The thing about Terminal Montage and his videos is that his series "Something about _" is loosely depicted. So things like him not showing Maria's death or him running along side Sonic on Radical Highway (which was a boss fight in 3DS Generations) are just more for fun quick up to speed thing, not a retcon.
Yeah for sure. Although with the SEGA sponsor I wonder if that means stuff like shadow 05 taking place before battle is confirmed. Also murder of Sonic maybe? I know it’s just a silly video but def makes you think given how tight the brand is with approvals 🤔
@@SonicHubYT I feel like murder of sonic in Universe was just the gang doing a murder mystery on a couple day break when nothing is trying to destroy the world
I think they sponsored Something about Sonic 2 as well. I think Sega is just the first major company to recognize TM’s popularity and *officially* give him their blessing to make videos with their games, rather than make everything about his Sonic videos completely canon/lore accurate. His whole channel is great though. I feel like the only *real* input Sega probably had was censoring some of the “violence” like Maria being killed and Shadow using a realistic gun in his solo game. But TM is a largely kid-friendly channel so he may have decided to that himself as well. 🤷♂️
I love how this summarizes Shadow throughout the years, and I wasn't expecting this to be sponsored by Sega. I noticed that the guns and Maria getting shot weren't included, and I could see why.
It makes sense that Sonic Battle takes place after Shadow The Hedgehog because Shadow has his memories in that game and it couldn't take place after heroes because he didn't know who he truly was
@@PGYT_OFFICIAL It basically has to be because it's the only thing that really explains Gemerl in Advance 3 and the Advance series is confirmed canon I believe.
@@lukasruston8618It has bothered me that some people thought Battle wasn't canon just or just thought wasn't worth looking into because apparently spinoff fighting game. But yeah Advance series is clearly canon since otherwise Cream nor Vanilla wouldn't have had any proper introduction would have been jarring otherwise seeing them in Heroes and Rush (briefly for the mom) respectively without one. And then you got Emerl to Gemerl clearly by namesake and appearance based off of plus final boss music for Gemerl has a ominous remix of the Emerl's theme also ironic that Eggman who played a role Emerl's death is now the one who has to team up with Sonic to put a stop to the lookalike robot and as a result in a way making up for his past transgression results in that robot being saved. Then you have Gemerl who if it is actually Emerl gets his happy ending since he lives with Cream who he arguably had the most impactful relationship with in learning from the other being Shadow given their origins.
@@SonicLegends The only thing that we need now is for Gemerl to appear in a modern game which... please, Sonic Team? Gemerl is like the second coolest robot Eggman has made right under Metal Sonic and it was confirmed that Tails reprogrammed him after Advance 3 so it definitely makes sense for him to appear again.
Not suprised that Terminal would get into the Year of Shadow hype but fricking official Sonic Team actually shouting out Terminal for the vid n basically being an ad for Shadow Gens was not on my bingo card for this year. Either way, this was a funny n genius move on the team’s part lol. Btw think of Terminal vids as Sonic Boom to where it’s just a parody rather than canon. That’s most of Terminal’s vids where he makes comedy vids for games like Mario, Mega Man, Banjo, etc
I’m happy TM is slowly getting some big sponsors now. Followed his channel for years and love seeing it continue to grow. The first episode of his new original series was *excellent*.
@@JohnDoe-dw3hj well Sega sponsors Terminal now, the whole video is a very well done ad for the new game so I’m sure there’s some oversight involved on continuity
@@SonicHubYT I like having fun. I like having a coherent timeline but taking a Terminal montage video for legitimate evidence of timeline stuff is just goofy to me.
Sonic Battle does take place after Shadow the Hedgehog. Remember he had amnesia in Heroes and 06, but Battle, he remembered and embraced his past perfectly.
I'm so happy that this guy is being recognized, his version of Sonic is quite interesting, and that fight with Mario in the subspace emissary is still so freaking epic, and I really enjoyed his version of Sonic 2, my jaw literally dropped at the way he interpreted the marble garden boss fight because it's just so sick
Miiiight be taking it a little too seriously. lol I think what it is was they liked this person's videos and wanted them to do one about Shadow and the only reviewing they needed to do was make sure it wasn't offensive or grossly misrepresenting. Otherwise I think they are just making up stuff to be funny and I see no reason why SEGA supporting fans creating stuff means that every detail of it has to be official or canon. lol It's interesting tho. I did speculate Battle could take place after Shadow The Hedgehog, but it's never been stated. If so, it would clearly have to be a retcon to fix mistakes, and it would work out too. But they've never said it. So I always assumed the fan base would disagree with me. So not only does it make me happy that this animator placed it that way too but also finding out that other fans also think this way??? I also speculated that CD could make a lot of sense being before Sonic 1, but I don't think people really agree with me on that since being between 1 and 2 is popular and Origins SUPPOSEDLY confirms it's place there by listing it in that order (but not in story in any way apparently). So the way I see it, Sonic CD is a pace-breaking detour in the storyline if it's not before Sonic 1. Oh well.
To clear things up a bit, things like guns and Maria's death was censored due to comedy and Sonic team being more hesitant to put "Shadow" and "Guns" in the same room ever since... "The '05 Incident". Most of the stuff here is canon though like Sonic Battle is very important to Shadow's actual lore and is official, but some things like the Storybook games side modes, tennis, and the cart racer are all non canon and just here to fill time and be funny.
@@ItzLevi31that post was made long before murder of Sonic the Hedgehog came out There are also ads where Sonic likes eating McDonald's Do ya also think those are canon too?
@@zubiayasar1945 Well I don't think they ever said anything like "Oh that one post- we changed our mind" or anything. And that's just advertising, it's not anything in the Sonic series
6:00 It kind of makes sense. Since in Sonic generations also (original version) Time Eater sucked all of Sonic's friends into that black hole or whatever it is. So I think it would be true that Shadow also kind of got sucked in the same way and that's how the Shadow's side of story starts.
Theory: what if Sonic 3 taking place partly in Tokyo is so Sonic can learn the word "Sayonara" when he saves some citizen and says he has to go and they say "Sayonara" as he leaves, and that causes him to say Sayonara at the end of the movie when Shadow falls?
Ya, I originally thought Shadow was on the Arc but the hype made me a bit slow. And I love dude's vids so I think Time Eater getting Shadow and drag him to the ARC makes sense since its where he originally started from(well not first stage but u get what I'm saying), then from the SGF trailer when we saw Rail Canyon and Kingdom Valley for the first time, we saw Shadow was blinded by light so that could've indicate after Time Eater disappeared and THEN start us off from the demo since we had introduction on controls. 🤔
5:48 i don't think that this is exactly how the game will start because terminal montage isn't affiliated with sega nor sonic team so the team most likely doesn't know how the game will start,they just made an animation,but it could be how it starts because in the og generations this is about how the game starts the only thing is that shadow was actually in sonic's birthday party
Maria not dying and just being alone at the ARK makes me feel concerned... What if Sega changes this in the Sonic 3 movie? What if they're slowly trying to avoid the "Maria dies" subject? I may be talking crazy, but I dunno...
This isn't cannon bro it's just for a laugh💀 But yes sonic battle did take place after shadow 05 since he mentions Maria in that game and he doesn't know about her until shadow 05
I mean, that literally means it's official. Not as in "accurate canon" or whatever but getting sponsored to make a video and posting it on their official social media accounts literally IS official. Just cause it's a big meme doesn't mean it also can't be official since it's literally paid for by SEGA.
@@reggielacey2235 No? I said "posted by the official account and paid for by SEGA" they don't pay for fanart and rarely if ever post it on official accounts. This is official cause they literally paid for it and Terminal had to get it approved by SEGA. It's literally paid marketing for the upcoming game.
@@XLR8wuzhere Sega is sponsoring it but TerminalMontage videos are typically an entirely separate canon all their own, regardless of which characters are in it. For example, Mario popped up briefly in “Something About Banjo-Kazooie”.
@@corbangonzalez4935 I just asked a simple question for the movie specifically, not for this video 🤣. I know this video is for comedy purposes, but then my brain decided to ask that question about the movie.
CAN SONIC HUB STOP TRYING TO MAKE EVERYTHING CANON JUST BECAUSE OF A DUMB TWEET THAT SAID: "Everything is canon", jokes aside, nothing has to be taken seriously
Dude relax and have fun your taking the shit too serious it's just a funny video that the sonic team saw his vids and wanted him to do one for shadow as a paid promo for sonic X shadow That's all it is a funny recap video of shadow get that "is it canon or not" stuff out of your brain and enjoy the comedy.
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The thing about Terminal Montage and his videos is that his series "Something about _" is loosely depicted. So things like him not showing Maria's death or him running along side Sonic on Radical Highway (which was a boss fight in 3DS Generations) are just more for fun quick up to speed thing, not a retcon.
Yeah for sure. Although with the SEGA sponsor I wonder if that means stuff like shadow 05 taking place before battle is confirmed. Also murder of Sonic maybe? I know it’s just a silly video but def makes you think given how tight the brand is with approvals 🤔
@@SonicHubYT I feel like murder of sonic in Universe was just the gang doing a murder mystery on a couple day break when nothing is trying to destroy the world
I think they sponsored Something about Sonic 2 as well. I think Sega is just the first major company to recognize TM’s popularity and *officially* give him their blessing to make videos with their games, rather than make everything about his Sonic videos completely canon/lore accurate. His whole channel is great though. I feel like the only *real* input Sega probably had was censoring some of the “violence” like Maria being killed and Shadow using a realistic gun in his solo game. But TM is a largely kid-friendly channel so he may have decided to that himself as well. 🤷♂️
@@SonicHubYTnah he probably just didn’t put it in the timeline right
Murder happened after frontiers @@SonicHubYT
I love how this summarizes Shadow throughout the years, and I wasn't expecting this to be sponsored by Sega.
I noticed that the guns and Maria getting shot weren't included, and I could see why.
Thats just how terminal does things
It makes sense that Sonic Battle takes place after Shadow The Hedgehog because Shadow has his memories in that game and it couldn't take place after heroes because he didn't know who he truly was
Yeah I think so too
It's canon I think
@@PGYT_OFFICIAL It basically has to be because it's the only thing that really explains Gemerl in Advance 3 and the Advance series is confirmed canon I believe.
@@lukasruston8618It has bothered me that some people thought Battle wasn't canon just or just thought wasn't worth looking into because apparently spinoff fighting game. But yeah Advance series is clearly canon since otherwise Cream nor Vanilla wouldn't have had any proper introduction would have been jarring otherwise seeing them in Heroes and Rush (briefly for the mom) respectively without one. And then you got Emerl to Gemerl clearly by namesake and appearance based off of plus final boss music for Gemerl has a ominous remix of the Emerl's theme also ironic that Eggman who played a role Emerl's death is now the one who has to team up with Sonic to put a stop to the lookalike robot and as a result in a way making up for his past transgression results in that robot being saved. Then you have Gemerl who if it is actually Emerl gets his happy ending since he lives with Cream who he arguably had the most impactful relationship with in learning from the other being Shadow given their origins.
@@SonicLegends The only thing that we need now is for Gemerl to appear in a modern game which... please, Sonic Team? Gemerl is like the second coolest robot Eggman has made right under Metal Sonic and it was confirmed that Tails reprogrammed him after Advance 3 so it definitely makes sense for him to appear again.
if you haven’t seen Something About Sonic 1 & 2, i highly recommend it. all these videos are more for humor than straight up lore
I’ve seen the Sonic 2 one it’s jokes for sure
Not suprised that Terminal would get into the Year of Shadow hype but fricking official Sonic Team actually shouting out Terminal for the vid n basically being an ad for Shadow Gens was not on my bingo card for this year. Either way, this was a funny n genius move on the team’s part lol.
Btw think of Terminal vids as Sonic Boom to where it’s just a parody rather than canon. That’s most of Terminal’s vids where he makes comedy vids for games like Mario, Mega Man, Banjo, etc
I’m happy TM is slowly getting some big sponsors now. Followed his channel for years and love seeing it continue to grow. The first episode of his new original series was *excellent*.
Sonic: Wow this guy is fast
Shadow: no this is shadow
S hub: no this is Patrick
Me: no this is halfpint
I wouldn't take this seriously to get lore. Its just a joke video for fun
@@JohnDoe-dw3hj well Sega sponsors Terminal now, the whole video is a very well done ad for the new game so I’m sure there’s some oversight involved on continuity
@@2URLex I still wouldn't
Dude, none of this is meant to reflect the game canon. It’s just a comedy video. Just because Sega was involved doesn’t mean it’s canon.
@@corbangonzalez4935 Nah really
Why do fans take every little thing as “BRO IS THIS CANNON?!” Can yall just have fun?
You're the one not having fun rn it seems like lmaooo
@@SonicHubYTno I’m pretty sure we just don’t want people starting a 384682639373th Sonic lore war because of a comedy video.
Theorizing is fun for people
@@SonicHubYT I like having fun. I like having a coherent timeline but taking a Terminal montage video for legitimate evidence of timeline stuff is just goofy to me.
@@relaxedhoodie7309 yeah lol
2:17 No because this movie isnt SA2 The Movie! And Because Shadow will propably get a spinoff (hoping its a Movie)
The Shadow 05 in this video was so funny and I love it!
This might have just confirmed to us that Shadow Generations takes place post-Frontiers.
No..its going in order of games. This has nothing to do with canon
Patrick is calling you
NO THIS IS PATRICK 1:56
Sonic Battle does take place after Shadow the Hedgehog. Remember he had amnesia in Heroes and 06, but Battle, he remembered and embraced his past perfectly.
I'm so happy that this guy is being recognized, his version of Sonic is quite interesting, and that fight with Mario in the subspace emissary is still so freaking epic, and I really enjoyed his version of Sonic 2, my jaw literally dropped at the way he interpreted the marble garden boss fight because it's just so sick
Miiiight be taking it a little too seriously. lol
I think what it is was they liked this person's videos and wanted them to do one about Shadow and the only reviewing they needed to do was make sure it wasn't offensive or grossly misrepresenting. Otherwise I think they are just making up stuff to be funny and I see no reason why SEGA supporting fans creating stuff means that every detail of it has to be official or canon. lol
It's interesting tho. I did speculate Battle could take place after Shadow The Hedgehog, but it's never been stated. If so, it would clearly have to be a retcon to fix mistakes, and it would work out too. But they've never said it. So I always assumed the fan base would disagree with me. So not only does it make me happy that this animator placed it that way too but also finding out that other fans also think this way???
I also speculated that CD could make a lot of sense being before Sonic 1, but I don't think people really agree with me on that since being between 1 and 2 is popular and Origins SUPPOSEDLY confirms it's place there by listing it in that order (but not in story in any way apparently). So the way I see it, Sonic CD is a pace-breaking detour in the storyline if it's not before Sonic 1. Oh well.
To clear things up a bit, things like guns and Maria's death was censored due to comedy and Sonic team being more hesitant to put "Shadow" and "Guns" in the same room ever since... "The '05 Incident". Most of the stuff here is canon though like Sonic Battle is very important to Shadow's actual lore and is official, but some things like the Storybook games side modes, tennis, and the cart racer are all non canon and just here to fill time and be funny.
I think it’s because they expect the movie fans to not know anything about Maria, so they leave it in for Shadow Generations and the movie.
5:34 The Murder Of Sonic The Hedgehog Is Canon
Just... What...? Its literally confirmed Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog is freaking canon!
Not sure if they did maybe it’s just for fun but the SEGA sponsor does make you wonder
@@SonicHubYT But isn't- everything canon?
@@ItzLevi31that post was made long before murder of Sonic the Hedgehog came out
There are also ads where Sonic likes eating McDonald's
Do ya also think those are canon too?
@@zubiayasar1945 Well I don't think they ever said anything like "Oh that one post- we changed our mind" or anything.
And that's just advertising, it's not anything in the Sonic series
@@ItzLevi31 TRUE
This is a good animation! I’m hyped for SXSG.
The guards just come in and wreck everything
6:00 It kind of makes sense. Since in Sonic generations also (original version) Time Eater sucked all of Sonic's friends into that black hole or whatever it is. So I think it would be true that Shadow also kind of got sucked in the same way and that's how the Shadow's side of story starts.
Theory: what if Sonic 3 taking place partly in Tokyo is so Sonic can learn the word "Sayonara" when he saves some citizen and says he has to go and they say "Sayonara" as he leaves, and that causes him to say Sayonara at the end of the movie when Shadow falls?
Bro caught one thing then completely misses the Crazy Taxi gag. 😂
Ya, I originally thought Shadow was on the Arc but the hype made me a bit slow. And I love dude's vids so I think Time Eater getting Shadow and drag him to the ARC makes sense since its where he originally started from(well not first stage but u get what I'm saying), then from the SGF trailer when we saw Rail Canyon and Kingdom Valley for the first time, we saw Shadow was blinded by light so that could've indicate after Time Eater disappeared and THEN start us off from the demo since we had introduction on controls. 🤔
shadow finally smiles and BOOM!! Here comes time eater
1:50 NO! THIS IS BANANA!
At this point it shows every cool moment including shadow and just made it a comedy video lol.
Iat was really cool of them to reference Sonic Rivals.
And I just finished watching this one myself lol 😂
Idk if I learned anything new about Shadow but this video was really funny and entertaining to watch 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I find it funny the official sonic twitter actually references terminal montage
That animation looks so silly.
Sonic movie 3 but peak
Wow he’s fast no I’m shadow got me lol😂 1:46
The animation looks good
Omfg I love the kirby hoodie
Yo, dreamcast franchises got more rep in this video than Sega gave them in like 20 years
They know wassup
5:48 i don't think that this is exactly how the game will start because terminal montage isn't affiliated with sega nor sonic team so the team most likely doesn't know how the game will start,they just made an animation,but it could be how it starts because in the og generations this is about how the game starts the only thing is that shadow was actually in sonic's birthday party
Bro this isn’t canon it’s a fan animation that they sponsored That’s it
Until the continue the journey in sonic x shadow gens I had no idea it was offical
THIS IS REAL🔥👍🔥👍🔥👍
Shadow with the spirit bomb lol
Rip the Olympics
Very good video 🔥🔥🔥
We hopę for something about Sonic 3
1:47 this explains why Radical Highway is in Sonic Generations 3DS
Maria not dying and just being alone at the ARK makes me feel concerned... What if Sega changes this in the Sonic 3 movie? What if they're slowly trying to avoid the "Maria dies" subject? I may be talking crazy, but I dunno...
My guy it’s just because they couldn’t put child murder in a sponsored video
Dude.....its a comedy video
@@reggielacey2235 makes sense. I'm being over cautious then, sorry lol
@@Sarge327 I agree.
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This isn't cannon bro it's just for a laugh💀
But yes sonic battle did take place after shadow 05 since he mentions Maria in that game and he doesn't know about her until shadow 05
That was refreshing ☠️🤣🤣
Fire!! 🔥🔥🔥
Bruh the dream cast and yohs
Hi
Awesome Sonic video!
It's not official. Terminal Montage just makes funny animations. They got sponsored by Sega to promote Sonic X Shadow generations so they made this
I mean, that literally means it's official. Not as in "accurate canon" or whatever but getting sponsored to make a video and posting it on their official social media accounts literally IS official. Just cause it's a big meme doesn't mean it also can't be official since it's literally paid for by SEGA.
@@BrandonGiesingthats not what official means
@@BrandonGiesingso by that logic all the fanart sega has is also official huh
@@reggielacey2235 No? I said "posted by the official account and paid for by SEGA" they don't pay for fanart and rarely if ever post it on official accounts.
This is official cause they literally paid for it and Terminal had to get it approved by SEGA. It's literally paid marketing for the upcoming game.
None of this video is canon, it’s just a goofy video summarizing all of the games Shadow was in
This is cool❤
I LOVE SHADOW
At this point why didn’t Eggman say yoshi
Doesn’t Sonic battle comes after sonic heroes though 🤣
You should watch Sonic 1 & 2 by Terminal montage
So…are they retconning Maria’s and Gerald Robotnik’s death in the movie 🤔. Or is it a “what if” in Sonic the Hedgehog 3 movie
@@XLR8wuzhere Sega is sponsoring it but TerminalMontage videos are typically an entirely separate canon all their own, regardless of which characters are in it. For example, Mario popped up briefly in “Something About Banjo-Kazooie”.
What does that have to do with this
Istg, I’ve had to say this like five times in this comment section.
ITS
A
COMEDY
VIDEO!
ITS NOT CANNON 😭
@@corbangonzalez4935 I just asked a simple question for the movie specifically, not for this video 🤣. I know this video is for comedy purposes, but then my brain decided to ask that question about the movie.
@@XLR8wuzhere oh sorry, I thought you meant that since the video showed Maria alive, the movie would too.
YOSH!!😂
Sonic forces or Sonic 4 episode 2
Not everything has to do with canon. This is a comedy video. Being sponsored doesnt mean anything. Why do you take everything so seriously
Bro you're taking this animation too seriously
@@Tayebben73 you’re taking the reaction too seriously
@@SonicHubYT. Wow......great response
@@SonicHubYT >:(
@@SonicHubYT five year old ahh response 💀
@@SonicHubYTyou know, terminal montage doesn't actually like his content being reacted to
I think you're taking this video a bit too seriously.
CAN SONIC HUB STOP TRYING TO MAKE EVERYTHING CANON JUST BECAUSE OF A DUMB TWEET THAT SAID: "Everything is canon", jokes aside, nothing has to be taken seriously
Don’t disrespect Sega all stars tennis as Mario Party!!!!
😭 why is bro acting like everything here is canon its just a fan animation promoted by sonic team
Bro digging too deep into this video, it’s a jokey joke video
Nice❤
This is peak
It is silly video brother you take seriously about this silly animation my guy lol
You know this is not official right?
Awesome videos
Hold the phone bro
Good art, no logic
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Lel
First hiw are you
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I don’t care who gets arrested. We need another Nights into dreams game
Dude relax and have fun your taking the shit too serious it's just a funny video that the sonic team saw his vids and wanted him to do one for shadow as a paid promo for sonic X shadow
That's all it is a funny recap video of shadow get that "is it canon or not" stuff out of your brain and enjoy the comedy.
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-Dude, its just a parody, calm down.
I'm calm bro
hi