hurt in St. Louis 2009? Would his record be better than what he accomplished? What if all greats did not get hurt?
The same could be said about Eli’s double shoulder injury in ‘15. What if that never happened? Too say that Tomac wouldn’t have hit 50 wins without Roczens injuries isn’t completely outrageous but come on Tomacs had some gnarly injuries himself so what if not for those? Would he have 60? Now Webb and Anderson that I agree with, they would’ve been lucky to win a main event if Kenny and Tomac both had fully healthy and consistent careers.
Kenny is right up there behind tomac, not on the list but in how good he was and what he brought to the sport. His career and stats dont lie. He does make alot of excuses and most hate him cause he doesnt have an SX title, I get that. But hes tied with Webb in sx wins, and raced fewer seasons due to injury. His outdoor career doesnt lie either. He beat herlings when he was on a 250 in MXGP. 2014 rookie year champ, and 2016 was one of the best outdoor seasons ive watched. Almost a perfect season aside from a dnf on a stock Zook is nuts. Plus what hes doing now on the suzuki. Especially after the injuries hes went through. People can say what they want but Kennys brought alot to the sport and one of the best still riding today along with Tomac. Him showing up and even hanging with Jett was awesome to see. Aside from Tomac hes the second best rider still riding today, and im much more of a Tomac fan than Roczen, but his career doesnt lie. People just dislike him as a person and see him as whiney and I get that too. But you cant deny his skill on a bike. Hes beat everyone from James to Dungey and up. Hes been beat by them as well, but im happy to still have Kenny and Tomac around, and still competitive. Is he in the GOAT topic? Well of course not, but you cant deny hes top 10 atleast in the last 10 years, and I truly believe without those injuries he would be way up in that topic. But cant chnage the past, what happened is what it is. The fact hes still riding and winning or getting podiums from time to time at his age with wrist braces is pretty crazy. Plus in 2021 he was 2nd in both Championships and had the most combined points out of both disciplines. Hes came super close a few times since his injury even. He's kinda been the man to beat up until last year, whether people will admit that or not. He's been in every Championship battle or hunt before and after his injury. Pretty impressive.
Kenny is a GOAT. The severe ups and downs and he just kept marching on. And winning...that's the thing. He's still winning after all that. He'll never have the numbers of an RC or MC but that doesn't take anything from a guy like Kenny. And he's a nice guy too. Spoke to him briefly in the pits at High Point in 2012 (???) and even though he was working he took time to speak with a few of us. Very nice and even a laugh or two. Yep a GOAT of the sport.
Before I even watch this, I’m the guy who’s always said Ken would have been the GOAT of goats if he didn’t get injured so much. Yeah yeah I know laugh away
I've always thought the same thing. We got absolutely robbed of seeing one of the most talented riders in history reach his full potential. The fact that he even came back from the injuries he had shows how talented he is.
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Nothing to laugh at. It's a miracle the man even rode dirtbikes again let alone win some nationals and supercrosses and still be a title threat.
Kenny and et3 are two guys I think we never got to see fully play out. If Kenny never had his huge crash I think eli and Dungey would probably have had to work a LOT harder to win in sx. Same way I think Eli would have made everyone step up in Moto. 2015 Tomac in moto was absolutely unseen since the bubba or Ricky days. With such a stacked field too.
He’s top 5 talent wise of all time but injuries and luck held him back title wise.
he is the most talented rider to ever touch a bike
As a huge fan of Roczen and what could’ve been; he doesn’t rank
Of course he doesn’t rank. He doesn’t have the wins to be in the convo. What he would have been though…
Now I personally don’t see how anyone couldn’t see he would have been one of if not THE goat
Goat style for sure!!!
TC is the dude.
The stats don’t bear out how amazing KRoc is, same as you’d never know how great Damon Bradshaw or Lamson were bylooking at the stats
Kenny’s the man
Haven’t watched, based off the title, not even top ten. And I built a Ken roczen replica RCH RM250. So I’m a huge fan.
Edit: Jace is king of clickbating titles 😂
Wish they'd bring back 2bangas to the sport. This time same size cc. Won't sound like constant loud wetfart then.
Seems like the headline question isn’t really addressed in this clip.
Kenny is the actual goat.
Only in your mind....and his.
Kenny not having that crash that ruined his arm would of kept Eli from racing goat talks
Second best rider in the world to Jeffrey Herlings 😂😂
2018 suzuki. close enough..
"Where does Ken Roczen Rank in the GOAT Conversation?"
He doesn't.
Yes he does. He is absolutely up there.. if you know you know. If you don’t, your not a real fan.
@@DC-oj6xg - Well, first off, you are assuming I even remotely care about your opinion...which I don't. And if you believe he does, then YOU aren't a real fan of the sport and understand what career accomplishments actually mean....lol. You are just a fan of Roczen.
Those 2 crashes robbed him and us! He should have never got on that Honda. If he didn’t have those bad injuries, he would have been the guy. Very unfortunate but that’s racing.
There is only one goat that's the point of goat maybe 2 if we say supercross and motocross but then we are talking Rc and McGrath. Kenny is a legend but he isn't Reed above Windham maybe around LaRocco
“If” in SX, MX are a complete waste of time. 100%. What matters is the scoreboard.
The fact this question is asked shows how nice Canard really is to just talk nice about people even full well knowing roczen doesn't even belong in the goat conversation
Clickbait artist strikes once more :)
The man is running a business and has to deal with the shitty way youtube algorithms work. He gets great interviews and guys seem to genuinely enjoy talking with him. Maybe you should start your own channel and show him how it's done. Or just don't watch.
@md6397 ah yes you are absolutely right. With the shitty algorithm, it makes it perfectly fine to waste peoples time with titles that does not fit the content of the video! You should become a UA-camr yourself you seem to know everything about it!:)
@@williamMX1768 I should...a channel geared toward people that don't know how to stop watching a video they don't like instead of filling their diaper over the title.
@md6397 wow. Your really hurt over my title cliclbait artist take... bet you popped your diaper
@@williamMX1768 Ah...Evidently you are around 12. Get off your daddys internet.
Video title.....a little off. But hey...love these
Video title is WAY OFF. Gypsy gets good interviews because of the people he get to do interviews with. He is a poor media guy himself.
Hi William. You don’t have to watch my videos :)
@GYPSYTALES you interview cool riders. Just a shame you think you have to Lie to people to get views. You should think the riders you talk to would attract audience to listen and view your videos alone by the riders names. Good relevant video titles exist, but apparently you are too lazy to think of some
@@GYPSYTALESI reckon William is a bit of a dick. Just saying
Roczen doesn’t rank in the “GOAT” discussion, at all
@Gypsytales please make a video explaining how you feel about Hayden vegans podium talk a lot of people see nothing wrong with being proud of being where you're from I do not believe he put anyone down I would just love to hear someone's opinion other than Steve mathes
Roczen is fast but he's king of excuses. Gets beat at high point, "I've mainly been riding sx" . 2 weeks later at wsx "I've mainly been riding mx" .. the dude would be way more likeable if he would just stop with the excuses..
He doesn’t even make the conversation
He's not even close to being in the conversation
Kenny always has an excuse.
He doesn’t lol